Bank of England, Sterling and Government Treason

Mike Robinson

Apr 14th 2009
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Many people believe that the Bank of England is a privately owned corporation. Many people believe that it’s owned by the Rothchilds.

Neither of these beliefs is true.

The truth is much worse.

The story of the Bank of England is the story of the British Empire. The British Empire was never a political empire. It was always a monetary financial empire, as much a parasite on the people of Great Britain as the rest of the world. The idea of the Victorian’s British Empire bringing civilisation to the darkest parts of the world is one that needs real reconsideration by many Britons.

The Bank of England was originally set up as a core part of the British Empire – making huge profits from loans to the British East India Company and other tendrils of the Great British parasite. The mainstays of the trading activities of these companies were drugs, warfare and the looting of raw materials from poverty stricken nations.

As the banker to the Government, the Bank also did quite nicely from lending to the Treasury, thank you very much. In those days, the profits of the Bank went into the hands of the shareholders.

In 1844, the Rothschild inspired desire to take complete control of Britain came true with the Bank Charter Act. This gave the Bank of England the monopoly on the production of Sterling, and control of Britain’s money supply. In Northern Ireland and Scotland, where to this day commercial banks are allowed to print their own money, they must have one Bank of England note in reserve for every note of their own that they issue.

1946 brought the “nationalisation” of the Bank. At the end of WWII, Britain was more or less bankrupt, so it was agreed that instead of paying cash for the shares of the Bank, shareholders would receive 3% Treasury stock instead. With the 1946 Bank of England Act, all the Bank shares were transferred into the possession of the Treasury solicitor, and there they are to this day. It remains a corporation, not a government department.

In 1977, the Bank set up a wholly owned subsidiary called BANK OF ENGLAND NOMINEES LIMITED, (BOEN), a private limited company, no. 1307478, with 2 of its 100 £1 shares issued. According to its Memorandum & Articles of Association, its objectives are;-

“To act as Nominee or agent or attorney either solely or jointly with others, for any person or persons, partnership, company, corporation, government, state, organisation, sovereign, province, authority, or public body, or any group or association of them….”

Bank of England Nominees Limited was granted an exemption by Edmund Dell, Secretary of State for Trade, from the disclosure requirements under Section 27(9) of the Companies Act 1976 , because, “it was considered undesirable that the disclosure requirements should apply to certain categories of shareholders.”

Add that to the fact that the Bank of England is protected from prying eyes by its “Royal Charter” status and the Official Secrets Act. What have we got here?

In 1998, the final piece of the puzzle fell into place. In return for fixing the 1997 elections and getting New Labour into power, the Government enacted the 1998 Bank of England Act, which gave the Bank’s Court of Directors complete independence with regard to monetary policy.

So if we add this all together, we have a nationally owned institution which has the monopoly in the production of the national currency, and has independent control of the country’s monetary policy in the hands of a Court of Directors who serve the private banking system as they have since the Bank was established.

Think about it – private banking control of our currency and monetary policy, fully independent of government. When Gordon Brown signed away government oversight of the Bank, he committed Treason on a scale not seen in Britain since the Heath government took us into what would become the EU.

Since 1998 we have seen the Bank rapidly inflate the money supply, while at the same time relaxing regulation on how banks could lend. No longer were banks required to have cash in reserve for loans they made. Instead the vast majority of currency entering the economy did so as a result of commercial banks entering some numbers into a ledger – money out of thin air, literally.

Working for the private bankers, the Bank of England set things up to maximise the returns for their banking colleagues’ speculative activities, in the full knowledge that as a nationalised institution, it would be the UK taxpayer who was carrying all the risk, and not, as would have been the case before 1946, the shareholders.

The Court of Directors is working for the Anglo/Dutch/Saudi empire – the still-alive-and-kicking hidden hand behind the British Empire of the Victorian age. So it’s no surprise that the solution they provide to today’s manufactured monetary financial collapse is to print more money. Their aim is to destroy the last vestiges of British sovereignty; for a hyper-inflated and hyper-devalued Sterling to be replaced by a single, global, currency, under a single world fascist government.

Gordon Brown announced the new financial infrastructure at the G20. He announced the new global currency – to be issued and managed by the newly reinvigorated IMF.

This has to be stopped. It has to be stopped now. We want our country back, before there’s no country left. We want our country back from the parasites that use one square mile of London as their base of operations. Back in a way it hasn’t been for about 250 years. Join is in this fight – come to the next British Constitution Group conference in London on the 13th June, and find out what you can do.


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  1. RedAlert says:

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    DISINFORMATION ALERT
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    This article is one step in the right direction but it and the comments which followed it show clearly that there is a great deal of disagreement on the basic facts and therefore on the issues and the means of resolving the situation.

    For example, whilst the BoE (unlike the Fed) is not privately owned it is true (as has been pointed out) that the former shareholders took debentures i.e. loan notes paying interest in exchange. HOWEVER I thought the BoE’s profits were divided between such debentureholders and the Treasury. Someone can research that and a good starting place seems to be the basic legislation:

    http://www.statutelaw.gov.uk/Home.aspx
    Bank of England Act as amended

    Plus of course the BoE’s accounts, which have been commented on already on this site I believe.

    I do not follow 100% the stuff about the nominee company which looks like a possible red herring or at least subordinate to the issues of debt money creation and leverage though fractional reserve lending.

