Happy Deathday England, Love ZanuLabour

John Morton

Apr 23rd 2009
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Today England awoke to a thumping headache, a nation teetering on the brink of bankruptcy and economic collapse, after a budget that could only really be described as having been farted directly from the bowels of Satan himself. Well, if only he could have taken the time to tune his sphincter before billowing forth such an unholy collection of cacophonous garbage, because as far as I can tell, the entire shambolic mess does not stack up to the harsh scrutiny expected from a particularly learning impaired five year old.

That is not to even mention the fact that the national debt that we have now been saddled with, and are being forced to pay for, is illegal and illegitimate. Words that this regime are becoming quite comfortable with by all accounts, well after all, if the shoe fits, eh?

It’s nice to know that whilst those of us brave enough to still be proud of this country (after everything these criminals have done to it over the last 10 years) are busy attempting, via their best imitation of “stiff up a lip”, “muck in and get on with it” stoicism, to celebrate our national patron saints day, we are smacked rudely in the face yet again by the Vogonesque inter-planetary demolition squad that is New Labour.

Oh, but don’t worry folks, good old Auntie Beeb is on hand to help “reframe” any misguided patriotic impulses we may have into something more obscure and politically correct for the times. After all, there once was a nation called England, according to some bizarre myth that nobody really believes any more. No Common Purpose there then, no Siree.

So where are the dambusters when you need them? Somebody should just drop a few well placed bouncing bombs on the whole stinking lot of these scurrilously treasonous ratbags. Well, let me give you all a small clue :

The clock is ticking. It is 5 minutes to midnight. Either we remove these inept, evil and rapacious tyrants from power and take our country back, or there will be nothing left to argue about, or indeed anyone to argue about it with, in a few years from now.

What better way to celebrate St George’s day?


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  1. English Patriot says:

    Thank you John for a powerful comment on this day of England`s.

    At every turn today, I have heard a plethora of sarcastic anti English comments all from the rotten bowels of the BBC. i am absolutely disgusted!

    I love my country and I have fought on her behalf twice. For those in “power” listen very carefully – there are many of us who will, if required, fight to the death to help save her!

    The English are awakening and faster than many will give them credit for!

  2. Wiggins says:

    The Bard himself would have been proud of the opening paragraph.
    Huzza !

  3. Happy St Turkey day!!

  4. john gibbs says:

    TURN ON AND TUNE IN………..THE GAMES UP …..THIS IZ THE BUSINES END …STAND UP AND BE COUNTED…YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU………….

  5. glenn says:

    I think one of the first major changes that needs to happen in Britain is the re alignment of parliamentary divisions. We are encouraged to believe that two main parties, Tory and Labour, are both competing to find the best way to run Britain for the best interests of Britain and the British. Bullshit !

    What we’ve actually got is two parties, both controlled by Freemasons, that milk the country for the benefit of Zion and a Zionist elite. The York Rite of Freemasonry controls the Conservative party, the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry controls New Labour. Both groups of Freemasons are controlled by the Vatican !

    If parliament were to be truly representative their would be a Zionist party and a non Zionist pro British party. Of course the Zionists would get next to no votes, so don’t expect them to be in favour of this !

    I believe it’s up to our politicians now to find their backbones and re align themselves on a pro or non Zionist basis, if they could find some courage we’d have democracy again ! I also believe the next election is our last chance to use democracy to secure our freedom and our children’s freedom !

    glenn

    • I agree with your basic point Glenn – our two parties are mutually dependent. Remove either one and the rationale for the other collapses.

      Actually, as we all instinctively know, there can be only one correct policy for the country and I regret to note in my lifetime it has seldom been either the policy of the left or the right.

      We really need to create a bottom-up system. People who suppose they have something to contribute start in the villages and work their way up to Town Hall, state government and ultimately to the capital – no short cuts. A history of consistent selfless administration will facilitate our voting and improve the quality of our representatives

      • glenn says:

        Hi Roger’

        I don’t think there is time for the usual career route in politics any more, we’ve run out of time for all that. We need to recognise that we and our country are in great danger, democracy ends with the next false flag terror attack !

    • cheesy says:

      Not as simple as that, is is?
      It is worse, because we have actually had a very clever system of 3 parties operating for many years, where the third, apparently slightly less strong party, played the vital role of regularly hoovering up the protest vote of all the people cheesed off with the 2 main ones, and then did nothing for them- causing frustration and voter apathy.
      The dynamics of this situation has ensured in the past that clueless British voters meandered mainly around these big three.
      Now we have a variety of new Johnny Come Lately Parties which have been recently added.
      The Greens to “represent” – actually deceive – the New Agers, naive youngsters and emotionally immature adults that the Lib Dems don’t appeal to.
      And NuLab, by introducing Scottish, Welsh and N. Ireland parliaments have diverted disgruntled people in these regions into voting for their own regional, bigoted, patriotic time wasters.

    • Revolution Harry says:

      Glenn,

      I often see people saying Brown, Blair and others are Freemasons and I certainly suspect that is the case. That said what hard evidence is there? How have you come to the conclusion that the York Rite controls the Conservative party and the Scottish Rite the Labour party?

      On the subject of Freemasonry and political parties I think it’s intriguing that both the father and grandfather of Nick Griffin of the BNP are (or were in the case of the grandfather) Freemasons. It would certainly be useful to the agenda to have those of a nationalist, anti-EU and anti-immigration persuasion easily tarred with the brush of ‘fascism’, ‘extremism’ or ‘racism’.

      • cheesy says:

        Useful to who’s agenda, exactly? Not ours!
        You have slipped up, haven’t you? Or you need educating!
        You are in the wrong place.
        We are all ANTI – EU here!
        That is what Brian Gerrish and Co. the UK Column and the British Constitution Group are all about.
        Common Purpose are the new “Freemasons”, bringing us the NWO via the EU, and we are fighting them.
        Also, the low level Freemasons, which most ordinary masons are, are dumbb or naive, and oblivious to the wickedness and utter evil at the higher levels of their organisation. A bit like Communists, Socialists and NuLabor supporters.

  6. glenn says:

    A song for Europe !

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN6YkX9vvns

  7. MAX says:

    St George

    Is said to have been born in Turkey with a Greek father and Palestinian mother. Whilst serving in the Roman army, he refused to follow an unacceptable order requiring him to denounce and change his religion and for that he was tortured and executed.

    Yes, St George is a great choice of Patron Saint for a multi-cultural society where character and morality are more important than where your parents came from. But a rather strange choice for racist British National Party and National Front members to celebrate!

    DON’T YOU THINK?

    • English Patriot says:

      Multi-culturalism is a complete disaster for the UK and more so for England!

      That is why it is aggressively promoted and encouraged!

      • glenn says:

        The large number of Muslims that have been encouraged to move into Europe are here for a purpose, although they don’t know what that purpose is. In order to create the chaos from which a new world order can be formed, the elite need two sides to an argument/war. That’s why they need the Muslims specifically.

        When British SIS and Mossad conspired to blow up London on 7/7 they caused a rift between indigenous and Muslims. When they set the next bombs off this rift will become all out war and martial/satanic law in Britain.

        The west and Islam are being played against each other by Zionists !

    • Colin Poulter says:

      Max clearly is as blind and bigoted as his remarks would show. The British National Party is not bigoted at all and in no way equates with the bias and bigotry daily spewed forth by the Liebore dictatorship.

      The British National Party is the only independent group that is honest and straigh AND capable of bringing the ‘great’ back to Britain.

      Loook at their web site BEFORE making witless comments please.

    • Revolution Harry says:

      Sorry Max, I’m aware that immigrants are just as much victims in this as we, the indigenous population, are but multiculturism is a disaster. Diversity is divide and rule. The whole thing is held together with sticky tape and as soon as it suits the elites the divisions will be, easily, widened. As Glenn points out, the most likely division will be with Muslims.

      I’m no fan of Islam or mulitculturism and I cling to the hope that this overwhelming wave of immigration can be naturally and voluntarily somewhat reversed. All groups have to identify their common enemy; those who wish to implement a New World Order.

      One theory I have is that if we can destroy the corrupt and criminal banking system here in the UK the ripple effect around the world would be unstoppable. All countries of the world would then be free from theses tyrants and could flourish and thrive. This, in turn, would begin to draw back many immigrants who have recently come to Britain. This would enable a more balanced society to develop here.

      • Scott says:

        Multiculturalism is only a disaster because people see the differences in diversity. BBC News did a nice piece today about Poles on benefits, like they are the ones robbing from us! The way I see it: if you play Monopoly and the bankers bent don’t blame the other players on the board if the game gets messed up. When the shit really hits the fan I won’t be blaming Muslims or people in some other country. We need tolerance and if we aren’t tolerant to others they wont be tolerant to us. In a way we need to hijack and embrace the new world order, each individual needs to show respect to all people worldwide. Then this entire mess will collapse within days.

        • glenn says:

          The elite have played us off against each other throughout time. Just as soon as all people realise we are not each others enemies, just diverse people, and refuse to hate and fight each other, that’s when we beat the elite !

          There have been great efforts made by uk government to minimise the need for immigrants to learn English, mainly by providing translators, and translations of documents and notices into numerous languages. It helps keep us separated.
          If the elite want us separated by language we should ask why !

        • The Editor says:

          That’s true, Glenn. I would say, though, that we should think carefully before considering reducing the number of languages in the world. Different cultures and different languages are key to our survival. They bring diversity – and I don’t mean that in the sense of “diversity training” either.

          They bring concepts that are simply not expressible on other languages, for example. They bring approaches to solving problems that we may simply not have.

          I would argue that any division as a result of language is caused by poor education at an early age. If language was a core subject taught at school, as it once was, we wouldn’t have the problems we do. But since English is barely taught these days, never mind other languages, it seems to me we have greater division in this country even than you indicate in your comment …

        • glenn says:

          Yes , people take great pride in their National languages and identities and that should be encouraged. Then there is the practicality of communication. It wouldn’t kill us all to learn a second language, it seems to open the mind somehow !

    • Vicky says:

      There was no such place as Turkey when George was around!!

      St. George
      Feastday: April 23
      Patron of England & Catalonia

      St. George
      Pictures of St. George usually show him killing a dragon to rescue a beautiful lady. The dragon stands for wickedness. The lady stands for God’s holy truth. St. George was a brave martyr who was victorious over the devil.

      He was a soldier in the army of the Roman Emperor Diocletian, and he was one of the Emperor’s favorite soldiers. Now Diocletian was a pagan and a bitter enemy to the Christians. He put to death every Christian he could find. George was a brave Christian, a real soldier of Christ. Without fear, he went to the Emperor and sternly scolded him for being so cruel. Then he gave up his position in the Roman army. For this he was tortured in many terrible ways and finally beheaded.

      So boldly daring and so cheerful was St. George in declaring his Faith and in dying for it that Christians felt courage when they heard about it. Many songs and poems were written about this martyr. Soldiers, especially, have always been devoted to him.

      We all have some “dragon” we have to conquer. It might be pride, or anger, or laziness, or greediness, or something else. Let us make sure we fight against these “dragons”, with God’s help. Then we can call ourselves real soldiers of Christ.

      By the way, you’d have to go a long way to beat the Racism of Fabians, our present government.
      Australian Abbos would be a good place to start, then back home to positive discrimination..

  8. sharon says:

    Please don’t think I’m a nutter but I’m starting to wonder about the 2012 Olympics especially after coming across a YouTube video which unscrambles the logo.
    I was shocked to see that the shapes are in fact clearly letters that spell out the word: ‘ZiON’. I have tried to make another word out of the letters that makes any sense and I simply can’t. I know that the shapes are supposed to represent the numbers: ‘2012′ but they are more represenative of letters than number especially when you take the dot into account which forms the ‘i’ .
    Please check this out for yourself – it seems very clear!:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGZiDsgqAx4

    I would also point you to a famous british patriot song called Jerusalem. I’ve never really taken much notice of this other than to think it’s quite a nice song. But when I noticed this logo I began to think differently about the lyrics. I’ve pasted the lyrics below so you can see what I mean (or not). Am I going nuts or is there anything in this? (I just seem to be questioning everything nowadays).

    Jerusalem song/lyrics:-

    And did those feet in ancient time
    Walk upon England’s mountains green
    And was the holy lamb of God
    On England’s pleasant pastures seen
    And did the countenance divine
    Shine forth upon our clouded hills
    And was Jerusalem builded here
    Among those dark Satanic mills
    Bring me my bow of burning gold
    Bring me my arrows of desire
    Bring me my spears o’clouds unfold
    Bring me my chariot of fire
    I will not cease from mental fight
    Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand
    ‘Til we have built Jerusalem
    In England’s green and pleasant land
    ‘Til we have built Jerusalem
    In England’s green and pleasant land

    Let me know what you think.
    Regards
    Sharon

    sharon
    04/21 08:28 Sorry, last comment (just for clarity). I appreciate that the logo can also be read as 2012 (the year of the olympics) but then why is there a dot for the ‘i’ within the logo? And besides which don’t you think it’s interesting that even the numbers: ‘2012′ can be translated into ‘ZiON’ by turning the ‘2′ 45 degrees to make an ‘N’ (the ‘2′ can easily be a ‘Z’). Anyway, please check the links and you’ll see more clearly what I’m getting at.
    It maybe just a coincidence but I’d be interested to know what you think.

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    • glenn says:

      Hi Sharon,

      You’re not going mad it says zion. The Olympics on one level is a vehicle for turning public cash into Freemason cash. We fund a massive project for which Freemason contractors charge what they want, they just help themselves to our money and it’s a bottomless pit.

      Take a look at the national lottery hand sign. The shape of the hand is the Satanic hand sign with middle two fingers closed. The little eyes in the middle of the hand are both number sixes and the hand and forefinger shape make the third for 666. This just tells the lottery has been an illuminati project from the beginning, despite the sham of tendering to run it !

      When the illuminati make sacrifice they choose the best as they are making an offering. It isn’t done to offer some loser as sacrifice, if they blow up the Olympics as I think they will, i expect them to target top athletes.

      Jerusalem in Englands green and pleasant land. Yes we’ve been taken over by Zionists. The Queen, Blair, Brown, Cameron, they’re all in on it ! Take a look at the British Israel movement http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Israelism

      • sharon says:

        Thanks Glenn,
        It’s nice to know one is retaining ones’ sanity. In fact I’m starting to think that very few of us are sane and the vast majority are insane. When I used to live in LA there were many so called ‘nutters’ around who would spout things like: “You’re all doomed”. It’s funny looking back because now I think they actually knew what was going on and I didn’t.
        Thanks also for the link – very interesting.

        • glenn says:

          Here’s a link that shows a little more about the relationship between the Windsors, Freemasons, satanism and the third world war the mad b*****ds want.

          http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2000/temple_mount_2743.html

        • glenn says:

          My favorite quotes from this come from Lambert Dolphin, a physicist involved with the new Temple project:

          ” Some things are clear, sinful man cannot approach a holy God without a suitable sacrifice “.

          Then from Lord Northampton who is responsible for the building of the third Temple for the York Right Freemasons when speaking of the two lost tribes:

          ” That was all predicted, that one would go to Hyperborea, the land of the North, and one would go across the sea, and so I think that America and England got the two lost tribes; and that is why they then, in a very intellectual Jewish way, started to run the world ! ”

          Blood sacrifice and a long running plan to run the world, just about says it all !

          glenn

    • FrogDog says:

      One of the links on tpuc.org is to a site called King Arthur’s legacy. On this site it describes how the ancestors of Britain include some if not all of the ‘Ten Tribes of Israel’. Over a long period these people arrived in Britain, see http://kingarthurslegacy.com/history.html#histalbyne

      A bit later the other ‘Two Tribes of Judah’ turned up.

