Many people believe that the Bank of England is a privately owned corporation. Many people believe that it’s owned by the Rothchilds.
Neither of these beliefs is true.
The truth is much worse.
The story of the Bank of England is the story of the British Empire. The British Empire was never a political empire. It was always a monetary financial empire, as much a parasite on the people of Great Britain as the rest of the world. The idea of the Victorian’s British Empire bringing civilisation to the darkest parts of the world is one that needs real reconsideration by many Britons.
The Bank of England was originally set up as a core part of the British Empire – making huge profits from loans to the British East India Company and other tendrils of the Great British parasite. The mainstays of the trading activities of these companies were drugs, warfare and the looting of raw materials from poverty stricken nations.
As the banker to the Government, the Bank also did quite nicely from lending to the Treasury, thank you very much. In those days, the profits of the Bank went into the hands of the shareholders.
In 1844, the Rothschild inspired desire to take complete control of Britain came true with the Bank Charter Act. This gave the Bank of England the monopoly on the production of Sterling, and control of Britain’s money supply. In Northern Ireland and Scotland, where to this day commercial banks are allowed to print their own money, they must have one Bank of England note in reserve for every note of their own that they issue.
1946 brought the “nationalisation” of the Bank. At the end of WWII, Britain was more or less bankrupt, so it was agreed that instead of paying cash for the shares of the Bank, shareholders would receive 3% Treasury stock instead. With the 1946 Bank of England Act, all the Bank shares were transferred into the possession of the Treasury solicitor, and there they are to this day. It remains a corporation, not a government department.
In 1977, the Bank set up a wholly owned subsidiary called BANK OF ENGLAND NOMINEES LIMITED, (BOEN), a private limited company, no. 1307478, with 2 of its 100 £1 shares issued. According to its Memorandum & Articles of Association, its objectives are;-
“To act as Nominee or agent or attorney either solely or jointly with others, for any person or persons, partnership, company, corporation, government, state, organisation, sovereign, province, authority, or public body, or any group or association of them….”
Bank of England Nominees Limited was granted an exemption by Edmund Dell, Secretary of State for Trade, from the disclosure requirements under Section 27(9) of the Companies Act 1976 , because, “it was considered undesirable that the disclosure requirements should apply to certain categories of shareholders.”
Add that to the fact that the Bank of England is protected from prying eyes by its “Royal Charter” status and the Official Secrets Act. What have we got here?
In 1998, the final piece of the puzzle fell into place. In return for fixing the 1997 elections and getting New Labour into power, the Government enacted the 1998 Bank of England Act, which gave the Bank’s Court of Directors complete independence with regard to monetary policy.
So if we add this all together, we have a nationally owned institution which has the monopoly in the production of the national currency, and has independent control of the country’s monetary policy in the hands of a Court of Directors who serve the private banking system as they have since the Bank was established.
Think about it – private banking control of our currency and monetary policy, fully independent of government. When Gordon Brown signed away government oversight of the Bank, he committed Treason on a scale not seen in Britain since the Heath government took us into what would become the EU.
Since 1998 we have seen the Bank rapidly inflate the money supply, while at the same time relaxing regulation on how banks could lend. No longer were banks required to have cash in reserve for loans they made. Instead the vast majority of currency entering the economy did so as a result of commercial banks entering some numbers into a ledger – money out of thin air, literally.
Working for the private bankers, the Bank of England set things up to maximise the returns for their banking colleagues’ speculative activities, in the full knowledge that as a nationalised institution, it would be the UK taxpayer who was carrying all the risk, and not, as would have been the case before 1946, the shareholders.
The Court of Directors is working for the Anglo/Dutch/Saudi empire – the still-alive-and-kicking hidden hand behind the British Empire of the Victorian age. So it’s no surprise that the solution they provide to today’s manufactured monetary financial collapse is to print more money. Their aim is to destroy the last vestiges of British sovereignty; for a hyper-inflated and hyper-devalued Sterling to be replaced by a single, global, currency, under a single world fascist government.
Gordon Brown announced the new financial infrastructure at the G20. He announced the new global currency – to be issued and managed by the newly reinvigorated IMF.
This has to be stopped. It has to be stopped now. We want our country back, before there’s no country left. We want our country back from the parasites that use one square mile of London as their base of operations. Back in a way it hasn’t been for about 250 years. Join is in this fight – come to the next British Constitution Group conference in London on the 13th June, and find out what you can do.
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Thanks Mike. I was wondering when you’d get around to this.
If you remember when we spoke about it we touched on the BOEN and, while you say it isn’t OWNED outright by Rothschild, wouldn’t you agree that Rothschild will have a massive interest in the B of E still through the BOEN?
After all, Rothschild and Rockefeller simply are the Banking kings behind this whole fiasco (having the same privately controlled Federal Reserve that basically toppled the first domino on this financial crisis) and they stay out of the limelight while Joe Public is led to believe it is all down to the fatcats – these fatcats are purely scapegoats. The sooner the public recognise this the better.
I STILL repeat the Asia Times article of May 2003. It is like, to me, a smoking gun with fingerprints all over it! Don’t you agree?
Mike, is there any way I can tap into all the people coming on this site simply to ask them if they would support a mass communication asking some simple basic questions of our government/parliament. I truly believe that such questions which cannot logically be answered, would if nothing else, expose these people for what they are.
They cannot ignore a mass communication. If they did then they are showing their hand anyhow and we can use this to show an even greater mass of people.
The battle needs to be from all angles. You can state the truth so many times but what would also add strength to the simple statement is cornering these people.
Thoughts?
Rothschild absolutely has an interest in the Bank of England. Anyone can go to the Bank, have a look through the archives, and find the name of Rothschild on the list of past Bank directors.
As for BOEN, its activities are completely secret. Try getting your MP to ask a question about BOEN in Parliament.
The mass communication idea is a good one. Get yourself to the conference – we are working on this and other things. In the meantime, get people to contact us. The more the merrier. An email from them to me will get the ball rolling.
So who, besides Rothschild, are the beneficiaries of the BoE set-up? You say the Court of Directors are working for the Anglo/Dutch/Saudi empire, who are the directors and who heads up the Anglo/Dutch/Saudi empire? Organisations do not exist on their own, they are run by ‘people’ – who are these people?
13 bloodline families. Astor, Bundy, Collins, Dupont, Freeman, Kennedy, Li(Chinese), Onassis, Reynolds, Rockefeller, Rothschild, Russell, Van Duyn. Also the Merovingian line. The Rockefellers and the Rothschilds are the ones we see. They maybe the most powerful or they may only be the tip of the iceberg. Since one of the families is Chinese, “east” and “west” are an illusion. Bush, Obama, Cheney, Clinton, Gore, Brown, Blair, Putin, “Jewish” “leaders”, Arab “leaders”, European “leaders”, etc are just their puppets. They control the world from 3 city states each with their own obelisk. They are Washington, DC(military), inner city of London(financial) and the Vatican(Religion, all religions including atheism and secular humanism). They either own it or have infiltrated it.
There is a lot of credence in the 13 families theory,as first hypothesised by fritz springmeier.
talking of change,i dont think there will be any,it does`nt matter who you vote for,the government always get in.Cameron WILL be the next PM of the UK,he was in a society at Oxford which contained luminaries such as Boris Johnson(Mayor of London),but most worryingly a certain Nathan Rothschild,can i wager that he will be installed in Cameron`s government as an advisor on economic policy,he won`t be on the frontline,in the cabinet,but he will be in the background,where the Rothchilds operate most effectively.
The one essential thing that remains though is the voter in Britain still has a vote. That vote could get us out of the EU; it could reform the banking system and turn this country around. We have nuclear weapons, so no one will mess with us if we say we are serious about this.
The big weakness I see in all of this is that people get brainwashed and dumbed down, so they end up as automatons, and so the whole merry-go-round keeps on turning. If we can deal with the brainwashing then that is key. You can’t educate a brainwashed mind, it simply does not work. However you can let people know about this and then they will avoid the brainwashing and then they will educate themselves, tell others and then you stand a chance.
We already have the framework for an alternative government in place, but it needs people to back it. When the elections come the people will just get hypnotised to vote to keep the status quo in power. They are even putting mind-altering chemicals into the food now, e.g. Unilever’s new British research facility on tea. They tell us it promotes the brain into an alpha brainwave state that makes you more relaxed. Just add fluoride to the water and job done.
Add gluten, sugar, casein, aspartame, mono-sodium glutumate, genetically modified foods, hydrogenated fats and lord television to the ingredients (+ a mega dosage of electro magnetic interference from mobile phones, satellite etc) and it is clear we are experiencing chemical, biological and mental warfare on an unprecedented scale. This struggle is the defining point in our history as a species.
Peace be with you.
Gluttened, my problem with subscribing to that particular idea is that the elites are also susceptible. It doesn’t make sense therefore that they would carry out the same “warfare” on themselves does it?
They have holistic medicine. They have the technology to remove DU poison and other diseases from themselves. They instead give us “Western” medicine which is a poison in itself to only fight the symptoms instead of the disease.
Do the Royals get their prescriptions from Boots the chemists?
Do you still belieave in the BALLOT BOX or VOTING as its known.
This system has been RIGGED and CORRUPT since day one.
Go online and see how many of the idiots have been found guilty of this
over the last 20 years and it will shock you.
The current Political election process is a FARCE and if you think it works in your
favour then you are BRAINWASHED.
All 3 current Political main parties have the same hidden AGENDA’S and are controlled from behind the scene, as when there is a change of party all the civil servants and people in power who pull the strings stay in place…….what a joke.
We need a new form of GOVERNMENT one that a MR Ross Perot tried to set up in the USA in the 1980’s, and was Blackmailed into stepping out of the elections against G.Bush snr, go onto Wikepedia and read these facts.
This is based on a REFERENDUM type of Governing where all the people have a say and not just a few select ego maniacs .
If we dont all act soon WE WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO CHANGE THE CURRENT CORRUPT SYSTEM.
A New ONE WORLD ORDER IS ARRIVING SOON ….don’t say I didn’t warn you all!!!
Leveller, I think you’ll find that we all agree with you bud! So hop on board and help out would you?
Baron you are on the money with the brainwashed and dumbed down thing. I would never have believed (and still find it hard to believe) how conditioned and dumbed down so many of us are. I believe it could be the majority!!
Trying to get through to people (even just one) is a full time job. And if they aren’t brainwashed or dumb then they either witch off out of sheer apathy or they just won’t/can’t believe what you’re telling them EVEN with a mass of absolute factual evidence!
It’s truly scary how people are! I feel sometimes like I live in some kind mass conditioned “Twilight Zone”.
I totally agree! it becomes exhausting trying to get through to people. i becomes exhausting to constantly be on the recieving end of the masses who will stop at nothing to mock me, deride me, belittle me, and tell me i have “lost my mind”. how ironic, it is just that i have found my mind! They are the ones who have truly lost their own minds thanks to brainwashing left right and centre. For a while
i think the thing that most scares me is how much people rationalise about some of the things that they hear (without investigating the truth), when they hear something that goes beyond what they want to think about they just make up some reason that whatever it is that happened and put it down to that , just so they don`t have to deal with it , i come across that all the time with some people .
i know exactly what you mean Liz with regards to people mocking /deriding , its very sad that people mock without doing an ounce of research into anything , as has been noted it is the height of ignorance . just tell them to go and read Tragedy and Hope by Quigley at least they might learn something when they go google it
The problem there Stone is that you can guide a horse to water….
Most of the types who mock/deride I feel do it in desperation, apathy or simple ignorance and the last thing they will do (when it is possible they haven’t read a book in their lives worth reading) will read Tragedy & Hope. People seem to have lost all sense of depth and consideration and a hunger for any knowledge except what is spoon fed to them.
meanwhile, another book you can find online which a heavily recommend to anyone who questions anything discussed here wrt the New World Order, financing both sides of wars, the Federal Reserve and our hidden but real history:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/4368440/None-Dare-call-it-conspiracy
It is astonishing and was debated in our own Parliament regarding its content because as was pointed out: “People who read it will never sign up to fight a war again”.
