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“Magna Carta is such a fellow, he will have no sovereign.”
- - Sir Edward Coke
John Harris read the Magna Carta and saw that it was good. So good in fact that he decided to make honest use of it. Particularly article 61.
Article 61 is the longest and most powerful of the clauses within Magna Carta of 1215. It proved so unpalatable to subsequent monarchs that when Magna Carta was craftily re-draughted in 1297, article 61 was not to be found.
But one man’s unpalatable article is another man’s invite to freedom. Enter John Harris, Public Defender and committed common law practitioner. Making use of Article 61, his recent visit to Buckingham Palace began his process of filing for redress of grievances. Here is his report and affidavit.
John Harris’ Report ( www.tpuc.org )
On the 22nd day of March 2008 I personally went to Buckingham Palace to serve an Affidavit on Her Majesty the Queen. My Oath, (which has been signed and sealed by a solicitor) states quite clearly, that I now give Her Majesty 40 days to dismiss the traitors that reside in the Parliament of this country.
I, John James Harris now declare my right under Common Law of England to Withdraw And Withhold all allegiance & obedience to the Person and Crown of Our Sovereign Lady, Elizabeth the Queen, and those who falsely claim to speak &/or to act in Her Name, and by such action, I will remove myself entirely from the authority of those Evil Persons who now seek to abuse & misuse me in the name of Elizabeth, the Queen and in absolute violation of the Common Law of the People to which I belong.
I hereby place on record of all persons that after said 40 days have expired, being the 1st day of May 2008 and the corrections I seek have not been made, by way of the dismissal of the Traitors in the House of Commons, then I John James Harris, will enter into Lawful rebellion under article 61 of Magna Carta 1215 and therefore will become a Freeman of England within the Freedom of Common Law.
I will then declare myself free from all chastisement, Laws, taxes accorded to the state and any obligations there unto, by way of second and final Lawful Affidavit signed, sealed and served.
Affidavit of John Harris
In Pursuit of Justice and Right, And in Full Exercise Of My Undoubted & Lawful Duty to My Sovereign Lady, Elizabeth the Queen -
I, JOHN JAMES HARRIS, now resident at (address supplied to her Majesty) and being the son of John James Harris (also known as Jack Harris) deceased, formerly resident at (address supplied to her Majesty) who was during his lifetime a loyal and true servant of the Crown and who was during his lifetime employed as a Personal Chauffeur to Sir David and Lady Bowes Lyons and Her Majesty the Queen, from time to time -
IT BEING APPARENT TO ME and to a multitude of others that divers evil persons have falsely and unlawfully induced Our Sovereign Lady to believe that they alone are the true representatives of the people placed in Her Majesty’s Care by Almighty God -
AND IT BEING APPARENT TO ME and to a multitude of others that these same evil persons have unlawfully and falsely induced Our Sovereign Lady to give an unlawful effect to legislation that has violated and continues to violate the Common Law: Which legislation further serves to undermine; deny and destroy the Absolute Supremacy of Her Majesty’s Imperial Crown, all to the prejudice of Her Majesty’s People, and in absolute contravention of the right of the people to live in accordance with their own laws and customs (as evidenced by the terms of the Oath that was undertaken by Our Sovereign Lady before Almighty God at the time of her Coronation) -
AND IT BEING FURTHER APPARENT TO ME and to a multitude of others that the entirely lawful authority of Our Sovereign Lady the Queen to Uphold & Defend Her People is now so reduced &/or destroyed by the many processes of Treason that have been and are now being employed against Her Majesty’s Authority from within the ranks of those evil persons who have been and are now entrusted with authority to manage the affairs of Her Majesty’s Parliament & Government of the United Kingdom –
That my Security and Safety under the Rule of those Laws that are my inalienable birthright are now threatened to my personal detriment and danger and to the detriment and danger of my family; my people and my country in their entirety –
AND IT BEING FINALLY APPARENT TO ME that I can achieve no redress to those many grievances that I now have and which result entirely from the Unlawful Conduct of those Evil Persons who now surround the Person and Throne of my Lawful Sovereign, except by means of the lawful process that I now intend –
I NOW PLACE ON THE RECORD of All Persons who now claim to assert a lawful authority over me in the name of Elizabeth the Queen that unless there is correction to the many processes of misgovernment & abuse that have been and are now being imposed on me; with such process of correction being commenced; undertaken; evidenced and given a first and lasting effect within a period of 40 days from this present date –
SUCH PROCESS OF CORRECTION being fully evidenced by Her Majesty’s dismissal of the Assembly of Traitors that is now falsely describing itself as the Representation of the People within the House of Commons AND WITH SUCH DISMISSAL providing the entirety of the People themselves with full opportunity to speak and to act on their own behalf in the election of representatives that are truly loyal to the purposes of Her Majesty’s Throne & People -
THEN I WILL WITHDRAW And withhold all allegiance & obedience to the Person and Crown of Our Sovereign Lady, Elizabeth the Queen, and those who falsely claim to speak &/or to act in Her Name, and by such action, I will remove myself entirely from the authority of those Evil Persons who now seek to abuse & misuse me in the name of Elizabeth, the Queen and in absolute violation of the Common Law of the People to which I belong –
AND I GIVE NOTICE that I will return to my full allegiance to the Person; Estate & Imperial Crown of Elizabeth the Queen only when Her Majesty the Queen is released from the bondage that now prevents her from the free exercise of her lawful authority and duty to Uphold the Common Law that is my birthright and to ensure for all time to come that the government of my country is conducted in full accordance with the laws and customs of my people.
May God in His Mercy, Defend the Right & May God Save the Queen from those who now hold her in an Unlawful Captivity.
-end-
MAGNA CARTA Article 61.
61. Since, moreover, we have conceded all the above things (from reverence) for God, for the reform of our kingdom and the better quieting of the discord that has sprung up between us and our barons, and since we wish these things to flourish unimpaired and unshaken for ever, we constitute and concede to them the following guarantee:- namely, that the barons shall choose any twenty-five barons of the kingdom they wish, who with all their might are to observe, maintain and secure the observance of the peace and rights which we have conceded and confirmed to them by this present charter of ours; in this manner, that if we or our chief Justiciar or our bailiffs or any of our servants in any way do wrong to anyone, or transgress any of the articles of peace or security, and the wrong doing has been demonstrated to four of the aforesaid twenty-five barons, those four barons shall come to us or our chief Justiciar, (if we are out of the kingdom), and laying before us the grievance, shall ask that we will have it redressed without delay. And if we, or our chief Justiciar (should we be out of the kingdom) do not redress the grievance within forty days of the time when it was brought to the notice of us or our chief Justiciar (should we be out of the kingdom), the aforesaid four barons shall refer the case to the rest of the twenty-five barons and those twenty-five barons with the whole community of the land shall distrain and distress us in every way they can, namely by taking of castles, estates and possessions, and in such other ways as they can, excepting (attack on) our person and those of our queen and of our children until, in their judgment, satisfaction has been secured; and when satisfaction has been secured let them behave towards us as they did before. And let anyone in the country who wishes to do so take an oath to obey the orders of the said twenty-five barons in the execution of all the aforesaid matters and with them to oppress us to the best of his ability, and we publicly and freely give permission for the taking the oath to anyone who wishes to take it, and we will never prohibit anyone from taking it.
And just for good measure, here’s Article 39.
Article 39.
39. No freeman shall be arrested or imprisoned or deprived of his freehold or outlawed or banished or in any way ruined, nor will we take or order action against him, except by the lawful judgment of his equals and according to the law of the land.
We repeat;
“Magna Carta is such a fellow, he will have no sovereign.”
– Sir Edward Coke
We are all Magna Carta Men and Women.
Tremendous action by John Harris. Common Law needs to be taught in schools and probably to every man, woman and child in the UK.