    Many people replying here have quoted the likes of Ron Paul, Alex Jones etc. Please bear in mind that none can be taken at face value, all have an agenda and the mixing of truth and lies is a prerequisite to be a convincing disinformation exponent aka liar.
    There is also another class of people active in ‘talk radio’, truth seekers’ sites and so on who may themselves be misled and genuinely promote certain views which whilst balanced and politically acceptable somehow defuse (vaporisation syndrome) the hard questions that inevitably arise when you have surveyed the literature for a few years. Among these Dr Stan Monteith comes to mind. In this regard you might consider the second part of the following talk by the late Pastor Sheldon Emry (dec’d 1985):

    http://www.sheldonemrylibrary.com/emry1980.htm

    That Old Serpent Called The Devil & Satan – part 1 / 8001a
    That Old Serpent Called The Devil & Satan – part 2 /8001b

    For example, many adopt the argument that gold backing would solve the problem of inflation but listen to the sermons/talks here also dating from 1980:

    The Utter Impossibility Of Gold Backed Money – part 1 /8022a
    The Utter Impossibility Of Gold Backed Money – part 2 /8022b

    There is an extensive range of literature now widely available in electronic format which explains the fractional reserve banking system, debt money and the fact that loans are the required means of bringing money into existence (so no or fewer loans, less money in circulation and 1930s Depression beckons…) Rowing of the money supply as stated in the Money Masters is the root of economic “cycles”- wealth is transferred in a recession, not destroyed. A starting point for books is arguably
    http://iamthewitness.com
    where the likes of Woolfolk’s The Great Red Dragon can be had.

    Answering the question about the effects of inflation, consider the enormous volume of information at http://www.mises.org and http://www.lewrockwell.com and in particular the booklet (online) by J. Guido Hulsmann – Deflation And Liberty (2008)), but bear in mind those sites propagate the views of many who espouse gold backing. Remember that Lincoln’s greenbacks were not gold backed, nor was the eighteenth century [US] colonial scrip, and Pidcock (above) refers to the debt-free Bradbury notes – the most important comment on this page after the original article itself.

    Other books worth reading are:

    M.W.Walbert – The Coming Battle (1889).

    Gertrude M. Coogan – The Money Creators (1935).

    June Grem – The Money Manipulators (1971).

    Murray N. Rothbard – The Mystery Of Banking (1983).

    David Livingstone – Terrorism And The Illuminati (2007) (online version marred by typos and text derivative in major respects, read with caution like everything else).

    and
    Charles A. Lindbergh – Banking and Currency and The Money Trust.

    Charles E. Coughlin Driving Out the Money Changers (1933).

    It is no accident that some of the most perceptive writing and verbal commentary has been delivered by Christian ministers in radio and privately recorded talks from the 1930s-1980s, exclusively in the USA (something to do with the First Amendment?)….

    Note that in some cases certain chapters are omitted from the online versions so you will either have to buy a copy yourself (some reissued in paperback) or go to the British Library or another decent library, get membership and read….

    Forget about learning anything from the BBC, ITV or other mainstream media. And bear in mind that “alternative” sources such as this current site may themselves be “controlled opposition”, part of the Hegelian dialectic i.e. you just have to think, whatever and wherever you read, about who is saying it and to whom the benefit accrues from doing the thing recommended. An entertaining exercise is to try and divine which (if either) of Daryl Bradford Smith (iamthewitness.com) or Eric Hufschmid (www.erichufschmid.net) supports the banksters’ infrastructure and which does not. You have many hundred of hours of recordings and swathes of writings to enjoy along the way when deciding why they fell out (or did they…).

    Last but not least: why reinvent the wheel and spend time doing original research on a problem which is already well defined and known among some (except to verify what they say about it and suggest)? I thought there was at least one organisation already existing in the UK dedicated to substituting the current debt money system. I can’t recall the name but google or other personal data collectors no doubt can oblige… Or search for names of persons who have been involved in this and related endeavours, some from diverse quarters (e.g. the Islamic convert David Pidcock (above)[+]; listen to the mp3 interviews by Daryl Bradford Smith with Col. Barry Turner (retd) dd. 22 February 2006, 21 April 2006, 8 September 2006, 7 February 2007. DBS seems to have gone off him as he became “spiritual” and presumably DBS thought this exhibited the “vaporisation” syndrome mentioned above.
    [+] DBS’ interviews with Pidcock dated 16 February 2006, 24 February 2006, 27 June 2006, 26 July 2006, 3 January 2007, 18 November 2007, 29 December 2008.

    Many hands make light work. And given the growing absence of paid work the upside theoretically is more hands itching to be allowed to work this particular pump. After all, as Lew Rockwell opined, knowing whether you’re being ripped off is interesting.

    Don’t forget that the “Axis Of Evil” countries are exclusively those which do not have a Western style central bank. Not that this precludes interimittent and covert co-operation globally when considered mutually advantageous…

    Consider sending your refined comments here:

    Commons Treasury Committee: Members.

    Nick Ainger MP Carmarthen West & South Pembrokeshire Labour
    Mr Graham Brady MP Altrincham and Sale West Conservative
    Mr Colin Breed MP South East Cornwall Liberal Democrats
    Jim Cousins MP Newcastle upon Tyne Central Labour
    Mr Michael Fallon MP (Sub-committee Chairman) Sevenoaks Conservative
    Ms Sally Keeble MP Northampton North Labour
    Mr Andrew Love MP Edmonton Labour
    Rt Hon John McFall MP (Chairman) West Dunbartonshire Labour
    Mr George Mudie MP Leeds East Labour
    John Mann MP Bassetlaw Labour
    John Thurso MP Caithness, Sutherland and Easter Ross Liberal Democrats
    Mr Mark Todd MP South Derbyshire Labour
    Mr Andrew Tyrie MP Chichester Conservative
    Sir Peter Viggers MP Gosport

    (Looks like Brian Gerrish made the big-time for being slated; he’s now being slammed as a pro-Zionist disinfo outlet by that disinfo artist supremo, Eric Hufscmid: http://www.erichufschmid.net/Brian-Gerrish.html ).

    • Enufs Enuf says:

      Whilst I don’t always agree with Darryl’s attitude towards certain issues, if anyone is in doubt as to who the ’shill’ is – ie Hufschmid or Bradford Smith – I recommend that everyone listen to last night’s (Tuesday 21st) mp3 from Darryl with his regular guest from the world of finance, Muhammad Rafeeq – especially the last 20 minutes or so of the programme which I found very moving as they discuss the evil of the ‘one-worlders’ and – as they (and I) know that fundamentally we are in a spiritual battle for our very souls. In fact, just listen to part 4 from Darryl’s site which will give you an idea of who is speaking from the heart……

      Also, Darryl has many hours of mp3’s with Andrew Carrington Hitchcock, author of the book “The Synagogue of Satan” about the Rothschild “dynasty” (die-nasty!!). The book is available to read online, scroll down the page.