It was hushed up by the US and the UK because of the truth it spits out.
absolutely Mark i couldn`t agree with you more about None Dare Call It Conspiracy , that is a superb book , I`ve got a copy of that one too , i`ve actually finished that one
whereas i`m only about a third of the way through Tragedy and Hope !
however i do reccommend reading it or at least doing some net research on it though because Quigley packs a punch mainly imo because of who he was and what he had access to, and he is pretty much undebunkable to even the biggest skeptic .
you are right about it being too much for someone who is new to this info and you do need to have knowledge of books to suit whoever you are talking to .
it is interesting to know that it was debated in Parliament though do you have any more info on that ?
cheers
DEFENCEHL Deb 26 June 1979 vol 400 cc1357-476
Lord MACLEOD of FUINARY
“Nor is it just for money. How many people know another American book of yesteryear by Garry Allen called None Dare Call it Conspiracy? It has sold over 3½ million copies in the United States. Its contents are one reason why more and more young Americans just are not going to play, if a war comes. This book points out not merely that it was the German bankers, Warburg Brothers, who put up £25 million to put Lenin in power in Russia, and who also assisted Trotsky to go from the United 1450 States to join him, but that they also sold nuclear armaments to Russia, not just to get money but to control the Communists so that, if they gain permanent power, the bankers will control them by the vast sums which they are owed back by Russia. The book is, chapter and verse, about foundations; it is chapter and verse about persons, well-known names; it is chapter and verse about the Council of Foreign Relations; and it is chapter and verse about Bilderberg Conferences in Europe—names and all, open to a hundred occasions for criminal libel, which somehow has never been brought. The address where that book can be obtained in this country is: KRP Publications, 245 Cann Road, London, E.11.”
Also note the following: IF, as they say, Bilderberg is JUST a “talking shop” with no policy decisions (the latter being true because policy is set at the lower CFR/RIIA/Trilateral levels BASED on the Bilderberg outcomes) then WHY, as with certain Trilateral documents, are THESE documents confidential under the 30 year rule AND one of them should be open by now:
Portcullis: UK Parliament website.
Papers of Arthur Edward Alexander Shackleton, Baron Shackleton (1911-1994) MP
RefNo S/214
Title Bilderberg Conference
Date 1979
Level File
AccessStatus Closed
ClosedUntil 01/01/2010
Location 36
Papers of Arthur Edward Alexander Shackleton, Baron Shackleton (1911-1994) MP
RefNo S/228
Title Bilderberg Conference
Date 1977
Level File
AccessStatus Closed
ClosedUntil 01/01/2008
Location 36
I totally empathise – it’s a parallel universe and pretty scary walking around with the zombies. I have tried to explain to people who are very intelligent and it blows my mind that they don’t get it. Perhaps we could all get together on an island some place and blow the rest of the planet. Oh sorry, I forgot, they own every piece of land in one way or another. Perhaps we could squat. There must be something we can do.
Yes Sharon there is something we can do and that island you talk about is this one. Because you can’t run away from the NWO. It’s got to be fought HERE! Don’t say “CAN’T”. That’s what they want you to say.
I agree with you Mark and I’m ready to join in but don’t we need a plan 1st?
The reason that the public bury their heads in the sand, is because they can’t stand the truth. Can you imagine any American citizen actually ever believing – even with concrete proof – that their goverment MAY have been involved in the September 11 2001 ‘terrorist’ attack on the World Trade Centre ?
MARK WELSH is so right !
Whenever I talk to people (singly or in groups) about what is happening, politically, economically, socially or mentally, their eyes GLAZE OVER! Honestly !
They either cannot take it on board or they’ve been brainwashed to accept the status quo and reject any “New Thinking” . Add on the soaps, the stupid American childrens’ tv programmes and you nearly have George Orwell’s 1984 (in 2009 ).
IF we get a hung parliament in the next general election, then the fringe parties may well hold the balance of power (including the Independents). Perhaps we could lobby these MPs PERSONALLY ? JUST A THOUGHT !
I’ve long advocated voting Independents in Local Elections.
Whatever you plan to do you can count me in. I long ago came to the conclusion that the best chance of ‘waking people up’ to the NWO agenda was to expose the iniquity of the banking system. So much so that I resolved to do a video on the subject. I have to say it’s been a slog but I also managed to uncover the information you refer to in your post. What possible reason can there be for not allowing us to know who the shareholders of the BOEN are? Apart from the Rothschild I would assume the Queen has her fingers in the pie.
I’ve almost finished the script but there remains one question I haven’t answered to my satisfaction. Perhaps someone can help.
Two of the videos that inspired me to do more research on the subject of banking were ‘The Money Masters’ and ‘Money as Debt’. Both state that when banks create money for a loan they don’t simultaneously create the interest. The consequence being that there is never enough money in the system to pay all outstanding debts. Hence the need for economic growth or constant expansion of the money supply through more debt creation; the inevitable and eventual bust resulting in a significant number of people or businesses unable to pay their loans back. This position appears to be backed up by a quote from Belgian economist and former central banker, Bernard Lietaer, when he said:
“Money is created when banks lend it into existence. When a bank provides you with a $100,000 mortgage, it creates only the principal, which you spend and which then circulates in the economy. The bank expects you to pay back $200,000 over the next 20 years, but it doesn’t create the second $100,000 – the interest. Instead, the bank sends you out into the tough world to battle against everybody else to bring back the second $100,000.”
However another inspiration, G. Edward Griffin, author of ‘The Creatures From Jekyll Island’, states that this is not how things work. He says as the loan is being paid off a proportion of that is not extinguished but is retained by the bank as profit ie the interest. This then gets spent into the economy in some way. In this way the lender earns the necessary money from the general money supply now boosted by the banks profit on the loan. He makes the point that:
“… in many ways this is worse than the assumption that the bank doesn’t create the money for the interest payment as it is a form of modern serfdom in which the great mass of society works as indentured servants to a ruling class of financial nobility.”
My puzzle is that banks would not spend anything but a small part of their profit into the economy in the form of wages, building maintenance, new computer systems etc. The rest, as company profits, may be retained in their account. Most likely becoming the asset base for new loans via the fractional reserve system. Would this still count as being part of the money supply, or do the producers of the two videos have a (partial) point?
There is another question. If the money they create from nothing then lend out, is extinguished when it is paid back (with only the interest increasing the long term money supply) how does this work in regards to the national debt? I’m aware that this never gets repaid. Presumably because it’s in the banks interests in order for them to continue earning their interest on the loans. Does this mean that if the loans were to be paid back it would, in line with what Griffin suggests, be extinguished? I’ve become aware of many absurdities with regards to banking since I began my research but if this is true then it tops the lot. We ‘owe’ the banks over £1 trillion and climbing; money they largely created from nothing and that will be extinguished if it ever were to be repaid. Is this why the banks are only too happy to let the national debt climb to record levels? The higher the debt the more the interest payments.
Any help or advice gratefully received.
I’ll leave you with one more quote I found from historian Sir Arthur Bryant:
“The exercise of the right inherent in every sovereign state of creating and issuing a sufficiency of money to make financially possible what is physically possible and morally desirable, would enable as much real wealth to be brought into existence as, with its immense inventive and scientific potential, it is capable of making”.
you should research bankruptcy laws..I think after 70 something years all debts are cancelled (although I have been getting mixed responses on this )..why then does our government continually run to the banks for more when the debt is cleared ?…Why as Aaronn Russo asked does our government with the ability to print money (HAH its a joke to call it money ) borrow it from banks instead..answer those questions and you will eventually come to only one logical conclusion..I will leave you to follow the trail yourself
Not sure if this answers your question but when you boil it all down to absolute basics, since our money is not backed by Gold, it is Worthless paper.
Westminster Borrows this Worthless paper aT FULL FACE VALUE from the likes of Rothschild who Print it out of thin air, Westminster then forces us to Work and pay income tax to pay back this totally uneccessary loan.
Go easy on the Masses, they are not taught about money at school, it took me ages to realise too and the scale of this Treachery is almost beyond comprehension.
It is rather like asking a child if he believes his mummy would ever murder him, of course the answer is going to be no.
In our case though, our Parent ( Govt ( is doing exactly this, or at least enslaving us to totally unnecesarry loans through taxation.
This act alone Proves beyond any doubt that Westminster ( at least as far as Party Leadership is concerned ) is a charade, the Leadership of all three Parties are bought and paid for, Blair, Brown, Osborne are all Bilderberg atendees..
Even in the US, Ron paul says he still has Congressmen who ask him, is it true that our money is no longer backed by Gold.
Similarly in the UK, I doubt many MP’s realise what we all know.
We Borrow this money ( which the Banksters conjure up out of thin air ) by issuing Gilts, like so much of their evil, it is always hidden behind an extra layer to make the issue more complex, they know this of course, but if you ask yourself,
If our money is essentially worthless, then why Print the Gilts, why not Just Print the Money instead, then we wouldnt have to pay it back through our Income Tax.
I’m no economist but had we Printed ourselves EXACTLY the same amount of money as we had Borrowed over the Past decades, there would be no loans to pay back, No Govt Debt ( how much is it now our children owe ) and hence absolutely No Need for Income tax at all.
Essentially we could Print / Coin our own money, declare it legal tender and use it to pay the Police, the Armed Services, Nurses etc, they in turn would spend this in Supermarkets, restaurants, etc.
No loan to pay back, no Govt debt. no need for taxes.
It is no accident that Income tax came in at the same time as the Bof E was given its charter, here and in 1913 in the US.
Essentially, and in reality, we are enslaved. There is simply no need to pay income tax.
So it could work, and this ‘money’ would not have to be paid back, such a system is Not ideal because it means Banks, Govts can conjure it up out of thin air, it would require absolute transparency.
The best form of money is of course a precious metal based system. with this, Govts, nor Banks can manipulate the money supply for their own ends like they are doing now.
Money is thin air, westminster goes through the charade of borrowing it to enslave us to their Masters, the likes of Rockefeller, the Morgans etc.
The previous poster is correct, the bankers getting demonised now are in effect not the bad guys, they were allowed to take these risks, in fact even if they had made the Best decisions possible, the Banksters were always going to crash the system to bring us to our kness and usher in their New World Order ( based on the chinese model )
they are sacrificial lambs being slaughtered to make it look like Govt is on our side.
Here is how the BofE has conspired with other Banks to syphon the Nations wealth ever upwards.
Firtst, the PRIVATE BofE lowers interest rates, the Other Banks then lend out Money
which is essentially conjured up out of thin air, at the Very best it is fractionally reserved
IE for every £1000 pound they lend out, they only have to actually have £100.
Then when enough people have been hooked on this thin air Credit, the Bof E and Govt say, oh deary me, look at the state of the economy, we shall have to increase interest rates.
Those who have overextended themselves and can no longer pay thet higher rates , have their assets seized, the Banks sell these assets off cheap at auction then use the money to buy up REAL Assets.
Or they Buy Gold, Silver Precious metals, you dont expect them to keep paper money do you, its worthless paper, that would be stupid.
Then just rinse and repeat until most of the Nations Wealth is syphoned up into the Offshore Vaults of a few Wealthy elites.
Boom and Bust.
Now you understand why gordon Brown swapped a 900Tonne Pile of our Gold for a Pile of Worthless paper Euros.
He was essentially handing it to his paymasters, after all who actually Prints the Euros out of thin air, the Offshore Central Banks, they have the Gold, we have the worthless IOU’s.
Ron Pauls Campaign for Liberty Youtube channel is worth Subscribing to and has a few Videos worth watching.
http://www.youtube.com/user/campaignforliberty
I am in total agreement. Any good ideas to replace this madness would require the cooperation of the majority or at least a significant minority. For example, in the US at the moment there are certain states that are creating their own currency based on earnings in respect of hours worked which have a value placed on them. They have managed to persuade businesses to accept this currency so people can still buy food, fuel, etc. Even certain banks have become involved. Obviously the best solution would be to abolish money completely. It’s not as mad as it sounds – check out the Venus Project (featured in Zeitgeist Addendum). They have come up with a replacement system which is completely realistic and about as perfect as it is possible to be.