Our government is corrupt. Our politicians are corrupt. They lie, deceive and cheat the ordinary people who elected them in good faith to govern and defend our country of Great Britain. They bloat themselves on ‘expenses’ whilst many elderly people can barely feed themselves. Our politicians need to be removed, tried and convicted for treason. Well done John for demonstrating the courage and morality that our treasonous MPs (Labour, Conservative and Lib Dem) lack.
excellent piece of work, and so desperately needed
saying.
well done John.
At last i have found a site, were can see what is HAPPENING TO MY BELOVED COUNTRY.Out with the federal Eu i allways new it was up to no good,and the traiters that Govern us.well done.The common law should be Produced in Paperback as long with the Magna Carter,when is the civil war?If we dont have one
we will never Get rid of the EU
Yes, excellent,
May I say ditto for the U.S.of A. where the Magna Carta was/is the source of American, via British Common Law, concepts of law and order and from which it’s first breath came.
We are plagued as well with corrupt politicians; Hypocrites, liars and eunuchs, to put it mildly.
Indeed, Well done, John Harris !
May I suggest one source for learning about the practical application of the Magna Carta to todays’ issues? We must resist present attempts to remove us from the Common Law system, both in the UK and the US. Unless we relearn our history of freedom, it will be utterly destroyed. I enclose the link and a short segment from within this work dealing with Trial by Jury, by Lysander Spooner:
http://www.gutenberg.org/dirs/etext98/tbjry10.txt
“The barons of England, sustained by the common people, having
their king in their power, compelled him, as the price of his throne,
to pledge himself that he would punish no freeman for a violation
of any of his laws, unless with the consent of the peers that is, the
equals of the accused.
The question here arises, Whether the barons and people intended
that those peers (the jury) should be mere puppets in the hands of
the king, exercising no opinion of their own as to the intrinsic
merits of the accusations they should try, or the justice of the laws
they should be called on to enforce? Whether those haughty and
victorious barons, when they had their tyrant king at their feet,
gave back to him his throne, with full power to enact any
tyrannical laws he might please, reserving only to a jury (” the
country”) the contemptible and servile privilege of ascertaining,
(under the dictation of the king, or his judges, as to the laws of
evidence), the simple fact whether those laws had been
transgressed? Was this the only restraint, which, when they had all
power in their hands, they placed upon the tyranny of a king,
whose oppressions they had risen in arms to resist? Was it to
obtain such a charter as that, that the whole nation had united, as it
were, like one man, against their king? Was it on such a charter
that they intended to rely, for all future time, for the security of
their liberties? No. They were engaged in no such senseless work
as that. On the contrary, when they required him to renounce
forever the power to punish any freeman, unless by the consent of
his peers, they intended those powers should judge of, and try, the
whole case on its merits, independently of all arbitrary legislation,
or judicial authority, on the part of the king. In this way they took
the liberties of each individual and thus the liberties of the whole
people entirely out of the hands of the king, and out of the power
of his laws, and placed them in the keeping of the people
themselves. And this itwas that made the trial b jury the palladium
of their liberties.
The trial by jury, be it observed, was the only real barrier
interposed by them against absolute despotism. Could this trial,
then, have been such an entire farce as it necessarily must have
been, if the jury had had no power to judge of the justice of the
laws the people were required to obey? Did it not rather imply that
the jury were to judge independently and fearlessly as to
everything involved in the charge, and especially as to its intrinsic
justice, and thereon give their decision, (unbiased by any
legislation of the king,) whether the accused might be punished?
The reason of the thing, no less than the historical celebrity of the
events, as securing the liberties of the people, and the veneration
with which the trial by jury has continued to be regarded,
notwithstanding its essence and vitality have been almost entirely
extracted from it in practice, would settle the question, if other
evidences had left the matter in doubt.”
Much information is available within the text dealing with issues other than, but related to, Trial by Jury.
Brilliant, well done John and best of luck. I’ve had it with the corrupt parasites who now govern us. If you’re really determined to take down this government, you should look into the charity organisation that calls itself “Common Purpose” whose sole purpose is to undermine British freedom and democracy.
I would suspect that either MI5 or MI6 (or both), whom are run by these Parliamentary criminals, will have something else to say about this act. Don’t think for a second that by claiming some right of Magna Carta in this day and age that it will guarantee your freedom (or safety).
Magna Carta was a document forged by the force of arms and inked by the blood of battle. It was a warrior’s document - more in kind with the fictional Klingons and all free entities of the universe. Free men from of old (even primitive times) were always free warriors. Those who were not warriors were likely slaves or women. The warrior lords who forged the Magna Carta were not unlike the Lakota warriors who refused to be slaves to their own chiefs.
But your slave master is not your plump queen - no - it is the beast that devours the earth’s biosphere and excretes in its place wasteland. Yes, its ‘civilization’, a type of primate ‘hive’ still in the process of evolution. While it is composed of human material, it is innately inhuman and inhumane. It has always been for the most part a force multiplier for fat tyrants. Indeed it gives birth to them at a constant rate. It allowed an old man, such as Saddam, or the marshmallow Hitler to subjugate and crush down the myriad of young men of their own nation (per Hitler I speak of the great destruction his tactics brought upon Germany). This is something that could never happen in a primitive society of warriors, nor for that matter in a troop of chimps.
England is no longer a land of warriors. Even the freedom you may imagine to have existed say 100 years prior to today, was merely a scam. The English are all cogs in the great wheels of civilization – only today the pretense of the scam is being dropped. The Potemkin freedom of your people is wearing threadbare. The thespian acts so long played among the English speaking peoples is coming to its final curtain: where there are no free warriors there can be no Magna Carta and no free men.
Did Thomas Jefferson disagree with what I have stated? I think not, for the blood he spoke of that would water liberty was surely the blood of free warriors. A warrior who is unchained and has his right arm free and armed, is indeed free, even if only for a short moment before he is cut down by his oppressor. In such battle he dies free. But those in chains of whatever fabrication and who are not warriors and who only petition and BEG, are not free, but die as slaves to fear – even years before their heart stops.
Hmm, many interesting comments… but who says, “I’ll do the same”?
Talk of civil war is amusing, considering you stiff Brits allowed your government to plan all of this years ago, starting with gun control!
When the rock throwing begins, it’ll be over quick by ending with another Tiananmen Square Massacre.
Another example of how ‘do it yourself’ even in matters of law and rights may be the best. Leaving such things up to ‘representatives’ is problematic since as we know they don’t always work for us. A good example is the UN High Commissioner of Human Rights Louise Arbour:
http://www.upi.com/Official_Government_Wires/Story/20080409-055109-7508/
http://globalresistance.com/articles/herman/louise-htm
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8657
re: outgoing UN rights head Arbour: first url is
http://www.upi.com/Official_Government_Wires/Story/20080409-055109-7508/
in irons, may they be exiled back to tartarus, from whence they came.
they are destroying what we have worked so hard to build.
time is running out
After an elephant has been chained for long enough, they secured the animal with a thin hemp cord to one ankle. Amazing how string becomes steel, when your spirit has been broken.
This man is a great hero.
Excellent. Although another commentor is right - secret gov’t services won’t stand for this, and probably won’t let their actions unfold in the light (such as in JFK’s family, MLK, and federal reserve system opposition in the USA).
This is just the sort of spirit we require to keep the human race from spiraling into a “civilized” hive with an elite “inner circle” at the pyramid’s capstone. These elitists didn’t accomplish anything without the oppression and indebting of other people. We don’t have to honor this debt for a second, although be ready to face the global repo-man and take the scum to the grave when he comes to take your soul back.
All men everywhere need to stand up and make their voices heard. The level of corruption in our governments has reached an impossible high. We can take power from them through collective action to ignore them. Stop spending and they will fall from their positions because money is their god. Stop spending!
Commendations to the brave Englishman who used the LAW in Magna Carta to protect his rights as well as the rights of all Englishman/British subjects.
May the citizens in America, who enshrine Maga Carta in our hearts that no one is above the law, have the courage to defend our Constitution against evil elements in our society to pretend to rule in the name of the people, but who commit treason against a Constitution they took an oath to support and defend.