      There’s an extensive library of wonderful works exposing ‘the agenda’ at the site too and you can read/hear about the ‘bust up’ with Hufschmid in the archives if you really want to – although I prefer to ignore the fall-outs and concentrate on discovering Truth.

      http://www.iamthewitness.com/

      Last night’s prog is in 4 x parts – if I don’t listen live I often pick up the programme in one long mp3 a couple of days later from:

      http://www.twowitnesses.com/

      I also highly recommend the Barry Turner, David Pidcock, Dr Day and also James Dickie and El Taher I/V’s too at ‘the witness’ site.

      I hadn’t seen poor Brian being ’shilled’ by Eric – he’s obviously making huge waves if they have to openly attack him using one of their ‘attack dogs’!! The enemy of all right thinking humans can’t stand the Light of Truth exposing it!!

      How to take over the world: perpetually cry “Wolf” or use anyone gullible enough (spiritually unconscious) to be dupes, then point the finger at them when they’ve outlived their usefulness in the agenda…..it’s worked for centuries – UNTIL NOW.

      • Voir Dire says:

        I recommend too Darryl Bradford Smith’s interviews with writer John Kaminski, and please DO read Andrew Carrington Hitchcock’s very important, (gives a historical timeline as to how this domination was achieved) awesome book from that site.

        I so appreciate our courageous, highly-intelligent, technically savvy men who are doing everything (radio, internet, videos, books) within the confines of what little power we possess (this almighty freedom forum). I understand NOW that our many, many patriots had been there all along (before the advent of the internet) but without a venue for communicating with others in this stifling climate of oppression owing to WHO owns ALL our media.

        • Mark Welsh says:

          Voir Dire: You may want to take a look at this then if you believe, as we all do, that the internet is the one major avenue for us to attack this.

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCkCWxv3kUE

          Yeah. A ROCKEFELLER! Who else?

        • Mark Welsh says:

          Voir Dire. If you consider, as we all do, the internet to be the one weapon of most consequence that we have against this then I suggest you take a look at the following:

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCkCWxv3kUE

          Yes. A ROCKEFELLER! Who else?

    • cheesy says:

      OMG!
      I suppose the only way to avoid these pervasive Zionist agents is to stay indoors, not watch telly, not listen to the radio, not go online, not read a book or paper, not talk to anyone and not join a protest group or movement.
      Just believe in Mr Hufschmid and all will be well!

      • Voir Dire says:

        Add Andrew Hitchcock Carrington to your list of patriots as he too is an Englishman who worked in finance (those who work in “high finance” and the belly of the banking beast are among the first to catch on) for twenty-plus years (how in the world he managed to get his book published evades me).

        Note to “cheesy” (apt moniker):

        Your condescending remark doesn’t even warrant a response, but I’ll give it a shot. The whole point is to be WELL INFORMED. This is how you convert people to truths in the arena of warring ideas. I have personally awakened many people (including family members, people I correspond with on the internet, and even co-workers) to the horrifying implications of what we face. As Mark noted, he only connected the dots a year ago, and look at the importance of what he has created here. And as poster Frank Verismo noted, we chip away at their diabolical house of cards bit-by-bit.

        Thank you, Mark, for the recommendation. Will watch it at the first opportunity.

    • I fear the temptations of a single world currency might be beyond us Mark. Abstemiousness has its limits. Even a saint will find acceptable reasons to inflate if there is no comparison available to keep him in check. Are you old enough to remember the Economist Magazine’s delightful substitution of Mars Bars for Sterling? Having a single currency does not avoid inflation and more likely facilitates it. When money loses value as would occur in the scenario you depict, exchange reverts to barter. We would do better listening to the Chinese who recently proposed credit based on the cost of a basket of commodities.

      I believe our intention is to create a commercial system that operates on competitive principles i.e. a genuine form of capitalism as envisaged by Adam Smith and one or two other late 18th century philosophers. There are not many of them and by the time you get to Baring, Ricardo and McCullough you have already arrived at the special pleaders so focus on the very early exponents of what we now call capitalism – you will find it delightful and refreshing. It really should be the case that the chap who works for it can start a bank or a utility company or an energy provider or any other type of big earning venture that is presently closed to the hoi polloi.

      I completely agree with you that over-population is not a problem either. Malthus was utterly wrong and the only reason his name is known today is the ideological basis he gives the ruling class in maintaining their control. We can run our human population up much more before we risk genuine shortages and by that time I have no doubt we could be populating suitable planets in nearby star systems.

      All those apparent shortages that the gamblers say cause price increases today, they’re due to Malthus and the speculation his silly idea permits. Just look at the work the Dutch, the Rice Research Institute and many others have done in increasing crop yields. How on Earth can it seriously be said we are running out of food? A few months ago the price of rice (the most important grain on the planet) almost doubled. Why? Because one group of speculators heard there was a drought in Australia, an insignificant producer of rice, another group placed a bunch of orders on Thai rice exporters (without deposits I should say and nearly all orders later cancelled) and a third group of media people published dire warnings of shortage. Voila, rice price doubles, people starve, profits made. Relax Mark – we are not running out of food. We can produce plenty. There is just more profit in distributing it unevenly.

      On global warming, I think we should have no doubt that 7 billion humans do have global effects but we should not get carried away by the realisation that our emissions can do that. This is a dynamic planet and the weather changes all the time. We are on the right track with cleaner energy sources and transportation, recycling garbage, efficient buildings and preservation of greenery. There will be winners and losers. Canada and Russia stand likely to vastly increase the useable area of their countries while Australia, the lucky country, may be facing some adversity. Just think of it as change. Nothing stays the same for long.