I believe the best way to break the current system is through non-violent cooperation, ie. simply stop cooperating with the system (get off the machine), don’t go to work (stock up on food beforehand – you won’t need more than a weeks worth). I guarantee that after about 2 or 3 days the gov. will be begging us to return to work and that’s when we put forward our conditions. It maybe that some necessary workers such as doctors & nurses will still need to show up but that’s OK. Not using the banks and turning off the TV is also a good idea. Again, this will only work if enough people go along with it and therein lies the problem. But at least there is one possible solution should we ever get to the point where people are prepared to take action.
Sharon. In principle it’s all workable. In practice we need NUMBERS. The Venus project is really quite wonderful and entirely do-able. But stages. It couldn’t just be “let’s do this tomorrow”.
FIRST thing (and I know people will have issues with it but I’m just talking principle here for now) is abolish the stranglehold that is placed on the Bank of England. Take a look at Guernsey. They produced their own money for decades and guess what? It worked beautifully as I understand it. Not a debt!!
Now if ANY politician can tell you why THAT worked and yet it can’t work here is talking bull. Lincoln and others knew exactly what the bankers would do to America. And they’ve been proven 100% correct.
They have to dodge bullets a lot though but I’m prepared to do that!
Can you imagine starting at that point then restructuring the UK with OUR OWN money and reinvesting in such venus projects all over the UK. Retraining people. Getting them back into work with all the projects?
Yeah “you may call me a dreamer but I’m not the only one”.
It would work!
This seems a very civilised forum :
Perhaps we should recert to the old system used in the usa known as Colonial Scrip
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A study of American Colonial history will reveal that Benjamin Franklin went to England as a representative of the Colonies.
The English officials asked how it was the Colonies managed to collect enough taxes to build poor houses, and how they were able to handle the great burden of caring for the poor. Franklin’s reply was most revealing: “We have no poor houses in the Colonies, and if we had, we would have no one to put in them, as in the Colonies there is not a single unemployed man, no poor and no vagabonds.” Think long and hard about this. In the American colonies before the American Revolution, there was “not a single unemployed man, no poor and no vagabonds”. — no one on Welfare, no one on Social Security, no homeless, no income tax, no alphabet agencies, No IRS, BATF, FBI, DEA, CIA, HEW, OSHA, SBA, and on and on and on to provide for the “general welfare” of our villages, towns, cities and states. How did Benjamin Franklin explain this to the British officials of his day?
How would he explain it to today’s lawyers, judges, politicians and other government officials? “It is because, in the Colonies, we issue our own paper money. We call it Colonial Script, and we issue only enough to move all goods freely from the producers to the Consumers; and as we create our money, we control the purchasing power of money, and have no interest to pay.”
-Benjamin Franklin
It is also worth reading Louis Mcfadden and his still outstanding challenge to the FED
see link http://home.hiwaay.net/~becraft/mcfadden.html
I saw a brief video on the banking system and the city of London, which named the Rothchilds,Warburg,Schiff and Oppenheimer as the main stockholders of the BOE. Apparently the Rothchilds took control of most of the London Stock Exchange after Napoleon defeat at the Battle of Waterloo.
JFK could see the scam the Fed was operating and decided on introducing an American Dollar – some are still apparently in circulation – against the Fed Dollar.
Well, we all know what happened to him.
Wiggins, I read about JFK doing that too but then I read a debunk of that particular issue and when I followed up on the documents that supported it I honestly couldn’t come to the conclusion that JFK was introducing an American dollar at all.
If there is something more substantive which supports that he was I’d be keen to see it.
Maybe, but Abe Lincoln definitely was ‘outed’ when he introduced the ‘Greenback’.
Money equates to assets, and the psychological value placed on those assets. A lot of financial people are very mathematical, and so they will value stuff according to its utility. For example, a machine that makes twice as many widgets in an hour is more valuable than one that doesn’t. Then of course you have the other valuers of assets, the consumer, and they are not so mathematical. They will place high values on things that are not.
Anyway, the point being that the money supply should reflect the value of the assets it represents. Now we have a natural increase in overall value as science and technology make it possible to produce better, faster and stronger things much quicker. I think that traditionally this stands at about 2% per year. Some people say the answer is to back the currency by gold, because gold is a stable representation of value, but it is not possible to do this completely since gold is only a small fraction of the entire world’s assets. So you have to have some form of a fractional reserve system, and I do think that what is popularly put about on the Internet about money being created from nowhere is misleading.
It’s far more complex than that and economists have debated about this for centuries. Indeed some also talk about private banking as being wrong, but would you rather have a government do your banking for you? I somehow don’t think that you would, and it is because we then find ourselves asking for a socialist system. Private banks and all other private financial businesses are fine with one condition, and that condition is the most important thing of them all. There must be a lot of them, indeed so many that if one went bust there would not be any noticeable change in the overall market. What we must have is a free market, and we don’t have one of those at the moment, and everytime there is a merger it becomes less and less free. When Brown starts intervening and nationalising banks things can only get worse. (Remember the Labour 97 election song, translated from Orwellian to English.)
I agree with Sankara: I am mad enough to think that AIR and WATER should be the things that back up any currency and not GOLD or GNP or GDP or money created from plastic.
Simply allocate a certain qubic amount of AIR and WATER to each person in a given country, region or even on a world scale: Lets say that everyone “owns” the asset known as “10 qubic feet of AIR and WATER”: we use this asset as a guarantee to pay back whatever we “borrow” from it in the form of whatever token of credit we decide upon (its all numbers anyway).
In order to draw upon this asset, we must promise to keep our own 10 cubic feet of AIR and WATER clean form any contamination: for example, if I cause my asset to diminish in quality or cause my neighbor’s asset to diminish in quality, my “drawing” power will diminish proportionately. If I completely destroy my allottment of AIR and WATER I will then become the property of the state until such time as it takes to restore the “cleaness” of my original allotted asset.
I am mad enough to think that with my “out-of-the-box” idea, there will be no inflation or deflation associated with AIR and WATER as a backing for monetary tokens. –jws
The Rothschilds now only own 57% of the non FederalReserve according to sourc.es but The Royal Institute for International Affairs owns the CFR, Rockefeller paid for the CFR building right next to the Fed. Reserve.The Ford foundation and Carrnegie foundation with New York directors hyjacked the Interest and directed it to support the CFR. contrary to the founders.
Also, the Rothchilds plan to buy out Canary Wharf later this year. Interesting…….
Really? I wonder if they’re thinking of taking a leaf out of the Larry Silverstein manual on “How to insure oneself against highly unlikely scenarios with astronomical odds of ever happening but…. “
Yes, its true indeed, I will try and find the original article (or link to).
NWO – Take note.
You’ve pushed too far. Now the questions begin from the great unwashed who have not been drinking the fluoridated Koo-AId. The Fabian turtle is moving too fast and we can see what’s been going on.
“I’m as mad as hell and I’m not going to take it anymore!.” – Peter Finch in the 1976 film ‘Network’.
“When people lose everything, they have nothing to lose – and then they lose it.” – Gerald Celente 2008
“Keep pushing baby, keep pushing……….as push back time is now here. The people will hang you from the street lamps as they wake up. And awakening they are……….” Steve Wright 2009 (Info Warrior)
Steve, Like the attitude man!
Funny you should say that but :-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5dtpR10tTQ&feature=channel_page
Yes, yes, yes – I’m with you all the way but first how do we immobilise the police and the army? If you’ve got the answer to that one I’ll meet you anywhere you like.
Sharon, there MUST be men and women some of us know who’s family members are in the forces and who see all of this?
I was on another forum for instance where I was posting and a woman in Scotland was initially very sceptical but, unknown to me, she then started checking things out for hereself and came back to me later and said she couldn’t believe it and now sees it while her son is in Afghanistan and she’s been through every emotion (and immense anger) that she can think of.
So, who knows what she’s saying to her son?
Our troops are being used (and have been used) as cannon fodder in all wars THINKING (being conditioned because even most of the top brass believed it) they are fighting “for Queen and Country”. IF they just could grasp the truth of it!!
Well, let’s hope that mother has spread the word and that it spreads really fast. I do know some people who were in the navy and when I explained the facts of life to them they said that the problem is that they are trained to kill whoever they are ordered to kill. I asked them if they thought they would turn on their own people and they said yes. I also heard a program recently where a member of the military confirmed this. He said that each member of the armed forces were asked individualy whether they would have a problem shooting their own people. I assume those that said no were dealt with in a different way.
I have also heard that they are going to be using robot soldiers which is pretty scary.
Having said all of that, I am more hopeful now than I have been in the past simply because more people seem to be waking up day by day. It maybe just a matter of time.
I do get the impression that the banksters at the top are losing their power and we are about to see some crazy stuff going on. We sure do live in interesting times.
Great article … eye opening to see that it has become what the FED is in the US… End The Fed … Push for Exposing the FED with Ron Paul’s HR1207, joe
Thanks for your article Mike.
I say follow the money. In 1946 the Bank was not actually nationalised (as you indicated), but there was a stock swap! The shareholders of BOE turned in their shares, and in return were issued “Government Stock” that paid interest, in return and in addition to that they STILL kept 75% of the spoils of running the bank, from 1946, 1966 and even after 1998! It’s a sweet deal, because even though UK PLC is not exactly a desirable company to own these days because of ransacking at the hands of successive governments (directors), this stock paid a dividend, rain or shine:
From the BOE act of 1946:
1.
Transfer of Bank stock to Treasury.
— (1) On the appointed day —
(a)
the whole of the existing capital stock of the Bank (hereinafter referred to as “ Bank stock ” ) shall, by virtue of this section, be transferred, free of all trusts, liabilities and incumbrances, to such person as the Treasury may by order nominate, to be held by that person on behalf of the Treasury;
(b)
the Treasury shall issue, to the person who immediately before the appointed day is registered in the books of the Bank as the holder of any Bank stock, the equivalent amount of stock created by the Treasury for the purpose (hereinafter referred to as the “ Government stock ” ).
Voila, stock swap, otherwise known as “shell game” This way the Gov could claim that the BOE had been “nationalised”, because yes, the stock had been transferred to them, however the shareholders now had stock in the parent company in return! So now my question is, what percentage of the outstanding shares of UK PLC are held by these maggots, and how does it affect the way the directors vote?
Note that in the 1946 act, there is provision for a redemption “at par”. Now you might be thinking that means for cash. Actually I think it means swapping back for the original shares of BOE at that time (April 5th 1966 – anyone see a coincidence here?). However they could only do so having published intention to do so by having published intention in the London Gazette at least 3 months prior. Does anyone have the time/access/motivation to research the archives of the Gazette to find out if anyone did? If so, it would be a way to find out shareholdings…
There is ONE SIMPLE WAY of finding this out. FORGET the research – DEMAND that the people of this country know the answer. Get enough signatures of enough people who KNOW what this all means and what it’s about and DEMAND our government come clean on this.
Why on EARTH does a bank (any bank anywhere) require partial documentations relating to shareholdings to come under the Official Secrets Act etc? It is PATENTLY ridiculous, deceptive and, you can be sure, for GOOD reason!
The problem is that not enough people even know this or recognise what it means. They HAVE to know and they HAVE to join up with us and DEMAND the answers. The Government tell us the B of E is “Publicly owned” and the Public think that means WE own it. It’s WAKE UP time!
As for the B of E now being like the Fed. It’s the other way around in reality. The Fed was built ON the fundamentals of how the B of E worked.