We are working to re-establish The Common Law over here and Article 61, The Common Law Grand Jury,is utmost on our list! My best hat(beaver top hat)is off to you sir!
ill do it! how? tell me, is it as simple as going to a solicitor. every person aggrieved in this country should do it.
How long before WE hear “it’s just a goddammned piece of paper”?.
please put up a few steps as a guide for us.
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Wat the Tyler live’s on , way to go John Harris
Can they detect flint knives with metal detectors?? Even coffee cups can be a means of self preservation.
They can take our lives,but not our spirit. And the universal cry is Freedom,for all of mankind except for the Nephilm. Their days are numbered.
We need to bring back the guillotine and conduct public executions for politicians!
The article looks good but unless I’ve misread it’s not quite as it appears.
The process being invoked (by the statements leading into it) re-places the monarch (Queen) as the ultimate head and absolute governor of the British person invoking the process i.e it places the Crown above elected government. Were it to re-establish the balance between the individual and the elected government, its representatives and the established means of maintaining order throughout the kingdom to the point of elected, conditional, mutual co-operation and benefit then I would, without question, follow John James Harris’s lead.
There are sites popping up all over with lawful methods of reclaiming your freeman status. It all depends on how attached you are to gov’t benefits and knowing how they acquire jurisdiction over you. Learn to use the truth and it WILL set you free. Hint: never use gov’t ID to identify yourself to an agent. That only serves to prove that you’ve agreed to their rules. Statutes are not laws.
http://www.thinkfreeforums.org
http://thinkfree.ca
Canadian sites but the information applies to all Commonwealth countries.
Search google video for “Bursting Bubbles of Gov’t Deception” and “Magnificent Deception”. Watch bubbles first.
Peace!
I wonder if this stands in Canada as well. Need to do some research to find out more..Keep Your Sights Straight
I am a Canadian. I am also healer.
I intend to do as John Harris and submit a copy, albeit slightly changed, of his affidavit to the Queen’s Representaive here in Canada - The Governor General.
I will find and gain appeal to the required number of Barons and begin from there.
I intend to Represent myself, on behalf of the Citizens of Canada.
What’s next? War Crimes Tribunals?
“If you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a small chance of survival. There may even be a worse case: you may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.”
— Winston Churchill
Locking the stable doors after the horse has bolted. our world is going to Hell in a hand basket. none can change the course of history. nevertheless a valiant effort on the part of John Harris!
Outstanding Mr. Harris! I was beginning to wonder if EVERYONE was asleep in the UK. Obviously I was wrong.Now we need to do similar here in the US as we have equally effective remedies as well.
J. Woodward-Partridge
Fort Worth, Texas
In Canada
http://thinkfree.ca/ has
info on living as a
Freeman on the land,
as opposed to admiralty
jurisdiction. Also
http://naturalperson.com/
has great hidden truths
pursuant to Canadian law.
canadianactionparty.ca/
is the only party
that wants a new 911
investigation and wants
to abrogate the tools of
global communism.
http://www.canadians.org/
There is a source of the problem. There is a place where the powerful directives come from which undermine democracy and prosperity everywhere:
This is an attempt to state it simply, because if you understand the problem, then you’re going to see the solution clearly as well. If it doesn’t make sense the first time you read it, try reading it again. Eventually, the whole picture will sink in…
A quick history of money
1) Once, gold and silver were considered the only ”real” money, but it was heavy and risky to carry around…
2) So people paid goldsmiths to store the money, and got paper receipts for it…
3) After a while, people used the receipts like money, and left the gold in the bank most of the time. So the bankers got clever and came up with a scam…
4) The banks printed off receipts for more gold than they actually had, and ”loaned” those receipts out to charge interest on it. They had to keep the truth about how much gold they really had a secret and hope that not too many people would ask. This let them make a lot of money charging interest, because they could charge interest on MONEY THEY DIDN’T HAVE.
An analogy can be made using property and titles. Here’s the scam in another way:
Step 1: Acquire a vacation home,
Step 2: Sell the title to the home to one person,
Step 3: Sell the title to the home to a DIFFERENT person,
Step 4: Hope they both don’t show up on the same weekend!
Fractional reserve banking lets a bank say to a depositor that all his money is safe and sound at the bank, while at the same time they get to loan most of it out to someone else to charge interest on it. So there are two people with a legitimate claim to the same pile of money. So whose is it, really? And where is it?
It gets stranger: when a borrower gets their money, it will end up deposited into a bank as well. This money then becomes backing for another loan, and that loan gets deposited, becoming backing for yet another. If you do the math, you will see that far more money is on deposit in all the banks than existed in the first place! Where does all this money come from? The answer: It is simply CREATED. Since money is not gold, but only paper, banks can ask the Federal Reserve system to just make more!
The story of the vacation home is a good analogy of how banking works today, except for one important thing: there is no home. Without gold, silver, or some other commodity backing it, we have all been trading titles to property that doesn’t exist! Paper backs paper, and all they represent are promises to pay. This is the reality of money, and is quite different from how most of us expect it to be.
What’s the result?
1) Loaning money while claiming it is still on deposit increases the money supply, essentially creating more money (otherwise deposits would vanish). In essence, for the bank to have your cake and loan it too, it must create more cake. This increase in money supply is the cause of inflation.
2) Almost every dollar that exists is owed to a bank somewhere, because at some time in history, it was created when it was loaned out.
3) The amount of money owed to banks is more than all the money in existence! So we cannot possibly get out of debt under this system. The bulk of this debt is in the form interest, which is an arbitrary amount of money banks demand in return, but never gave.
4) There is no money, in the real sense. Just checks, data stored on computers, and promises. It is all created by typing on a keyboard, and signing signatures. The only tangible assets in regard to money anymore is the collateral we pledge when we ask for a loan. The money they loan you comes from nowhere, but the assets you lose in foreclosure are real!
5) Because the US government borrows from the Federal Reserve, bankers have the power to influence our society and government by controlling finance. They decide to create (or not create) money depending on who’s asking, and for what. They choose what projects get funded, and let other needs wither on the vine by starving them of working capital. This subtle yet immense power is more than enough to undermine democracy, and guide the course of a nation’s history.
So what’s the solution?
Simple. The public must demand that money must not be created by loaning it into existence. It must be something that is openly and publicly controllable, issuable, accountable, and interest-free. Otherwise, a class of parasites will rise to power in society by cleverly disguising the fact that the money they are creating, spending, and controlling us with is MONEY THAT ISN’T EVEN REAL.
This is one more example of a string of precursors to what is inevitable - that this all can only end in pain and blood. If you push madmen to the brink - to losing their hold on the madness and control they own and have owned for centuries - you face the business end of the madman’s gun. It is at that time, when you’re are being mugged at gunpoint again, when you as an individual and as a society have to make the decision to submit and give up your wallet with a thunk on the head, or grab the gun and shove it straight up his bankhole. Either way you face a mortality. One way is quick and could provide freedom and vigilance, the other is guaranteed slow pain and hell. Either way has a high probability of death.
Take the fight to your enemy. The hold they have over you is because of a campaign of fear they lavish upon your soul. But it is your soul, isn’t it?
I believe John Harris’ adventure, though well intentioned, to be quixotic as the Magna Carta was ultra vires at inception. Prior to the signing of the Magna Carta the king of England had gifted the entirety of his realm and his chattels (that includes the human livestock) to the catholic pope - so the pope would lift the kingdom-wide interdiction (in place because the king sought to elect his own arch-bishop ). Now this argument could be a fiction, heh! it is a victor’s history, but it is bloody good fiction then.Why from UK libraries you can find copies of your kings ceding document and from the vatican library images of the pope’s acceptance document -in which he grants your vassal king stewardship of Britain and defines the taxes to be paid IN PERPETUITY. Well, that is unless Britain has overthrown the Vatican state by force of arms and so despoiled all its’ possesions( articles of war)-perhaps I missed that? Some argue the Swiss own that position-hence the swiss ‘guard’ is really an army of occupation. So perhaps John would be better advised to adress his appeal to the swiss crown?