      As regards your comments about good countries and evil countries that’s just the political system driven by commercial requirements. When the merchants don’t get what they want they call in the Consul. If the Consul doesn’t get what he wants he calls in the army. Its the way we Anglo Americans have ruled the world for two and a half centuries. I suspect its because we are not very good at negotiating but we are rather skilful at fighting so many of our international relations become trials by battle.

      On opium, there was a story circulating at the time President Bush first overtly involved himself in Afghanistan to the effect that the Taliban’s success in ending opium production had caused European buyers to seek for supply in the Far East which had formerly been the US supplier. Increasing prices in Golden Triangle caused increasing street prices in the States and led to greater street crime. I tried to evaluate this but the extent of street crime in the States is so great it was not possible for me to reach that attribution. However it is a fact that confronting the Taliban and destabilising Afghanistan allowed poppy farming to resume with sales going out through America’s new chums in the Stans and the supply/demand figures were restored. I should not attribute this to the political leadership of any country Mark. It is far more likely to be astute merchants pulling the strings of silly politicians.

      On the subject of Companies Law and commercial organisation, I have the same difficulties you have Mark but I do know a few things after a long career in commerce.

      The first erroneous political concession to business was the legalisation of limited liability. Pitt had to do it to conceal the BoE’s bankruptcy and then everyone else wanted it too. Today nobody bats an eye at it.

      Secondly is the use of nominee companies. This development allows companies to both hide assets from creditors and do things they are ashamed of doing without others knowing it is actually them. Lawyers go along with this fraud because it is astonishingly lucrative for them – they have to ‘lift the corporate veil,’ as they say before they can identify a defendant and its an uncertain process. Astonishingly, the nominee company has been around for over a century but its use for despicable purposes only became apparent after President Nixon talked the western world into demonetising gold and accepting the US Dollar instead – “as good as gold,” it was called in all countries by all newspapers. Since then nothing in the financial sector is what it appears to be.

      Thirdly is the holding company, a business which does no business. Holding companies own the assets that operating companies have been able to accumulate in good times. To ensure the goodies are never lost, the holding company contracts with no-one except subsidiaries to which it rents land and buildings and all the other assets it has withdrawn from the risks of trade.

      Fourthly, is the government’s own penchant for excluding people from competition by increasing levels of complexity in registering a business, insuring it, getting the necessary certificates, and a wide variety of administrative red tape that is reminiscent of the East India Company.

      There are probably many more things to say about the commercial field but these four objectionable features should be revisited. This post is too long already Mark – I’ll stop here.

  2. Baron von Lotsov says:

    Another banker drops dead:

    “One report suggested that he had been found hanged in the cellar.”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1172595/Chief-financial-officer-stricken-mortgage-giant-Freddie-Mac-commits-suicide.html

    You can tell what is going on by the vagueness of the language being deployed.

  3. Mocklate says:

    I enjoy reading this website. But I think that alot of people are merely running in circles regarding the issues debated.
    After much investigation, I realised that the NWO cannot be defeated. You cannot change the world (and by doing that you are just imposing your ideals- not necessarily everyone elses) – the ONLY thing you can change is yourself.

    If you want to find out how we got to where we are today, I would urge people to read up on ancient societies, including secret societies and orders. It is completely natural to have a heirachy- and alledgedly the Egyptians were the first civilisation to introduce the idea of patriotism and socialism.
    Take a look at any other species of animal- there will be dominant and controlled animals even in the same group. Deception is also a part of nature that is often overlooked- it is natural to decieve- who hasn’t ever told a lie? (decieved somebody)… I digress.

    That fact is that there is no society, there are merely a bunch of individuals who strive to be in the herd and who are genuinely afraid to be themselves for fear of rejection by the herd. These animals live in fantasy world whereby they have decided not to work in advance, but to get their ‘free meal’ i.e. a loan, mortgage, credit card etc therefore they WILL be controlled and they will be shackled to debt!.

    You cannot ‘wake people up’, you can only change your own circumstances by being more responsible. And frankly… would you really want to wake these animals up?.

    p.s. EVERY revolution / protest is planned by those in power.
    How do you avoid being ousted from power? simply control or BE the opposing force aswell as the current force in power.

  4. Voir Dire says:

    “After much investigation, I realised that the NWO cannot be defeated.” — Mocklate

    What a bunch of defeatist bullcrap. I can only HOPE that you are a woman writing such nonsense. This is EXACTLY how these tyrants want you to think. Perhaps you can find some consolation and encouragement from this financial expert, Dr. Darryl Schoon, and his many excellent articles on WHY fiat money schemes always implode:

    http://www.drschoon.com/articles.asp

    Here in the U.S., we have a vehicle for revolution that our brilliant founding fathers’ inserted into our Constitution (too FEW people KNOW it but MORE NEED to). You’d better believe all the legal eagle lawyers infesting our Congress KNOWS it and tremble at the thought of We the People awakening to this reality. It is Article V. Thomas Jefferson advocated revolution.

    “Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established, should not be changed for light and transient causes; and, accordingly, all experience [has] shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But, when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce [the people] under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.” –Thomas Jefferson: Declaration of Independence, 1776. ME 1:29, Papers 1:429

    Under Article V, there are two methods for achieving it but the first, to be initiated by our illustrious (already plagued by dual-agent spies/terrorists) Congress is utterly worthless at this juncture. The second is by two-thirds applications of the states for a new Constitutional Convention which could then be re-written to specifically exclude members of this hateful Klan whose interests are unquestionably antagonistic to our own (some other badly needed reforms if preserving the existing the body of law: implementing term limits, reversing the damage from the tortured interpretation of the 14th “anchor baby” amendment, providing the means for We the People to recall members of Congress with criminal penalties for those not upholding the law, NO MORE tenure for members of our Federal Judiciary are amongst the many corrections needed). The revolution HAS to come from the states whose supremacy and powers were long, long ago usurped by our Leviathan. The primary concern I have is we may have passed the point of no return with our (likewise engineered by these same dual agents) devastating immigration policies as we now have too many hostile, ignorant, alien outsiders who do not share in nor understand our heritage or appreciate the FACT that we face a common enemy. We will likely encounter many decades of misery before collectively understanding they absolutely intend our people’s total destruction and that we do indeed have a way out of this, but I am confident the day WILL come when Article V will be put into play.