      Sooo, you see, many of us British could be descended from these ‘Twelve Tribes of Israel’……could in fact be descended from the Israelis.

      No wonder the zionists like our country so much…. this green and pleasant land…..

    • Revolution Harry says:

      Sharon, as Glenn said you’re on the right track. You may be interested in this link:

      http://www.scribd.com/doc/6078610/London-Zion-2012-Book

  9. Rob says:

    hi John,
    Just at the moment I don’t think I can add anything, or even suggest anything. In fact my main reason for replying is just to let you know you’re speaking to an empty space. Mind you, I read this yesterday, I’m a little surprised that there hasn’t been any comments.
    I don’t know what we’re going to do. First time in 54yrs that I can honestly say I…

    Anyway, ‘Forever and Ever Be Strong’ I used to know the ‘maori’ for that, and always struck me as something good. ~(it’s actually the motto of the Royal New Zealand Air Force 75 squadron)

    All the Best
    Rob Wearn

    • Rob says:

      bleedin’ marvellous, now I post something I discover it’s a computer glitch and you’ve had loadsa replies! Damn this new lager, I mean technology :)

  10. Tom Collins says:

    England may well be under totalitarian rule in the not too distant future but it would seem that the English aren’t quite ready to “revolt” !

    It was strange to hear Lord (Paddy) Ashdown the other day, say on live tv. (The Matthew Wright programme) that he expected “Civil Disorder” to take place here shortly.
    Does he know something we don’t know ?

    I can’t see the laid-back English taking to the streets until there is a catalyst, such as the police killing a well-known protestor, or the government etc. inflicting martial law or something similar. How long do we wait ?

    • English Patriot says:

      I understand that there are groups preparing for ac full scale revolt now. It has to and indeed will happen.

      • Mark Welsh says:

        And, unfortunately, if it DOES happen, we’re walking right into the trap!

        • sharon says:

          What do you mean Mark?

        • Wiggins says:

          Yep, spot on. Civil Contingencies Act = Martial Law (2002).

        • Mark Welsh says:

          See Wiggins reply Sharon. That’s what I mean.

  11. Tom Collins says:

    Sharon,

    The WHOLE idea is to force the proletariat to stage violence on the streets which the government will say is illegal and use the Terrorism Act probably to bring out the army to take control, the police having insufficient personnel.

    This could result in a Declaration of Martial Law, which would give this government overwhelming and sweeping powers to imprison ANYONE they thought was a risk (including you and me ! ) No charges, no trial, no legal representation etc. Think about it. Sounds unbelievable doesn’t it ? Let’s hope we never reach that stage and that we can get rid of this lot peacefully.

    • Colin Poulter says:

      Hello Tom Collins, might I point out some facts missed earlier.

      True the traitors in the LibLabCon would like an excuse to impose martial law with the loss of rights to which you refer, however;

      The police and military in this country also live in this country and have families in this country.

      The LibLabCon traitors cannot imprison the population or control the situation when the vast majority rebels.

      Above all if the majority indulged in non-violent, civil, total, NON-COOPERATION the LibLabCon traitors would be lost in a week.

      However it needs to be done quickly BEFORE the creation of the Euro police and military which would see foreign troops deployed on our streets whilst our own troops are marooned in the Amercian drug and oil keeping wars of Iraq and Afghanistan.

      There is more but this is the basic.

      regards,
      CP.

  12. Noel says:

    We may not have to worry about violence or anything else if this is the one they have finally unleashed on us, Mexican swine fever. The area in which it started fits in well . While we debate they make positive steps. Let’s hope it is just another scare this time, but I’m sure it won’t be long coming.

    • Noel says:

      Re:SWINE FLU PANDEMIC
      Editor�s note: On Friday, NPR reported that the deadly swine flu �combines genetic material from pigs, birds and humans in a way researchers have not seen before,� thus leading us to suspect it was cooked up in a lab.

      Swine flu panic is spreading in Mexico and soldiers are patrolling the streets after it was confirmed that human to human transmission is occurring and that the virus is a brand new strain which is seemingly affecting young, healthy people the worst. Questions about the source of the outbreak are also being asked after a public health official said that the virus was �cultured in a laboratory�.

      �This strain of swine influenza that�s been cultured in a laboratoryis something that�s not been seen anywhere actually in the United States and the world, so this is actually a new strain of influenza that�s been identified,� said Dr. John Carlo, Dallas Co. Medical Director (video clip here).

      Was this a slip-up or an admission that this new super-strain of swine influenza was deliberately cultured in a laboratory and released?

      Alarming reports are now filtering in about people catching the illness who have had no contact with pigs whatsoever. These include a man and his daughter in San Diego County, a 41-year-old woman in Imperial County and two teenagers in San Antonio, Texas. In fact, in all U.S. cases, the victims had no contact with any pigs.

      • sharon says:

        Yes, and the 1st two people identified as having the virus just happened to be looked at in 1) a naval base and 2) a lab. ie. they just happened to be there, they didn’t turn up there because they were worried and wanted to be checked out.

        • Noel says:

          Alan Johnson said there is enough drugs for 1in 2 but reports say they don’t work anyway. Gordon did warn us about an impending outbreak of something , I wonder how he knew. Reports coming out of Mexico about the spread and seriousness of the situation are apparently being played down by the media.

      • Crofty says:

        Its SWINE FLU and we are all going to DIE aghh! ha ha ha!

        Who in their right mind is going to fall for this tosh, my Lord they must think we are as thick as the logs they gurn out.

        Talk about fear mongering this just takes the biscuit. who needs Harry Hill when you have got the media and government.

        I’ve not stopped laughing at the comments on the Daily Mail and Times sites. its made my day. i just cant wait to see what they come up with next.

        • Noel says:

          An opinion, maybe your right , lets wait and see.

        • Mark Welsh says:

          Perhaps someone has already mentioned this possibility so if so I apologise. What if this “flu” was the biggest con and was being hyped to the hilt and death figures etc being hyped to allow further controls being put in place?

        • Crofty says:

          Remember the statement ‘it’s a good day to bury bad news.’ Well they have had a week to bury bad news so the real question is in my opinion Is, Just what is the bad news that they have buried over the last few days? Or what plan have they been working on while the BS Flu has been front-page news and wall-to-wall TV & radio news.

          Am open to suggestions as to what it could be and look forward to reading them.

        • Mark Welsh says:

          Crofty: Well one thing is for sure… the worlds’ eyes have been taken off the ball re the torture issue!!
          Secondly, if they DID wish to use this con for something then it could be martial law. Only could be. Don’t scoff at this suggestion. When a Congressman can stand up and say they were threatened it if they didn’t pass the initial TARP bill then anything is possible.

        • Crofty says:

          Am with you on the martial law ticket once we are at level 6 who knows and our troupes will go along with, as they will think they are doing it for the good of the nation. Not realizing the bigger picture and when they do find out they will be removed in a night of the long knives scenario. I pray to god am wrong to.
          As for the torture issue it looks like Condoleezza Rice is carring that can for G W. on that one, not that i have any pitty for her.

  13. DforDemocracy says:

    I agree with you Sharon, it is important that whatever happens, we MUST NOT descend into violence ( at least not at this stage of the game). This is exactly what the “Elite” want us to do, whether by design or by coercion. The Americans are right now being set up to take direct action against their government to restore their constitution, but they could be walking into a trap. Also keep in mind that Americans have (for the moment) a right to bear arms against enemies foreign and domestic, we do not.

    The only way we can defeat these criminals in positions of power is for the people to wake up to their lies, and to peacefully stop conforming. PERIOD.

    Peace

    • Mark Welsh says:

      I gotta say I love this idea of the Americans “having a right” to bear arms against an enemy (in their constitution) and we have “no right” to fight an enemy!

      Just really think of how bizarre a situation that is. Our enemy does not give us the “right” to fight them!

      Let’s see now. Taliban turn to George Bush in October 2001 and say “sure we’ll hand over Bin Laden…just show us the evidence he did it”.

      Bush says “Hand him over or else… I don’t NEED evidence”

      Taliban don’t hand Bin Laden over.

      Bush doesn’t get Congressional approval for declaring war on Afghanistan (nor Iraq). While, as an aside, even today the USA has never charged Bin Laden for the attacks on 9/11 (isn’t that simply bizarre now while we have murdered millions and our media and government still play the Bin Laden/Al Qaeda ticket).

      But can you imagine Afghanistan or Iraq turning to America and saying “According to our Constitution, America has no “right” to attack and invade us”.

      “Damn!” Says Bush and calls the whole thing off then toddles off and explains to his masters that Iraq and Afghanistan have documents written by them (the enemy) which strictly forbids the USA from attacking them!!

      Just hilarious don’t you think?

  14. No no non non nyet nyet. We are not the Tolpuddle Martyrs. Time has moved on. Ignore those bozo’s above who propose to take violence to the streets. We are better informed these days thanks to the internet.

    The thing we all hate is the restraint that unemployment and poverty puts on our short lives. These restraints are created by the commercial system. The commercial system drives the political system. It should be pristinely apparent that we do not ever chose to confront armed policemen and soldiers when we can simply remove our capital from their system and by a brief abstinence bring their filthy greed to an end.

    All western economies rely on consumer spending. Divert just a small part of it to barter and mutual aid amongst ourselves and the western economy collapses. We really need to get together and talk. We are in control of the situation – we just don’t know it.

    • glenn says:

      keep talking !

    • sharon says:

      I agree, but what you propose requires an awakening of the masses. I don’t know about you but I despair when I look/speak to the average citizen. Actually I’ve tried to explain things to intelligent people and I end up feeling hugely frustrated because they don’t get it either. Having said that I have managed to wake up a fair few, just not enough.

      • Excuse the long delay in responding to your posts Glenn and Sharon.

        I don’t have the answers – that’s the unpredictability of Revolution. We can never be entirely confident it will take us directly to where we want to go. We just keep fighting for it and eventually the burden of constant struggle becomes second nature to us and paradise dawns.

        We have to arrive at a condition that characterised the Chinese, at least until quite recently. Their social contract was “the Emperor rules justly the people obey; the Emperor rules unjustly the people rebel.” That is completely adequate for this entire planet. You can forget about Democracy – it only works in villages and we will, if we are wise, restrict its application accordingly.

        Historically, revolutions have always been unpredictable, at least since a group of traitors took over the money in England in a supposedly Glorious one in 1688. The subsequent Revolutions in America and France are the same. They all failed in so far as popular aspirations are concerned because Revolutions never end. Once the Founding Fathers or Napoleon or whoever cease their corrective input, the whole thing is surreptitiously hijacked. Constitutional amendments flourish and the old rich man / poor man dichotomy is resurrected.

        So I believe we are talking about a process not an event. It will take time to truly educate our children; to show them our real history; to pay of the national debts and recover the political management from the moneymen; to reassert a natural balance in life where all human endeavour is equally valued not just our profit-making activities; to wean the weaker members of our race off employment into looking after themselves. These are all things that will take half a century to entrench. The time required enables us to give good notice to those of a contrary disposition – the control freaks and believers in violence – that their ways are intolerable will no longer be accepted.

  15. John cooper says:

    If you want to get rid of these people in government and stop all corruption lets stop electing these crooks who are always there they never go away and start sending the general public to do a term in government.They can selected on a jury service basis because if it is good enough to convict a person of a crime it is good enough for government,i am certain there is more than enough people with enough common sense to make decsions on how to run the country,it would stop all the corruption these people stay in westminster to long.

    • glenn says:

      I would be happy to see the butcher, baker and candlestick maker in parliament than the current traitors.

      glenn

      • sharon says:

        Most definitely!

  16. Alex says:

    Allowing our emotions to be stirred up into a senseless fervor towards notions of violent rebellion – Oh, good work! No wonder we’re screwed.
    In doing so you will (AGAIN) be giving the politicians and the media (obviously directed by a clandestine, unseen hand) all the justification they need to hike the control and intimidation of the population up to the next level.
    Violence begets violence, and the more energy you give to fighting against something, the more power you give it over you.
    Moreover, talking will get you nowhere either.

    WAKE UP !!!

    Peaceful non-co-operation is the only choice.
    Ah, but for that, you pathetic, whingeing muppets would actually have to sacrifice something in your world – you would have to change the way you live; but you’d rather fight than actually take responsibility for yourselves and the fact that you are directly supporting and sustaining the situation through your compliance in paying taxes, and participating in the monetary system that your controllers themselves designed to enslave you.
    “Fight to the death”?
    Let’s be clear about this: when it comes down to the wire YOUR LIFE MEANS NOTHING TO YOUR MASTERS. YOU ARE LOWER THAN SLAVES. Such comments serve only to justify your manipulation, oppression and enslavement at the hands of an incredibly adept and attentive minority of global, power hungry sociopaths.
    While you’ve been watching TV, shopping and masturbating in whatever way takes the fancy of your perverse minds, they have been compounding and perfecting the implementation of their knowledge and understanding of control which has been quietly and patiently gained over millenia.
    When you realize what it is you’re up against, you will see that all of this has only been possible because of your submissive participation with, and ultimately AS, one simple thing – YOUR OWN MIND. YOUR MIND IS THEIR WEAPON AGAINST YOU!
    YOU CANNOT THINK YOUR WAY OUT OF THIS SITUATION.
    THERE IS NO HOLISTIC ‘SOLUTION’.
    Ask yourselves, and, if you can, be absolutely, brutally self-honest – How much of the luxury, comfort and apparent ’security’ of your world are you really prepared to give up FOREVER in order to bring about a change in the world as a whole?
    I’m know that the absolute honest answer is ‘not much – if anything’, because you have no idea how to survive without these things. Deep down you know you are terrified of taking absolute responsibility for yourself – each one individually, because in order to come together AS ONE in any way that will actually stand, EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US must first stand alone.
    Why?
    Because, as much as human beings cry and protest and point the finger of blame at ‘them’ or whoever may be responsible for what has been allowed to happen to this world, the bare truth is this:
    YOU ARE DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT HAS HAPPENED, WHAT IS HAPPENING AND WHAT WILL CONTINUE TO HAPPEN TO THIS WORLD AND TO THIS PLANET THROUGH YOUR PARTICIPATION WITHIN AND AS THE ULTIMATE SYSTEM OF CONTROL – YOUR MIND – CONSCIOUSNESS.
    THIS CONSISTS OF YOUR THOUGHTS, YOUR FEELINGS AND YOUR EMOTIONS, SUCH THAT THE MOMENT YOU ALLOW YOURSELF TO BECOME EMOTIONAL ABOUT ANYTHING, THEY HAVE WON.
    NO NEW AGE NOTIONS OF PEACE AND LOVE WILL MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE TO THIS WORLD.
    TRUE UNCONDITIONAL LOVE HAS NEVER YET EXISTED IN THIS WORLD. IT IS UNKNOWN TO US, AND ISN’T THAT WHAT WE FEAR MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE – THE UNKNOWN?
    So, better the devil you know . . .
    As things stand right now, we are slaves because we have allowed accepted, given permission and even asked, even BEGGED, for our own enslavement. We only got what we ordered, so how can any of us really complain?
    STAND UP FROM WITHIN YOURSELF, open your real eyes, acknowledge your fear and look into the mirror which is the world around you. Realize that you have created this world as a manifested expression of everything of you that you have not accepted as you, either through intentional thoughts words and actions which were motivated by your emotional reaction to previous thoughts, feelings and emotions stored within you as memories, or through your unwitting participation in the personality that has been allowed to manifest and take the place of your knowledge of WHO YOU REALLY ARE.
    WHO YOU ARE IS LIFE.
    YOU ARE LIFE EXPRESSING ITSELF.
    YOU ARE IN NO WAY SEPARATE FROM YOUR WORLD – YOU HAVE SIMPLY ALLOWED YOURSELF TO BE-LIE-VE THAT YOU ARE. YOU HAVE BOUGHT INTO THE MOST EASILY ACCESSIBLE, MOST SUGAR-COATED COMFORTABLE ‘IDEA’ AVAILABLE. A CHOCOLATE COATED SNARE.
    So, for anyone who has the courage to stand up and unlock the truth within them and allow it to become you AS ALL OF EXISTENCE – ALL AS ONE AS EQUAL, here are the keys: http://www.desteni.co.za
    Or you can continue f*cking around with half measures, cowering in fear of your own unknown potential, and I’ll catch you on the flip-side.