Addendum to previous- Once advised of the Runnymede happenings, the Pope immediately repudiated the Magna Carta by return messenger.(and excommunicated the rebellious barons) Think of the Magna Carta as wallpapering for the charnel house -a calming affect on the sheeple.
This so-called Declaration of Independence is the stuff of nonsense. If you wanted to do something practical, re-declare the Republic of 1649. Abolish the monarchy and the house of lords. Universal and equal suffrage in the election of representatives. That would be a program.
well done john harris & you are absolutely right danny. its about someone stood up the the crimminals & treasonists who call themselves politicians & supposedly act on out behalf, and i include ALL PARTIES.
• There will be a Peace Treaty signed in the ME which would be for 7 yrs (360 x 7= 2520 days see Daniel 9:27 ) in the not too distant future. The one Condi Rice, Bush and Olmert are trying to push.
• Right after that, there would be a Russian invasion of the ME, where the Arab forces would come down with Russia and only 1/6th would go limping back. It would be a supernatural defeat for the Russian coalition forces.
• Even before the Peace Treaty there would be a confrontation with Palestinians and the surrounding countries- see Obadiah where Esau/Edom refers to the present day Palestinians. Israel will come out of it victoriously. Whether we like it or not the Lord has chosen Israel and 1/3rd of Jews as His Chosen people.
• The Bible clearly also states that “woman on seven hills” (Rome ) will rule for 3 1/2 yr and then the Antichrist would take over for the next half of the 7 yrs. This seven years is called the Jacob’s Trouble (Jeremiah 30:7).
• After 3/2 yrs “He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a MARK (Microchip/verichip) on his right hand or on his forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the MARK, which is the name of the beast or the number of his Name. This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man’s number. His number is 666″ Revelation 13:16-18
The Temple would be built in Jerusalem, where in the middle of 7 yrs the Antichrist would set up his image/IDOL and would force everyone to bow down to it.
At the moment all roads lead to Rome. we can do little to thwart the prophecy written in 94 AD, by John the apostle. Read the book of Revelation it is not obsolete, it is the only one that takes the guess work out of the future. Prophecy is HIS-STORY written in advance. They took religion out of school so that common man would not be informed about future, just like in the Dark Ages, where owning the Bible brought death penalty. Who could have looked down the corridors of history and envisioned that there would be a thing called CHIP/mark which would soon become compulsory to function in this society? ID is a precursor of it. It is all a spiritual warfare.
Christ said, “Heaven and Earth will pass away but My Word will NOT PASS AWAY” Matthew 24:35
Keep this time line printed so that when it does take place you would BELIEVE, for future reference.
I have made many world predictions through my website (levi-tarot.co.uk) with undeniable accuracy. I stake my reputation (of over 25 years) continually in order to build a track record of trust and accuracy in order to open peoples eyes and awaken them from apathetic slumber.
The same ability I use to make predictions, I now use to sort the Conspiracy Wheat from the Chaff. What I find is disturbing and dangerous for us all concerning our civil rights and freedom in general.
My blog has featured many scathing attacks on the criminals in suites who have infiltrated world Governments by posing as politicians. I can confirm that there is a plan to have us under almost complete control by 2010. This is not a conspiracy theory, it is fact. take a look around you.
But today my blog was aimed to promote the Magna Carta Man, a real British hero so hopefully his story will get quite a few hundred hits over the coming days and open peoples eyes.
This Government is full of incompetence led by an unelected PM whom I predicted will not last the year out and his party will teeter on the edge of the abyss.
Ironically, the problems which seal his fate are the ones he created in his last post.
We are now far past the point but not to late to remind the powers that be that we elect them to serve us not rule over us.
Peace - Levi
your off your ***** rocker mate
get with it mate you aint never gonna be free from your tax’s etc
find something to do,get a garden or an allotment
or does the lizard queen own them all lol lmao lmao
You inspire us all to get off our duffs, hold our Congressmen, Senators, Governors as well as local polititions accountable for thier actions. I do hope this is a start to FREEDOM!!
We, here in America, have the same problems.
I am proud of someone who stands against those who lead
through tyranny!
Arise, take and hold fast your freedom, or soon it will be gone for good.
Everything of any significance that has ever happened, is happening, or will happen, happens within an economy. Even your hopes and dreams are functions of your economic situation, eg, if a man dreams of having a roof over his head, we must suppose that in reality he doesn’t have a roof over his head, and that the reason for this lack is rooted in his economic ‘reality’. If you wish to understand your own economic reality, the worst thing you could do is listen to economists and other so-called ‘experts’ spouting arcane and esoteric jargon on TV and in newspapers. The ONLY way you will understand the economy and your FREEDOM, or LACK of it, is, as previous posters have pointed out, to understand exactly WHAT money IS and WHERE it comes from. Anybody who tries to discourage you from doing this is basically suggesting you should continue to allow the foxes to guard the henhouse.
So what happened on the 1st May? Can we all do the same thing now?
Any updates anyone?
Cheers
Steve
He has now declared his status as a Freeman. See his second affidavit at http://www.tpuc.org/node/251
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution inevitable.
Let this be the first shot in our peaceful revolution in this country against the ancient evil that oppresses us all.
I for one will never submit to life as a slave as long as I draw breath in the name of those who gave their lives in two world wars for our freedoms.
Give me liberty or give me death!!!
Very interesting and progressive. But what next, does it all stop here with you as a declared freeman? Without streams of citizen marching to rush by your side in full and total support, I am afraid your actions, however admirable, will forever remain, in the eyes of those in power—those of just another crank.
Yet that said we must have full and absolute accountabilty from those who govern–we do have it–wothout will will suffer the SOS each day from now ’till kingdom comes.
The workers and ordinary citizens need to organise and demand their rights without the persistant complications attatched thereto.parlññiement is making chumps out of your all!—-and you keep on taking it as regular as clockwork!
I don’t think people are getting what brave John Harris has actually done here. He has effectively declared himself a sovereign entity and withdrawn support of and participation in the ’system’. It is what we are all going to have to do in order to save ourselves. No one is coming to rescue us. It’s important to realise that we are surrounded by traitors who have effectively taken control of the infrastructure of this country. Without the complete withdrawal of support and participation in the present structure we will be living in a totalitarian dictatorship the likes of which we have never seen or even Orwell could have foreseen. I’m not going to play this down.
If Ireland does not reject the ‘Lisbon Treaty’ this totalitarian state will emerge in January 2009. Look around… most of the ‘laws’ and infrastructure are already in place.
I’d like to think people will follow John’s lead and that his ideas take on a snowball effect but, I doubt it because people are still looking outside themselves for a politician to rescue them. It’s not going to happen. We have been betrayed in this country by swine who have pretended all along to represent the wishes of the people while conspiring to take freedom away from the people for good. They are traitors and by paying taxes and supporting their propaganda through the TV Licence fee we are all complicit in their treachery.
I doubt very much those in power view John as a ‘crank’. I’ll bet they’re praying his ideas don’t catch on and spread.
John Harris is an inspiration and is, in fact, a hero.
mmmmmhhhh why should people jump to rescue us when we cant even help ourselves?
I have no doubt what John Harris has done is a good thing, Equally I have no doubt that there wont be thousands rushing to join him. However a general needs and army for without an army a general is only a private in a more fancy uniform.
I would urge all to fully support John, as at least he realises the dangers that surround us.
Commom Law and the Banks–here is a thought for you all.
Many years ago I watched with a stunned horror as the bank, I believe it was Barclays, but could be wrong and if so stand corrected, pulled too the plug on the Creamery in St. Clairs. West Wales. The creamery being a major employer in a predominantly agricultural zone, was obvious a disaster for many when it closed.