  5. I cannot agree with you there VoirDire. We do know what to do but we are not doing it.

    The situation requires sites such as this to call for volunteer representatives from every county or province whoare willing to come together in a national convention to discuss the recovery of the government by the people and to elect persons at that convention to give effect to that end.

    We have many tools we can use to ensure our success and violence need not be one of them. I have in mind a popular movement to ’shock and awe’ the present gang. Either they shape-up or they’re history.

  6. Mark Welsh says:

    Ron Paul: 20th April 2009

    “Enough is Enough”

    This man cannot possibly be a “shill”. I’ve “read” people all my life. This guy is real.

    Even on the offchance I was wrong, he’s just said too much and so much which IS real.

    He has never voted for the bail outs, he’s anti fed (while at the same time he is NOT pro-NAFTA/NAU/Centralised government. He has stated time and again LESSER government.
    He’s totally opposed to the imperial aims of the government’s foreign policy.

    Noone can touch him because he is simply 100% integrity.

    “God” bless the guy!

  7. Mark Welsh says:

    Always too quick with my “trigger” finger! I should be a MET cop! ;-)

    Ron Paul Video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q25xrPwmX1s

    • Voir Dire says:

      He IS the REAL DEAL; the genuine article, a patriot extraordinaire, and sadly one of the few friends in Congress the American people actually have.

      The “New American” magazine does a “conservative voting index guide” whereby they analyze and publish every single Congressman’s/woman’s (Senate/House) votes every single year as to how they uphold the Constitution. Only the truly honorable (the only one deserving of that special designation) Ron Paul has a perfect 100% score year-after-year.

      The Republicans’ have tried to oust him from the party and have tried to defeat him in elections. THAT says it ALL.

      Stephanie

      • Mark Welsh says:

        Stephanie… Yes that DOES say it all!

        Meanwhile, if you haven’t already seen this then you might wish to have a listen. He is even warned of what COULD happen to him if he gets this H.R.1207 through and gets close to ending the Federal Reserve.

        I can only say this: Ron Paul has got balls!

        Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53sCu7-6Dn8

        Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y-xsh88WqA

        Even Hilary clinton the other day, while questioned by him on Foreign Policy, had to comment on his following. However, I wonder if there is more of a message behind her “congratulations” than we would know at this point?

  8. Tom Collins says:

    What a fascinating lot of postings, from some real intelligentsia (and a few duffheads).

    It warms my heart to know we have so many patriotic (if I can still use that word) people who “know” what is really going on, and are suggesting (and hopefully, taking) , the means to rout the enemy.

    Methinks it will be a long, hard, struggle because THEY are so firrmly entrenched AND have most of the money! And as my dear old dad used to say – “Money Speaks All Languages.”

    So, I can only say, keep up the postings. BE CONSTRUCTIVE. Continue to offer ideas and support to bring about the demise of these aliens, traitors, call them what you will.
    We CAN triumph, persistence pays off.

  9. Mark Welsh says:

    CFR Corporate Members Get Lion’s Share of Bailout Funds
    Written by Thomas R. Eddlem
    Monday, 23 March 2009 11:30

    Newspapers are fixated upon $160 million in bonuses given to American International Group (AIG) executives. And it’s nice to know where the millions are going (note: the bonuses could have been cancelled had the federal government let the company go bankrupt, as officials should have). But where are the trillions in TARP, TALC and Federal Reserve Bank bailout funds going?

    The man in charge of administering the bailouts is Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, who served as a staff member of the New York City-based Council on Foreign Relations before being hired in 2003 to head the New York City branch of the Federal Reserve Bank (Fed). As the vice chairman of the Fed’s Open Market Committee, Geithner is probably a poor choice to get the nation out of it’s current economic mess. He served as Alan Greenspan’s number two man at the Fed, so Geithner is as responsible as anyone for facilitating the severity of the real estate and financial bubble and its subsequent collapse. After all, the Fed was the driving force behind the asset bubble, inflating the bubble larger and larger through artificially low interest rates and an inflationary easy-money policy.

    Under Geithner and his predecessor (former Goldman Sachs CEO Henry “Hank” Paulson), the majority of bailout funds have been awarded to high-level donors to Geithner’s former employer: the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR).

    Here’s a survey of TARP bailout awards to the CFR’s corporate members (there are a total of only a little more than 200 corporate members at all levels):

    Among the “Founders,” those who give $100,000 or more to the CFR, can be found:

    American Express Company: $3.389 billion TARP
    Goldman Sachs: $10 billion TARP, plus a separate Federal Reserve bailout and more than $13 billion of the allotment to AIG (below)
    Merrill Lynch: $45 billion through its corporate parent, Bank of America, which is also a CFR Premium corporate member, plus $6.8 billion of AIG’s bailout funds
    “President’s Circle” CFR members ($60,000 or more) received the following bailout funds:

    American International Group (AIG): $182 billion in total TARP/TALF funds to date
    Citibank: $50 billion TARP
    Morgan Stanley: $10 billion TARP
    Premium members ($30,000 or more to CFR):

    Bank of New York/Mellon Corporation: $3 billion TARP
    Freddie Mac: Sharing with Fannie Mae $1.25 trillion — that’s $1,250 billion — in mortgage securities being purchased from the Federal Reserve Bank
    Chrysler: $4 billion TARP, plus $1.5 billion TARP for Chrysler Financial
    JP Morgan Chase: $25 billion TARP
    CIT Group: $2.33 billion TARP
    That’s a total of more than $1 trillion in bailout funds for CFR corporate members, easily the lion’s share of the total bailout funds awarded to date. CFR Membership seems to have its benefits, and then some.