    Bon appetit, bon courage et bonne route.

    Enjoy.

    • wr0ngs0cks says:

      I think we all instinctively know this. We’ve just been taught all our lives to ignore and/or fear our instincts for various erroneous reasons. I’ve only recently been exposed to information about the financial con and other social control theories and am resolved to excerised my newly remembered inherent right and duty as a responsible and capable member of the human species to do my own research; to learn; to discover truth; to share; to grow; to be consious when i make decisions regarding my action or inaction. I will regard this last as one of my greatest acheivements.

      I’m inclined to think that the best way I – we – can serve and further the human species is to expand our minds and test our abilities to the very limits. Over the last couple of hundred years with more and more people being educated, we as a species have advanced exponentially but still only relatively few lucky people are educated/trained to the edge of current human thinking/ability. Can you imagine what we could acheive if we all put our heads together to work towards a goal?! It’d be the difference between using a calculator and a network of massive super computers, surely?

      If I were a greedy, power needing person in a position of control, that realisation would scare the hell out of me. If everyone were free to take responsibility for themselves and contribute whatever THEY felt was necessary to society, I wouldn’t be needed. It doesn’t seem outside the realm of possibility that some few unfulfilled souls with no faith in their own potential would seek to stunt that of other humans in order to maintain their position. Real info is going to be hard to come by, however. I have plenty of work ahead of me.

      I honestly believe that our minds and bodies will not allow us to continue this way forever. They WANT to grow, and no amount of social manipulation will hold them up for long. We are obviously still figuring out the vehicle of change but I notice that there are 34,000 people registered on this site alone. As long as we keep sharing information with each other we WILL get there.

      Peace & Love to All

      • Alex says:

        wr0ngs0cks – I suggest you actually read the post before responding.
        Better yet – follow the link provided and discover for yourself exactly what the mind – consciousness – really is (and how to spell the word!). Albert Einstein made it clear with the simple realization that a problem cannot be solved by the same level of consciousness that created it. In the context of the world as a whole this means that your suggested apparent solutions are nothing of the sort.
        The education SYSTEM was created by the same power hungry elite that created the health SYSTEM, monetary SYSTEM, that CREATED the religious institutions of the world, including the nauseatingly naive, if not deliberately self-blinded ‘New Age’ movement which creates people who have the temerity and utter lack of awareness to say things like “Peace & Love to All” when they have no idea what either of these things really are.
        Furthermore, there are NO rights and duties inherent to human beings. These are CON-CEPTS – created by people who think they know what is ‘right’ for the entire human race. In this way ‘right’ and ‘wrong’, ‘good’ and ‘evil’ are also concepts. These dualities underpin the whole state of separation that exists within this world and within each and every human being. They are tools that communicate directly with the human mind consciousness system, in order to separate you from yourself, and separate every human being from each other. As such our experience has been reduced to monochrome.
        Life is not black and white.
        Education and knowledge have NOTHING to do with awareness whatsoever, and technology is controlled by the same elite that manipulated our dependance upon every other system in this world. In fact, the education system seeks to create conformity – there is no freedom to be found here.
        EVERY HUMAN BEING IN EXISTENCE ALREADY HAS EVERYTHING THEY NEED TO MANIFEST HEAVEN ON EARTH.
        The ONLY thing you can trust is your intuition within and as your human physical body.
        The mind is a system; the body is the physical vehicle CREATED for the mind to physically manifest thoughts, feelings and emotions within and as this world.
        The only way to stop the continuation of this separation is to stop the mind – completely.
        You must be able to walk in the world where NOTHING ‘moves’ you – you are absolutely stable, still and silent in every moment, with every breath, then you direct you in full awareness as all as one as equal as LIFE.
        Now, follow the link and READ THE DAMN MATERIAL !

        • wr0ngs0cks says:

          OK. Intersting. Duly acknowledged and will action asap. There is an awful lot to look at as I don’t intend to confine myself to the opinions of any one individual or group so it may take me a while – have you seen the internet lately!

          My apologies if i have offended in any way, either by my fledgling personal philosophy or crimes against grammar. I hope you don’t mind too much me pointing out that you seem to be rather angry for someone who claims to be intimately aquainted with the intricacies of peace and love. By way of explaination the sign off was simply an expression of my wish that you find yourself in an environment where you can feel fulfilled, if that requires you to find utter stillness then please take it as such. I would also like to distance myself from any accusation of ‘New Age-ity’. Science has been my religion up to this point in my life and it is from this position that I begin to explore the more complex questions of our reality (or otherwise!)

          Your reply has raised a few questions for me. I would appreciate your time in sharing your opinion on this one.

          Firstly, there are basically two explainations for our existence as we know it: This is a purely physical universe, Chaos Theory rules and we have evolved by chance in the natural way (my preferred theory thus far,) OR; some form of sentience created it. One assumes there would be a reason for it doing so, and there may be some preferred outcome which one assumes it would try to influence in some way. Either way, we find ourselves in this playground with the facilities and the desire to explore it. It sounds to me that you are suggesting that we don’t. If we are merely a collection of cells floating through space, it doesn’t make the blindest bit of difference what we get up to. If there is a ‘plan’ (highly simplified analogy, I know) that requires us to be still, unmoved and unquestioning then why would we have been given curiousity? Are we to consider that some sort of unhealthy drive or sin? Why would I feel joy at learning? If some other ‘being(s)’ wishes to influence me why would that being give rewards such as happiness when I am moved – when I connect with my environment and other beings around me – if it’s requirement is that I be unmoved? Have I miss-read you entirely? I understand that an element of stillness and stability is essential in making sense of what’s around us but I find it very hard to believe that any directed sentience could ever have meant for ‘life’ to be static.

          I wonder if perhaps peoples view point on this kind of thing would depend on whether or not they WANT to be a part of the physical universe. If you do you live, you move, you love, grow and contribute to it’s continuance . If you don’t you stop (I suppose it depends on how shit a life you’re having) and since it takes an awful lot to overcome the survival drive it’s easier if you have some hope of continuance in an ethereal form. Ah. i think I’ve just found my new theory on religion. Feel free to poke holes, however!

          Have fun

          [Mutually inoffensive salutation]

  17. Tom Collins says:

    I believe that ALEX may be confusing the metaphysical with the “daily grind”.

    I see a physical world controlled by The Elite and a very few “minds” understanding, or trying to understand, the metaphysical way of life.

    I believe that THEY are controlling almost everything we see, hear or do by very clever manipulation of the media and the political and economical control of the masses.

    If you are in a swamp, you stop struggling !

    You look around for HELP, a branch, a hand, A SAVIOUR !

    So, what is next ? If it is rejection of the present position then THEY must be told it is NOT acceptable. If THEY won’t go voluntarily, THEY must be forced. The question is – HOW ?

  18. Biloxi says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMq2N6h3zUk

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70OLNzoIv1k&feature=related

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oX6rZ5qGq3c&feature=related

    Body, mind, spirit – or, as OUR MOST ANCIENT HUMAN FAMILY DID TEACH US, THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO … cultivate the inner/outer and then we can expect “balance.” Enjoy the series of ZangSenFengtaichiquan AND HOW DO WE GET TO BE A MAESTRO?

    Practice, practice, practice …

    “… On the subject of Einstein and God, Friedrich Durrenmatt once said, ‘Einstein used to speak of God so often that I almost looked upon him as a disguised theologian.’ …

    “… with another event which took place in 1929 in Berlin, told to me by Max Jammer in a recent letter. It was the occasion when Yehudi Menuhin, the great Jewish violinist, gave a recital at a concert on Beethoven, Bach and Brahms, by the Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra conducted by Bruno Walter ….. ‘Jetzt weiss ich, dass es einen Gott im Himmel gibt’ — ‘Now I know that there is a God in heaven.’

    “… cosmic intelligence, early in his life Einstein came to refer to God …

    by Thomas Torrance

  19. Tom Collins says:

    Have you not noticed that as soon as one fear goes away, another seems to come along to take its place ! ?

    We had SARS, FOOT AND MOUTH, BIRD ‘FLU. The constant fear of terrorism, now we have the financial meltdown, not ignoring our wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

    “THEY” surely must be running out of ideas of how to frighten us ?

    What about saying that, apart from the dreaded Global Warming, “THEY” think that Australia is sinking and Kaola Bears will soon be extinct !.

    How people sleep at night I don’t know !

    If it wasn’t so deadly serious, it could be a Brian Rix farce.

    • glenn says:

      I haven’t actually noticed that as I died of BSE nine years ago !

      glenn

  20. Revolution Harry says:

    John, I notice you link to the British Constitution Group’s declaration which includes the following:

    To acknowledge Royal Assent to be the exclusive authority of Her Majesty, representing the sovereignty of the people.

    I think Glenn described ‘Her Majesty’ as the ‘area boss of the Serpent Religion’ on another thread. In all of my research it seems quite clear that the Windsors are key players in the agenda. How do you square that with asking us to do the above?

    We certainly need to find common ground from which to resist and defeat this collection of Zionists, Communists, Fascists and Luciferians intent on creating their New World Order but I can’t quite see how any sort of allegiance to the Queen fits in.

    • The Editor says:

      Harry,

      The point we are making at the British Constitution Group is that our constitution gives us all the protections we need.

      We are keen that people separate in their minds the institution of the monarchy from the monarch. If we have a corrupt or corrupted monarch, that’s a problem, and we need to get rid of them. But I don’t think we need to get rid of the monarchy, although, as I’ve said elsewhere, I don’t care personally whether we live in a constitutional monarchy or a constitutional republic. The constitution is the key, because it gives us the protections we need as I say.

      So, for the line you mention above, look at it closely – “To acknowledge Royal Assent to be the exclusive authority of Her Majesty, representing the sovereignty of the people.”

      When the institution of the monarchy works, the monarch recognises that under the Coronation Oath, he/she swore to protect the sovereignty of the PEOPLE. We are where British sovereignty lies – not with Parliament, and not with the Queen.

      Royal Assent is not a rubber stamp exercise is the key point we are making here. It is a constitutional role which is central to good governance. And when we have a monarch who does not do that job correctly, we have a problem.

      But we have redress in the Magna Carta. That’s what we are asking people to get behind. We can defeat this criminal rabble, both in Parliament and in Buckingham Palace, lawfully and peacefully. We are asking you to join us in doing that.

      • The Constitution empowers parliament not the people. Are you guys comfortable with that?

        • The Editor says:

          Not true. That’s the lie that Jack Straw is having everyone in government repeat in the hope people will believe it.

        • Mark Welsh says:

          Roger, if that WERE to be true (which it cannot be) there would be a bloody revolution. For the deception would be so clear when you have MPs who everyone in this country is led to believe act on their constituents’ behalf. If that is so then it is a clear contradiction is it not that parliament itself is sovereign. It therefore is saying parliament is an effective dictatorship.

          THAT would not go down too well in a so called free democracy now would it?

    • johnmorton says:

      Harry

      Mike said it pretty clearly already, but for the sake of clarity, speaking for myself only, I am a staunch Republican. I want to see the whole job lot of these inbred criminals purged from our national life permanently.

      That said, this is not a very practical solution for the UK with our history and institutions so configured. It is a statement of fact to say that such a change in our institutions could only come about through violent revolution, and I do not and cannot support such a thing.

      We must continue to work within the framework of our existing laws and constitution to restore good governance to this country, and my strong sense is that we are not going to achieve that without forcing our existing monarch to abdicate in favour of one who is prepared to take their coronation oath seriously.

      But, like all such things in history, great changes do not happen by themselves, they only happen by mobilizing sufficient numbers of totally committed individuals around the right ideas for change.

      This is our mission. Join us.

      • glenn says:

        William IV passed a law forbidding any Saxe Coburg to take the throne; arguably this was broken when Victoria married Albert Saxe Coburg, but definitely broken when Edward the seventh took the throne. Add this to the sedition of signing the Euro treaties, add this to not defending the Protestant religion as promised in the coronation oath, and you can see that the present monarchy are as bent as nine bob notes, not to mention practicing Satanists !

        There is not even the smallest chance the Windsors as they’ve decided to call themselves are the rightful and lawful incumbents to the throne. This is treason against whoever that person is !

        glenn

        • Crush The Talmudic Zionist Serpent says:

          Thieves and liars often change their names!

          Proud to be English, but the Royal Family are nothing but a collective of parasitical vermin clinging onto their elitist feudalistic order. When you add Freemasonry and Satanism and the fact that the Queen’s economic advisor is the Rothschild family into the equation it gets beyond the joke.

        • glenn says:

          Here’s an interesting site for Royal watchers !

          http://www.throneout.com/comments.asp?STORY_ID=108

          glenn.

        • glenn says:

          click the link for ‘Royal scandal, what we can and can’t tell you’

        • Revolution Harry says:

          Thanks all for clearing that up for me. I am actually quite relieved because I enjoy visiting this site and I’m keen to assist you in your efforts.

          Glenn, what caused William IV to pass such a law?

        • glenn says:

          I’ve no definite answer for that, but he would have known they were predatory vampires, perhaps that had something to do with it ?

        • cheesy says:

          I had a look a”t throne out” and their links and found this:

          ” The UK Republican Movement
          Great stuff. Lots of important backers too, like Clare Raynor, Mike Mansfield QC, and Tony Banks MP – our favourite member of Parliament after Ken Livingstone. ”

          God save the Queen and me – from this bunch of scroats! I think I’ll be sticking with her majesty !

      • I don’t know what rights of the people that you have discovered Mr Editor but they are unknown to me, unless you speak of the right to carry arms, which is about the only worthwhile Constitutional right Britons enjoy and which has been so set about with legislative restrictions that it is no longer a right.

        What has Jack Straw got to do with it?

        Our Constitutional arrangements are in a group of parliamentary Acts at the time of the Dutch occupation and thereafter. If you like I’ll research the authorities and provide a list for discussion.

        If it is UKColumn’s position that the Constitutional provisions are satisfactory, we have nothing to protest about. We elect who we chose and petition the Monarch when we discover abuse, precisely as has been our position for the last few centuries.

        You had better instruct me on this subject, I am completely in the dark.

        • The Editor says:

          I don’t have time to do that here – that’s what the British Constitution Group is all about, and there are people there much better qualified to comment in any case. So come to the conference.

          The Constitution is not just made up of Acts enacted at the time of the Dutch occupation, although the Bill of Rights is clearly a core part of it. It should also be noted that the Constitution is mostly Common Law, with Statue Law counterparts. So, since in the UK, Common Law still trumps Statute, any attempt by the Government to repeal sections of the Bill of Rights, for example, is nonsense.

          We are saying that the Constitution provisions are satisfactory when the Constitution is taken as a whole, and that includes Magna Carta. The current Government also knows this which is why they have entasked Jack Straw to systematically undermine it.

          The issue is that we as a people have chosen to feel powerless against the creeping monster that is the NWO. We’re not powerless, but we have to be engaged and organised. The Constitution gives us that focus for organisation, and the power to act.