Ironically it was closed auctioned off cheaply. and at some stage later reopened, taking back most of those that lost their jobs. 8(there is conspiracy theory tail attached to this scenario, but lets agree to leave it on the back burner–-for now).
Even before this I never did like banks, greedy grasping and ugly as they are, Nice smart High branches to disguise what in reality are the lower forms of usurious money lenders. Never could figure our why a bank manager was such a prominent member of the local society when a pawn brokers was not. Tool some thinking about did that one. However much I ponder on this and other peculiarities of how society functions I found that banks indeed were afforded a most privileged position for example if you want a personal reference–your bank manager would do very nicely thank you, while not you local Shylock second row money lender. Then it began to dawn on me.
I have long tried to think up a way of removing the power that the banks hold over our society, in many cases rendering society into a perpetual state of financial bondage. It is on record that over four years ago I warned Brown over the dangers of letting banks run wild with greedy in making all kinds of silly loans–loans which drove up house prices based solely on the amount the banks would lend, without a though for true value––the rest sadly, is now a history that we are still living through and suffering from.
You see folks, all major banks have worked hard down through the years in corrupted all political party’s parliaments and of courts the courts in order to achieve their seemingly invincible position. Through the parliaments, banks have set in place legislation which form the blue print and provide the means to realize their goal.
However, such legislation can only be enforced through the courts where, if justice were to prevail, bad laws would be vetoed and rejected in fair trials or tribunals. That is why the banks have to have dominance over the courts. They do this by firstly controlling the judges and secondly eliminating juries, thereby removing any possibility that the judges may “do right” or that the people may exercise their will.
Pondering over issues that bother me for years, as I do, only to get more and more frustrated. Constantly asking my deeper sub conscience mind to fling up the answer, sometimes works when trying to put a name to a an old film stars face etc,( being an old movie buff, and these days preferring the Golden Age of the movies, to that of the world of reality). Then one day three unsolicited loan offers came in the mail. As I idly passed an eye over them, it just hit that there is indeed a way to deplete the power of the banks and to do so by proclaiming a simple truth which the bank seem all too happy to want to ignore as they feel that not only are they above the law but totally invincible as well–-I THINK THIS IS NOT SO.
Its all to do with their practice of issuing loan contracts, for as the majority of loans are variable by nature. An essential element in UK law for a contract to be valid is of course certainty. The basis of this hypotheses is right there in the meaning of the word, “variable”, as found in the Oxford English Dictionary. “Variable” means “uncertain” and “certain” means “not variable”. For contracts to be valid under the UK common law, there must be “certainty of terms” as an essential element. Therefore, all loan contracts in which the banks have incorporated variable interest rates are invalid. Those loans are illegal and the banks are common law criminals.
The judges know this and are concealing this serious offence, but this revelation now exposes the incompetence, corruption and treachery in the judiciary.
Interesting—-but true, and what we face.
http://www.economist.com/world/britain/displaystory.cfm?story_id=11594471
AS OUR LEGAL SYSTEM NOW LOOKING LIKE IT IS GOING ON MELTDOWN ,WITH TODAYS LORDS PASSING THERE LATEST BILL MAKING IT ALL IN FAVOUR OF CRIMNALS? SURLY THE GOOD PEOPLE OF OUR COUNTRY , WILL COME OF THE FENCE AND START SHOUTING WOLF? WHAT IS HAPPENING IN ZIMBABWE COULD BE SOON APON THE PEOPLE OF THE UK IF GORDON BROWN AND HIS CRONIES BULLDOZE THE EU TREATY THROUGH? BUT ALAS WITH GOD AND TRUTH ON OURSIDE ? WE WILL OVERCOME?
I have done a lot of soul searching since rerunning the Brian Garrish VIDEO. So much has fallen right into place.
I think we all own a beep debt of gratitude to Brian as not only has his given us the light, but inspired us to work towards it.
So much has been explained, so much illumination thrown upon why Britain is failing so badly in today’s world.
Brian has revealed why it is important to the COMMON PURPOSE “movement” to subjugate the UK citizenry and where such subjugation is ultimately leading us.
I often pondered over why, in my association with the Groundwork Foundation. Various local authorities and Regional Government in Manchester, and of course the total shambles in the Welsh Assembly and farcical Welsh local councils, inevitably left me angry and frustrated over the lack of innovation motivation, and the desire to deliver the best possible service to the public.
I pondered as to why there were so many absolutely useless people in responsible posts doing little, accept when not in the inevitable eternal round of closed door meetings, advocating more useless people for more important posts. Further more when most of these people left local/regional government they always seem to find themselves tied up with administrative quangos. NHS Trust boards, social security commissioner etc etc.
I know Britain was heading for decay and an infrastructural melt down. I knew I had figured the cause, but I just could not understand why this was being allowed to happen. I have long realised that British democracy was a farce and that we were acting like international terrorist in trying to force it upon others. no matter how much cannon fodder we wasted doing so). I had reasoned that all MPs must be answering to a higher calling than that of mere party politics. Also it had long dawn upon me that Westminster was just a rubber stamping factory process, but I could never quite figure out who was pulling the strings.
Of course I have a lot more theories, but right now I am deeply indebted to Brian for added some fact.
There is no doubt that for those who love freedom we are all in big trouble, in that not knowing just how infected we are the blight of the COMMON PURPOSE.
I suppose it could be only a question of time, and a short one to boot, before we start hearing of “Action against the Un-British Spirit,” and new great Säuberung, all in the State’s best interest of course!
I wonder if this sounds familiar to you (which I have only slightly amended to bring up to date).–––
“British men and women! The age of arrogant indigenous intellectualism is now at an end! . . . You are doing the right thing at this midnight hour—to consign to the flames the unclean spirit of the past. This is a great, powerful, and symbolic act. . . . Out of these ashes the phoenix of a new age will arise. . . . Oh Century! Oh Science! It is a joy to be alive!”
daviddegrothier1@yahoo.com
The Banks do not have any power. Their power, like the government’s power, comes from the consent of the people.
Look at your bank/credit card. The name is all in CAPITAL LETTERS. This is not you - the flesh and blood human-being. This is the name of your associated ‘person’ (or corporation) that the government created on the registration of your birth.
Do you think you are in debt? You, the flesh and blood human-being? How can you be in debt if there’s no money? Look at a £10 note. It says: ‘I promise to pay
the bearer…” It’s a promise to pay. It’s NOT payment. It’s no more valuable than an I.O.U. with a signature on it. There’s nothing behind it. It’s exactly the same with Electronic Funds Transfer - they’re just digits on a screen. There’s no vault full of gold ingots to back it up. So, they’re promising to pay you… what, exactly?
The only thing that makes money ‘real’ is our mutual consent that it’s real but it’s a big fraud which the Banks are collecting interest on by the sweat of our brows and seizing real assets, like our homes, when we can’t pay. Which is happening now on a massive scale.
If you consent-to-contract with banks/government/courts by being surety to your ‘person’ you have limited rights and freedoms. Consent does not require affirmation, it merely requires your silence and inaction or, in most cases, your acquiescence. But, consent can be revoked, particularly if the contract you entered into is unilateral, fraudulent or just not certain as David Grothier rightly points out.
If you choose not to be surety to your ‘person’ and refuse to contract with the banks/government/courts, in other words you don’t agree to play their rigged Monopoly game with fiat money and fake laws, they are left to deal with the human-being in a Common Law jurisdiction who can refuse to consent-to-contract by not entering their de facto courts. The human-being has all the unalienable rights and freedoms as provided by God and is not subject to the “Statutes of Omri” - the Statutes man has created and attributed to your ‘person’ - the legal fiction. You, the human-being, can refuse to contract (a corporation, your ‘person’, cannot contract which is why the banks/government/courts have to get you to consent to be surety to it) and any contract entered into requires your voluntary consent. So, the banks/government/courts have to trick you into believing that you, the flesh and blood human-being and the ‘person’, the corporation, are one and the same.
