Comments on: Happy Deathday England, Love ZanuLabour http://www.ukcolumn.org/2009/04/23/happy-deathday-england-love-zanulabour/ Fri, 05 Mar 2010 00:34:41 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Vicky http://forums.ukcolumn.org/showthread.php?tid=&pid=#pid Vicky Fri, 15 May 2009 08:27:25 +0000 http://www.ukcolumn.org/?p=916#comment-4103 There was no such place as Turkey when George was around!! St. George Feastday: April 23 Patron of England & Catalonia St. George Pictures of St. George usually show him killing a dragon to rescue a beautiful lady. The dragon stands for wickedness. The lady stands for God's holy truth. St. George was a brave martyr who was victorious over the devil. He was a soldier in the army of the Roman Emperor Diocletian, and he was one of the Emperor's favorite soldiers. Now Diocletian was a pagan and a bitter enemy to the Christians. He put to death every Christian he could find. George was a brave Christian, a real soldier of Christ. Without fear, he went to the Emperor and sternly scolded him for being so cruel. Then he gave up his position in the Roman army. For this he was tortured in many terrible ways and finally beheaded. So boldly daring and so cheerful was St. George in declaring his Faith and in dying for it that Christians felt courage when they heard about it. Many songs and poems were written about this martyr. Soldiers, especially, have always been devoted to him. We all have some "dragon" we have to conquer. It might be pride, or anger, or laziness, or greediness, or something else. Let us make sure we fight against these "dragons", with God's help. Then we can call ourselves real soldiers of Christ. By the way, you'd have to go a long way to beat the Racism of Fabians, our present government. Australian Abbos would be a good place to start, then back home to positive discrimination.. There was no such place as Turkey when George was around!!

St. George
Feastday: April 23
Patron of England & Catalonia

St. George
Pictures of St. George usually show him killing a dragon to rescue a beautiful lady. The dragon stands for wickedness. The lady stands for God’s holy truth. St. George was a brave martyr who was victorious over the devil.

He was a soldier in the army of the Roman Emperor Diocletian, and he was one of the Emperor’s favorite soldiers. Now Diocletian was a pagan and a bitter enemy to the Christians. He put to death every Christian he could find. George was a brave Christian, a real soldier of Christ. Without fear, he went to the Emperor and sternly scolded him for being so cruel. Then he gave up his position in the Roman army. For this he was tortured in many terrible ways and finally beheaded.

So boldly daring and so cheerful was St. George in declaring his Faith and in dying for it that Christians felt courage when they heard about it. Many songs and poems were written about this martyr. Soldiers, especially, have always been devoted to him.

We all have some “dragon” we have to conquer. It might be pride, or anger, or laziness, or greediness, or something else. Let us make sure we fight against these “dragons”, with God’s help. Then we can call ourselves real soldiers of Christ.

By the way, you’d have to go a long way to beat the Racism of Fabians, our present government.
Australian Abbos would be a good place to start, then back home to positive discrimination..

]]> By: glenn http://forums.ukcolumn.org/showthread.php?tid=&pid=#pid glenn Mon, 11 May 2009 15:47:49 +0000 http://www.ukcolumn.org/?p=916#comment-3938 What are the chances of getting Lizzy in the dock ? What are the chances of getting Lizzy in the dock ?

]]> By: Mark Welsh http://forums.ukcolumn.org/showthread.php?tid=&pid=#pid Mark Welsh Mon, 11 May 2009 00:06:12 +0000 http://www.ukcolumn.org/?p=916#comment-3879 Very interesting, and on the face of it at least, valid point Glenn! Very interesting, and on the face of it at least, valid point Glenn!

]]> By: glenn http://forums.ukcolumn.org/showthread.php?tid=&pid=#pid glenn Sun, 10 May 2009 17:55:42 +0000 http://www.ukcolumn.org/?p=916#comment-3830 As Lizzy Windsor effectively abdicated on the first of jan' 1973 there has not been a parliament properly sworn in since then. So no new statutes are binding since then ! Arguably long before then for many reasons, but a signature on a seditious document is proof that lizzy isn't Queen any more and hasn't been since then! The whole thing is a fraud ! As Lizzy Windsor effectively abdicated on the first of jan’ 1973 there has not been a parliament properly sworn in since then. So no new statutes are binding since then ! Arguably long before then for many reasons, but a signature on a seditious document is proof that lizzy isn’t Queen any more and hasn’t been since then! The whole thing is a fraud !