          Anyway, for background, I recommend this: http://www.camrecon.demon.co.uk/contents.htm

        • glenn says:

          I’ve had a look at your link; and with the greatest respect to the Author, the whole thing depends on having an honest Monarch. If party MP’s were replaced by independents this leaves the choice of Cabinet Ministers up to the Monarch, who is one of the biggest criminals in world history !

          I’m all for the defense of the constitution but neither Monarch, Lords or commons are going to do the job as they know which side their bread is buttered. They’ve all got to go. As far as defense of the constitution is concerned, it should be in the hands of individually elected constitutional law experts who direct the peace officers in their duties.

          As for cabinet I would like twelve ministers and a prime minister, each individually elected, with elections four months apart, but with a one year gap for the prime post !

          The election of M.P’s as area representatives could be as usual, but the choice of cabinet ministers would be separate and in the hands of the public. Then we would really choose what kind of education we want for our children by voting for the individual we think is best placed to arrange it . We could then choose the best person to deliver health care to the nation and so on until we have the dream team we deserve with the country’s finest in every position ! A council of elected Elders if you like !

        • The Editor says:

          Glenn:

          Its not the responsibility of the Monarch or Parliament to be honest.

          Its OUR responsibility to KEEP them honest.

          One way to do that might be as you suggest, but I doubt it would make for stable government, or allow us to get anything done.

          I don’t think that your suggestions would be necessary in any case, if people take their responsibility for their own lives, and their own governance, seriously. That sense of self determination and responsibility is the key thing missing from the equation today, not honesty in government.

        • Excuse me – this reply is likely to be placed above the comment to which it refers, which is the editor’s note which on my computer appears below. Whoops.

          I have to tell you that I believe the website you directed me to is not fully informed of the situation. I admit I have only looked through the Brief Summary at Page5.html. The entire thing is written in such an abstruse and mystical way as to defy comprehension. Why not redraft it in today’s English so we can all understand it?

          However if you are reluctant to do that, could you at least direct me to the executive summary or perhaps be so gracious as to reproduce the argument here on this page. I should be much obliged.

        • The Editor says:

          Roger,

          We are not involved with that website, and so have no control over the style. It was written by the late Wing Commander Leonard Young, and so is not up for redrafting in any case.

          I’m sorry, but I don’t have time to lay out the argument here. The paper goes to print on Monday, and that’s my priority, along with a list as long as my arm of upgrades and updates to this website, cpexposed.com, thebcgroup.org.uk etc. The latter is where the argument will be reproduced in detail, in due course, and in any case, is fairly well covered by the declaration.

        • glenn says:

          To Editor,

          I believe it is the responsibility of the Monarch and Parliament to be honest, I’m sure if I dug into their various oaths it would say as much. If it doesn’t then it should !

          You don’t say why it wouldn’t make for stable government or why we wouldn’t get anything done ? I can see many ways in which efficiency would be advantaged, especially in public services in which we currently pay for far more than we get. Largely because the electorate could choose the best person for a ministerial job e.g. Edward de Bono at Education. The timing of the elections to these positions would also allow full public scrutiny of all manifestos proposed and examination of the characters proposing them. Under the present system we’re under no promise that the front bench we are electing will be in those jobs more than five minutes.

          Taking personal responsibility for our own lives and governance is only part of the story; do you mean we should declare ourselves Freemen on the land ?

        • The Editor says:

          Glenn,

          Are you just here to troll? This isn’t the first time you’ve tried to put words into people’s mouths. I meant what I said, no more, no less.

          It doesn’t matter who does the job, so long as they have half a brain, and so long as the general population is prepared to take an active responsibility for their governance, and be prepared to do what it takes to oust idiots. Policy should actively come from the population, not be imposed upon it. Assessment of government action relative to that policy requires the active involvement of everyone. Its our failure to do these things which allows the corruption to creep in.

        • glenn says:

          How can you possibly have the idea i’m just here to troll ? I’ve asked what I consider to be legitimate questions, but you think i’m trying to put words in your mouth !

          No, I’ve re read my last post and I’m convinced it’s an entirely reasonable suggestion for a talking point, if you think it’s a crap idea you could simply explain why , but no, name calling !

          If you haven’t got time to discuss it now you could just say so. You have no grounds whatever for calling me a troll because I disagree with you on an issue, I really did want to hear your opinion on the Freeman issue, but if you don’t want to give one well O.K. !

        • glenn says:

          Again to Editor:

          On the B.C website you urge people into lawful rebellion, is this being a freeman on the land ? If you urge people to do it you should explain what it is !

        • glenn says:

          To Editor:

          ” This isn’t the first time you’ve tried to put words into other peoples mouths “.

          You’ve launched quite an attack, will you explain these words ?

        • The Editor says:

          OK. Apologies if I misunderstood.

          Lawful Rebellion is what it says – the right to rebel lawfully. Since it is a lawful right, there’s no need for violence.

          Yes, the Freemen on the Land folks use declaration of Lawful Rebellion as a step in excluding themselves from the world of commerce and Statute, but that’s not our aim as an organisation.

          The Constitution as a whole guarantees certain protections against bad government. When those in government are not doing their job correctly, we have the right to petition the Monarch for redress. If the Monarch does not provide redress within 40 days – possibly, for example, by dissolving Parliament and sending them all out for re-election, we have the right under Magna Carta 1215 to declare Lawful Rebellion and refuse to co-operate with pretty much anything our “government” imposes on us. It is, therefore, a form of peaceful non co-operation which happens to have an historical context and an official title.

          Of course, there are some people who will say that Magna Carta 1215 has no relevance in Law today. Let them debate that till Hell comes knocking on their door – we aren’t waiting around.

          We are using Lawful Rebellion specifically, and more importantly the Constitution taken as a whole, as a point for common cause among diverse organisations.

          We shall have at least one million people declare Lawful Rebellion en-mass. And while the cancerous criminal slime in this country is reeling from that, we will be supporting independent candidates in every constituency at the next election, and providing practical support and encouragement to our members and member groups. We shall destroy the three main parties, and the power that is behind them. We have to do this, or we’re dead. That’s how I see it.

        • glenn says:

          Thank You !

        • glenn says:

          To Editor:

          I wonder if you could help clear something up. I know you are a totally non violent group, but if you feel able to comment on my understanding of a Protestant’s right to bear arms being enshrined in the constitution. Is it so by your own understanding ?

          I am aware whatever you say can’t be taken as legal advice ,but I’m confused when it seems a statute says no guns, but seemingly the constitution says have guns, and it seems Common Law says there is no offense in having a gun and only wrongful use of the gun is against the law.

          I wouldn’t entertain the idea of owning a gun until I’d heard from the appropriate authority that my interpretation is correct, in that the constitution and common law take precedence over statute, but i believe the constitution allows Protestants to own guns because the writers knew that our freedoms have been under continual attack, mainly through the church of Rome and their allies through the ages, and I believe they also knew we would have to defend ourselves again.

          I hope your plan to use the law and constitution to defeat the traitors and the parasites that walk the halls of power is successful.

      • Mark Welsh says:

        Couldn’t agree more with that one John. I happen to share your staunchly republican views.

  21. Tom Collins says:

    Just to add fuel to the flames, I see that the EU have now INSTRUCTED US to include parts of SHARIA Law into our laws !.

    So, could we soon be hanging homosexuals and stoning a few of the WAGS ?

    The more desperate their position, the more NuLabour and their cohorts , scratch, or flail, around for distractions.

    I believe that this Labour Government has crossed the line from innocence to guilt and someone should, perhaps, start issuing summonses !!

    I’m sure that there are plenty of witnesses who would give evidence ! Line up !

    • sharon says:

      Tom,
      I don’t think Labour were ever innocent.
      And I can’t help thinking that articles like this (Sharia law being introduced in EU/Britain) are intended to wind us up and increase the possibility that we will turn on the muslims. That would be a mistake; they’re not our enemy – the state is! If we aim our anger at the ethnic minorities we’ll lose.

      • glenn says:

        You’ve sussed ‘em Sharon !

  22. glenn says:

    Has anybody come across these foundationforfuture characters before, they smell remarkably similar to C.P.

    http://www.foundationforfuture.org/index.php?q=en/node/47/menu_id=116

    glenn

  23. sharon says:

    At the risk of everybody shouting me down, I just wanted to run something by you all regarding Europe. I am not a supporter of the EU by any stretch of the imagination but I am aware that there is so much disinformtion out there and so one has to at least attempt to look at things logically. Now I think we are agreed that the biggest perpetrators of injustice and colonialism are the UK and the US. These two countries seem to be singing off the same hymn sheet and are not necessarily in line with the rest of Europe. Do you think that it may be possible that we are being coerced into thinking that the EU is evil and part of the mission of the elites to create 4 unions. Or, to put it another way, do you think it is possilbe that Europe is against the NWO agenda of the UK and the US? The reason I ask the question, or ask you to consider the possibility is that, as I understand it, the Germans have twice indicted Rumsfeld for war crimes and seem to be anti-GM; in France Kissinger is wanted for questioning; and Spain are currently investigating Israel’s former defense minister and others for killing civilians in Gaza. In addition Poland’s view on WWII does not seem to follow the official line of the current Nazis. Also Sarkozi called Obama a grovelling lightweight and Obama’s national securtiy advisor admitted he takes daily orders from Kissinger. Then there was the G20 sqabbles between France/Germany and US/UK. Please don’t think this post is in any way supportive of joining the EU, I’m just wondering if we really know who our enemies are in terms of countries (not elites, I think we can all agree on that) and whether some countries follow the elites agenda more than others. Could it be we are walking into a trap?
    Food for thought perhaps?

    • glenn says:

      I think there is resistance at all levels in all countries. All over Europe people are very pissed off at having their countries stolen and there is going to be a hell of a backlash just as soon as the bullied realise they are the vast majority, and the bullies are very few.

      I was strongly pro European up to the same point where Thatcher drew the line, we had free trade and travel without dictatorship, i’d like it back that way. I’m sure there are others that thought like me, but if it’s all in or all out, I’m all out.

      There will be any number of ex pro Europeans that are surprised to find out the EU is the cover for a Jesuit/Masonic/Satanic coup de tat of all the European countries at once !

      But on the budget, did anybody notice if the cheap rate for six months car tax has changed ? to encourage us to be green the low rate has been sixty six pounds for six months for some time now !

      • John Hurst says:

        glenn,
        The issue of the right to possess arms is covered in John Bingleys presentations on the constutition, although his answer on the subject at the Stoke on Trent presentation was, as he himself has conceded,not one of his better ones.

        Albert Burgess, with respect, did not got it right in his address to the Stoke on Trent conference. He seems to be of the opinion that the law relating to treason is sacrosanct but the law relating to arms can be changed though disuse. The technical term for this is “desuetude” and it is not part of the common law.

        The right to possess defensive arms is in fact alive and well in the UK, but few people know of it and fewer still (about 200,000 individuals) overtly exercise it.

        Everyone has the common law entitlement to claim the benefit of duress of circumstances as justification for any unlawful act except treason or murder in order to protect life, liberty or property. That is what it is about.

        Duress is the basis of lawfull rebellion against infringements of liberty.

        Regards, John H.

    • johnmorton says:

      The enemy is GLOBALIZATION. The EU is just a symptom, or perhaps a vector, in the political realization of the destruction of nation states.

      The UK has never been truly sovereign, having always been a colony of the City of London financial octopus.

      It is nonsensical to think in terms of nations, since the system we are fighting does not and never has recognized them in the first place!

      • Crush The Talmudic Zionist Serpent says:

        We are only scratching the surface here people.

        Getting out of the EU is a good step but. unless we understand and deal with the banking system and who controls it most of the problems will remain. If you control the world’s money supply then you control the world, its as simple and diabolical as that. The Rothschild family and their minions control the world’s money supply. Lincoln and Kennedy tried to switch the issue and control of money away from the bankers and into the government’s hands. They both had their brains blown out!!! The Federal Reserve Bank in America and The Bank of England – as are lots of other countries banks – are well and truly in the hands of the Rothschilds.

        “The bank hath benefit of interest on all moneys which it creates out of nothing.”
        William Paterson, founder of the Bank of England in 1694

        “Let me issue and control a nation’s money and I care not who writes the laws.”
        Mayer Amschel Rothschild (1744-1812), founder of the House of Rothschild.

        “The few who understand the system will either be so interested in its profits or be so dependent upon its favours that there will be no opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that capital derives from the system, will bear its burdens without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests.”
        The Rothschild brothers of London writing to associates in New York, 1863

        “Banking was conceived in iniquity and was born in sin. The bankers own the earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create money, and with the flick of the pen they will create enough deposits to buy it back again. However, take it away from them, and all the great fortunes like mine will disappear and they ought to disappear, for this would be a happier and better world to live in. But, if you wish to remain the slaves of bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, let them continue to create money.”
        Sir Josiah Stamp, Director of the Bank of England (appointed 1928). Reputed to be the 2nd wealthiest man in England at that time.

        “The powers of financial capitalism had a far-reaching plan, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole…
        Their secret is that they have annexed from governments, monarchies, and republics the power to create the world’s money…”
        Prof. Carroll Quigley

        I URGE EVERYONE WHO HASN’T WATCHED THE MONEY MASTERS TO WATCH IT!!! – it’s 3 1/2 half hours long.

        The Money Masters – How International Bankers Gained Control of America.

        If anybody wants a copy I would be very happy to send them out. If people don’t want to give their full address etc. I fully understand and would be perfectly happy to post copies to the UK Column address or The British Constitution Group.

        The City of (Baby)London is a separate sovereign state. When this country had The British Empire, over 80% of it were Crown Colonies. Crown Colonies belonged to The City of (Baby)London and none of the wealth from these colonies went to tthe government of Britain but into the coffers of the Rothschilds and Sasoons etc. The Rothschilds are estimated to be worth 100 Trillion Dollars and counting! There is more than enough money and wealth on this planet to feed, clothe and house every person on it. But unfortunately the racist supremacist false Jew Talmudic Zionist Black Magicians of The Synagogue of Satan wouldn’t do decent, honest and wholesome things. These are words that do not appear in the dictionaries of evil and nefarious pondlife who worship Baal, Mammon, Moloch and Lucifer.

        In 1923 Count Richard Coudenhove-Kalergi wrote a book entitled Pan-Europa that advocated a United States of Europe. From his autobiography:-

        “At the beginning of 1924, we received a call from Baron Louis de Rothschild; one of his friends, Max Warburg from Hamburg, had read my book and wanted to get to know us. To my great surprise, Warburg spontaneously offered us 60,000 gold marks, to tide the movement over for its first three years …. Max Warburg, who was one of the most distinguished and wisest men that I have ever come into contact with, had a principle of financing these movements. He remained sincerely interested in Pan-Europe for his entire life. Max Warburg arranged his 1925 trip to the United States to introduce me to Paul Warburg and financier Bernard Baruch.”

        Excellent article – Count Richard Nicolaus Coudenhove Kalergi – The Racist and Supremacist Roots
        of the Ideology behind the European Union
        .

        I think from this moment foward the Rothschilds wanted to disband their British Empire and thought the way forward for world domination centred on each continent having a union – starting with Europe – that would be eventually absorbed into a world union with a global currency, government, army, bank and relgion etc.

        We also need to stop thinking about the false left and right wing political paradigm. There is no left and right there is only good and bad right and wrong. For example most people would assume the hideous philosophies of Fascism and National Socialism as being right wing political ideologies. They couldn’tbe more wrong. Fascism and National Socialism – using the conventional means of judging left and right wing – couldn’t be more left wing if they tried. They are both Collectivist ideologies that preach the worship of the State and are both variants of authoritarian Socialism. Benito ‘Mr Potato Head’ Mussolini was a Marxist most of his life and his 1919 Fascist manifesto shows this influence. Read this next quote:-

        “We are socialists, we are enemies of today’s capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions.”