Their statutes only ever become applicable to you, the human-being, when you are surety to their fake ‘person’. Everything you receive from the government to do with fines, taxes, or just anything compelling you to carry out an action, is addressed to your ‘person’, JOE BLOGGS.
That’s why the affidavit by John Harris is so important. He has revoked his consent-to-contract to be governed. He has forfeited his ‘person’. He has lawfully withdrawn support of and participation in their rigged Monopoly game. John’s course of action to become a Freeman is open to anyone at any time. They can’t rig the game if no one’s playing can they?
At one time there only ever used to be barter and exchange of goods. Money, their money, is a ‘middleman’ nobody ever needed or needs today.
Just look at any statute they’ve cooked up, the Income Tax Act for example, and look carefully at to whom (or what) the ‘law’ applies. It’ll be the ‘person’ or ‘individual’ every time. Neither of these terms denote a living, breathing, flesh and blood human-being.
And therein lies the great deception.
This is also why it is vital that if people only ever say ‘NO’ to just one thing, it has to be ‘NO’ to the National ID card. Why? Because if you voluntarily fuse yourself - your biometrics (the human-being) - with your associated ‘person’ (the corporation) you will consent-to-contract to live in bondage and servitude to government for the rest of your life. You will be a slave. I think people opposed to ID cards know this at a deep level even if they can’t articulate it. Then it’ll be micro-chipping people for ultimate surveillance and control. The planners think this is already in the bag that’s why they’ve started rolling it out for the metropolitan police and prisoners. They might even attempt to ‘hopscotch’ over the ID cards and just go for the chips if they can persuade Bin Laden to come up with another ‘terror attack’ from his hidden cave, hidden away somewhere in some hidden mountains. They’re so arrogant they think they’ve already won.
Don’t take my word for it though, get in touch with the International Bar Association in London and ask to whom statutes are applicable in a Common Law jurisdiction - the human-being or the ‘person’ and then ask them their legal interpretation of the meaning of ‘person’ to which the statute applies. Don’t hold your breath waiting for an answer because you’re probably not going to get one (speaks volumes, doesn’t it). But, there’s no harm in trying:
International Bar Association
10th Floor
1 Stephen Street
London W1T 1AT
United Kingdom
A good film to check out on Google video is Robert Arthur Menard’s “Bursting the Bubbles of Government Deception”. Which provides an intro to some of the themes I’ve mentioned above. Robert-Arthur: Menard, Freeman-on-the-Land lives in British Columbia but more or less the same applies here.
Great Darren we all need to get that out to more and more people
going by what iam reading by your comments regarding the eu? i feel people are beginning to come of the fence and shout wolf? there is know doubt in my mind this paper and brian girrish are now leading the people of the uk into the light of truth ? but time is not on our side , and we must unite in every town and village through out the uk ? especialy in getting the uk column into the hands of people who are willing to put ..what may come in the future aside ? and be bilistic in getting the truth across? know matter what? this is called FAITH? god bless
http://www.petercampbell.faithweb.com
http://www.christianawakening.com
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ukip.scotland
I think this will astonish you as it did me.
I just rang the Justice Department for some info.
Eventually, I was put through to a person.
The person I spoke with did not know what the MAGNA CARTA was.
I see yet another MP is on the fiddle, this time its Wendy Alexander.
Has this now become the established official British passtime for all our elected represntatives?
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I’m not sure about the universe. Albert Einstein:
Our MAGNA CARTA laid the foundation for justice world wide.
Bye, bye Britain, Britain bye bye.
Me I am just all for common sense and fair play all round, have we not got enough daft politicians without having to endure daft judges who obvious don’t have a clue as to the implications of what they say.
Try and take UK LAW TO MUSLIM LANDS.
Take a look at this folks. The end is nigh as they say. But given Britain’s absolutely stupidity in all matters of our heritage–-LONG OVER DUE WOULD BE THE MORE APPROPRIATE!
Sharia law could play a role in some parts of the legal system, the most senior judge in England and Wales has said.
The Lord Chief Justice, Lord Phillips of Worth Matravers, emphatically ruled out the possibility of sharia courts sitting in this country or deciding penalties.
But in a speech at the East London Muslim Centre in Whitechapel last night he said there was no reason why sharia principles could not be used in “mediation or other forms of alternative dispute resolution”.
Sharia - a set of principles governing the way that many Muslims believe one should live one’s life - suffered from “widespread misunderstanding” by the rest of the world, he added.
Lord Phillips said: “There is no reason why sharia principles, or any other religious code, should not be the basis for mediation or other forms of alternative dispute resolution.
“It must be recognised, however, that any sanctions for a failure to comply with the agreed terms of mediation would be drawn from the laws of England and Wales.”
The Lord Chief Justice told his audience that severe physical punishments such as flogging, stoning and the cutting off of hands would not be acceptable.
He added: “There can be no question of such courts sitting in this country, or such sanctions being applied here.
“So far as the law is concerned, those who live in this country are governed by English and Welsh law and subject to the jurisdiction of the English and Welsh courts.”
The judge said the Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr Rowan Williams, had been misunderstood when it was reported in February that he said British Muslims could be governed by sharia law.
Dr Williams suggested that sharia could play a role in “aspects of marital law, the regulation of financial transactions and authorised structures of mediation and conflict resolution”.
The Lord Chief Justice said: “It was not very radical to advocate embracing sharia law in the context of family disputes, for example, and our system already goes a long way towards accommodating the Archbishop’s suggestion.
“It is possible in this country for those who are entering into a contractual agreement to agree that the agreement shall be governed by a law other than English law.”
Downing Street said the Government’s position on the issue of sharia law had been made clear at the time of the controversy over the Archbishop’s speech.
“We think that British law should be based on British values and determined by the British Parliament,” the Prime Minister’s spokesman said.
By our peers… That means trial by jury for both civil and criminal cases.
We need to arrest and trial those corrupt.
We need to inspire police to act in groups and arrest people in authority when they are found to be corrupt, even if their police superiors deny them the path they should still act in the law.
Admirable sentiments, however in most cases today in the UK the police owe just that little more than their sworn oath of allegiance to their duty to uphold the law and protect and serve the public. Their allegiance is inevitably to the police force that pays them and equally inevitably that police force is simply a tool of those who pull the strings behind the policy of the day./ ever thought what Britain has been allowed to drift into such a drugged out crime ridden, knife/gun infested society?).
Then of course any prosecution has to have sanction of the CPS, and that’s where the real problem lays, because the CPS are clearly guilty of a selective application of the law. I don’t know who is behind the CPS, but I am sure that some here will have a much better idea than me.
Unfortunately Britain has lost any sense of “Accountability” to Her public as She has been repeatedly raped and abused by many men in the shadows who are full, only of self interest and will not be satisfied until the deflowering is complete and the public left bonded to the nothingness of an empty shell.
[...] Magna Carta Man Common Law, UK News April 9th, 2008 Original [...]
I think that some here need to be very careful in their underestimation of the personal powers of the Queen.
The queen is far from the hard done by suffering little lady at the hands of those who claim to control her royal prerogatives—the queen in fact is the main string puller and if anything the description, “the enemy within,” would be highly appropriate!
IF THE QUEEN DOES NOT WANT BRITAIN IN EUROPE, THEN BRITAIN STAYS OUT- Q.E.D!
CHECK UP ON YOUR CONSTITUTIONALLY AND ADMINISTRATIVE LAW, AND YOU WILL FIND SO MANY PERSONAL OATHS OF ALLEGIANCE SWORN DIRECTLY AND PERSONALLY TO LIZ AND NOT THE INSTITUTION OF THE MONARCHY.
We often hear it said that there are many treasonous acts taking place right now against the queen. I would suggest that the queen is guilty of more which is why appealing directly to queen as John Harris HAS DONE TO RE-ESTABLISH HIS POSITION UNDER COMMON LAW, AS ADMIRABLE AS IT, WOULD PRIMA-FACE APPEAR– A WASTE OF TIME, AS IT CAN BEEN LIKEN TO ASKING THE DEVIL TO FREEZE YOUR WEEK’S SHOP FROM ICELAND.