This article is bang on, the only problem it seems is that people still keep refering to “Money” when their is no such thing, its an illusion like pulling a rabbit from a hat, it is the greatest slight of hand ever concocted, and while we keep chasing the illusion we keep the “FRAUD” going by our actions we are the culprits, Fraud is Fraud end of story,
every inch of the British System supported by the public, has created mayhem world wide and is draped in the”Blood” of the Innocent in Irag, Afganistan, and world wide to create mayhem in the name of the British people, to support the “Fraudlent Bankers” the Arms Industry, this whole system which is built on corruption and aided and abetted by the pillars of society, but yet we remain silent and by our silence we condone it, every miniute and second while we remain on this planet and do not do something about it we are helping these monsters, we would all be asleep and most of the people out their are still if it was not for one of your greatest assets, who has been telling you about what is now happening to you for over 20 years David Icke who had to suffer ridicule for years from his own people for his honesty, and still continues the battle to keep exposing the gangsters, remember the Jack Booted front line soldiers are allready in position and you are looking at them everyday on your streets, your whole life is now under threat you are being eaten from the inside as well as the outside at every level, you have stayed asleep in still believeing that you were top dog and that everything was rosy in the garden and while the dream was being planted the gangsters were at work eating you alive while you were being distracted and running after the illusion of wealth, grandeur, which was pushing you further and further into their clutches, and now they have you where they want you watch will happen next because if you do not wake up you will be destroyed, and try asking the Jack Booted front line who will come for you to stop and then see what his reply will be
It’s just a pity David Icke went down some of the “esoteric” channels he did and continues to. I personally don’t hold that against him but, unfortunately, for the masses it detracts from the absolute gem of investigating he has done on all of this through the years. He deserves a lot of thanks.
Old article now, but relevant none the less:
http://henryckliu.com/page178.html
HENRY CK LIU:
“… The invasive dominance of monetarism in macroeconomics has been total ever since central bankers, led by Alan Greenspan, who from 1987 to 2006 was Chairman of the Board of Governors of the US Federal Reserve, the head of the global central banking snake by virtue of dollar hegemony, embraced the counterfactual conclusion of Milton Friedman that monetarist measures by the central bank can perpetuate the boom phase the business cycle indefinitely, banishing the bust phase from finance capitalism altogether. Going beyond Friedman, Greenspan asserted that a good central bank could perform monetary miracle by simply adding liquidity to maintain a booming financial market by easing quantitatively at the slightest hint of market correction, ignoring the fundamental law of finance that if liquidity is exploited to manipulate excess debt as phantom equity on a global scale, liquidity can act as a flammable agent to turn a simple localized credit crunch into a systemic fire storm. …
LEST WE FORGET – (with my emphases**):
Posted: 2006-02-02 00:15:55+05:30 IST
Updated: Feb 02, 2006 at 0015 hrs IST
GREENSPAN TO ADVISE BROWN ON GLOBAL ECONOMY
“London, Feb 1 (2006): Newly retired US Federal Reserve chairman Alan Greenspan has agreed to be honorary adviser to British finance minister Gordon Brown on
global economic change, **
the Treasury said on Wednesday. Greenspan, who stepped down on Tuesday after nearly 19 years of running the US central bank, has long enjoyed a close professional relationship with Chancellor of the Exchequer Brown.
“I am delighted that Dr Greenspan has agreed to be honorary adviser. His advice on issues relating to
global economic change**
will be much appreciated,” said Brown. In December, the British finance minister hosted a special meeting of Group of Seven finance ministers and central bankers in London to pay tribute to Greenspan whom he has long revered as
“the rock of stability upon which today’s global economy is built.” ** ”
—Reuters
http://www.financialexpress.com/news/greenspan-to-advise-uks-brown-on-global-economy/149637/
Since the 19th Century, the Rothschilds have owned Reuters too and it’s said that they acquired Associated Press within the last 20 years. Of course, they are also ‘Keepers of the Vatican Purse’ which along with their ‘links’ to the Fed and the BoE pretty much provides the ‘joinder’ imo. Oh, and don’t forget Veolia who have taken over all those council refuse contracts for 25 years – that’s Rothschild too!
“Where there’s muck, there’s brass” as the old saying goes.
Here’s a terrific 16 part ‘all time classic’ expose of the Illuminati and CFR from Myron Fagan:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7Uqn09DUPU
Thanks for another brilliant article Mike and for the chance to ’sound off’ amongst like minds.
The REAL PIRATES are the ones who have hijacked ‘the system’ – you know, the ones we pay our taxes to to supposedly have our best interests at heart…….sigh
Re Greenspan, Soros and all the other “great” investors who we admire for their ability to beat the market:
Paulson & Co. is run by John Paulson. His hedge fund has generated massive returns over the past two years, as he bet against financials and all things subprime. One of his funds was even up 589%. Most recently, he has profited by shorting U.K. banks.
A hedge fund is an investment fund open to a limited range of investors that is permitted by regulators to undertake a wider range of investment and trading activities than other investment funds and pays a performance fee to its investment manager.
As the name implies, hedge funds often seek to offset potential losses in the principal markets they invest in by hedging their investments using a variety of methods, most notably short selling.
And get this:
Hedge funds are typically open only to a limited range of professional or wealthy investors. This provides them with an exemption in many jurisdictions from regulations governing short selling, derivative contracts, leverage, fee structures and the liquidity of interests in the fund.
Now look at the Paulson & Co website. It has moved BUT read what the page says.
Why all the secrecy? Why are such funds limited to certain investors? We’ll always be told it’s due to the risk involved and they are protecting us right? LOL
So why are there Casinos everywhere?
It’s because these funds are the ones that transfer the wealth of the working man and the middle classes to those with the mass of wealth and the wish to further increase that wealth while removing it from you and I. It is for those who are advised it is now time to have a financial meltdown.
You just need to look at the names involved and ask yourself the question “How did they know to take these immense risks when noone else was meant to have known?
Just keep that question in your head and don’t let ANYONE tell you they’re just lucky and have wonderful computer and mathematical models. That is BULLSH*T and you know better than that.
It’s because those in the know, know. And they are screwing us!
Well think of this. When Alan Greenspan is on board from Jan 2008 while he was Fed Reserve chairman up until 2006, guess what info he’ll have at his fingertips? And you can just guess the people who will be investing in these funds right? Absolute knowledge of the impending disaster before them. Wouldn’t YOU short the subprimes and the banks?
http://www.paulsonco.com/logon.asp
Paulson & Co. Inc. Appoints Alan Greenspan as Member of Advisory Board
01/15/2008
Paulson & Co. Inc. announced its retention of Dr. Alan Greenspan, former chairman of the Federal Reserve Board, as a member of its advisory board. Dr. Greenspan will provide ongoing advice to Paulson’s investment management team by sharing his perspective on issues affecting the financial markets. This will be an exclusive arrangement, insofar as Dr. Greenspan will not enter into a similar consulting arrangement with any other hedge fund while he is working with Paulson & Co. Inc. Dr. Greenspan served as Chairman of the U.S. Federal Reserve Board for 18 years, from 1987 until 2006 over four presidential administrations.
ALL RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF YOUR VERY EYES.
100% CRIMINALS.
Do you not source aarticles on this website
Not Bank of England BUT a view of the Bank of Iceland and the connections:
David Oddsson
During his almost 14 years as Prime Minister, Davíð became acquainted with, or friend of, many Western leaders, including Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, Václav Klaus and Silvio Berlusconi. He has occasionally attended the meetings of the Bilderberg Group, and he has read a paper to the Mont Pelerin Society. But he only served as Minister of Foreign Affairs for one year. In the autumn of 2005, Davíð announced that he would leave politics. He said that he felt that the time had come for a new generation to take over.
Bilderberg Group: David Oddsson – Committee of Ministers, Council of Europe 2005
In October 2005, Davíð was appointed the Governor of the Central Bank of Iceland. Following the collapse of the Icelandic banking system in the autumn of 2008, the nation was forced to ask for financial help from the International Monetary Fund and friendly nations. The economic policy driven by the Independence Party, based on market liberalisation and privatisation, is widely regarded as responsible for the collapse. Consequently, there were public calls for his dismissal. Following protests outside the Central Bank, the new Prime Minister Jóhanna Sigurðardóttir requested that Davíð and his two fellow governors resign. He refused this request but on February 26th, 2009, following changes to the laws concerning the Central Bank, Davíð was replaced by the Norwegian economist Svein Harald Øygard.
Look here and you will see that the Icelandic banks piled on their issues from guess when? 2003 onwards (see Graph 1).
http://www.economist.com/world/europe/displaystory.cfm?story_id=12762027
The following was written by a writer with access to inside information shortly before Oddsson started entering Bilderberg meetings:
”Can you imagine what will happen if Los Angeles is hit with a 9.0 quake, New York City is destroyed by a terrorist-planted atomic bomb, World War III breaks out in the Middle East, the banks and the stock markets collapse, Extraterrestrials land on the White House lawn, food disappears from the markets, some people disappear, the Messiah presents himself to the world, and all in a very short period of time ? Can you imagine ? The world power structure can, and will if necessary, make some or all of those things happen to bring about the New World Order.”
p. 177 – 178 “Behold a pale horse” by M. William Cooper, 1990
Now the banks, stock market and currency of Iceland have collapsed and the food supply for the winter is in no way secured. The name of the World Power structure is – Bilderberg. What a coincidence that Oddsson was a long time member before all those troubles started.
Each and every little Bilderberg influence should be extracted from David Oddsson to give a good indication of why what happened happened.
• Davíð Oddsson (Bilderberg Conference attendee dates confirmed 1987, 1991, 1992, 1994, 1997, 1999), Prime Minister of Iceland (1991 – 2004), chairman of the board of the Central Bank of Iceland since 2005.
i`ve just heard that the Bilderberg group are meeting in Greece on the 14th to the 17th may , i hope that the Greeks find out about it before then so that they get a chance to turn up in great numbers
Yes. I wonder if Alex Jones will make a trip? Probably not but yeah the Greeks all fired up would be good. Anyone know of any good greek websites where we may advise them if they don’t already know about it?
The Bilderberg needs to be demolished.
i don`t think he`s going but he`s going to get daily reports from the man on the ground Jim Tucker , he also mentioned that Daniel Estulin has some very interesting info from a couple of Bilderberg members but couldn`t say anything yet …?
so it makes me wonder if there are going to be a few interesting defections coming up , we`ll just wait and see.
i think that idea of looking for some good Greek sites to post on is a very good one , get going everyone !
Has everyone seen this? Marcy Kaptur Democrat Congresswoman Ohio State.
It’s “awesome” as our American cousins would say and it SHOULD be viral!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5GkbZtDE5I
Another “Ron Paul”. Politicians who are beginning to let their honesty and integrity talk. We need more people like this. I haven’t YET heard one in the UK. No, not even Hannan.
It just takes one, then two, then 4 and it snowballs. People who want to talk and lose their fear to do so.
No, but I bet Mandelson does.
Interesting article on Goldman Sachs:
http://www.moneymorning.com/2009/04/15/goldman-sachs-share-offering/
Always looking for creative ways around the ‘catch 22,’ so, whadda-bout accepting the idea of a global currency and then refusing to use it in practice? Take the new money and stuff it down the throats of those who have, and pile it deep on their properties so as nothing will grow, and the sun don’t shine through their windows…Sound like fun? -Then, we go back to using the old money, but with a fixed rate of internationl exchange.
Either way, the EU is not a workable model and the media that says it is needs to be terminated in the same way. Since only 1% own 90% of the world’s assets, nothing can stop the masses from recaliming their properties under the conditions of a global crash. –Meaning, full (banking) ‘transparency’ is required for the ‘flushing-out’ phase, as most of the tax payers haven’t a clue how to sniff out a de Rothschild, or when to use a silver-bullet…
Can someone answer this question in a nutshell? Just make it really simple for now:
What is the one major fear behind inflating a currency? i.e. printing more of it.
What is the single most fundamental issue countries/governments worry about in this instance?
Erm, having to use a wheelbarrow to transport enough money to but a loaf of bread?
Don’t know the answer to the 2nd question other than that all ponzi schemes fail?
Am I missing the point here?
No Sharon not missing the point at all (although it is all one and the same question actually). Ok. Using a wheelbarrow because of the immense inflation of prices right? BUT what is the fundamental mechanism that causes the currency to then have such enormous inflationary pressure on prices?
Could it be DEVALUATION of the currency by any chance?
Just work with me here for a moment coz I’m trying to come to a point. If it’s then thrown out as dumb then I’m happy to hear why?
The “British Empire” was really the “rothschild Empire” when you examine the facts.