    So why is no one asking questions about why most of the funds are going to the former employers of our Treasury secretaries? Perhaps because many of the entities who should ask “why” are also CFR corporate members. Among the financial press, the CFR counts among its members Bloomberg, General Electric (NBC, CNBC, MSNBC), News Corporation (Fox, Fox Business), Standard and Poor’s, ABC News, Time Warner (CNN, Time magazine, etc.), Moody’s, and McGraw Hill (book publishers).

    Somebody should ask the question why the same people who brought us this financial crisis are now bringing us the “cure,” and why that cure necessarily involves financing former employers of the people making the decisions.

  10. Baron von Lotsov says:

    Another dead banker, this one apparently shot rather than suicided. Even so, dead men don’t talk.

    Two in the last three days???

    “According to reports, Welsh-born Mr Jones is the former partner of a local politician who has been interviewed by Canadian investigators about an alleged tax fraud, although he has not been linked to any wrongdoing.”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1173595/British-banker-coma-shot-head-execution-style-hit-Bahamas.html

  11. Baron von Lotsov says:

    Edit

    Well actually almost dead, but even so.

  12. shallot says:

    I think you discredit your point by inflating it with wild conspiracy theories. Your ideas make some sense, but I’d hesitate to pass them on, because the rest of your views are so inaccurate. It’s a shame.

    • The Editor says:

      I take it you are referring to the main article?

      Did you come here to add something to the discussion, or just to throw brainless accusations of inaccuracy and so-called conspiracy theory? If you feel there is something inaccurate, why not elaborate and so add to the discussion, and our understanding?

  13. Chris O says:

    Chris O Reply: sorry I 1st posted this I think in the wrong place apologies
    April 30th, 2009 at 8:28 pm

    This seems a very civilised forum :
    Perhaps we should recert to the old system used in the usa known as Colonial Scrip

    ——————————————————————————–

    A study of American Colonial history will reveal that Benjamin Franklin went to England as a representative of the Colonies.

    The English officials asked how it was the Colonies managed to collect enough taxes to build poor houses, and how they were able to handle the great burden of caring for the poor. Franklin’s reply was most revealing: “We have no poor houses in the Colonies, and if we had, we would have no one to put in them, as in the Colonies there is not a single unemployed man, no poor and no vagabonds.” Think long and hard about this. In the American colonies before the American Revolution, there was “not a single unemployed man, no poor and no vagabonds”. — no one on Welfare, no one on Social Security, no homeless, no income tax, no alphabet agencies, No IRS, BATF, FBI, DEA, CIA, HEW, OSHA, SBA, and on and on and on to provide for the “general welfare” of our villages, towns, cities and states. How did Benjamin Franklin explain this to the British officials of his day?
    How would he explain it to today’s lawyers, judges, politicians and other government officials? “It is because, in the Colonies, we issue our own paper money. We call it Colonial Script, and we issue only enough to move all goods freely from the producers to the Consumers; and as we create our money, we control the purchasing power of money, and have no interest to pay.”
    -Benjamin Franklin

    It is also worth reading Louis Mcfadden and his still outstanding challenge to the FED
    see link http://home.hiwaay.net/~becraft/mcfadden.html

  14. Chris O says:

    Yes Mocklate ,that is defeatist

    one point that stands out with the many I speak with & email ,many can real off lists of the obvious ie freemasons, bilderberger, CFR, black nobility ,13 families . he one that usually gets ommitted is our in house 5th column that being COMMON PURPOSE why not listen to Brian Gerrish an ex Naval Officer , he is an excellent speaker. link above and also at the top of this website.

    One point that sticks out in my mind when he is speaking interuptions usually about the above mentioned;
    his reply : as an ex military man when being shot at the priority is to see wher its coming from little point convcerning whats miles away. He does of course talk on the above.

    He has stated the biggest fear COMMON PURPOSE has s being discovered and he encourages people to call their local councils & police to ask how much they spend on Common purpose.

    We Also have a written Constitution & Bill of rights

  15. Chris O says:

    Reply to Core Luminous

    In essence all children are born with innate intelligence:

    Then the (P)harmaceuticle industry begin to destroy this with vaccines.
    Then comes the
    United Nations

    UN-0010—FREEDOM ON THE ALTER : The U.N.’s Crusade Against God and Family – William Norman Grigg – $12.00
    Documents the U.N.’s vision of a New World Order, where children will be indoctrinated in socialist ‘values’ which may include compulsory ‘volunteer labor’; where control will be exercised over all family life, including coercive population control, parental ‘Licensing’ and the seizure of children from parents deemed ‘incompetant’ by U.N. approved officials; and where America’s culture, free institutions and biblically-derived values will be eradicated–in preparation for the official world religion.

    UN-0020—PARENT POLICE : The United Nations Want Your Children – Ingrid J. Guzman – List Price – $6.34 (@) Click Here to Order!!
    Not long ago, the United Nations General Assembly adopted a treaty that could put an end to parenting as we know it. If ratified, this treaty would turn the state into the co-parent, with authority to “assist” in child rearing. It would also give the state the power to enforce such so-called “children’s rights” as (1) :The right of the child to object to all religious teaching (Article 14); (2) : The right of the child to associate with anyone they chose, regardless of their parent’s wishes (Article 14); (3) : The right of the child to see, hear or read whatever they chose (Article 13). Don’t be misled or deceived by advocates of “Children’s Rights”. If ratified, this treaty will make parents subject to prosecution for trying to instill values that the U.N. decides are not in the best interest of their child

    Whatever wealth one has its useless without good Health this is one of the Elites main targets. Every attempt is being made to prevent us looking after our own health.
    they use CODEX ALIMENTARIOUS this was set in motion by either I G Farben or its present day constiuents.