        One may say that this quote is easily posted from Marx. Isn’t it? They would be wrong. This quote was taken from a speech given by Adolf Hitler in May 1, 1927. People associate Hitler and the Nazis with Eugencis. However, the idea of Eugenics was being championed by the famous writers and Fabian Socialists George Bernard Shaw and H.G. Wells 30 years before Hitler came into power!!!

        • Peter1945 says:

          Well done, I agree….It is about time someone spelt it out to the masses.

        • Noel says:

          Yes they are very much the same yet both oppose each other and neither is fair to humanity. So as long as decent people protest and they continue fighting , Communist /Nazis, neither can win. All we must do is fight the moral destruction and corruption that both sides bring. Referring people as, the masses seems such a fascist statement.

        • Peter1945 says:

          I am no fascist, it just seemed a convenient word, I was not intending to be offensive. However, that how the powers that be see us!

    • cheesy says:

      I am so anti -EU it is unbelievable! I will not have a good word said about it.
      The EU is Communitarian. China has never been Communist – it continues to be a Communitarian country.
      Europe will eventually be like China – a disgusting slave state, a robotic, hellish, feudalist nightmare with no individuality or freedom – unless you pay for it, and even then it will be monitored and controlled so you don’t get too carried away.
      Common Purpose and set-ups like it, are about enabling the spread of Communitarianism throughout Britain, and everywhere else. The EU and Communitarianism is about the monitoring and micro managing of every aspect of our lives, purely for the benefit of a small, wicked elite.
      The elected politicians in the EU have absolutely no power, the EU Commisioners are a bunch of mega-cronies who are appointed (by who? we don’t really know do we?) and are the ones who actually make all the decisions, and who rule us!
      The whole EU system is fraudulent, fascist, bureaucratic beyond belief, and we HAVE TO GET OUT OF IT, soon!
      The EU perpetuates the metal image in King Nebukadneser’s dream which is just another analogy for the pyramid structure. Christ is the stone that destroys it and brings it down, by insisting that all men are equal, in the eyes of God. This is why the elite have decided Christianity has to go, and why the church has been infiltrated by satanists.
      This is an interesting talk:

      http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3853656682661756084

  24. Noel says:

    Re Sharon’s Comment
    I have thought along those lines, and it is quite logical, especially when we see headlines that the EU commission /authorities were saying that Britain is too heavily involved in surveillance ,cameras etc and that it was a violation of human rights, which we all agree it is. I thought they are not as bad as we think or is it just a ploy We know that the so called elite are good at deception. What benefit would it be to the Elite if Britain was out of the EU, we should look at it from every angle. Fascists against communist.

    • sharon says:

      I agree, and of course anything that makes it to the mainstream media is suspect anyway. I did hear a few years ago that Murdoch was putting pressure on Blair not to sign up further with the EU???
      Anyway I certainly agree with John that it is globalisation that’s the enemy.

      • glenn says:

        Globalisation, the illegal formation of the EU, the seperation of Britain into regions, it’s all the same thing. To talk about one is not to deny the other !

    • johnmorton says:

      Britain is the centre of the disease, and we are simply the petri dish in which these bastard criminals try their evil social policies on first.

      What is happening in UK right now is the blueprint for the fascist New World Order.

      Since we are the centre, and the United States the #1 target, it is incumbent on US, to defeat this evil at source.

      • glenn says:

        Yes it is !

      • Revolution Harry says:

        I agree.

      • glenn says:

        You could break that down further and say city and town and village !

        I see you’ve set a stage target of a million members in lawful rebellion, I remember the anti Iraq war demo with a million marchers, but they got ignored by those who must be obeyed. If each of those marchers had paid as little as one pound each into a pot that’s a million pounds a week to spend on publicity and Barristers and whatever else is needed to turn the tide on these murdering vermin.

        Has the B.C. group ever considered giving the people the opportunity to construct such a fund by administering it. The use of the law can cost a fortune that probably non of us can afford, but collectively we can afford everything we need, without any individual hardship. Perhaps something like a small direct debit or credit card deduction ? I’m always skint but five pounds a month wouldn’t kill me and this all is going to need funding !

        • glenn says:

          Some more rant:

          We just seem to keep getting the tactics wrong, by we I mean all people of all the groups that are fighting branches of the nwo. Those million marchers in London all had expenses on the day. A cheap day to , from and in London for me is a hundred pounds ! If that was anything like average, that’s one hundred million quid on train fares and junk food ! That would have funded a national daily paper that tells the truth ! Or a T.V. station ! Our resources are not well used at present, can we change that ?

        • The Editor says:

          So join the British Constitution Group. We’re asking for contributions of between £1 and £10 per month.

          Become a first point of contact – i.e. set up your own local group by getting others to join as well. The money will be going into supporting the local groups, printing costs, transport costs. We will come to you to hold events if you build a group of a sensible size.

          We want to build this up as a network of groups, all run independently, with support from us and from other local groups. We will have national events like the conferences, and national campaigns where groups work together, but in general, this is about giving the local groups what they need to do their work.

        • glenn says:

          Seems like a reasonable idea, I’ll come to the next meeting and if you’ve no one else in Derby better placed, I’ll give the first point of contact a go from there !

          Can you get a contributions link up on you header ? I’m not suggesting you charge for the forum, but David Icke’s site users pay three pounds a month each, which pays for the site and his work.

        • The Editor says:

          If you want to join, click on the “Join” button on the main page.

          Why wait? Are you up for this or not? There’s no time now to faff around. Its time to put up or shut up. I don’t mean this in a rude way, but that’s the reality of the situation.

          I question whether there is anything more worthwhile at the present moment than getting actively involved.

          Think about it for five minutes or so, and then just do it.

        • glenn says:

          I’ve been actively involved for a long time, just not like this !
          If you’re sure you are up for the scrap I’ll join then !

        • glenn says:

          To Editor and John.

          O.K I’ve joined, but I’ll have to say that the pledge to her Majesty for me is a pledge to a position and an unknown person. Elizabeth Windsor is not Lawful Queen.

          I understand the position that the title and person are not the same thing, and that it’s necessary to start from where we are, not from where we’d like to be, but I believe most strongly that as soon as you drop the Royal pledge you will be in a position to gain far more widespread support !

          Tying the ability to contribute to this site to a Royalist pledge is also costing you money !

          I hope you can accept this as constructive criticism.

  25. sharon says:

    BTW this swine flu is getting really interesting, it’s now at level 5. I wonder what they’re playing at because the consensus amongst the awakened people is that the virus was man made.

  26. Peter1945 says:

    I just copied and pasted this. It may or may not be nonsense but it is worth considering all views and opinions.

    Swine Flu Fiasco
    Archie Kalokerinos M.D.

    In 1976 I was working in the far north of Australia amongst Aborigines. I observed, in one community of only a few hundred people, when they were given the flu vaccine (probably the Victorian strain but this detail does not really matter because nobody outside a few selected individuals really knows what is in any particular batch), six men died suddenly soon afterwards. They were not all ‘old’. One was in his early twenties. A few weeks later, in another community I found that individuals with heart or potential heart problems or diabetes were particularly likely to drop dead soon after being given the vaccine.

    Obviously, there was a problem with some batches of the flu vaccine.

    A few months later I was in America. President Ford had been told by his health advisers that there was going to be a huge epidemic of ‘swine flu’, that this could kill may thousands and the only way to prevent this catastrophe was to vaccinate the entire population of America – every man woman and child – with a specific vaccine.

    So the vaccine was manufactured and the biggest vaccination campaign in history was begun. I was concerned because the vaccine could not be properly tested in a short period. None of the recipients would know anything about what they were being injected with and the chances were that many would die suddenly. Furthermore, it was extremely unlikely that an epidemic of swine flu would occur. So I spoke out. At first the newspapers got hold of what I said and headlined, ‘Australian Physician Call It Mass Murder’. Then I appeared on Kathy Crosby’s television program.

    Watching that was a man in New York who did not like a gentleman named Gambino the Mafia boss. Gambino was about 70 years old and had a history of heart problems. It was a simple matter to get someone to persuade Gambino to have the flu shot and Gambino obliged by dropping dead. The newspapers got it right when they stated, ‘Mafia Flu Jab Conspiracy’.

    People were dropping dead in the buildings where they received their shots. Others became paralyzed. The whole program ground to a halt.

    President Ford decided to settle the matter quickly. In front of the whole world, on television, he rolled up his sleeve and ‘had his shot’. I claimed at the time that he was given a ‘dud’ shot and I am certain that this was actually done. Then President Ford invited all the news media men and women who were milling around to line up and have their shots. Only one man volunteered and he happened to be the White House press secretary. All the others refused the invitation.

    There was not a single case of swine flu. There never was going to be an epidemic of swine flu. How was it that the world’s most powerful man with the world’s greatest department of health got it all so wrong? No one really knows the answer but what ever it is it is certainly not clean and tidy.

    Furthermore, as far as I know I was the only practicing doctor who spoke out against it and warned about almost certain consequences. How was it that a doctor with only basic qualifications and not even the possessor of American citizenship stood out alone? There was at least one researcher, Anthony Morris, who did try to speak out but he was at the time censored and censored very hard.

    This, therefore, is a classical example of how only one man got it right and everyone else got it wrong. This is an important consideration because, when the subject of vaccines is discussed the fact that the vast bulk of the medical establishment states that something is so it is not, in reality, necessarily so. If the establishment can get something so vast and important as the swine fiu vaccine campaign so wrong then it is logical to reason that they could also get a lot of other things wrong. At least it gives reasons to doubt what the establishment claims to be fact. If doctors and members of the general public considered this fewer errors would be made and fewer individuals would suffer unnecessarily.
    http://webpages.netlink.co.nz/~ias/swine.htm

    • Noel says:

      Sorry a duplicated comment

      Regard vaccine this has not really been discussed that much in the media yet, so this time is it going to depend on who gets treatment or not, as a vaccine is too late.

    • Mark Welsh says:

      Can I just add that Congressman Dr. Ron Paul ALSO spoke out against this in 1976.

  27. Noel says:

    Yes, very interesting articles tells us all that needs to be known and what we expected.

  28. sharon says:

    As you all probably know the backers of Israel are the ones behind most of the problems in the world so I’m hoping I’m not off message here. The point being that Israel have now “warned” Europe to back off with their criticism of Israel or they will face being frozen out by Israel. I don’t think we need to go into the war crimes committed by Israel and their other dastardly deeds which generally go unquestioned by the west, clearly raising concern as to why nobody dare criticise Israel’s actions, not enough has been made of this. However, some are now asking how come a small country like Israel can tell the Europeans what to do. Click, click click. Do you think they’ll make the connections?
    Seems to me they’re getting very cocky now. Either they no longer care what the world thinks or they’re getting worried. Not sure which.

    • glenn says:

      The attitude says a lot about the Zionist Israelis view of the worlds population as barely tolerable lesser beings called Goyim. The Rothschilds have funded Israel from the beginning so the world can be run from there once the evil Empire is completed: with new Solomon’s Temple for the Windsor bloodlone, Blair running Europe as crowned President and a single religion based on human sacrifice.

      While the Zionists control ours and the American governments, they have control of the bulk of the worlds nuclear weapons. Worst case scenario to them is that they have to blow the whole place up and stay in a bunker for a while till they emerge the only survivors. Unfortunately that would please many of them as it would represent the fulfillment of end times prophesy which plays a big part in the elite’s plans. They don’t care what the world thinks because they know the strength of their own position, and if they’re beaten militarily it would take nuclear war which is fine because that’s described in the book of revelations !

  29. Tom Collins says:

    We seem to have far too many “enemies” !!

    We have Israel, The EU, America, London Bankers etc.. The Catholic Church, The Illuminati, The Freemasons, The Trilateralists, The CFR, The Knight Templars, The Bilderbergers…… I don’t think we can fight them all. One at a time, maybe !

    I think we ought to get our act together, or we may be facing every direction at once.

    (I’m not forgetting GORDON ! )

    • Revolution Harry says:

      Tom, the enemy is one creature with many arms. What we need to work out is it’s weak spot.

      • Mark Welsh says:

        I honestly believe its weak spot will become apparent when we have over a million people in a country like the United Kingdom who are speaking truth to the world and making their voice heard.
        You don’t and can’t ignore something like that. The truth WILL prevail under such circumstances and many other countries will follow suit.
        THEY have no defence against truth and being exposed.

    • Colin P says:

      Hello TomCollins and Revolution Harry (That is one great monika),

      May I suggest that we do not have a lot of enemies, they are just a few people, under different names, appearing to be everywhere at once because they have use of many media outlets.

      Most people are good and want the best for everyone. 20% are anti social and of those only 2.5% are really dangerous. The anti social types specialise in making it appear the ‘everyone’ and ‘everything’ and ‘everywhere’ is the norm, it is not, it is only themselves lying about it.

      It is mainly that decent folk do not kick up a big enough stink to shout these specimens down.

      As to the ‘many arms’ and the ‘weak spot’ that is easy, the weak spot IS THE TRUTH !

      These anti social and evil types have to operate under cover of ‘darkness’ and try to keep all others in mystery. Shine the truth on exactly what they are and what they are trying to do and they crumble very quickly. Do not forget that they are the minority.

      They also use fear to its best advantage. By keeping people in fear it then keeps them confused and looking for someone to tell them what to do, the anti social types then supply the answer.

      David Icke calls it problem-reaction-solution, they cause the problem, the public reacts to demand a solution, and they provide a solution, but its not for everyones good !

      All decent people have to fear is fear itself AND ignorance of who is doing what.

      As one famous philosopher said; The first step in handling anything is learning to confront it . Do that and half the battle is over.

  30. Tom Collins says:

    Revolutionn Harry may well be correct – that our enemy has many arms.

    If this is true, then it seems obvious to me that we should start on the arms nearest home. So who would that be. Let’s get started on them first and when they’re down, we can then start on the next one. Sounds reasonable to me ?

    I suppose it;s the “Money Brigade”, e.g. The Bankers . Or is it Gordon, Dave and Nick ?

    I get confused sometimes – too many late nights.

  31. Crush The Talmudic Zionist Serpent says:

    The enemy is indeed one creature with many arms.

    It’s not the names of the groups and organisations that are the important part. Groups can just change names and re-organise etc. Its the names of the people involved in these groups that are important. A lot of these groups and organisations contain a large number of the same people.

    When you look at who controls the world’s banking systems, who is behind the global drug trade, who owns the world’s gold, silver and diamonds etc., who is behind societal breakdown, family breakdown, the ruthless promtion of homosexuality, most wars and revolutions etc., false flag terrorist attacks, the UN, EU, Marxism, Communism, Socialism, Communtarianism, National Socialism, Zionism, abortion, poronography, environmentalism (Malthusian depopulation) and a whole host of other things the same false-Jew Talmudic Zionist criminal maniac names and families keep popping up.

    If our government was a true democratic institution that served the people of this country rather than their masters in The City of London and Israel then it could straight for their jugular by taking the power to issue and control money away from the Mammon worshipping bankster gangsters and back to themselves where it should be. How is a country supposed to be free, democratic and in charge of its own affairs when it has to borrow money at interest from Satanic international fimanciers/usurers?

    ON 22nd December 1964 Captain Henry Kirby, M. P., called upon the House of Commons to support the Motion that:
    “The continued issue of all the means of exchange—be they coin, bank notes or credit largely passed on by cheque—by private firms as an interest-bearing debt against the public should cease forthwith; that the Sovereign power and duty of issuing money should be returned to the Crown, then be put into circulation free of all debt and interest obligations, as a public service, not as a private opportunity for profit and control for no tangible returns to the British people… so as to assure the State and Nation the benefits of that emission and relieve them of the immense and growing burdens of a parasitical National and private debt; and to make certain that control passes to the taxed and is taken out of the hands of the present hidden unlawful beneficiaries of taxation … this House calls upon Her Majesty’s Government to introduce the required legislation… to assure unprecedented prosperity with true sovereignty and liberty.”