Pretty much…yes. And how did they achieve it? Hard graft? LOL
No. Corruption and crime. Yet we allow them to sit there as the elite of society all wishing to be them. I don’t. I’d just wish to crush them. They are humanity’s cancer.
Oh and by the Way, now that they have consolidated their wealth, it is widely believed they intend culling 80& of the Worlds Population, either through wars and or the Deliberate release of Biological weapons on major cities.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZRw9y8ZAAI
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=bird+flu+contaminated+vaccine&btnG=Google+Search&meta=&aq=f&oq=
Remember the Two French students Brutally murdered in london, it is believed these students were French Biochemists who had discovered that the Bird flu in the UK was a Weaponised variant, IE made in a Laboratory Not a natural flu virus.
Plenty of google info on this.
Remember, Westminster does not want us to be able to feed ourselves, the EU want all nations to be interdependant, this is why our fishing has been destroyed, our oil reserves depleted and our farming destroyed, the Foot and mouth was shown to be a variant that came from a Govt Laboratory.
Yes they are quite insane and will stop at nothing.
I agree that the 2 most recent FMD outbreaks 2001/2007 were riddled with deceit & lies. There were cover ups after cover ups. I lived in the epi centre of the 2001 fiasco. I could write a book about it!
However the virus was the Pan Asian O Type a type already routinely found in other areas around the world and NOT exclusively found in a lab.
That does not mean that it could not have been released from a laboratory however. The IAH, Pirbright in Surrey would be carrying this virus within their labs. routinely as they attempt to produce a vaccination, which incidentally they had long before the 2001 outbreak.
Much easier to kill millions of animals at the bequest of the EU!
Yes, and then Ireland had some bovine ‘problems’ directly after they refused to ratify the Lisbon ‘Treaty’. Funny old World.
“Either way, the EU is not a workable model and the media that says it is needs to be terminated in the same way.”
Seriously, I’m beginning to notice the media have stopped talking about the EU in this way. Many papers are now actively opposing it and the BBC tends to keep its gob shut about it most of the time, for fear of rubbing people up the wrong way. There is a distinct mood of anger against the EU in this country, and the BBC are intelligent enough not to pour petrol on that fire, so they brush it under the carpet most of the time now. Instead they like to put trivia on their front page to create a distraction. Meanwhile the EU machine carries on turning at ever increasing speeds. We will leave eventually, and that time is getting closer.
You know about the complicity of the BBC with the Heath government and the FCO when in 1972 Heath TREASONOUSLY took us into the EEC?
PERHAPS, just perhaps, that could be why they are keeping a low profile also. I wouldn’t know – Haven’t watched that conditioning box for a few years now!
Very interesting point.
The number of reports of Treason & Sedition to Police
iro of The Heath Government have exploded recently.
Really? When you say “exploded” what do you mean exactly?
I don’t want to seem to be supporting ONE Party, but the only party (ap[art from the BNP) who vow to leave the EU is UKIP.
If they can get say 50 plus seats on June 4th. they could dprove a formidable force in Brussels and Strasbourg.
Some of your facts are true but you forget a very important fact about the bank of england and that is that it is part of the Rothshild empire since the batle of waterloo . AT the time the Rothshild financed the french and the british empires . the Rothshilds spread a false rumour stating that the french had won the battle a full 24 hrs before wellington s own courier . that event created mass panick in the stock exchange . Nathan mayer Rothshild orderd his men to sell all the bounds that made all the other traders belive that the british lost the war so they started selling franticaly. therefore the bounds plummeted in value which was when nathan mayer Rothchild discretly ordred his men to purchase all the bounds they could lay there hands on. when the new finaly came that the french had lost the war the bounds whent up in value to a much higher value than before the war leaving rothshild with a return of approximately 20 to 1 on his investment. this gave the rothshild family total control of the british economy now the financial center of the world and forced England to create the new bank of England which they now control. you can find all this info and more about the rothshild on the jew watch news.com website.
Andre, Thanks for adding that. There are a lot of people who don’t know this and sometimes we forget to discuss it because we’re all too aware of it. We forget that many others may not be.
The trouble is that much of this is so complicated and hard to grasp that it is above many ordinary peoples’ heads. They might even think like many Icelandic people – well our curency is rubbish now so let’s join the euro and have that instead.
http://www.monetaryreform.org
Dr Hamlyn dedicated a great deal of time to trying to explain our monetary system so that ordinary people could understand it better.
If he had not passed away I feel sure he would have taken an interest in the B C Group. His site continues and is well worth a look.
Cheesy. They MAKE it “complex” and continue the deception that it is. Once, however, you ignore the seeming “complexity” that is created around money and get down to the bare facts of what money is and who controls it, you really don’t NEED to fully understand the complex bubble they have generated to mask its essence.
All you need understand is that it is, again, the “strong” vs the “weak” using wealth created from absolute corruption and deceit over decades if not centuries. Getting the masses to understand this simple fact changes the entire imbalance.
Of course “they” make it complicated, and the reason why this subject – how our money system works – is not covered in any real depth in mainstream schools or colleges is because “they” do not want the ordinary people to ever really understand it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVkFb26u9g8
Thesis/antithesis/synthesis
“east” and “west” are an illusion.
The Rothschilds, Rockefellers and the rest of the 13 bloodline families are only the modern version of the sociopathic elite. Their beginnings go back to Cain, Ham(Naamah), Canaanites, Esau, Dan, etc. Esau married into Ishmael’s line(his daughter), Hittites, Hivites, Spanish(Spanish Edomites/Sephardic), Khazars(Ashkenazi), and other middle eastern nations.
The elite either own it or have infiltrated it. Any fighting among the political “leaders”, religious “leaders”, MSM, etc is only an illusion. The only ones fighting are the masses and they are fighting each other instead of the problem. The masses are like western medicine attacking the symptom instead of the disease. Another problem with the masses is that they are unable to agree upon what the disease is. As long as the masses stay divided the elite will continue to win.
ChiOne1: That is so well put mate. That is precisely it in a nutshell.
fantastic article ,many thanks .it really lays out what a farce that our financial system really is and makes it very palatable for people new to the scam that we are currently watching unfold on a Global scale with this false economic implosion .
i`ve just listened to a really interesting interview on the economic collapse of Argentina which is well worth a listen to ,you can find it here
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-827527270433867070&hl=en
again many thanks for the article
What is stated here is mostly rubbish, I think…
You seem to imagine a situation where, if the public would only get their eyes open, then the problem would be solved, and there would be fairness for all.
That’s not so.
If you place 100 “equal” men together on a desolated island, and let them live there for 100 years, they will form a hierarchy, with some “strong” people on the top, effectively controlling the weaker people on the bottom. This will always happen.
And that’s how it is with the world’s economy too. You’ll always have a situation where some people dominate over others. You will always have a hierarchy.
So, your illusion of a “new world order” is just that, a god damned illusion.
You love the conspiracy, and you love the idea that there’s something wrong in society because some people are dominated by others. That’s not so. What you describe as a problem is really only the natural state of things. It will always be like this. The sooner you realize this, the better for yourself.
Interesting Bernt. While there is much reality in what you state buddy you infer one of two things:
1. That the dominated just have to accept the domination and remain “weak” or
2. That the “weak” decide that, together actually, they are not so weak after all.
The fact is that what we are saying is that the “weak” rise from their slumber whereas you are suggesting we just accept getting screwed because “that’s just the way it is”. and “the natural state of things”.
Let me explain something to you buddy: Generally speaking, the “natural state of things” involves a majority rule over a minority. A little like two opposing sides in a war.
Our side, in this war, is potentially composed of 60M people whereas the other side kinda pales into insignificance in number wouldn’t you say?
Meanwhile, our side don’t wish to impose and dominate unlike the other side.
Of course there will always be a hierarchy. There’s no idealism here. We’re realists. It’s you suggesting we’re not, not us.
Regarding loving “conspiracy”. Who’s talking conspiracy? You’ve just stated clearly it’s fact and it’s how it is right? So where’s the conspiracy mate?
“The sooner you realise this, the better for yourself”: You know my personal response to stuff like that?
“Roll over and beg Rover!”
You’re an example of one who just accepts with no grit to say “This is wrong” but all the “bravery” in the world to just follow the status quo.
If you don’t see the need nor have a passionate want for change, integrity and honesty then what are you doing on here?
Acceptance is the easy way in life. Don’t i know it! But you know what? I’d rather live than exist mate!
Arguing with you guys is a bit like arguing to the animals in Animal Farm that they should not revolt.
It’s a valid argument, kind of. But then again not quite. Especially not from the perspective of the animals themselves…
I guess what I’m saying is that you should understand that part of your plan for a new world order is an illusion, just in the same way as the plan of the animals in Animal Farm was an illusion.
They thought that after the revolution there would be no one dominating or imposing things on others. And they were wrong…
Still, for the animals in animal farm, revolution was a sound bet. They were already at the bottom of the pecking order, and they felt as if they had nothing to lose by organizing a revolution.
I understand that some people might feel the same way about the current economic power structure in the world. And for those of you who do, I see your argument. It’s valid, from your own perspective……
It kind of makes me a bit sad to think of. Because, if many people in the world feel like this, it means that there will be turmoil and upheaval in the world in the years to come. From my own perspective, I hope this will not be so. But, who knows what will happen.
i`m sorry for you bernt if all you are worried about is upsetting your own little applecart.
in case you haven`t noticed lots of peoples applecarts have already been turned over and looted (and this has only just begun ) ,that i think is the point you miss with that attitude , it is about all of us ,not just our own little patch .
i feel angry when i see people i don`t know getting their houses taken away by the very organisations who made the chaos happen in the first place , because it isn`t right .
i will never understand your defeatest attitude that says “thats just the way it is ” never , because it just isn`t right . so on that front you are fighting a losing battle .
the battle for freedom is constant, forever, it means being forever vigilant and active in bringing people to task for their actions , if we do as you would have us do (as we have done for a long time , just ignore the problem and only worry about our own little patch) then we will soon end up with the worst tyranny that has ever been possible on this planet , however if we take the bitter pill and deal with the people who are orchestrating all this then we can at least hope for better things , And yes there will be more who seek to wreak tyranny you are right , but you are wrong in your solution .
resistance is not useless .
Bernt, there is NO illusion here. We know that there will be then others who would wish to impose and dominate. But its very simple. We see it now and you either accept that by changing it you can then be far more aware of the same issues (and there will be similar issues) and you are ready to deal with them.
I sense that you are considering this to be some sort of violent revolution? On the contrary. This will be peaceful AND it shall be achieved through integrity, truth, honesty and intelligence. I can’t see much wrong with that myself since what we have is the exact opposite at the moment.
That said, I also sense that things in your garden are quite rosy at the moment. That, my friend, could soon change because what the overall plan is, is that even the relatively affluent are going to be crushed in time. And by the way, don’t get the idea that we are not relatively affluent people. I would hope you would sense that there is a rather decent level of education, experience and simple integrity going into this.
We’re simply seeing something better for all. We don’t like to see people trodden on by corruption at the core.
Lastly, this is not all about the economy. Take a look around the site and you will see that the NWO is about far more than just what they have in store economically.
But, if you’re ok then you’re ok right?
But have you got kids? I’m sure you’ll see no issue in the credit cards and ID cards turning into implanted chips right? As they “sell” the idea that it’s smart for all sorts of reasons.
Take a step back and think about it.
i wonder if you`d say that if you lost your house ,your job ,your savings etc.?
maybe you are someone who`d just hand over the keys to someone who said they have authority over you Bernt ?
sometimes in history people have to stand up and be counted and say no and i`m afraid you are living in one of those times whether you think so or not .
its your choice ,but i will say if you decide to bend over rather than stand up i`d grease your back side if i were you because its going to hurt
Have you ever studied history? Now and again people have to fight for their freedoms and for a better system. Better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
As I understand it, the reason for the bank of england having complete monetary independence from the treasury was a requirement of britain entering monetary union with the the Euro and falling into sink with the ECB. I had thought this was suspicious originally, but having found that all central banks that formed the ECB had to have this it appears just another part of the EU juggernaut.