To my knowledge, John Harris has yet to receive a reply which actually challenges the lawful legitimacy of his affidavits. In the same way as silence and inaction denotes consent, silence and inaction also denotes acceptance.
I don’t think he wasted his time.
This is what John said-–
On the 22nd day of March 2008 I personally went to Buckingham Palace to serve an Affidavit on Her Majesty the Queen. My Oath, (which has been signed and sealed by a solicitor) states quite clearly, that I now give Her Majesty 40 days to dismiss the traitors that reside in the Parliament of this country.
Well the “traitors” are still there and therefore to me it was a waste of time–especially as none, to my knowledge, flocked to join John in his plight!. But I take my hat off to his efforts.
Be that as it may, the point I was making was that the queen is the biggest traitor of all and John Harris has failed to identify this.
Although for John’s plan to work he would still need the queen as head of state, and that’s where it all falls down and sets the path for something very nasty indeed, as the queen has many oaths sworn personally to her.
John is very deeply influenced by Druids and Templars etc WHICH TO ME ARE ALL MAN MADE STUFF.
I make no bones about my strong working class socialist heritage which drives me today.
All men should live in dignity, with decency and morality, and all men and monarchs should respect the Rule of Law.
If any of you here want to see a free and just Britain, then its time to start looking for all to be accountable.
Out of all the words that I have found government today fears the most its that of ACCOUNTABILITY, THEY HATE IT AS THEY KNOW WHAT IT IMPLIES.
John is trying to fight this despotic system through using the very same system.
This can never work as the change we need in Britain today must be a complete fresh change that will sweep away all that evil which has brought us to where we are today.. ie a nation on its knees!
“Don’t fight forces, use them.”
“You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.”
— Buckminster Fuller
It wasn’t a waste of time. He used the system, as it stands, against itself.
The system, as evil as it is, is what we currently have to work with. There is not currently another lawful system in place with which we can work. Can we agree on that?
The state is bound by law to accept John’s claim of right because they are the laws of the state. Can we agree on that?
After the prerequisite 40 day period in which the Head of State had the opportunity to address his grievances according to Article 61 of the Magna Charta, John sends his second affidavit which asserts claim of right to lawfully revoke his consent to be governed. However, John’s second affidavit also states that when redress has been obtained, according to Article 61, he would resume relations. All according to constitutional law.
To my knowledge, John has yet to receive a reply which actually challenges the legitimacy of his affidavits.
The Queen is bound by her Coronation Oath to govern the people of the United Kingdom according to our laws and customs. Can we agree on that?
The Queen has given Royal Assent to every EU Treaty put before her including the Lisbon Treaty.
Did the Queen willfully break her Coronation Oath? Could it be her hand was forced? We may never know. But, it’s certain that anyone who does not want to be governed by the EU has a legitimate grievance with Her Majesty. Can we agree on that?
John has used the existing system, as evil as it is, to free himself from that system.
Their laws will trap them in a prison of their own making only those who withdraw from it will be free.
Why fight the system? They’ve got all the big guns haven’t they? They’re never going to be accountable to the people and so it’s up to the people to lawfully withdraw their support of and participation in the system.
Then you’ll see it’s just a house of cards.
David, you just said it yourself in the quote you posted: “Don’t fight forces, use them.”
My point exactly.
Let us say then that it was an exercise in futility. The state of the administration is such today that they care not about laws as they have become a law unto themselves. Surely you can see that?
Regrettably, the state is bound to accept nothing, only that which it wishes to, such is the decay in Britain today. Laws are being used, abused, bent a twisted every day in the UK to suit the purpose of government, why should they listen to John?
The government took us into Europe and passed laws to legalise the fact. Sure it may be treasonous to have done so, but they did it, and we are in, and soon to be swamped by the EU who even feel strong enough to brazenly and openly object to the democratic, “No” vote of the Irish–-such is the evil of corrupted power that cares nothing for traditional rights enshrined in European wide democracy, if there even is such a thing today!
This government thinks nothing of the Magna Carta, which they feel they can repeal at any time. UK Column has been send a copy letter today from the Justice Ministry to me, of that effect.
The Queen is a true power base, she is bound only by what she wishes to be bound to. I really wish you would all get your facts right as to the powers, personal and constitutional, of the queen, who she is, and what she heads and who has sworn a personal oath of allegiance to her directly.
You say––––-The system, as evil as it is, is what we currently have to work with. There is not currently another lawful system in place with which we can work. And ask–- Can we agree on that?
Every person has a duty to fight evil and corruption where it is found. In fact we are commanded to do so in the name of GOD. Consequently, I have declared myself and enemy of the state we call the United Kingdom today and will continue to oppose this evil regime as when and where I can until we have a return to the full and proper democratic values that millions of our country men fought and died for in global wars.
Ghandi said ‘we must BE the change we wish to see in the world’. This refers directly to the fact that, if we do nothing , we will deserve all that is coming to us. - John Burge
You further state––– Why fight the system? They’ve got all the big guns haven’t they? They’re never going to be accountable to the people and so it’s up to the people to lawfully withdraw their support of and participation in the system.
Why fight the system? They’ve got all the big guns haven’t they? Could it be that your are afraid of their big guns? Is not John Harries fighting the system in his own way. Do we not have a duty to honour our glorious dead who died in the vane cause of preserving democracy and do we not have a duty to protect those currently being harmed by this system that has now taken to sectioning its opponents?
Do you think those with all the big guns are idiots? Do you seriously think that they will sit back and let a Harrisian manipulation of the law deprive of their power? Dream on if you do as they will fight you all one way or another.
How naive to think that their laws will trap them in a prison of their own making. Such abuses have not done so to date. in fact the administration’s abuses of the law have served them well to the point where the British public are now the Great Citizensheeeeeeeeep! And evil surrounds us all while good men choose to do nothing.
These people will fight you, and fight you hard to save their rotten skins. They sent the troops down to the valleys, and you can still see the bullet marks on the walls there. The miners, they claimed were a threat to the government, but it was the government who were a threat to the miners, keeping them, as they did, and their families below starvation wages–-all the miners wanted in the 1920s was a decent living wage. And these were the same people who had just gone through WWI and were promised a “Land fit for Heroes by Lloyd George. And the same autocratic attitude can be seem with the 1980 miners¡ strikes to save their jobs, only this time the police armed, as they were, who were primed to agitate and smash all opposition to unwarranted enforced social change.( Now we import more coal than we ever produced, and the valleys are in a state of job hungry desolation).
True there can be no greater proof of the folly in men than to use violence but someone starts conflicts and wars and its violence that usually ends up finishing them, until the next time round.
I have no doubt none whatsoever that if a 1000 John Harries marched to serve their affidavits they would be meet by armed police.–then you would see how the house of cards reacts..
“The Queen has given Royal Assent to every EU Treaty put before her including the Lisbon Treaty”
I understood that it was DAISY BROWN who had signed us up for Lisbon and that Albert Burgess was currently looking into the legality of this!
Did the Queen willfully break her Coronation Oath? Could it be her hand was forced? We may never know. But, it’s certain that anyone who does not want to be governed by the EU has a legitimate grievance with Her Majesty. Can we agree on that?
If the queen wilfully broke her solemn coronation oath, then she no longer should be queen and should be immediately removed,( lolololol but by whom–so much for a constitutional monarchy), meanwhile we are stuck in Europe, unless there is a massive opposition to being so!–-can ”We” agree on that?
Meanwhile, as much as I admire John Harris’s stand. I still feel there is more to it than he is letting on.
Could it be we can expect a resurgence of the ancient powers of the Knight Templars and all be expected to pay homage to the dark forces druidism?
Just make me think!
THE FULL QUOTE FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE WHO SEE WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE.
“Don’t fight forces, use them.”
“You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.”