    If our cowardly and contemptible bunch of politicians had supported Captain Kirby we would now have interest-free mortgages and virtually no taxation. But the Members of Parliament we vote for look after their own interests and faithfully serve the Satanic Bankers who are wrecking and ruining Britain.

    The next quote sounds so familiar:-
    “In the summer of 1931 a Labour Government suddenly sagged at the knees and fell dead. High Finance had killed it, as High Finance will kill the next Labour Government, and the next again unless the creation and withdrawal of money credit comes to be generally regarded as a State Service…”
    Taken from 1934 work on money and economic reform, by Thomas Johnstone, Lord Privy Seal of the 1931 Labour Cabinet and Secretary of State for Scotland.

    • sharon says:

      An excellent summary of the current state of affairs.
      Can I suggest that we all make the effort to contact as many radio and tv talk shows or any media where the public can call/write in. In each case we should pass on some info relating to what is really happening in the world. I know from experience that it usually means you get cut short or told you’re talking rubbish but if enough people do it on a regular basis I don’t think it will continue to be ignored in the same way for long. I have done this myself on a number of occasions and even though the presenter would not agree with me I know that out of the millions listening, some took it on board.
      I once rang radio 5 because they were discussing the economy and someone asked what is a central bank. No answer was forthcoming so I rang in and explained, I also told them to look at a sterling note where it states: for the governor and the COMPANY of the BofE and I even mentioned the fact that the BoE is owned by Rothschild and that the Fed falls under that. The response from the presenter was: “I don’t know where you get your info. from.” (in a ‘this person is deluded’ kind of tone) to which I responded I’ve just told you – look at a £20.00 note or even better why don’t you, the BBC, do your job and investigate this most important issue, which is fundamental to our wellbeing. The BBC may not have agreed with me but you can bet that many people listening that day either checked their sterling or considered it could be true. At the very least a seed of doubt would have been planted in many peoples minds, ready to come to the surface next time they hear something similar. Now, can you imagine if this sort of info was put across the airways on a more regular basis. I believe a lot of people would begin to think on it a bit more and some may even begin to do their own investigation. It’s the same principle that the establishment use: make the same point many times and the masses will start to believe it.

      • glenn says:

        I could use a one sheet hand out that is succinct and in plain English that we could copy and pass outside the web, that the recipient could copy and pass. Not one just on finance but a number covering several issues: health, energy, Zionism ………?

        I’m sure the skills and ability are right here today on this site ! One thousand A4 copies is about fifteen quid, a small price to educate that many people, searching for the right words each time hoping not to seem like a nutter is a bit hit and miss !

  32. Mark Welsh says:

    Tory, Labour, LibDem. ALL a sham. A theatre to make you believe you have a choice. You don’t. The difference between them is negligible and when it comes to the REAL BIG ISSUES, the country goes in the same direction WHOEVER gets power.

    Why? Here is why:

    Memorandum submitted by the Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards

    Complaint against Mr Kenneth Clarke

    1. Mrs Lynn Riley, of Chepstow, Monmouthshire, wrote on 28 February 1997 to a Member of the House, alleging that Mr Kenneth Clarke MP had failed to register `the free trip and accommodation he received from the Bilderberg Group … unlike Tony Blair who attended the same meeting’. She enclosed a letter from Mr Clarke dated 6 September 1995 in which he states that `my recollection is that I paid for my flight but that I was accommodated while I was there’. The Member passed the correspondence on to me.

    2. The Bilderberg Conference is an annual conference which was established in 1954 at the invitation of Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands at the Hotel de Bilderberg in Oosterbeck, the Netherlands. Its main founder was the Polish political philanthropist Joseph Retinger and its members include political leaders, statesmen, academics, businessmen, bankers, and union leaders from Western Europe and the NATO countries. They discuss the political, economic and military problems of Europe and the world. The conference in question was held in Greece in April 1993, at a time when Mr Clarke was Home Secretary.

    3. Had Mr Clarke not responded to Mrs Riley as he did, I would have held that there was no prima facie evidence to support the complaint.

    4. Mr Clarke repeated to me his recollection that he paid his own air fare but that his accommodation costs were met. He had since checked with the conference organisers who confirmed that it was in accordance with their policy at the time for participants to meet their own travel costs; and that although they no longer kept complete records, they thought that the accommodation had been paid for by sponsors unknown, organised by their Greek members.

    5. Mr Clarke subsequently explained that he and Mr Blair considered that they were attending the conference as representatives of the Government and the Opposition respectively, and stated that `I was quite confident that I was at the time meeting the rules applying to Ministers, and it did not occur to me that the new rules concerning registration could apply to this visit’.

    6. The conference took place shortly before the House approved, in June 1993, a number of detailed changes to the rules on registration and guidance which had been recommended by the former Select Committee on Members’ Interests towards the end of the previous Parliament. Before that date, Members were required to give details on their registration forms of `overseas visits relating to or arising out of membership of the House where the cost of any such visit has not been wholly borne by the Member or by public funds’. A guide to the new rules, published in September 1993, provided the following amplification: `Where only part of the costs was borne by an outside source (for example the accommodation but not the cost of travel) those details should be stated briefly’. The new rules, which applied for the first time to the Register of Members’ Interests published in January 1994, also contained a list of specific exemptions from the requirement to register overseas visits.

    7. As Mr Clarke correctly pointed out, neither he nor Mr Blair registered their attendance at the conference on their return. Mr Blair did so two years later in 1995, following a complaint to the former Select Committee that he had failed to register that visit, together with an earlier visit to Washington as a member of an All-Party Group. The Committee in their Report[1] acknowledged that certain aspects of the Rules had been the subject of widespread misapprehension and recommended that no further action should be taken in respect of the complaints made against Mr Blair.

    8. Mr Clarke’s recollection that he paid his own travel expenses is borne out by the conference organisers, and there is no reason to suppose that this was not the case. His accommodation expenses, on the other hand, do appear to have been met by his hosts. The Bilderberg Conference does not fall within a category which is exempt from registration and it follows that, in accordance with the rules both before and after June 1993, the partial benefit that he received ought to have been registered.

    9. I do however consider that any breach of the rules was of a relatively minor nature, and note that the former Select Committee concluded that no further action was needed in respect of Mr Blair’s delay in registering the same visit. I also accept that:

    (i) Mr Clarke saw himself as attending the conference as a representative of the Government, and had been careful to observe the requirement under Questions of Procedure for Ministers `to ensure that no undue influence was involved’;

    (ii) as, to the best of Mr Clarke’s knowledge, it was the conference organisers who had paid for his accommodation, the receipt of such a benefit could not realistically have been thought likely to influence his actions as a Member of Parliament.

    11 July 1997

    The PROBLEM is (and Clarke, Blair and every other MP knows it) is that:

    1. Bilderberg is CONSTANTLY referred to by all as a conference in which ALL attendees participate in a “private capacity” when, as you can see from this report on Parliamentary Hansards, they completely contradict such a statement by saying Blair and Clarke were attending as government and shadow government officials.
    THIS IS THEREFORE QUITE PLAINLY TREASON!

    2. The “Investigation” concentrated solely on the payment of expenses and took oversight to the much deeper issue which is that these two bar stewards attended a Global conference run and managed by Bankers whose goal is to destroy sovereignty of all nation states.

    Now once you get this in your head, you will finally accept that these two (and others) have committed treason. They have sold you and our country out to International bankers such as Rothschild and Rockefeller.

    In 2002 Rockefeller authored his autobiography “Memoirs” wherein, on page 405,” Mr. Rockefeller writes: “For more than a century ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents such as my encounter with Castro to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as “internationalists” and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure – one world, if you will. If that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.”

    And so it really just depends on how you decide to see this. If you just say “so what” then you get what’s coming to you.

    ALL 3 PARTIES ARE BOUGHT AND PAID FOR.

    • Peter1945 says:

      I would not trust some of the smaller parties either eg; UKIP, BNP or even the Greens, I suspect they all have the usual suspects controlling them behind the scenes…could be wrong however.

      • Mark Welsh says:

        Peter, I’d share your wariness of them for sure. However, I’d then also consider the massive propaganda against the likes of the BNP by the tri party lot and also consider that the BNP is not funded in any significant way by any Corporates as I understand it. I could be wrong and it could be very quietly but it doesn’t appear that way.

        UKIP meanwhile, strike me as just a little too “glossy”. Full of rhetoric.

        Neither one of them speaks of the fundamentals however which we all know. The treasonous 1972 government taking us into the EEC in the knowledge it was more than what we were led to believe. Further, they do not speak of the Bank of England and the printing of our very own government fiat currency.

        • Revolution Harry says:

          What makes me suspicious about the BNP is the fact that Nick Griffin’s father is a freemason as was his grandfather. It suits the agenda perfectly to have the main political resistance to gloablisation, immigration and the EU tarred with the brush of ‘racism’, ‘fascism’ and ‘extremism’ even if analysis of the party’s policies don’t necessarily bear that out. The attacks from the main parties is most likely reverse psychology designed to raise the BNP’s profile as part of the ‘chaos’ that’s planned involving Islamic immigrants when the Middle East eventually reaches boiling point.

          See near to the bottom of the page.

          http://www.northwalesmark.co.uk/news.html

      • glenn says:

        I wanted to know more about ukip about a year ago so I went to see my regional ukip rep in Northampton, I got straight to the point about things but very politely. He told me he was in the job to prevent anyone else getting it ! And there is nothing he can do, he is utterly useless ! I don’t know if he’s typical ?

  33. Noel says:

    As much as we would like to support the BCG and the Column, how can we know it has backing from the BNP.

    • The Editor says:

      Where on earth did this come from?

      I assume you mean “how can we know it has no backing from the BNP?”

      You can’t know, of course.

      All I can do is tell you categorically, that the UK Column and the British Constitution Group have no affiliation whatsoever with the BNP. It’s up to you to believe that or not.

      Having said that, I want to make it quite clear that that does not mean that you will never see us at a BNP meeting. Our role here is to present what we know to everyone, and organise a war.

      We have and will continue to present at BNP meetings, just as we have done at Muslim meetings, Jewish meetings and meetings from any and every other group, sub group, cause, charity, or corporation that has invited us to speak. We even speak to environmentalists, although there’s possibly no hope for them.

      We have a well defined enemy to fight. Everyone, from every background and every grouping is welcome to fight along side us, so long as they are aligned with our aims.

      We are working to kill off the disease in this country, for every single human being living here.

      I hope that makes the position clear.

      • Noel says:

        I just asked and followed on from a previous remark. Maybe you consider it not fair even to ask such a question. From your response you have made clear all that needs to be known. Good Luck to all those genuine truthseekers who post on this site.
        We can’t believe all that’s on the web, but I doubt this is far from the truth.
        http://www.whatnextjournal.co.uk/pages/Latest/BNP.html

    • Mark Welsh says:

      Noel, what would make you wish to support the BCGroup and the Column? While I’m pretty sure there is no funding coming from BNP (who are trying desperately to raise their own right now for the EU elections), even playing Devil’s Advocate and saying if there was, why would that deter you from supporting what you have considered to be worthy of your support?

      You know what I believe the trouble to be? (and I have it myself) That we who are looking for change and REAL change and are interested in the integrity of our government etc, have been so conditioned by the corruption and false politics over all these years that our trust in anyone is at an all time low.

      Personally, I support what these guys are doing 100% but if I were to ever find that their seeming integrity was seriously compromised, then end. Meanwhile, I don’t see this. I see strong opinions and some which I am not in entire agreement with. But that is simply the human condition. Individuality breeds differences. It is respect and acceptance of such differences along with compromise which is required.

      We are nowhere near that today with our deceptive tri party lot. These people have no further worth to us.

  34. Mark Welsh says:

    Have a look at this site: http://www.isgp.eu/organisations/Pilgrims_Society02.htm

    This society seems to be more interested in maintaining strong ties between the UK and the USA (which the EU may not appreciate). Meanwhile, perhaps part of this elite struggle is to marry all three together while ensuring the UK/USA remain the strongest entities within the combination? This would seem to fit somewhat with what we are seeing on the international stage right now wouldn’t it?

    I’m STILL wondering about the symbolism involved in Obama handing back the bust of Churchill which had been in the White House for decades. Also his bowing to the Saudi King but not to our Queen (so I believe).
    Meanwhile, I entirely comprehend his comment re Cameron being a lightweight (coming from the POTUS who needs a teleprompter everywhere he goes for every word he spits out while he continues to spend $millions protecting his birth certificate and personal data). The comment was basically saying thatCameron is not chosen by Bilderberg. Of course Ken Clarke would be and probably would have a say in “advising” Bilderberg re Cameron.

    There are oh so many intertwined societies. However, I hope noone minds me quoting from this site, the following which I find very interesting:

    Source(s): April 13, 1948, The Times, ‘Court Circular’: “The Princess Elizabeth, Duchess of Edinburgh, and the Duke of Edinburgh were present at The Pilgrims dinner…”; 2003, Anne Pimlott Baker, The Pilgrims of the United States – A centennial history’ (as patron she occasionally attended a Pilgrims dinner, which was often organized together with the English Speaking Union)

    Queen of England since 1953. Married to Prince Philip Mountbatten. The Queen has been, and might still be, a major stockholder in Rio Tinto and other large corporations. No official details have been released. March 29, 1984, The Times, ‘Israel’s expansion depresses Queen’: “During a lengthy briefing on a Jordan valley farm from Crown Prince Hassan, King Husain’s [a Cercle member and long-time beneficiary of CIA funds] younger brother, the Queen described as depressing a map detailing Israel’s ambitious plans for expanding Jewish settlements in the occupied West bank, conquered from Jordan during the 1967 war… the Queen spoke forthrightly about what she described as “the tragedy of the Palestinians” which she said had afflicted Jordan more than any other country… The Oxford-educated Crown Prince, who is Jordan’s expert on the settlement issue, explained in detail Israeli intentions to increase the number of Jews living on the territory won from Jordan to 1.4m by the year 2010, by which time the number of West Bank Arabs is expected to be only slighty more than 1.6m… The British monarch’s growing identification with the Palestinian cause during her Jordanian tour is thought certain to have serious repercussions for Britain’s already strained diplomatic relations with Israel.” The Mirror in an interview with Paul Burrell, June 11, 2002: “[Queen:] “Nobody, Paul has been as close to a member of my family as you have. There are powers at work in this country about which we have no knowledge.”… [Paul:] “She wanted me to make sure my wife Maria and children remained safe. It was not a threat, it was sound advice. She had my interests at heart…No-one had never warned me like that. It made me suddenly realise the magnitude of the situation. It was obviously much, much bigger than I had ever thought.” (The Queen and Paul Burrell in a 3-hour talk in November of 1997 at Buckinham Palace. Paul was the butler of Diana right up until her death on August 31, 1997)

    You may or may not also remember this quote by Philip (the so called “Prince”):
    In August 1988, Prince Philip said to the West German Deutsche Press Agentur: “In the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, in order to contribute something to solve overpopulation”.