“Just another part of the EU juggernaut”. Yes… now take it all a step further keeping in mind who controls the world’s money supply and how they have orchestrated every financial crisis since money was invented!
Can anyone asnwer this question? The IMF was constructed originally by the USA, UK, Japan, Germany, Italy and France right? And these countries STILL are the major quota holders. Now the original money of the IMF was supplied by these countries therefore, as of today, the IMF STILL refer to these countries as “The shareholders”.
Question: Since when did “shareholders” or, put another way, original investors who FUND the IMF, have to EVER beg for money?
$1trillion that Brown, Obama etc are so “grateful” to the IMF for. The IMF plainly stating that they would HAVE no money (or gold) without these shareholders’ quotas. The IMF starting with nothing and NOW is the second largest holder of gold in the world. OUR gold!
While they supply back (through illusional “Special Drawing Rights” or SDR’s) completely valueless paper currency.
Is it just me who recognises daylight robbery when he sees it or have I missed something?
Didn’t we, the UK shareholder, have to go to the IMF under Wilson?
Anyway Mark, you are not alone in recognising this as daylight robbery. Anyone who looks at the facts would have to come to that conclusion – it’s a complete p**s take and now they are taxing the air that we breathe (I used to joke about this a decade ago saying if they could get away with it they would tax the air we breathe – I didn’t actually think this would happen though: silly me!).
Did any of you hear the interview of David Rothschild by Alex Jones? Very funny! The squirmy, oily, slimy little sh*t was trying to explain that the people were causing global warming. Obvioulsy Daddy must have told him he needed to do his bit to increase the family’s profits – a few quidrillion just isn’t enough!
Sharon, Rockefeller’s point re people causing global warming was hitting two basic points for them:
1. They want the Carbon tax on every man woman and child in the universe.
2. They want governments to impose chinese-like restrictions on the number of children per family while they then remove the rest through wars, famines and vaccinations.
Have you read about the number of Africans even who are rejecting vaccinations?
Have you looked into Obama’s support for “Planned Parenthood”?
When you dig a little and keep digging its funny how all of this just becomes as clear as day isn’t it?
Well we pay millions to the EU annually and they very graciously give us some of this money back for Capital Projects, provided we can match their ‘donation’ pound for pound, or euro for euro….whatever.
It’s the economics of the madhouse. Where’s Heath when you want to string him up ?
We must NOT forget that TONY BLAIR is being lined up to become President of the European Union !!
It should be fascinating to see Blair and The First Lady strutting the world stage again.
How did we ever get into this state ?
Outstanding piece, and I find it so encouraging that our English brethren suffering under an even more advanced yoke (EU) of serdom and tyranny are starting to awaken to this very real international (and it IS international; unbelievably they even control the banks in Asia) criminal cabal. If the Western people collectively had remotely any idea of the true scope of how vast and how far back this raping and pillaging goes, the French guillotines would have long ago been resurrected. It is completely secretive, incestuous and not to be trifled with. The only power we have against this pernicious, ruthless cabal is our sheer numbers and educating others, perhaps God divine intervention and exposure to the light of day.
Here in the U.S., there is compelling evidence that Presidents Kennedy, Lincoln, and McKinley were assassinated for defying or going up against the money trusts. Moreover, Congressman McFadden, one of the staunchest critics of the completely unconstitutional Federal Reserve System in his day was most certainly poisoned by these cutthroat criminals. President Andrew “I Killed the Bank” Jackson had two attempts on his life, and one of them by the brother of Nicolas Biddle who was then the top official with the first illicit chartered central bank in America which Jackson did indeed, as one of the greatest patriots in American history, “kill (unfortunately to be resurrected as the Creature from Jekkyl Island in 1913 by these timeless financial pirates).
With their unimaginable wealth obtained by this monopoly, this groups brethren (an oligopolistic group of 6 corporations) owns the ENTIRE media apparatus in the U.S. Every newspaper, magazine, television station, and book publishing company are owned by these same genetic kinsmen which means NOTHING is disseminated they don’t want disseminated which is anything remotely critical of what these thieves have been doing for time immemorial. These banksters hire their tribal members to plant in every economics dept in every university and to dominate every “talking head” media outlet to keep the fraudulent system in place. They occupy every key position in our Federal Leviathan, and Obama (they openly brag in their countless publications meant for THEIR eyes only) was groomed from the time he entered Columbia University to do their bidding and to fully implement a complete police state as they have already done to our formerly free brethren in the Western nations. They control every Democratic/Republican adminstration no matter how much the willfully ignorant or genuinely stupid masses believe in “change” or continuously put blind faith into these treasonous enablers and false opposition that deceives them , put into every critical position of power having to do with guarding the nation’s purse (Treasury Dept.) which as so many have aptly pointed out is literally putting the vampires in charge of the blood bank. Their control of the money supply and their ability to expand and contract the nation’s credit puts them into a prime position to engineer bubbles (and they have indeed been doing this every since the central bank’s sinister founding) and enables them to destroy businesses and private wealth alike, and buy up assets for pennies on the dollar. Everything that I’ve written about the U.S. can be extrapolated across the entire spectrum of the Western world.
I’ll give you but one example as a microcrosm of how they operate but on a much, much grander scale: recently they had one of the wealthiest neighborhoods (which has its own golf course) in Raleigh, NC on the foreclosure auction block because the gangsters had of course contracted the credit which the high-end builders/buyers no longer had access to. WHO wound up buying the entire remaining luxury real estate? Why a BANK , of course, who bought it for about 70 cents on the dollar. It was noted in the paper that the builder still had thirty days to buy it back. But guess what? Since this tribe operates in covert collusion with one another, unless this builder finds some private investment money, he loses and they win. It’s impossible to beat them at this game as they control ALL the money (“Give me control of a nation’s money and I care not who makes it’s laws.”– Mayer Amschel Bauer Rothschild). Think of how they literally engineer stock market crashes and how it puts them in premier (like the predators that they are) positions to buy controlling interests in corporations and buy up as many assets for devalued prices as they damn well like, and this is how they have come to own and control most American corporations that were at were time in American hands. They know no loyalty to anyone but their own, and in fact proceed like the termites they so closely resemble to stripmine nations of everything that makes them desirable places to live. They ARE subversives and totalitarians at heart and fund every imaginable cause known to mankind to destroy the traditions which form the underpinnings of freedom. Here in the U.S., they are desperately trying to pass their odious HATE CRIME laws – the ultimate objective being to criminalize bloggers and anyone else who dares to uncover their dirty, destructive deeds as they have already successfully done in the formerly free West. The U.S. remains the last BASTION in ALL THE WEST who these tyrants have yet to fully implement their total police state just as they did in Russia with THEIR Bolshevik Revolution. If we want to see OUR Western Peoples’ future, look at what they did to the poor Russians who have never recovered from their mass murder and fiscal rape. THIS is what they have planned for us just as they have been committing a reign of terror against the pitiful Palestinians with our EVIL governments by proxy and OUR peoples’ lives as their fodder. These all serve as examples of what our fates are should we let these greedy, self-aggrandizing, historical psychopaths triumph in their ultimate objective of global enslavement for all but themselves. Our plutocrats’/elites’ who act in concert with them must be made to pay the price for their unspeakable treason for selling their nations out and allowing this parasitism
to flourish and to so destroy their native lands quite possibly beyond the point of recovery. This diabolical banking cancer which has metastisized throughout the entire world must be excised and completely shorn of every asset and every asset returned to those from whom it was stolen and placed in the publics’ treasury. Our nations can perhaps begin to recover from their malevolence towards others which has so thoroughly bankrupted once-healthy countries with their usurious practises, funny money printing presses and fiat money backed by absolutely nothing of value but the malice in their hearts.
I heartily urge every patriot to learn as much as you can (drink liberally from the fountains of truth such as rense.com from this incredible freedom forum know as the blogosphere which effectively restored our freedom of speech which the Western people have not had for perhaps as long as a century) as this is a ferocious, formidable enemy, and we are in for the fight of our very lives and restoration of freedoms. Another MUSt for reading is the incredibly patriotic speech by Benjamin Freedman in the 60’s who valiantly tried to warn the American people of what these bankster/gangsters intentions were and how they have cruelly engineered countless wars which have senselessly destroyed millions of OUR people even as our survival as Europeans’ and her descendents is grim and ill-fated. They ARE the impetus behind our plight and demise.
I applaud you, Sir, as you are a patriot extraordinaire.
A superb overview. Indeed, the history of the United States is essentially the history of the war between the money power and liberty’s champions.
Between 1862 and 1913 the money power won the great battles that eventually brought them outright victory in the US. However, as we know, the maintenance of this victory relies on sleight of hand – of a form so subtle that generations of the defeated have become convinced of the need to forge their own shackles.
So what now is this thing called money? Whilst it is indeed backed by nothing tangible, it would be a mistake to say it is backed by nothing.
A private central bank creates money in exchange for governmet bonds. These bonds represent the government’s ability to extract the sweat equity of the people through taxation. Little wonder, then, that the revenue enforcement bodies of the West have so much power. Slave revolts are as unacceptable now as they were in Roman times.
But the thought still haunts the Warbugs, Rockefellers and Lazards of the world. They can know no real peace until such revolts are impossible. The ability to withhold taxes must be stamped out entirely. This can only be achieved via total centralisation of economic power, from which the individual is issued electronic credit. The means of an individual’s survival must begin and end with the state. Pure commerce. Pure insanity.
We face much the same dilemma today as Andrew Jackson did in his time. The limitless ambition of the private banking dynasties is only one half of the problem. If Jackson, Jefferson, Lincoln and all who stood courageously against the enemies of freedom could have gotten the truth indelibly into the hearts of the people, the bankers would never have stood a chance. Ordinary people have never in my lifetime been so receptive to the central message as they are right now. The internet is the key tool, but there is still no substitute for real, face-to-face debate. We have to be the ‘termites’ – gnawing away at the support structure inch by inch until collapse becomes inevitable. ‘They’ are so few. We are so, so many – as well they know.
Thank you immensely for the generous compliment, and you are absolutely right about their fiat money being backed by the beleagured American peoples’ sweat, blood, equity and toil which these vultures not only heartlessly discount but I’m convinced TAKE pleasure in destroying.
First and foremost above all else we MUST do everything in our power to prevent the passage of their “Hate Crime Laws” (which they have already succeeded in passing through the back door – ALL fifty states which heretofore has been denied them at the federal level) which thanks to the efforts of hero Ted Pike (and perhaps the grace of God) which THEY stand poised to triumph with their puppet/fellow Marxist at the helm. This and the registration and then confiscation of firearms will seal our fate and quash all hopes if we are to have any hope for continuing to be the “termites” gnawing away at these usurpers infesting our federal/state governments and judiciary systems.
Fellow tribe member (too few know this; MORE need to) Janet Napolitano (out with the he-devil Chertoff; in with the she-devil Napolitano) who now heads our very own police state agency, Dept. of Homeland Security, wasted no time in taking the gloves off in letting us know that we are henceforth under the iron grip of THEIR control. Interestingly enough, the other candidate for this position was none other than another tribe member, Jane Harman, who was one of the primary sponsors of last years broad-based, deadly hate crime legislation which would criminalize bloggers (Read: truthtellers) who is today involved in a scandal involving her efforts to secure the release of two convicted Israeli spies (See: http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/04/20/harman/index.html). And then the story out today out regarding Feinstein’s (of course, another member of the Klan) inveigling legislation for 85 billion dollars to a federal agency who in turn, had just awarded HER husband with a huge contract (but of course we peons are supposed to see no malfeasance or conflict of interest. See: EXCLUSIVE: Senator’s husband’s firm cashes in on crisis
Feinstein sought $25 billion for agency that awarded contract to spouse
http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/apr/21/senate-husbands-firm-cashes-in-on-crisis/) Simply astounding the degree to which our government has been hijacked by the dual-agent invaders and how few connect the obvious dots.
Thanks again, my fellow patriot friend. I stand corrected.