]]> By: sharon http://forums.ukcolumn.org/showthread.php?tid=&pid=#pid sharon Sat, 09 May 2009 11:06:47 +0000 http://www.ukcolumn.org/?p=916#comment-3745 You make some very good points. I'm undecided on this but something tells me it stinks. If it is true that statute law cannot take precedence over common law then that raises serious questions. Also if the declaration of rights cannot be superseded then most statute law is unlawful because the declaration of rights states that most taxes are prohibited and that people can only be judged by a jury of their peers. As for different barristers providing different opinions - not sure that matters too much because it would have to be tested out in court and would eventually become part of case law, I guess. You make some very good points. I’m undecided on this but something tells me it stinks. If it is true that statute law cannot take precedence over common law then that raises serious questions. Also if the declaration of rights cannot be superseded then most statute law is unlawful because the declaration of rights states that most taxes are prohibited and that people can only be judged by a jury of their peers.
As for different barristers providing different opinions – not sure that matters too much because it would have to be tested out in court and would eventually become part of case law, I guess.

]]> By: welsh_messenger http://forums.ukcolumn.org/showthread.php?tid=&pid=#pid welsh_messenger Sat, 09 May 2009 09:31:05 +0000 http://www.ukcolumn.org/?p=916#comment-3744 The uncovering of this information on D&B may or may or may not be of significance. However, having checked it out for myself I noticed that Newcastle Council also traded as the local Magistrates Court. I am aware that under the Local Government Act 2000 that LA's were required to select from four options of reformed constitutional makeup. The licensing function of the magistrates Courts was also transferred to local authorities although the funding didn't follow that transfer of function. The first point that struck me was that this new method of working undermined the ‘doctrine of separation of powers’. For example, the LA also enforces the smoking ban through it’s EHO’s. Should a landlord be seen to turn a blind eye to his customers smoking he could loose his liquor license. It would be highly inappropriate, if on appeal to the magistrates, for his case to be heard by members of the same corporate body that withdrew his license in the first place. In simple terms the Corporation would be acting as civil policeman, prosecutor and judge in the same case. The potential certainly would exist for justice to be traded for profit. The Editor raises a valid point in saying that “Personally speaking, I am not convinced of most of this. I am willing to be - but so far, I haven’t seen the evidence, and just because lots of people are saying it, doesn’t make it so". The evidence that something is very wrong is to be found in the publication of Magistrate’s court sentencing. A smoker who “drops a cigarette end is given a penalty of over £1,000” in comparison with one who is found guilty of “Drunk and disorderly behaviour and assaulting a police officer who was given a penalty of £175”. It might also be relevant to the promoters of the ‘life’s an illusion’ theory that the Lisbon Treaty provides the EU with legal personality. Why now? The Editor also asks “why is it wrong, in principle, that government should be constituted that way?” In terms of corporate law a corporate entity can only perform those acts defined in the objects clause of its’ constitutional documents. Corporate acts the extend beyond those powers are ‘ultra vires’ and void. Glenn said “It’s easy to get the impression that all lawyers are gits but there do seem to be exceptions”. The vital question for me is “How many QC’s do you ask the question before you receive the legal opinion that you seek?” [Sorry for such a long post] The uncovering of this information on D&B may or may or may not be of significance. However, having checked it out for myself I noticed that Newcastle Council also traded as the local Magistrates Court. I am aware that under the Local Government Act 2000 that LA’s were required to select from four options of reformed constitutional makeup. The licensing function of the magistrates Courts was also transferred to local authorities although the funding didn’t follow that transfer of function.

The first point that struck me was that this new method of working undermined the ‘doctrine of separation of powers’. For example, the LA also enforces the smoking ban through it’s EHO’s. Should a landlord be seen to turn a blind eye to his customers smoking he could loose his liquor license. It would be highly inappropriate, if on appeal to the magistrates, for his case to be heard by members of the same corporate body that withdrew his license in the first place. In simple terms the Corporation would be acting as civil policeman, prosecutor and judge in the same case. The potential certainly would exist for justice to be traded for profit.