— Buckminster Fuller
“Don’t fight forces, use them.”
“You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.”
— Buckminster Fuller
It’s a great quote and I agree with it entirely. Question: How can you build a new model if everyone is still using the existing one?
That’s why I advocate withdrawing support of and participation in the existing model/system.
That’s easy all you have to do is to construct a new social model and offer it as a new and better alternative.
Trying to change the current system from within is doomed to fail before your start, as apart from the many and varied vested interests, you don’t even begin to understand exactly what it is your are trying to change and who controls it.
Britain is now at its most dangerously corrupt stage ever with evil tentacles everywhere, even if you just take the spread of Common Purpose as an example without lodges and other orders all festering of the current corrupt system and will hang onto it and support it limpet fashion come what may.
I welcome all ideas for change for the better, but they have to be of sound foundation, and even if you could change the system doing it your way it would take for too many generations to pass to even make a dent, let alone an inroad for change.
Meanwhile the system grinds on and with each turn of the wheel reduces our rights and heritage until we have nothing but a life under the ideals of Adolf Hitler who foretold of a Europe under German domination.
Germany of course lost the war, which of course in reality it never did, and the influences linger on with over 300000 Belgian and Dutch volunteering for the Waffen SS in 1944 alone, many are still with us today. And never lose sight that the British cabinet in 1940 were 80% for capitulation to Germany then.
Therefore, it does not take much to see why we are in a hell of state of unarrestable decline today. The only problem we have is understanding why this has happened. I believe the Brian Gerrish has gone some mean way in explaining this to us.
Understanding Brian`s message goes a long way to explain why John Harris will never succeed without a massive following that he is unlikely to get as the vested interests are now clearly in control of the media, the workers and the jobs. Therefore even presenting a credible alternative is going to prove to be a hellishly difficult task.
THIS IS WHAT JOHN HARRIS DOES NOT TELL YOU AND MISGUIDELY WANTS TO OVER THROW¡
HE SADLY HAS NO CHANCE
Please look at this, and the queen figures centrally.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=_SlIHqdVEmc&feature=related
“I welcome all ideas for change for the better, but they have to be of sound foundation, and even if you could change the system doing it your way it would take for too many generations to pass to even make a dent, let alone an inroad for change.”
Mate, I don’t care whether you welcome my ideas or not, or whether you think they’re of ’sound foundation’ or not. I’m sharing information - people take it or leave it. You go right ahead and do what you think will work for you. I shan’t knock you for it.
I’ll try and make this as clear as I can - again. As I have said in a number of earlier posts, I’m not out to try and change the system. I have withdrawn my support of and participation in the system which oppresses me (non-payment of taxes, fines, TV licence, etc). A completely different thing to trying to ‘change the system’.
John Harris is not trying to ‘overthrow’, as you state in your post above, he has withdrawn his consent to be governed which, again, is a completely different thing.
Hey, take it or leave it, mate. If you’ve got a better way - go for it.
Die that mean you have become ostriches?
Life can be a lot easier when you chose to withdraw and bury your heads in the sand.
I would rather leave your methods, thank you, as it ispainfully obvious that the road Britain is on right now has a dead end in Brussels.
When it stops there you, Mr Harris and the like, wont have the opportunity to protest, as you do, as there will be no monarchy or British Constitution to withdraw your support from.
I honestly believe that the ugly face of Brussels, if it gets its way, will make dear old Adolf look like and angel of mercy!
We have already seen the unthinkable opposition to the Irish NO vote, from Brussels.
Therefore, if we have the EU constitution fully ratified, then what next? A reopening of the Camps for the re-education of all those who remove their support for Brussels?
I am affraid that you, and your like minded friends need to face up to the urgent realities of the situation, as with each passing day your right to withold you support for the this system is erroded just that little bit more.
One day you may well wake up and find there is no longer a Britain, just another small EU administrative district—what will you do then?
British Democracy at work–but what the hell its only tax payer’s money!
Livingstone refuses to appear before audit panel
Livingstone, former London mayor, has refused to appear before the audit panel probing misspending allegations
Former London mayor Ken Livingstone has refused to appear before the Forensic Audit Panel chaired by former Sunday Telegraph editor-Patience Wheatcroft which is investigating allegations of misspending during his tenure.
The former mayor replied to the invitation that, although he was happy to work with any ‘genuinely independent body’, he considered Wheatcroft’s audit panel neither objective nor independent, The Evening Standard reports.
Livingstone also said in his reply that there was a conflict of interest with the panel’s fifth member Andrew Gordon, a partner at accountancy firm PricewaterhouseCoopers, which has been awarded work by the panel.
In the panel’s interim report, released last month, Wheatcroft said there had been a culture where spending was encouraged and political interference common. Her full report is expected to be released today.
Are our days number now? Treacherous, treasonous and totally illegal yet no one for the great British Citizensheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep opposses Daisy Brown
UK NEWS SOLD OUT TO EUROPE: BROWN MAKES QUEEN SIGN AWAY OUR SOVEREIGNTY
Story from: Daily Express
By Macer Hall Political Editor
GORDON Brown was last night accused of betraying Britain with a “grubby”surrender to Brussels.
Under a cloak of secrecy, the Government finally ratified the Lisbon Treaty earlier this week and committed the country to a new deluge of European meddling.
In a sign of the Prime Minister’s personal embarrassment over the betrayal, the historic step was only made public yesterday – 24 hours after the covert ceremony had taken place.
The instrument of ratification was signed by the Queen, who had no choice. Because Mr Brown had signed the treaty, she was constitutionally forced to follow suit.
The document was then flown in a diplomatic bag to Rome and delivered to the Italian Foreign Ministry at noon on Wednesday.
Mr Brown was last night facing widespread revolt and even the threat of further legal action after forcing the treaty into law without the promised referendum.
Tory Shadow Foreign Secretary William Hague said: “Gordon Brown has no democratic or moral authority to sign Britain up to what is a renamed EU constitution. This move is a total breach of trust with the British people and a flagrant breach of his solemn election promise. It is a sign of how arrogant and out of touch this Government has become that it is totally uninterested in what the British people want on Europe.
“It also means that the Government is joining in the ugly bullying of the Irish people, who have clearly rejected this treaty in a referendum. Trying to push ahead with the treaty shows an utter lack of respect for the Irish voters’ democratic decision.
“As long as the Irish decision is not reversed, the EU treaty will not be in force at the next general election. A new Conservative Government would then take back the instrument of ratification and put the treaty to a referendum, recommending a ‘No’ vote.
“That is the honourable and democratic thing to do.”
He pointed out that Mr Brown signed the treaty last year in a bizarre solo ceremony separate from the EU’s 26 other national leaders.
Mr Hague added: “Whether it’s Brown turning up late to sign the treaty or slipping out the news that they’ve finally handed over the crucial document, Labour has never had the guts to come out and put a case for the repackaged EU constitution.”
Tory backbencher Douglas Carswell, a leading Euro-sceptic, said: “The way this treaty was signed was underhand and grubby and a betrayal of the UK. It shows this treaty has no proper legitimacy. And I think it also shows how useless our Parliament is.
“While MPs were debating their expenses and deciding whose snout should go in which trough, another serious erosion of British sovereignty was taking place.”
Lorraine Mullally, of the Euro-sceptic think-tank Open Europe, said: “The Government has been dishonest and cowardly about this right from the beginning.
“First Gordon Brown signed it in Brussels in secret and now they’ve ratified it on the sly. They are ashamed of it because they know people don’t want it. Gordon Brown has behaved in a cowardly way because he is scared of the voters.”
Andy Smith, of the Campaign For An Independent Britain, said: “The whole history of this treaty is one of trickery and deceit. They reckon they can slip it through.”
A Foreign Office spokesman last night claimed the timing of the British ratification was dictated by the administrative process of drawing up the documents and getting the required signatures.
“Ratification is a matter for each individual EU nation. There is no question at all of Ireland being bullied,” the spokesman added.