Stephanie
The second paragraph should have read:
First and foremost above all else we MUST do everything in our power to prevent the passage of their “Hate Crime Laws” (which they have already succeeded in passing through the back door – ALL fifty states which heretofore has been denied them at the federal level) which thanks to the efforts of hero Ted Pike (and perhaps the grace of God) have previously been thwarted , but now stand poised to triumph with their puppet/fellow Marxist at the helm.
I stand corrected again.
Cheers,
S.
You know it Brother.
We had one patriot in this country, and you probably know her well. This speech is probably up there with some of the most revolutionary speeches of our history, and it was well ahead of its time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nBt8Ahb48w
Only now people in Britain are beginning to understand it. For her trouble she was ousted in the most hideous way imaginable. It was a disgraceful act of treachery, and to this day I clearly remember the BBC new when it happened. Perched in a window in number 10, with a marauding gang of lions below, she then made her way to her car. The expression on her face told it all. She loved our country and she knew this was the end of it.
But is it? This is the big question everyone is pondering at the 11th hour 59th minute as they start to wake up.
Daniel Hannan pays a tribute:
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/daniel_hannan/blog/2008/09/19/margaret_thatchers_bruges_speech_was_20_years_ahead_of_its_time
Maggie had BIG faults and her privatisation policy was perfectly acceptable to the elites at that time, ridding us of our manufacturing base (real value) and unions (the voice against the establishment – with its own issues granted).
But Maggie was a true blue Brit. No way was she going down the EU route and Heath (the absolute traitor) nudged Howe to resign and the Bilderbergers took out the euro sceptic Maggie.
Why do you think its Ken Clarke who is a steering committee member of Bilderberg and why Obama slighted Cameron?
When your eyes are open, you tend to see things that would never have entered your head before. Sometimes (many times) you wish you were still “asleep” but it’s better to know than not to know.
Howe is also Committee of 300. In the loop.
“We had one patriot in this country, and you probably know her well.” — baron vonlotsov
You’ve had a number of patriots; two premier ones off the top of my head: Certainly Enoch Powell rates. Perhaps none loom larger than Lady Jane Birdwell jailed twice for her dead-on accurate journalism regarding anti-Gentilism and the parasitic Money Masters. How prescient she proved.
“The Longest Hatred” http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/hatred.htm
We’ve had so many important people throughout history who’ve tried valiantly to sound the sirens about this Menace in our Midst and their perennial behavior, and the failure to heed their calls is why we find ourselves hurtling at breakneck speed to financial Armageddon and eventually, if we fail to wrest our countries back from these infiltrators and usurpers, towards global totalitarianism, wholesale slaughter/imprisonment or banishment to labor camps.
What we must never forget is that THEY could NOT accomplish this without OUR treasonous plutocracy who act in concert with them. There WILL be a righteous day of Reckoning.
Wide Awake & Fooled No More,
Stephanie
The thing is though Baron, while she’ll support the Bruges Group, she knows (as do they all) that if they REALLY were patriotic and put the country first before their own greed and aims, they would expose all of this. Maggie could easily because she KNOWS what Bilderberg are doing! But she won’t. So, patriotic to a point I guess.
HIGH TREASON
The same happen in Italy and all the western civilization (civilization?). While in UK and in France after WWII the central bank is supposedly ‘nationalized’, they still cook the books by hiding the monetary rent (seigniorage) in the liabilities side of the balance. I explained the mechanism in this document:
“Quasi-criminal behaviour of some financial institution” [2005]
http://studimonetari.org/documenti/quasicriminal.doc
You must AUDIT the BOE and BOEN and you will discover who really are the rulers…
Good point! MASSIVE petition to have the BOE and BOEN audited!
And why on earth should there be sections in the BOE Act that are shielded by the Official Secrets Act for god’s sakes!
“Well we can’t disclose this information to the general public because it is not in the general public’s interests to know”????
or
“Well it could cause some terrorist attack or outrage or perhaps a war”????
You’re right there!!
Who are these people trying to kid?
It’s dead easy to setup an e-petition on the 10 Downing Street website. If there are more than 200 petitionees then they have to respond to it…
There’s one already up re the abolition of the B of E. Check it out. It’s under the name Welsh!
When are we going to get the EU audit ? Fifteen years and rising. Has nobody smelt a rat yet ? No, thought not.
No they haven’t! Unbelievable isn’t it? But then perhaps not since I believe that the Fed hasn’t been audited since 1971? If not before that?
It’s just immensely hard to believe all of this crap. It really is.
Sarbanes Oxley would have a field day!!
Good work! I’d like to add this to the discussion.
With regard to dumbed down people, one must understand what one is dealing with.
John Taylor Gattos work “The Underground History of American Education” and “Weapons of Mass Instruction” detail the historical processes behind the imposition of enforced schooling (compulsory state education) as the essential tool for the dumbing down the people, so that the Banking and Industrial owners could direct society and craft a predictible mass of people. His work is illuminating. Gatto went to the Archives of the great foundations and their acolytes and unearthed such pearls as the following :
“The primary purpose for government is to be a vehicle for the rich to get their hands into our pockets” Buckminster Fuller in Grunch of Giants
“The purpose of the foundation was to use the power of money, not to raise the level of education…, as was widely believed at the time, but to influence the direction of that education… The object was to use the classroom to teach attitudes that encourage people to be passive and submissive to their rulers. The goal was – and is – to create citizens who were educated enough for productive work under supervision but not enough to question authority or seek to rise above their class. True education was to be restricted to the sons and daughters if the elite. For the rest, it would be better to produce skilled workers with no particular aspirations other than to enjoy life.” – G Edward Griffin in The Creature from Jekyll Island, on Rockefeller’s General Education Board, founded 1903
“In our dream, we have limitless resources, and the people yield themselves with perfect docility to our molding hands. The present educational conventions fade from our minds; and, unhampered by tradition, we work our own good upon a grateful and responsive rural folk.” – from 1st occasional paper of General Education Board, The Country School of Tomorrow
The City Academies, Blairs baby, the one that cried “Education, Education, Education” is the first stage in handing our children over to private corporate interests, free of democratic or local oversight. For example, AEON, the Pentagons largest buildings managment/ facillities contractor is managing 9 of these City Academies in London.
Ona depper psychological and personal level Alice Millers work ‘The Roots of Violence inChild Rearing Practices” traces the history of how the elites infected the people with thier own child-rearing practices, which were designed to ensure that those children who ‘inherited’ POWER would weild it without remorse. In essence they needed to ensure a certain level of emotional blindness in their children to ensure they would be as brutal and venally corruptible as they themselves were.
Her work explains why in Nazi Germany many ‘good people’ complied with the system of brutality and lived in denial of the reality, in much the same way the people of the UK have done with regard to Kosovo, Afghanistan and Iraq.
In essence all children are born with innate intelligence, and creativity, and the ability to master themselves to thrive in nature – it couldn’t be any other way. So the only ways for POWER to maintain it’s hold over the natural child are though consistent violence or psychological manipulation. The latter for those in the developed industrialised west, the former for all others…..
John Taylor Gatto was I/v’d by Darryl Bradford Smith on Tuesday 14th April 09 – here’s the mp3 to download:
http://www.twowitnesses.us/the_french_connection_04_14.MP3
Darryl’s site contains an enormous library of books/articles and mp3’s at:
http://www.iamthewitness.com
and here’s another heroine for Truth – Charlotte Iserbyt and the ‘Deliberate Dumbing Down of America’:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GX1_JNguJAI&feature=PlayList&p=470272332EC6DC91&index=8
ps : get these books via yer local library, that way the council pays for them, (tee hee) and others can stumble upon them…
I highly reccomend “Weapons of Mass Instruction” by John Taylor Gatto, and also “How CHildren Fail”and “how Chidlren Learn” by John Holt… and anything by Bill Millison,as food security at the grass roots has to be established in order to take on the system effectively.
I must say a big thank you to all who contributed in postings here. It just about sums up the way of the current world.
I will use this page as a reference for people I want to “wake up”.
I agree with the original poster.
I also think that the Fed and the BoE should be audited…..now.
V for Vendetta
Mark Welsh
I agree that Lady Thatcher started off on the wrong track with what lead to the destruction of many family owned manufacturing businesses, some of which had been trading for over a century. However, you picture yourself in her shoes, and I think it is clear too much hit her all at once, and they managed to sneak some agenda stuff in there at the time.
However, this did not last, and I guess she twigged that all was not what it was supposed to be, and she knew what the Bilderburgers wanted because she was initially privy to their plans. However she said to their faces at a Bilderburger meeting that no Bilderburger was going to tell he what to do about Europe. A full swing of the handbag in the face of the Bilderburgers. What a heroin she was to do that.
Also, do you remember that after she was ousted there was an issue to do with doctors advising that she should not make any further public speeches for health reasons? This did not add up at all, since she was fit and healthy at the time and speaking through a microphone is not normally regarded as a strain on one’s health. Indeed even today she is still actively involved in local organisations and has remained a public servant in the House of Lords. I’d say what the ‘doctors’ were actually doing was giving her a death threat. That’s how far they had to go with her. It say it all really.
She is a member of the Order of the Garter, which is all part of the Elite clique.
I hated some of her policies and she DID hurt the UK quite a bit but I tip my hat to the woman. She WAS a leader and boy she meant everything she said and she BELIEVED in it. I am certain if she could do it again, she’d make the real changes needed and make up for the issues she’s caused.
Anyone since just doesn’t match up to the woman.
Meanwhile I wasn’t aware of the Doctor issue. I didn’t take much interest in politics at all until very recently. You could be right knowing these Bilderberg psychos.
I view Margaret Thatcher as the large dose of unpleasant laxative that Britain needed to purge itself of the ubiquitous Communist wreckers that had infiltrated every trade union and every nationalised company, and were whipping up the ignorant workers in every corner of the country and ruining everything, prior to her Prime Ministership.
During this time I lived on the 24th floor of a block of flats where I had to frequently had to walk up 48 flights of stairs with my baby, pushchair and shopping!
I gave birth to my first child during this chaos, and due to hospital anciliary workers being on strike there were no clean bedsheets for my bed or my baby’s cot – I had to have my own brought in from home.
We were fed sandwiches because there was no hot food either!
My husband was badly burnt from a candle flame at this time due to the electricity being off. It has scarred him for life!
I realise now of course that the commie wreckers were paid agents “useful idiots” – our industry was meant to be wrecked, and our wonderful workforce was intentionally rubbished so “they” could move all our heavy – and eventually light – industry abroad to cheaper second and third world, scab labour.
Really, what else could Thatcher do? I have always admired her, and I have a pathalogical, deep-seated hatred of the Labour Party -old or new, and rightly so!
But I also now see the bigger picture – the EU, the Elite and I am up for a fight! Big style!
All,
There is an e-petition already, although it’s title is to “shutdown the central bank”. I don’t think that will fly. But, anyway, here’s the link:
http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/CentralBanks/
I think that maybe what we need is a petition title which will help the awakening but not be too outrageous…
Thoughts anyone?
// Martin
We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to Audit the Bank of England & Bank of England Nominees Ltd.
We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to STOP enslaving people through over extended private debt and now over-extended national debt by auditing the Bank of England and the Bank of England Nominees Ltd.
signed
Signed!
SIGNED
There’s another e-petition related re-nationalising the BOE at :-
http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/NationalisBOE/
// Martin
The details of this petition are more in-line with this article. Please pass on this URL to other people and ask them to sign the petition…
We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to Re-Nationalise the Bank of England.
Struggle Against Financial Exploitation Limited and the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to; i) RE-Nationalise The Bank of England, currently an agent of the ‘Treasury’ thereby bringing it back into Public ownership and Government control, (as Prime Minister Clement Atlee did in 1947). ii) Dissolve ‘Bank of England Nominees Limited’ allegedly owned by The Bank of England, Assigning its holdings/assets to the Nationalised Bank of England. iii) Issue the Nations currency. iv) Issue the currency without interest/bank rate. v) Withdraw the privilege afforded to The Bank of England by the DTI of not having to disclose accounts or corporate details.
http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/NationalisBOE/
// Martin
> > We don’t like to see people trodden on by corruption at the core.
I agree.