The Editor raises a valid point in saying that “Personally speaking, I am not convinced of most of this. I am willing to be – but so far, I haven’t seen the evidence, and just because lots of people are saying it, doesn’t make it so”.

The evidence that something is very wrong is to be found in the publication of Magistrate’s court sentencing. A smoker who “drops a cigarette end is given a penalty of over £1,000” in comparison with one who is found guilty of “Drunk and disorderly behaviour and assaulting a police officer who was given a penalty of £175”.

It might also be relevant to the promoters of the ‘life’s an illusion’ theory that the Lisbon Treaty provides the EU with legal personality. Why now?

The Editor also asks “why is it wrong, in principle, that government should be constituted that way?” In terms of corporate law a corporate entity can only perform those acts defined in the objects clause of its’ constitutional documents. Corporate acts the extend beyond those powers are ‘ultra vires’ and void.

Glenn said “It’s easy to get the impression that all lawyers are gits but there do seem to be exceptions”. The vital question for me is “How many QC’s do you ask the question before you receive the legal opinion that you seek?”
[Sorry for such a long post]

]]> By: glenn http://forums.ukcolumn.org/showthread.php?tid=&pid=#pid glenn Fri, 08 May 2009 18:35:20 +0000 http://www.ukcolumn.org/?p=916#comment-3739 Yes , people take great pride in their National languages and identities and that should be encouraged. Then there is the practicality of communication. It wouldn't kill us all to learn a second language, it seems to open the mind somehow ! Yes , people take great pride in their National languages and identities and that should be encouraged. Then there is the practicality of communication. It wouldn’t kill us all to learn a second language, it seems to open the mind somehow !

]]> By: glenn http://forums.ukcolumn.org/showthread.php?tid=&pid=#pid glenn Thu, 07 May 2009 13:30:34 +0000 http://www.ukcolumn.org/?p=916#comment-3663 Michael Mansfield might be the man, do think he'd be interested ? I also remember the Professor of legal jurisprudence at Oxford speaking passionately about the De Menezes affair, perhaps they'd like to know there are people thinking like this in the country ! It's easy to get the impression that all lawyers are gits but there do seem to be exceptions, perhaps we could find one to work on a price per question basis ? Maybe get a quote for an answer on a specific question, then see about raising the money ? I don't mean to be dismissive of the law discovery work done by ley people, but the police and courts will be dismissive given half a chance ! Michael Mansfield might be the man, do think he’d be interested ? I also remember the Professor of legal jurisprudence at Oxford speaking passionately about the De Menezes affair, perhaps they’d like to know there are people thinking like this in the country ! It’s easy to get the impression that all lawyers are gits but there do seem to be exceptions, perhaps we could find one to work on a price per question basis ? Maybe get a quote for an answer on a specific question, then see about raising the money ?

I don’t mean to be dismissive of the law discovery work done by ley people, but the police and courts will be dismissive given half a chance !

]]> By: sharon http://forums.ukcolumn.org/showthread.php?tid=&pid=#pid sharon Thu, 07 May 2009 13:05:46 +0000 http://www.ukcolumn.org/?p=916#comment-3657 I agree with you Glenn and it would be worth a few quid to get a barristers view because if it turned out that we could fight back using the legislation that would be positive, another piece in the armoury. I agree with you Glenn and it would be worth a few quid to get a barristers view because if it turned out that we could fight back using the legislation that would be positive, another piece in the armoury.

]]> By: glenn http://forums.ukcolumn.org/showthread.php?tid=&pid=#pid glenn Thu, 07 May 2009 09:06:45 +0000 http://www.ukcolumn.org/?p=916#comment-3627 This issue is active on a number of sites that have a great many visitors. All the people commenting are ley people to the law. They may have something, they may not. To get a definite answer that is concrete i believe will cost money in the form of Barristers fees. There are more than enough people who could throw a fiver in a pot to get this settled but it takes central organisation ! To know the right words to say to a pig if pulled over would be priceless to me ! This issue is active on a number of sites that have a great many visitors. All the people commenting are ley people to the law. They may have something, they may not. To get a definite answer that is concrete i believe will cost money in the form of Barristers fees. There are more than enough people who could throw a fiver in a pot to get this settled but it takes central organisation !