    1995, Gerald James (former long time City banker with many highest level connections whose arms company was dismantled by the City-Intelligence services cabal), ‘In the Public Interest’, p. 128-129:

    “Stephen Dorril tells us that when, in July 1961, Cabinet Secretary Norman Brook failed to pass to the Prime Minister information about War Minister John Profumo’s affair with Christine Keeler (a friend of KGB officer Eugene Ivanov), ‘Harold Wilson stumbled on a crucial secret, namely the fact that the Cabinet Office, not the Prime Minister’s office, had overall control of the security service and, crucially, the overall flow of information’: putting the real power into the hands of permanent government rather than elected government… Ex-Deputy Chief of MI6, George Kennedy Young [whom Gerald James knew well], admitted that, when it comes keeping the Prime Minister informed, the Cabinet Secretary may conveniently fail to find an ‘opportune moment’ to pass the baton of power from permanent to elected government. Dorril and Ramsay quote another security source saying that the Home Secretary ‘hasn’t got a clue what is going on. If he comes around, you lock away any sensitive files and set up a display file specifically for him to look at’…

    Every week the Queen receives JIC [Joint Intelligence Committee] reports while our own ministers remain relatively in the dark. We are told that Her Majesty makes useful comments on these, and it may be that her comments are more useful than those that might be forthcoming from ministers, but I believe that many ordinary people, brainwashed by the tabloids into thinking that the purpose of the Royal Family is to offer entertainment along the lines of soap opera, would be surprised to learn about this system of disbursement of vital information to government…”

    Philip was supposedly hostile to Diana after she divorced Charles in 1996. Mohamed Al-Fayed claimed Prince Philip had ordered Diana’s murder who was killed in a car crash on August 31, 1997. Queen Elizabeth II said to Diana’s butler Paul Burrell in December 1997: “Nobody, Paul has been as close to a member of my family as you have… There are powers at work in this country about which we have no knowledge.” She advised him to be cautious and to lay low. Unlike his son, Charles, Philip supports genetically modified foods. On June 7, 2000, The Guardian quoted the Duke of Edinburgh as saying: “Do not let us forget we have been genetically modifying animals and plants ever since people started selective breeding.” Philip is known to be the head of the family; what he says, generally goes. He is still president emeritus of the WWF International.

    NOTE: “Permanent Government” rather than “Elected Government”.

    And could it be that we have some kind of division within the monarchy itself while old Phil takes the lead role as “Grand Master”?
    It has been said, for instance, that it was old Phil who demanded Charles to marry Diana. Meanwhile, was the Queen warning Burrell about members of her own family?

    • johnmorton says:

      The Nazi Roots of the House of Windsor

      by Scott Thompson
      Printed in The American Almanac, August 25, 1997.

      One of the biggest public relations hoaxes ever perpetrated by the British Crown, is that King Edward VIII, who abdicated the throne in 1938, due to his support for the Nazis, was a “black sheep,” an aberration in an otherwise unblemished Windsor line. Nothing could be further from the truth. The British monarchy, and the City of London’s leading Crown bankers, enthusiastically backed Hitler and the Nazis, bankrolled the Führer’s election, and did everything possible to build the Nazi war machine, for Britain’s planned geopolitical war between Germany and Russia.
      Support for Nazi-style genocide has always been at the heart of House of Windsor policy, and long after the abdication of Edward VIII, the Merry Windsors maintained their direct Nazi links.

      So, when Prince Philip, co-founder with Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands of the World Wildlife Fund (WWF), tells an interviewer that he hopes to be “reincarnated as a deadly virus” to help solve the “population problem,” he is just “doin’ what comes naturally” for any scion of the Anglo-Dutch oligarchy (see page 8 for more quotes from Prince Philip).

      To get beyond the soap opera stuff and truly understand the Windsors today, it is useful to start with Prince Philip. Not only was he trained in the Hitler Youth curriculum, but his German brothers-in-law, with whom he lived, all became high-ranking figures in the Nazi Party.

      Before his family was forced into exile, Prince Philip had been in line of succession to the Greek throne, established after a British-run coup against the son of King Ludwig of Bavaria, who became King Otto I of the Hellenes. Having dispatched King Otto in 1862, London ran a talent search for a successor, which resulted in the selection of Prince William, the son of the designated heir and nephew to the Danish king, Crown Prince Christian. In 1862, Prince William of the Danes was installed as King George I of Greece, and married a granddaughter of Czar Nicholas I in 1866. Prince Philip is a grandson of Queen Victoria, and he is related to most of the current and former crowned heads of Europe, including seven czars.

      The marriages of Prince Philip’s sisters definitely strengthened the German aristocratic ties. During 1931-1932, Philip’s four older sisters married as follows: Margarita to a Czech-Austrian prince named Gottfried von Hohenlohe-Langenburg, a great-grandson of England’s Queen Victoria; Theodora to Berthold, the margrave of Baden; Cecilia to Georg Donatus, grand duke of Hesse-by-Rhine, also a great-grandson of Queen Victoria; and, Sophie to Prince Christoph of Hesse.

      Three of Philip’s brothers-in-law were part of a group of German aristocrats who were Anglophile and pro-Nazi at the same time, and who remain a subversive force in Germany to this day.

      ——————————————————————————–

      Enter Prince Bernhard
      His Royal Highness Prince Bernhard, royal consort to Queen Juliana of the Netherlands and father of the current Queen Beatrix, co-founded and became the first head of the World Wildlife Fund (now the World Wide Fund for Nature) in October 1961. When the Lockheed scandal forced Prince Bernhard to resign from his most important public functions in 1971, he was replaced by Prince Philip. Prince Bernhard, like Prince Philip, whom he recruited to the eco-fascist cause, had strong roots in the Nazi movement.
      In fact, the whole House of Orange did: Queen Wilhelmina, mother of the future Queen Juliana, married a right-wing playboy who begged for money for Hitler; Juliana married an SS man (Prince Bernhard); and, Queen Juliana’s daughter Beatrix married a former member of Hitler Youth.

      Prince Bernhard first became interested in the Nazis in 1934, during his last year of study at the University of Berlin. He was recruited by a member of the Nazi intelligence services, but first worked openly in the motorized SS. Bernhard went to Paris to work for the firm IG Farben, which pioneered Nazi Economics Minister Hjalmar Schacht’s slave labor camp system by building concentration camps to convert coal into synthetic gasoline and rubber. Bernhard’s role was to conduct espionage on behalf of the SS. According to the April 5, 1976 issue of Newsweek, this role, as part of a special SS intelligence unit in IG Farbenindustrie, had been revealed in testimony at the Nuremberg trials.

      When Bernhard left the SS to marry the future Queen Juliana, he signed his letter of resignation to Adolf Hitler, “Heil Hitler!” William Hoffman writes in his book Queen Juliana:

      “Tensions [over the marriage] were not cooled when … Adolf Hitler forwarded his own congratulatory message. The newspaper Het Volk editorialized that `it would be better if the future Queen had found a consort in some democratic country rather than in the Third Reich.’|”

      This is the man who recruited Prince Philip to eco-facism, but Prince Philip’s Nazi roots had been laid much earlier.
      ——————————————————————————–

      Hitler Youth and Universal Fascism
      Through the influence of his sister Theodora, young Philip was sent to the German school near Lake Constantine that had been founded by Berthold’s father, Max von Baden, working through his longtime personal secretary, Kurt Hahn. During World War I, Prince Max von Baden had been chancellor, while the Oxford-trained Hahn first served as head of the Berlin Foreign Ministry’s intelligence desk, then as special adviser to Prince Max in the Versailles Treaty negotiations. Von Baden and Hahn set up a school in a wing of Schloss Salem, employing a combination of monasticism and the Nazis’ “strength-through-joy” system. At first a supporter of the Nazis, Hahn, who was part Jewish, soon got into trouble with the SS, and came to support the more centrist elements of the Nazi Party. What Hahn really had become is what Henry Kissinger’s friend, Michael Ledeen has termed a “universal fascist,” in the sense of Vladimir Jabotinsky, Count Coudenhove-Kalergi, the Strasser brothers, and other fascists whom the hard-core Nazis would have no dealings with.
      Although Hahn’s powerful connections permitted him to escape the concentration camps, he was forced to leave the school he founded in Germany before Philip’s arrival there, and established a new school in Scotland, called Gordonstoun. It would play a major role in rearing all the male children of Queen Elizabeth II and Philip. When Philip arrived at Hahn’s school in Schloss Salem, it was in control of the Hitler Youth and the Nazi Party, and the curriculum had become Nazi “race science.” Hahn became an adviser to the Foreign Office in London, urging policies of appeasement based upon appeals to the “centrist” Nazis.

      ——————————————————————————–

      Philip’s Relatives Work for the SS
      The husband of Philip’s sister Sophie, Prince Christoph, was embraced by the Nazis, who saw him as a channel to the appeasement faction in Britain epitomized by King Edward VIII. Joining the Nazi Party in 1933, by 1935 Prince Christoph was chief of the Forschungsamt (directorate of scientific research), a special intelligence operation run by Hermann Göring, and he was also Standartenführer (colonel) of the SS on Heinrich Himmler’s personal staff. The Forschungsamt used electronic intelligence-gathering methods to police the Nazi Party, while working with the Gestapo against the Catholic Church, the Jews, and labor organizations. When rumors of homosexuality spread against Capt. Ernst Roehm of the Stormtroopers, Himmler turned to the Forschungsamt’s eavesdroppers, and ordered the “Night of the Long Knives” as a result. The eldest of Prince Christoph and Sophie’s children was named Karl Adolf, after Hitler. Later, Prince Philip would promote his education.
      Prince Christoph’s brother, Philip of Hesse, married a daughter of the King of Italy, and became the official liaison between the Nazi and Fascist regimes.

      Four years after Prince Philip left Schloss Salem to attend Gordonstoun Academy in Scotland, on Nov. 16, 1937, Philip learned that his sister Cecilia and her husband Georg Donatus, hereditary grand duke of Hesse-by-Rhine, had crashed in one of Göring’s Junker aircraft on a trip to London for Georg’s brother’s wedding. According to the British magazine Private Eye, the funeral became a gathering point for leading Nazis and their appeasers. Prince Philip himself developed secretive ties with King Edward VIII, continuing after Edward was deposed in 1938.

      In fact, one of the central figures in the 1930s Nazi-British back-channel was Philip’s uncle and sponsor, Lord Louis Mountbatten (originally, Battenberg, a branch of the House of Hesse). Until he was forced to abdicate, King Edward VIII enjoyed the full backing of “Dickie” Mountbatten. Through much of World War II, secret channels of communication were maintained between the British royal family and their pro-Hitler cousins in Germany, by Lord Mountbatten, through his sister Louise, who was crown princess of pro-Nazi Sweden. Louise was Prince Philip’s aunt.

      Although Buckingham Palace’s rumor mill has tried to depict this wartime collaboration with the enemy as mere family correspondence, the channel apparently included messages from Prince Philip’s secret ally, the Duke of Windsor (the former Edward VIII). On Nov. 20, 1995, the Washington Times reported, based on recently discovered Portuguese Secret Service files first published in the London Observer, that the Duke of Windsor had been in close collaboration with the Nazis in Spain and Portugal to foment a revolution in wartime Britain, that would topple the Churchill government, depose his brother King George VI, and allow him to regain the throne, with Queen Wallis [Simpson, the American divorcée, for whom he abdicated the throne] at his side. Portuguese surveillance revealed that Walter Schellenberg, head of Gestapo counterintelligence, was one point of contact in this plot. After Schellenberg met with the Spanish ambassador to Portugal, Nicolás Franco, brother of fascist Gen. Francisco Franco, Ambassador Franco told a Portuguese diplomat: “The Duke of Windsor, free from the responsibilities of the war, in disagreement with English politicians, could be the man to put at the head of the Empire.”

      Whatever correspondence was hidden in Sophie and Prince Christoph’s Kronberg Castle, King George VI, in June 1945, felt compelled to dispatch the former MI-5 officer turned “Surveyor of the King’s Pictures,” Anthony Blunt, to gather up the correspondence. Queen Elizabeth II reportedly insisted that there be no interrogation of Blunt about his secret trip to the castle. Otherwise, it is notable that starting with an exchange between King George VI and President Eisenhower, the House of Windsor has been desperate to keep classified those documents from Kronberg Castle that fell into American Army hands, long beyond the normal length of time. Clearly, Prince Philip’s patron Lord Dickie Mountbatten, Mountbatten’s sister Crown Princess Louise, and Philip’s brother-in-law Prince Christoph of Hesse were not just exchanging Christmas greetings.

      • glenn says:

        Heil Philip !

      • Mark Welsh says:

        John, It’s stuff like this that needs to be relayed to our forces. They need to understand the sheer deception they go to fight under.
        No-one wants a bloody revolution but these guys are getting sent out as cannon fodder (yes I realise they always have) but it isn’t even for Queen and Country that they have always believed it to be.
        Many of them will never wish to accept this but for their own sakes they need to realise the truth in it all.

  35. Tom Collins says:

    I don’t want to get off track but one or two people have suggested that Islam is not our enemy.

    Well, if you remember what Gadaffi said that Islam will take over without guns or violence, merely by strength of numbers, this is very worrying.

    Barack Obama has said twice, in Europe, that TURKEY must be allowed to join the EU.
    What’s it got to do with him? Tukey has a population of around 70 million. They will ALL be entitled to come here if and when they join the EU. I think this island will sink, not only the land mass, but in paying out Benefits !!! etc. !!!

    We’ve got a LOT to worry about !

    • Mark Welsh says:

      Tom. No argument. The situation will not get any better under a labour< conservative or libdem government however. And yes what HAS Turkey and the EU got to do with Obama? :-)
      Well, Bilderberg (again) were a major party in setting up the EU model in the first place. Obama seems simply here to be the mouthpiece of his owners once more.

    • glenn says:

      I’ve just lived the last twenty eight years in close proximity to a large number of Muslims in Derby, not only do they not try and persuade me to convert to Islam, it’s near on impossible to get a word out of them on the subject !

      I have English friends in Turkey and they assure me the average Turk is distinctly anti Zionist. If Turks are allowed/encouraged to come here just go and shake hands, welcome them, then tell them about the nwo and Zionism in uk. Turks make good friends i’m told !

    • John Morton says:

      We are all missing the point here, the issue is not Turkey vs Israel or Muslims vs Christians.

      The issue is the MANIPULATION of CONFLICT, which lies at the heart of the VENETIAN IMPERIAL method, and always has.

      It is divide and rule that is our enemy.

      If we unite people around a common ecumenical principle, no matter what their religion, we can have a DIALOGUE OF CIVILIZATIONS, not a CLASH OF CIVILIZATIONS.

      We have to defeat the oligarchy in the realm of ideas where they operate to control us by means of our prejudices and fears.

      • Mark Welsh says:

        Spot on John!

      • glenn says:

        I think you must have missed my point John, Zionism isn’t Israel but it is the manipulation behind it. Wars seemingly based on nationality have to end, that means shaking hands with anyone presented to us as enemies by the manipulators and working together to defeat the Zionists. The buck stops with the Zionists by whatever name they go under, and nowhere else.

  36. Mark Welsh says:

    Off topic I understand an apologies but this being the most recent article and there not being specific Obama related articles, pardon me if I post here.
    You will all be aware of the Obama legitimacy issue for “POTUS”. Here’s something I just picked up and I appreciate it may not be bang up to date -

    OBAMA WATCH CENTRAL
    2nd U.S. soldier in Iraq challenges eligibility
    Says issue could decide if ‘we are a Constitutional Republic’

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    Posted: February 24, 2009
    8:30 pm Eastern

    By Bob Unruh
    © 2009 WorldNetDaily

    Another U.S. soldier on active duty in Iraq is joining a challenge to President Obama’s eligibility to be commander-in-chief, citing WND’s report on 1st Lt. Scott Easterling, who has agreed to be a plaintiff in a lawsuit over the issue, as his inspiration.

    “I was inspired by 1LT Easterling’s story and am writing you to inform you that I would like to be added as a plaintiff against Obama as well if you feel it would help your case,” said the soldier, identified for this report only as a reservist now on active duty in Iraq.