    I have added the above link to Dr Mathias Rath . which is a good starting point ,
    I have also noted that some of you are aware of the dangers of ASPARTAME…

  16. Correct me if I wrong but, to get a grip on the situation, one has to stand back from all the crap and illusions and take a simple view. The UK is a corporation. That corporation owns the assets of the UK (forget for a moment all the complex financial instruments and money). The UK corporation has shareholders and workers – you and me and, in my mind, one’s birth certificate is your “share” certificate. There are roughly 60,000,000 of us – all of who own 1/60,000,000 of the assets of this country (that is nett assets – less liabilities). Someone (I don’t know who) worked out that each “share” is “worth” around £25,000,000 – each. In a complex way (that for this view the details are immaterial) The “Corporation” of which we are all “shareholder” owns the nett assets of the country.
    They are not producing money “out of this air” – they are creating it, backed by the assets of the “corporation” – in other words, the nett assets of the entire country. As we are shareholder in the “corporation”, they are, in fact, “lending” us money – backed by what we already own – our “share” in the “corporation”.
    I know that this is a massively simplified view but, when it comes down to it, they are making money by simply “lending” us what we already own. The only “money” the banks “risk” is the small portion that they have to lend themselves, which, in the scheme of things is minimal.
    As it is illegal for a bank to lend depositor’s money, what they lend has to be secured on solid and tangible assets (directly or indirectly).
    In short, the banks are lending money (worthless paper or figures on a computer) backed by what we already own and charging us interest on our own money (as 90 or 95% of it comes from the “corporation” – which in turn “we” own).
    I am currently embroiled with a very strange and increasingly bizarre battle with Lloyds TSB regarding security they took for a loan that was never made. Now, this is clearly breach of contract and we are taking the required action for this and damages caused but, one of the other items we are going to “test” is to get the bank (with respect to other small business loans we have) to prove that the money lent was from them and not from “the corporation” (as it was) because, if the latter is true and, as I partially own the “corporation”, they have simply lent me what I already owned and the contact is void – as they have suffered no loss.

    I know that this is a simplistic view of things but, as I said, one has to sometimes stand back to look at the whole picture and, as I see it, despite the smoke and mirrors that they throw up (in the form of complex financial instruments – I wonder if they are able to form a band with them), the basic facts are that, they are not making money “out of thin air, water or anything like that” – they are printing it, backed by “our” shares in the corporation of which they are directors and managers – and they are doing it fraudulently.

    Paul

    BTW – The “battle” (well it’s not really) with Lloyds becomes more bizarre by the day. This week alone, I received a letter saying how pleased they were to offer us back our working overdraft (despite the fact that when we try to pay money in – it comes back “account closed”???) then the following day, we received a formal demand for all the money back (dated the day before the letter offering the money) – anyone like to tell me if I have an overdraft facility or not ?

    • Mark Welsh says:

      Paul, that’s a very interesting situation you have there! TPUC by chance? And while I understand where you’re going with all of this and follow the logic, it is also interesting to note that while we have a share in thic Corporation called the UK, we are, I believe, in “bankruptcy”.

      Would be interested to explore/discuss further with you on this.

  17. Chris O says:

    Attention Paul from Devon

    Well good luck with the lloyds debacle !!
    however its over simplistic to divide the alledged assetts of Britain between the general public , firstly as they have no means by which to cash them in.

    The City of London is a separate entity to the rest of the country , protocol demands the Queen ask permission from the Lord mayor.

    I hope you find the following informative.
    The three city states rules the world together.

    The “CITY” in London

    The “City”, also known as the “square mile” an area of 677 hectares in London is just like the Vatican City in Rome their own state. The City-State, pays no tax, has its own courts, its own laws, their own flag, their own private police at about 2,000 men, and a night population that underestimates 9000 inhabitants.
    Here are the Bank of England, a privately owned institution which is not subject to regulation by the British Parliament, and in fact is a sovereign world power. Moreover, Lloyd’s of London (insurance), London Stock Exchange (stock exchange) Fleet Streets newspapers and publishing, offices in all British banks, offices in 385 foreign banks, and 70 U.S. banks.
    Internationaly they use the “Crown Princess” as a symbol of power but the real power belongs to the bankers and not the royal house. It is very difficult to gain an insight into the persons who effectively control the Bank of England. A name that leaked is Rothschild.
    The “City of London” is an economic entity which is legally separate from England and in control of all lawyers and banks across the world – including the Federal Reserve in the USA! The “City” is also the English seat of the world’s Freemansonry with the United Grand Lodge of England as the center. http://www.ugle.org.uk

    See link for more .

  18. Mark Welsh says:

    The problem we have here in the UK is that people STILL wonder what the American Federal Reserve issues have got to do with us!! We have serious need for education in this country. Most just don’t seem to get it!
    When you say “The Fed is the same as the Bank of England and neither are tied to government nor work in the best interests of either country” they just glaze over.

    They just don’t understand their apathy and ignorance is digging their own grave!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAVaOe2zV3w

    Ron Paul Revolution Sweeping The GOP
    May 5, 2009

    Dear Friend of Liberty,

    With each passing day, Ron Paul is winning people over to the cause of Federal Reserve transparency and sound money.

    More and more Congressmen have been signing onto Dr. Paul’s Audit the Fed bill, HR 1207, and it is now up to a whopping 124 cosponsors.

    That cosponsor list now includes over half of the House Republican Caucus. Dr. Paul is truly leading the GOP back to its roots of sound money and fiscal conservatism.

    In fact, The Washington Independent’s David Weigel just wrote an important article about how Ron Paul’s message is resonating with Republican lawmakers. All I can say is, “It’s about time!”

    http://washingtonindependent.com/41786/ron-pauls-economic-theories-winning-gop-converts

    And today, Dr. Paul proved the case for Federal Reserve transparency to people across America by grilling Ben Bernanke on national television.

    Chairman Ben is running scared now that HR 1207 is gaining steam. He even tried to appease Dr. Paul by offering transparency on everything except monetary policy — the Fed’s sole function!

    It is clear we are winning this fight, and I believe that ultimately we will see it through to victory. But this is no time to rest on our laurels.