To know the right words to say to a pig if pulled over would be priceless to me !

]]> By: glenn http://forums.ukcolumn.org/showthread.php?tid=&pid=#pid glenn Thu, 07 May 2009 08:51:46 +0000 http://www.ukcolumn.org/?p=916#comment-3626 Mark, There are so many people looking at the nwo from so many different directions it has resulted in a mass of knowledge from diverse and specialist backgrounds coming together mainly on the net that needs sorting into categories and simplifying, just to make simple points to those not in the loop. follow the pyramid up and the bankers are the oil barons who are also the pharmaceutical giants who are also the manipulators of war. All points of attack on these people are equally valid. Perceived problem: Fuel running out and pollution. Solution: build Maglev generators ourselves at cost then enjoy virtually free, clean electricity ongoing. Problem: the monetary system doesn't work (for us ). Solution: take back control of printing our own money ! The list could go on but it all needs to be simplified for presentation to those great many people who know somethings wrong, but can't put their fingers on what, because the only information reaching them is garbage designed to keep them ignorant ! I know i can take them a column and that helps but you can't beat simplicity in as few words as possible, even if it only tells people there is an alternative to the current fiasco ! With the energy and creativity this country has it should be Utopian, but we are being confused,subdued and milked ! Mark,

There are so many people looking at the nwo from so many different directions it has resulted in a mass of knowledge from diverse and specialist backgrounds coming together mainly on the net that needs sorting into categories and simplifying, just to make simple points to those not in the loop. follow the pyramid up and the bankers are the oil barons who are also the pharmaceutical giants who are also the manipulators of war. All points of attack on these people are equally valid.

Perceived problem: Fuel running out and pollution. Solution: build Maglev generators ourselves at cost then enjoy virtually free, clean electricity ongoing.

Problem: the monetary system doesn’t work (for us ). Solution: take back control of printing our own money !

The list could go on but it all needs to be simplified for presentation to those great many people who know somethings wrong, but can’t put their fingers on what, because the only information reaching them is garbage designed to keep them ignorant !

I know i can take them a column and that helps but you can’t beat simplicity in as few words as possible, even if it only tells people there is an alternative to the current fiasco !

With the energy and creativity this country has it should be Utopian, but we are being confused,subdued and milked !

]]> By: glenn http://forums.ukcolumn.org/showthread.php?tid=&pid=#pid glenn Thu, 07 May 2009 08:21:52 +0000 http://www.ukcolumn.org/?p=916#comment-3624 I think you must have missed my point John, Zionism isn't Israel but it is the manipulation behind it. Wars seemingly based on nationality have to end, that means shaking hands with anyone presented to us as enemies by the manipulators and working together to defeat the Zionists. The buck stops with the Zionists by whatever name they go under, and nowhere else. I think you must have missed my point John, Zionism isn’t Israel but it is the manipulation behind it. Wars seemingly based on nationality have to end, that means shaking hands with anyone presented to us as enemies by the manipulators and working together to defeat the Zionists. The buck stops with the Zionists by whatever name they go under, and nowhere else.

]]> By: Mark Welsh http://forums.ukcolumn.org/showthread.php?tid=&pid=#pid Mark Welsh Wed, 06 May 2009 19:57:10 +0000 http://www.ukcolumn.org/?p=916#comment-3612 Spot on John! Spot on John!

]]> By: John Morton http://forums.ukcolumn.org/showthread.php?tid=&pid=#pid John Morton Wed, 06 May 2009 17:06:15 +0000 http://www.ukcolumn.org/?p=916#comment-3602 We are all missing the point here, the issue is not Turkey vs Israel or Muslims vs Christians. The issue is the MANIPULATION of CONFLICT, which lies at the heart of the VENETIAN IMPERIAL method, and always has. It is divide and rule that is our enemy. If we unite people around a common ecumenical principle, no matter what their religion, we can have a DIALOGUE OF CIVILIZATIONS, not a CLASH OF CIVILIZATIONS. We have to defeat the oligarchy in the realm of ideas where they operate to control us by means of our prejudices and fears. We are all missing the point here, the issue is not Turkey vs Israel or Muslims vs Christians.