    His letter was directed to California attorney Orly Taitz who, along with her DefendOurFreedom.us Foundation, is working on a series of legal cases seeking to uncover Obama’s birth records and other documents that would reveal whether he meets the requirements of the U.S. Constitution.

    Easterling, who confirmed separately to WND that he is questioning Obama’s authority, wrote to Taitz that, “As an active-duty officer in the United States Army, I have grave concerns about the constitutional eligibility of Barack Hussein Obama to hold the office of president of the United States.”

    The second soldier wrote, “I am an Army reservist who was activated last August and am currently serving with a military police battalion in Camp Bucca, Iraq. I will be here until at least June 2009.”

    He continued, “When I enlisted last year I had to show my birth certificate, as well as my driver’s license, high school diploma, college transcripts, social security card; I also filled out loads of paperwork to include listing the names, addresses and phone numbers of my family members and had to answer any questions regarding foreign travel.

    Where’s the proof Barack Obama was born in the U.S. or that he fulfills the “natural-born American” clause in the Constitution? If you still want to see it, join more than 270,000 others and sign up now!

    “I think it is reasonable for Obama to prove his citizenship status thus certifying his eligibility. I too raised my right hand and swore an oath to defend the Constitution of the United States,” he told Taitz. “I believe the case you are filing could very well determine if we are in fact a Constitutional Republic or a nation of mob rule. I would be honored to be a part of your efforts.”

    Perhaps anticipating a wave of outrage from Obama supporters, he asked that he be given no “unnecessary publicity,” although his name eventually would become public when a case is filed.

    Taitz told WND she was making contingency plans that could include her travel to Iraq should a military case be brought against the soldiers who are speaking their minds about Obama.

    “I told him if there is any prosecution, he can get in touch with me. I would even fly to Iraq and work with the attorney there to provide his defense,” she told WND.

    She said undoubtedly a part of the defense would be a demand for documentation on Obama’s actual qualifications to serve as U.S. president.

    WND has reported on multiple legal challenges to Obama’s status as a “natural born citizen.” While representatives for Obama has called such claims “garbage,” the Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, states, “No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President.”

    It continues but I’ll abridge it to this.

  37. Mark Welsh says:

    Had to share this with you all.

    GORE DESTROYED! You will enjoy the ending I assure you! LOL

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNzBRiAyn8o&feature=player_embedded

    • glenn says:

      If we’re so ruined by pollution why don’t our governments just build these ?

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7Qs2gFlt-o&feature=related

      • Mark Welsh says:

        The thing is Glenn, MAGLEV technology has been around for decades. We could have been developing stuff like this and having it integrated within our systems for years but, again, the elites didn’t/don’t want the new technologies because their investment in the oil and gas is still so massive AND so profitable.
        What I believe they are attempting with the Climate Change bull is simply to have their old technologies of oil and gas etc replaced with the new technologies and financed, again, by all of us (Carbon Tax etc). If they don’t achieve this then it’s the end of their stranglehold on global society.

        • glenn says:

          That Maglev generator supplies 750,000 homes. We,ve got around twenty million homes in uk. Thirty such generators covers national domestic consumption with a little spare, but if we do this the energy barons go bust !

          Free electricity also means free car fuel, when free electricity is used to turn water into Brown’s gas (HHO) ! This and in car hydrogen storage has been suppressed until such a time as road pricing can be introduced. When they can’t collect at the pump they’ll charge us by the mile through micro chip tracking systems !

          The whole thing is a fraud and always has been !

        • Mark Welsh says:

          Glenn,

          I truly believe cutting the head of the snake (Central Bank control) would achieve our goals. What this country COULD be is incredible. If only the people would wake up and accept that we really have an enormous issue BUT we know the solution. We could re-educate, re-invest, re-industrialise and productionise this entire country and have approx zero unemployment, in no time.

        • glenn says:

          Mark,

          There are so many people looking at the nwo from so many different directions it has resulted in a mass of knowledge from diverse and specialist backgrounds coming together mainly on the net that needs sorting into categories and simplifying, just to make simple points to those not in the loop. follow the pyramid up and the bankers are the oil barons who are also the pharmaceutical giants who are also the manipulators of war. All points of attack on these people are equally valid.

          Perceived problem: Fuel running out and pollution. Solution: build Maglev generators ourselves at cost then enjoy virtually free, clean electricity ongoing.

          Problem: the monetary system doesn’t work (for us ). Solution: take back control of printing our own money !

          The list could go on but it all needs to be simplified for presentation to those great many people who know somethings wrong, but can’t put their fingers on what, because the only information reaching them is garbage designed to keep them ignorant !

          I know i can take them a column and that helps but you can’t beat simplicity in as few words as possible, even if it only tells people there is an alternative to the current fiasco !

          With the energy and creativity this country has it should be Utopian, but we are being confused,subdued and milked !

  38. Gerry says:

    You bunch of blinkered idiots!,open your eyes,do searches on the web and you will find info like this (http://www.obsessionthemovie.com/index.php or this http://www.thethirdjihad.com/ )on the danger of radical Islam to our western culture and free speech for all.After having watched these films, tell me, that there is no parallels to what is going on here.Of course it is only a matter of time before we are over run if we do nothing about the corrupt political system that has grown like a cancer in this beloved country of ours.As for the BNP,i applaud them for standing up, to challenge the corrupt political system we have at the moment,where the ENGLISH parliment has been hi-jacked by the SCOTS,and the only thing that motivates a politician is greed.And have you forgotten recent events in the news,where “Lord Ahmed” threatened to bring 10,000 muslims to protest at the screening in the house of lords of the film “Fitna”.Needless to say the COWARDS in the house of lords backed down and gave in to his BLACKMAIL.When is the BRITISH PEOPLE going to wake up and get behind the only political party in this country that will stop this ROT namely the BNP.

    • glenn says:

      There is a dangerous radical Islam but the bigger question is why do the masters bring them here ? I believe the answer is so they can set bombs off and tell us “Muslims did it” ! so they can implement part two of the civil contingencies act. Blaming Muslims is missing the point !

      I’m not ready to blame “the SCOTS”, there are bastards in all nationalities !

    • Mark Welsh says:

      Gerry, I AM a Scot! And to be so tunnel visioned and, dare I say it, stupidly ignorant to suggest it is the Scots, is just sickening.
      Was Edward Heath a Scot? Was John Major? Actually forget it. Idiocy such as that isn’t worth my time.
      Personally, I despise the current and the former PMs. I despise every lie, every deception, every arrogance and everything they stand for. For what do they stand for?

      Absolutely nothing! They are parasites.

  39. sharon says:

    Starting off your post with: “You bunch of blinkered idiots!,” led me to believe that although you were being unnecessarily rude you may have followed on with something that would enlighten us all. No such Luck!
    Use your logic. If the west continues to bomb and alienate the muslims what do you think they’re going to do? We would be exactly the same if it were happening to us.
    Even if what you say is true, frankly, given the choice between being ruled by the current lot of luciferians and the muslims I know who I’d pick (bearing in mind that 900 years ago the muslims took over Europe and treated us very well in comparison, not like the current imperialists who are responsible for millions of deaths, mostly those of women and children). Of couse we don’t want either, we want to rule ourselves and yes I agree that the people of this country should have been given a choice regarding immigration. But I’m getting a bit sick of the obvious maligning of the muslims and people like you who fall for it every time.

  40. sharon says:

    Alot of you may already be aware of the info below – information that should be on the front page of every newspaper with the consequence of all those in government being arrested for treason:-
    Many, if not all, British Government depts. are registered on Dun & Bradstreet as private companies/corporations. This includes the ministry of justice, social services, trade & industry, etc, etc. Every MP is listed with Dun & Bradstreet because they are directors of those companies. In fact the Labour Party were registered as Alistair Darling, MP on Dun & Bradstreet. It is also the case that every police station, court and council are also registered with Dun & Bradstreet. Your TV licences are being paid to Consignia Ltd which ceased trading in 2002?
    I hear you ask: “What the f**k is going on here?!”
    My understanding is that this is the only way they can administer their statute laws which are all based on contract law for which you need a company. ALL statute law requires a contract between 2 or more people and requires your consent,- you do this by stating that you ‘understand’ a word which carries far more weight than you imagine. If you do not consent the contract cannot exist. In law you are not a person, you ’have’ a person. Statutes apply to persons, they cannot apply directly to a man or a woman. They are able to do this by stating that you represent your birth certificate but if you do not consent and refuse to represent your birth certificate then legally there is nothing they can do, other than to ignore their own laws and if enough people look into this and take action then they won’t get away with it. Fact is we’ve been scammed into thinking they have power over us when actually they don’t (other than under common law which basically refers to murder or loss, ie. theft. In this system where they apply statute law there is no loss because money is counterfeit). Stating you understand is how you provide consent. Any notice you receive is in fact an offer and if a document states you ‘must’ do something, actually you are being given a choice. You as person do not exist in the legal world, only your birth certificate does.
    When you contact a government dept. you will be asked for your name, address and date of birth. This is called a ‘Joinder’ and forms part of the contract. Isn’t it amazing that they are doing this using contract law and we’re all falling for it when in fact each and every law (outside commom law) can be challenged using commercial law.
    Other interesting facts:-
    In latin the word ‘parliament’ means ‘talking lies’ (parlia = talking, ment = lies). The word ’statement’ means ’setting down lies’ (state = setting down, ment = lies).
    Question: What do John Major, Tony Blair and Margaret Thatcher have in common?
    Answer: They are all cousins.
    This absolutely stinks and should be challenged by one and all. The corporations have truly taken over everything including your person unless you are prepared to refuse to represent your person (ie. your birth certificate). Every thing is based on paper and nothing else, kind of like the monetary system. What a joke!
    Having read through my diatribe I thought I would just spell it out one more time (in case you didn’t pick up on it).
    ALL POLICE STATIONS, COURTS, COUNCILS AND MANY GOVERNMENT DEPTS ARE PRIVATE COMPANIES/CORPORATIONS AND ARE LISTED AS SUCH ON DUN & BRADSTREET.

    I assume this is happening in other countries as well, especially as the system in England was transferred to most other western countries many, many years ago.
    I think we may have found our way to fight back.
    Remember: They (police, courts, gov. depts., councils, etc.) are businesses and therefore their interests lie with the corporations (police, courts, gov depts., etc.).

    1st Maxim = consent makes the law.
    A summons = an invitation.
    A court = a corporation.

    • The Editor says:

      Sharon,

      Personally speaking, I am not convinced of most of this. I am willing to be – but so far, I haven’t seen the evidence, and just because lots of people are saying it, doesn’t make it so.

      Dun and Bradstreet is a credit reference agency, like Experian in the UK. It lists all kinds of organisations with which other organisations may be doing business. To be listed you do not have to be a corporation. You could be a charity or some other legal entity.

      Another point – does it matter as a matter of principle how a government agency is constituted legally? Does it matter that government agencies enter into contracts? Surely it is necessary for them to do so, when they are issuing work to 3rd party corporations?

      Yes its important for us to understand (comprehend) these things if we are to deal fairly with our corrupt legal system, but why is it wrong, in principle, that government should be constituted that way?

      The question of whether or not government agencies/departments are making a profit is a completely separate issue, in my view. If they are, where are the profits going? Where are the accounts? Where is the transparency? In the same black hole as the Bank of England’s, probably. These are issues that, if they are profit making corporations, we should care about.

      So, in short, I am interested in getting answers to these questions, because so far I haven’t seen any. Anyone have documentation? Anyone willing to write an article?

      • sharon says:

        Thank you Editor.
        I have only recently come across this information and so I’m still doing the research. The whole thing just struck me as odd, but I take your points on board and like you I would like to get some answers. I do know that people have ‘got away with it’ by using commercial law with respect to things like fixed penalty notices and TV licences but as to the laws themselves I’m not sure.

        • glenn says:

          This issue is active on a number of sites that have a great many visitors. All the people commenting are ley people to the law. They may have something, they may not. To get a definite answer that is concrete i believe will cost money in the form of Barristers fees. There are more than enough people who could throw a fiver in a pot to get this settled but it takes central organisation !

          To know the right words to say to a pig if pulled over would be priceless to me !

  41. sharon says:

    I agree with you Glenn and it would be worth a few quid to get a barristers view because if it turned out that we could fight back using the legislation that would be positive, another piece in the armoury.

    • glenn says:

      Michael Mansfield might be the man, do think he’d be interested ? I also remember the Professor of legal jurisprudence at Oxford speaking passionately about the De Menezes affair, perhaps they’d like to know there are people thinking like this in the country ! It’s easy to get the impression that all lawyers are gits but there do seem to be exceptions, perhaps we could find one to work on a price per question basis ? Maybe get a quote for an answer on a specific question, then see about raising the money ?

      I don’t mean to be dismissive of the law discovery work done by ley people, but the police and courts will be dismissive given half a chance !

  42. welsh_messenger says:

    The uncovering of this information on D&B may or may or may not be of significance. However, having checked it out for myself I noticed that Newcastle Council also traded as the local Magistrates Court. I am aware that under the Local Government Act 2000 that LA’s were required to select from four options of reformed constitutional makeup. The licensing function of the magistrates Courts was also transferred to local authorities although the funding didn’t follow that transfer of function.

    The first point that struck me was that this new method of working undermined the ‘doctrine of separation of powers’. For example, the LA also enforces the smoking ban through it’s EHO’s. Should a landlord be seen to turn a blind eye to his customers smoking he could loose his liquor license. It would be highly inappropriate, if on appeal to the magistrates, for his case to be heard by members of the same corporate body that withdrew his license in the first place. In simple terms the Corporation would be acting as civil policeman, prosecutor and judge in the same case. The potential certainly would exist for justice to be traded for profit.

    The Editor raises a valid point in saying that “Personally speaking, I am not convinced of most of this. I am willing to be – but so far, I haven’t seen the evidence, and just because lots of people are saying it, doesn’t make it so”.

    The evidence that something is very wrong is to be found in the publication of Magistrate’s court sentencing. A smoker who “drops a cigarette end is given a penalty of over £1,000” in comparison with one who is found guilty of “Drunk and disorderly behaviour and assaulting a police officer who was given a penalty of £175”.

    It might also be relevant to the promoters of the ‘life’s an illusion’ theory that the Lisbon Treaty provides the EU with legal personality. Why now?

    The Editor also asks “why is it wrong, in principle, that government should be constituted that way?” In terms of corporate law a corporate entity can only perform those acts defined in the objects clause of its’ constitutional documents. Corporate acts the extend beyond those powers are ‘ultra vires’ and void.

    Glenn said “It’s easy to get the impression that all lawyers are gits but there do seem to be exceptions”. The vital question for me is “How many QC’s do you ask the question before you receive the legal opinion that you seek?”
    [Sorry for such a long post]

    • sharon says:

      You make some very good points. I’m undecided on this but something tells me it stinks. If it is true that statute law cannot take precedence over common law then that raises serious questions. Also if the declaration of rights cannot be superseded then most statute law is unlawful because the declaration of rights states that most taxes are prohibited and that people can only be judged by a jury of their peers.
      As for different barristers providing different opinions – not sure that matters too much because it would have to be tested out in court and would eventually become part of case law, I guess.

      • glenn says:

        As Lizzy Windsor effectively abdicated on the first of jan’ 1973 there has not been a parliament properly sworn in since then. So no new statutes are binding since then ! Arguably long before then for many reasons, but a signature on a seditious document is proof that lizzy isn’t Queen any more and hasn’t been since then! The whole thing is a fraud !

        • Mark Welsh says:

          Very interesting, and on the face of it at least, valid point Glenn!

          • glenn says:

            What are the chances of getting Lizzy in the dock ?