    Keep writing and calling your congressman if he has not already cosponsored HR 1207.

    http://www.campaignforliberty.com/campaigns/supporthr1207.php

    Circulate more petitions and Audit the Fed literature to your friends and neighbors to recruit them to this winning effort.

    Thank you for all you have done and all you will do. With your continued support, Ron Paul and Campaign for Liberty will return the GOP to its conservative roots, and America back to its founding principles.

    In Liberty,

    John Tate
    President, Campaign for Liberty

  19. Well done for having put this together! Thank You!!!

    We’ve been advised to ‘go for Parliamentary scrutiny via the Treasury Select Committee’ and have recently held two meetings at the House of Commons again. See http://forumforstablecurrencies.wordpress.com/2009/04/26/apr-23-09-for-web-posterity/ and http://rm14.wordpress.com/april-23-2009/stories-cases/

    “Audit the Fed” needs to be paralleled by “Audit the BoE”, methinks.

    See also “Sovereignty & Seignorage – The Legal Privilege and a Financial Mechanism of Nation States” on http://greencredit.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/sovereignty-and-seignorage-report.pdf – based on the analysis of the online data base of the BoE.

    More power to everybody’s net-elbows!
    Sabine
    Organiser, Forum for Stable Currencies
    http://forumnews.wordpress.com

  20. Aaron Watkins says:

    Has anyone heard of the Zeitgeist and Zeitgeist Addendum movies? They’re documentary movies about monetary systems and it shows how the american central bank the federal reserve was swindled into place by bankers in about 1913. Just type ‘zeitgeist’ into google and it will be the first link on the search.

    • Mark Welsh says:

      Aaron, yes many of us have. And, for me, it is a vision of what we COULD be as a race and what we COULD achieve. For others they see it as almost an ad for the NWO!! They see it as talking about a one collaborative (and therefore communistic) world. They, therefore, see it as some hidden type of propaganda for the NWO.

      Personally, I don’t agree. They are, along with the Venus project, promoting a utopian world which is entirely within our capability but, sadly, not yet within our grasp until we somehow eradicate the existing monetary based framework of society and those who control it.

      Money is not the issue. The manipulation of it is.

  21. RedAlert says:

    MPs’ expenses – another weapon of mass distraction:

    Daily Telegraph goes on warpath against those venal (or just led to being gullible?) MPs and is followed by the red-tops (red – Cockney slang for money – Bolshevism – the red dragon – the lifeblood – etc etc).

    This is another ploy to take the public’s attention away from (i) the seriousness of the global economic crisis and (ii) its causes – the latter being principally the rowing of the money supply and government slackening off banking regulation in 1990s onwards. The banksters are feeling the heat of exposure. So they do their fair weather friend act on the politicos via the owned media like the DTs.

    Before the forthcoming Euro elections and also in any UK General Election that may be called imminently I suggest you contact the marginal parties who are touting themselves and apply the acid test of demanding what is their position on reforming the UK’s monetary basis and specifically regarding:

    – debt money – money being created through incurring debt which action leads to the need for an insatiable spiral of never ending ‘growth’ (see christmartenson.com) and the fact that interest on the debt is not created leading to increased bankruptcy exposure since all dues cannot be paid back if loans are retired and the money supply diminishes;
    – the removal of the vestiges of political control over the BoE in 1997 – why is the UK Government itself not creating all currency/money and why are the debentureholders of the BoE allowed to syphon off millions upon millions in a meaningless loop circuit in the money creation process;
    – fractional reserve / reserve asset based banking which is a Ponzi scheme allowing banks to lend out many more times the quantity of money they have received which gears their returns but creates an inherently unstable system – taxpayer is then shafted by the subsequent bailouts being financed out of taxes of this and future generations – more debt slavery.

    Unless and until the monetary basis of society in the West is sorted out and made more equitable we will continue to endure needless debt slavery and all that entails in terms of societal breakdown and personal misery.

    Does anyone know of a succinct form of words that encapsulates the vices of the UK money supply system – with suggested soultions (no gold backing please) – that could be sent to the new parties when they canvass? I forgo mention of the Lib/Lab/Con since history shows they know perfectly well what the issue is and will never address it.

  22. Vicky says:

    Labour- A party of the working class, when in it’s fold Fabians make up the majority of their numbers in Westmnister including ALL Labours Prime-Ministers?

    East India Company.

    The aims of the Fabian Society was developed by Webb, from what Englishman John Ruskin(1819-1900) taught at Oxford University. Ruskin, a teacher at the Working Men’s College(founded in 1854 by Christian-Socialist philosopher J. F. D. Maurice), a professor of Fine Arts at Oxford, an artist and writer, based his views on those of Socialist Robert Owen. He advocated a utopian society, and espoused theories developed from the teachings of Plato(428-347 BC), who studied under Socrates, and became the greatest philosopher in history. Plate established an academy which operated for 800 years, producing many great men, including Aristotle. In his work, The Republic, he outlined his ideal society, which was an aristocratic society ruled by the elite. It included the elimination of marriage and the family, and introduced selective breeding by the government, who would destroy all inferior offspring. In Plate’s utopia, sexual equality dictated that women would fight alongside the men in times of war.

    Shaw(whose mistress, Florence Farr, was a witch in the Order of the Golden Dawn), revealed that their goal was to be achieved by “stealth, intrigue, subversion, and the deception of never calling socialism by its right name.” In fact, that’s how they got their name. The name originated from the Roman Consul, General Quintus Fabius Maximus, the Cunctator ( ” Delayer ” ) , who through patient, cautious, delaying and elusive tactics, during the early phases of the Second Punic War(218-201 BC), enabled the Roman army to regroup and defeat Hannibal’s stronger Carthaginian army.

    The Fabians were working towards a new world, by indoctrinating young scholars who would eventually rise to power in various policy-making positions throughout the world; by infiltrating educational institutions, government agencies, and political parties. Their strategy was called the “doctrine of inevitability of gradualism,”

    CONTINUES BELOW..
    http://silverbearcafe.com/private/NWO/nwo4.html