The issue is the MANIPULATION of CONFLICT, which lies at the heart of the VENETIAN IMPERIAL method, and always has.

It is divide and rule that is our enemy.

If we unite people around a common ecumenical principle, no matter what their religion, we can have a DIALOGUE OF CIVILIZATIONS, not a CLASH OF CIVILIZATIONS.

We have to defeat the oligarchy in the realm of ideas where they operate to control us by means of our prejudices and fears.

]]> By: sharon http://forums.ukcolumn.org/showthread.php?tid=&pid=#pid sharon Wed, 06 May 2009 16:43:29 +0000 http://www.ukcolumn.org/?p=916#comment-3600 Thank you Editor. I have only recently come across this information and so I'm still doing the research. The whole thing just struck me as odd, but I take your points on board and like you I would like to get some answers. I do know that people have 'got away with it' by using commercial law with respect to things like fixed penalty notices and TV licences but as to the laws themselves I'm not sure. Thank you Editor.
I have only recently come across this information and so I’m still doing the research. The whole thing just struck me as odd, but I take your points on board and like you I would like to get some answers. I do know that people have ‘got away with it’ by using commercial law with respect to things like fixed penalty notices and TV licences but as to the laws themselves I’m not sure.

]]> By: Mark Welsh http://forums.ukcolumn.org/showthread.php?tid=&pid=#pid Mark Welsh Wed, 06 May 2009 15:20:17 +0000 http://www.ukcolumn.org/?p=916#comment-3593 Gerry, I AM a Scot! And to be so tunnel visioned and, dare I say it, stupidly ignorant to suggest it is the Scots, is just sickening. Was Edward Heath a Scot? Was John Major? Actually forget it. Idiocy such as that isn't worth my time. Personally, I despise the current and the former PMs. I despise every lie, every deception, every arrogance and everything they stand for. For what do they stand for? Absolutely nothing! They are parasites. Gerry, I AM a Scot! And to be so tunnel visioned and, dare I say it, stupidly ignorant to suggest it is the Scots, is just sickening.
Was Edward Heath a Scot? Was John Major? Actually forget it. Idiocy such as that isn’t worth my time.
Personally, I despise the current and the former PMs. I despise every lie, every deception, every arrogance and everything they stand for. For what do they stand for?

Absolutely nothing! They are parasites.

]]> By: Mark Welsh http://forums.ukcolumn.org/showthread.php?tid=&pid=#pid Mark Welsh Wed, 06 May 2009 15:13:43 +0000 http://www.ukcolumn.org/?p=916#comment-3592 Glenn, I truly believe cutting the head of the snake (Central Bank control) would achieve our goals. What this country COULD be is incredible. If only the people would wake up and accept that we really have an enormous issue BUT we know the solution. We could re-educate, re-invest, re-industrialise and productionise this entire country and have approx zero unemployment, in no time. Glenn,

I truly believe cutting the head of the snake (Central Bank control) would achieve our goals. What this country COULD be is incredible. If only the people would wake up and accept that we really have an enormous issue BUT we know the solution. We could re-educate, re-invest, re-industrialise and productionise this entire country and have approx zero unemployment, in no time.

]]> By: Mark Welsh http://forums.ukcolumn.org/showthread.php?tid=&pid=#pid Mark Welsh Wed, 06 May 2009 15:09:25 +0000 http://www.ukcolumn.org/?p=916#comment-3591 John, It's stuff like this that needs to be relayed to our forces. They need to understand the sheer deception they go to fight under. No-one wants a bloody revolution but these guys are getting sent out as cannon fodder (yes I realise they always have) but it isn't even for Queen and Country that they have always believed it to be. Many of them will never wish to accept this but for their own sakes they need to realise the truth in it all. John, It’s stuff like this that needs to be relayed to our forces. They need to understand the sheer deception they go to fight under.
No-one wants a bloody revolution but these guys are getting sent out as cannon fodder (yes I realise they always have) but it isn’t even for Queen and Country that they have always believed it to be.
Many of them will never wish to accept this but for their own sakes they need to realise the truth in it all.

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