But I sense that you’re kind of aiming for a “flatter” world structure. A structure where people are more on equal footing, and where there is less hierarchy.
On that part I think you’re wrong.
Hierarcy is necessary to keep the world together…
Like I said, the story in Animal Farm is an example of this. A flat structure cannot last for long by itself.
An other example is The Beach by Alex Garland. This novel also describes the mechanisms which kick in when people set out to form a flat eden-like social structure. It works for a while, then there are conflics, and then there arises an need for leaders to guide the people and to avoid the conflicts. And with leadership, you have the possible bi-effect of corruption.
A third example is the hippies of the sixties and the seventies. These people also communicated the idea of flatter social structures, where people would live toghether in love, peace and mutual respect, and where no one would dominate over other people. This also fails, for the same reasons as the experiment in The Beach fails. People naturally form hierarchical structures when they are left to themselves.
A flat structure is not possible.
Bernt, really that is not what is intended at all. A flat structure. Free market capitalism within an honest framework does not a flat structure make. There will STILL be a hierarchy. We are not trying to achieve an Eden for that would be patently idealistic and I think, just as you, we are all long in the tooth enough to appreciate that such is not going to happen in our lifetimes if at all.
All we are attempting to do is bring in an honest level playing field where those that have the capability, work ethic and wish to prosper are not limited in the possibilities. That government WORKS for people. That we are NOT indebted to a corrupt set of private banking elites who have an entirely alternative (and inhumane) plan for the world. And that our judiciary works as a judiciary with clear, unambiguous laws that are based on Common Law and NOT Admiralty law and are put into effect consistently.
To then reinvest in our society and infrastructure and real value while re-educating our children/people.
The dumbing down of a society through the education process takes approx a generation. To get it back up to standard again and give the population REAL value in all they do would probably take another generation (pure guess) but you have to start somewhere.
If we are to achieve this however, we are going to create enemies of the bankers. We need to be ready for that!
With respect Bernt is Animal Farm the only book you have read?
Try George Orwells 1984 …we are the Winston Smiths who know what is what …and you are???
Brilliant thread!
Bernt, with respect, your comment seems a bit pessimistic. A less unbalanced structure need not necessarily be completely ‘flat’. At the moment we have the two extremes of the, literally, starving people of Africa and the likes of the Rothschilds of this world. I’m sure with a little imagination we can come up with something better.
Hear, hear!
Is this simply economic espianage..
Yes I agree, a flat structure is very inefficient. It’s basically too complex and uncontrollable, and too unpredictable. I do a lot of programming of sophisticated computer systems and I kind of learnt this the hard way. You have to put restrictions in the system and the way the data flows, it does need to be compartmentalised so each compartment sees the input and outputs what is needed in a predictable way. In the real world its like each person must know their job and be accountable for their own patch. Even so, a strict hierarchy is also not always desirable, and the manager does need to take a look at what is going on directly on the shop floor from time to time. So you end up with a hybrid system, but as complexity rises so you need more and more restriction to keep it from falling over.
Indeed we see that with the EU and its structure is necessary for it to function at the size and complexity it is. Of course the other paradigm is a free market where you have statistical averaging and a feedback loop to keep it all running smoothly. It’s still not flat and the overall feedback loop gives it stability. It’s a lot of little hierarchies all autonomously operating and optimising for efficiency. Indeed it is the model nature employs and no one has ever managed to find a better system.
This is why the EU will fail. The opposition is adopting the free market approach and is getting fitter and stronger every day. The EU is becoming larger and larger, meaning it is less and less flexible. The biggest weakness of a tall hierarchy is its response time. Orders and information have to travel up and down the vast hierarchy, and so the time interval between a problem occurring and that going right up the system and then the correction being instituted on the bottom layers is far greater than the time it takes for the enemies of the EU to make their move. And they will their moves and like the Roman Empire found out it will loose control in far away places. The EU’s enemies will use the Internet to shave its response time down even further. It’s hard to find a good thing said about the EU on the Internet these days. Lol!
The Baron, as usual, hits the nail right on the head, especially regarding the EU.
This monstrosity is an embryonic Super-State which intends to be a Totalitarian Fascist
European Ruler. Then comes the NORTH AMERICAN UNION, with the Amero as its currency, followed by the African and Asian Unions etc. THIS makes the NWO which Gordon Brown is constantly voicing.
If the UK can get out of the EU, this would be the first step towards our independence. So DON’T vote for the Tories, Labour or the Lib-Dems on JUNE 4th.. They are ALL dedicated Federalists. Vote UKIP or even BNP. Anything but the 3 main parties who are Traitors.
Nothing to do with the Rothschilds!? They own the controlling stake by proxy. All of there business dealings are done this way to hide their immense wealth. This is the Richest family in the world you are talking about here, they probably have more wealth that the top 100 on the rich lists put together. Evelyn De Rothchild is the Godfather of the Banking gangs and owns most of the land in Isreal – not to mention the Queens grand visier / advisor….
http://www.russiatoday.com/About_Us/Blogs/Untimely_Thoughts.html
Peter Lavelle’s blog | 10 April, 2009, 08:57 | The great paradigm shift
Over the past week, the makings of the new world order crossed paths with the dying ancien regime. The G20 gave us a glimpse of what is coming into being – a truly multilateral global order – and NATO demonstrated on its 60th anniversary that is no longer up to the job of ensuring global security. The world as we have known it is coming to an end before our very eyes – and this is for the better.
The G20 meeting was a micromanaged success. Participants wisely signed up to a number of initial compromises to deal with the global financial crisis. Much more needs to be done, but there is at growing awareness that the financial order called the “Washington consensus” has run its course.
The liberal Anglo-Saxon economic philosophy that has ruled the world for over 60 years is slowly, but very surely being put to rest. In London, the Americans and the British fought to keep government and international regulation of financial markets off the agenda. They failed. The writing is on the wall – unfettered Western-style capitalism is on the wane. The real winners in London were China, what is called “Old Europe,” and actually most of the world.
Government fiscal injections – and in the case of the U.S. simply printing money – is not the best way out of the slump. The world doesn’t really need financial stimulus packages; it needs a major overhaul of how financial markets are run. This means the reckless, irresponsible and greedy bankers and financiers should no longer be able to call the shots.
We will see the start of a process that will finally democratise the international financial system, which of course will benefit the many over the traditional few in the West. Expect to see the interests and demands of the BRIC countries and others to play stronger leadership roles on the international stage. This process won’t happen overnight, but it has started and there is no turning back.
Two other issues that came out of the final G20 communiqué are noteworthy, but largely misunderstood or purposely underplayed: individual countries’ nationalisation of their banking sectors and a real attempt to start and manage globalisation.
Currently, nationalising banks may be one of the pillars of casting the new world financial and economic order. For some, this is a radical step and a sign of embracing “socialism.”
Well, old Cold War taboos like this do not belong in the present or the future. Privately owned and outrageously de-regulated banking got us all in this mess and for a certain interval individual states and international bodies should oversee how our money is used (to make sure it is not abused) and invested. How long is a “certain interval?”
This is unclear at this point. However, until there are assurances the irresponsibility and the greed of the few have been mandated out of this banking process, and states and internationally transparent bodies should be given a wide berth to run the global financial system.
The global financial crisis has also – albeit unexpectedly – created an opening to manage globalisation. Under globalisation, states have lost control of exports, production, and labour. This was because the financial system and its regulation were essentially privatised to serve the interests of the few. Once money flows are controlled and made more transparent, there is some hope that globalisation can be harnessed for the benefit of all; particularly the world’s poorest and least able to protect themselves.
The current international security arrangement is on its last legs. NATO’s 60th birthday was an embarrassment – the dust and growing mould of a dying alliance was easy to spot.
Alliance members, including U.S. President Barack Obama, made a big deal of inducting Albania and Croatia into NATO.
Hello! Reality check: how in the world can Albania and Croatia help fulfil NATO’s greatest challenge of stabilising Afghanistan?
What does NATO stand for? There is no clear answer to this question. NATO countries supported Obama’s “surge” agenda, but at the same time they wished the U.S. the best without signing up to their own troops to fight the cause. So much for the coalition of the willing.
NATO has grudgingly reengaged Russia after its very critical stance over the Georgia conflict. But it also understands that any positive movement in Afghanistan (and Pakistan) cannot happen without Russia’s cooperation. Russia has its security interests when it comes to the post-Soviet space, but at the same time is in agreement that something has to be done to stabilise these two countries. NATO looks weak and without direction – since the end of the Cold War, NATO can’t figure out what it wants to be.
NATO came into being in a different era with a very specific mission: defend Western Europe and the North Atlantic space against Soviet aggression. It achieved this goal. Since 1991, the alliance has rendered itself as unhelpful and basically useless. NATO should accept the paradigm shift and transform itself into something new and useful, which should include Russia as a real and trusted partner.
The era of using other people’s money for profit is coming to a close. And the time of security for the few at the expense of others is almost over. These are the basics of the paradigm shift. Getting used to this won’t be easy, but at the end of the day both will create a fairer world order.
First published at the Moscow News
I think the pigs will be flying soon. What planet is this fellow on. Instead of NWO we now have the FWO, forgive my cynicism but these evil bastards are not about to give up their power. It should be plain to see that their power is about to be concentrated.
Nations are an illusion. The world structure is a pyramid, with most of the people at the bottom. The people at the bottom look up and see many millions of problems and are unable to agree on a plan. The way to look at the problem is from above where there is only one problem with many millions of branches. The branches are only symptoms, remove one and another one takes it place. We could go on for eternity cutting off branches and would only be running in place wearing ourselves out. We instead need to see that it is only one problem(global elite sociopaths that control all nations) and many symptoms that are only there to keep the masses focused on instead of the real problem. Figure out how to take down the 13 bloodline families would be a good start. Any suggestions.
Private military force? Can we afford Blackwater?
unfortunately Blackwater is part of the problem. They are in tight with the “Republicans”. About the only thing that would work is about 3- 4 billion(b as in boy) people woke up and were on the same page. You would stand a better chance living till you seen your 170th generation grandchild.
Yeah I know they’re part of the problem. They’re mercenaries!! Sickening isn’t it? But if we had that 3 or 4 billion wake up and add a quid to the kitty they’d be OUR mercenaries then, just as the elite will do when they’ve done their job, we get rid of them!!
LOL
After all, being mercenaries they’re just paid hands and the scum of the earth!
The Economy chapter on my site describes the newspaper reports on the BoE from 1793 – 1844 and indicates how value was removed from the British domestic economy and replaced with credit. That was the beginning.
But this slight local difficulty we are about to have in maintaining our existence is not actually a difficult problem for us.
There is really no need to go out in the rain, waving banners and shouting, and frighten the policemen – this problem is about money and all that is required to persuade our representatives to recall their duty is to remove our money from the banks, sell the shares, and keep our funds under the mattress.
If we co-ordinate our actions, we can recover democracy and return government to Westminister in a couple of months.
Roger,
Your website is a fantastic piece of work.
Cheers,
Mike.
I’ve already done it and hope that enough people will wake up and do the same. There is also the option of non-violent non-cooperation where workers (other than doctors, nurses & other key workers) refuse to go to work, in effect they get off the machine. This would produce good results in a short period of time – less than a week in my estimation. But again, we need enough people to climb aboard.
The following is from an article, written by Professor Bob Blain, which appeared in the June 1994 issue of the Progressive Review:
By 1993 federal debt was $4.4 trillion. From 1790 to 1993, taxpayers were charged $3.2 trillion in interest on federal debt. The original debt of $75 million at 5.37 percent interest compounded annually for 204 years is $3.2 trillion. The original debt at 5.53 percent interest compounded for 204 years equals $4.4 trillion. The present federal debt is arguably the original debt enlarged by 204 years of compounding interest.
According to the Federal Reserve Bulletin, the total money supply (currency, travelers checks, demand deposits, and savings accounts) in the U.S. economy in March 1993 was $4 trillion. The total debt of the federal government, state and local governments, corporations, farmers, home buyers, and consumers was in excess of $15 trillion. If the total money supply is $4 trillion, where is the other $11 trillion of borrowed money?
Here is another curious fact. We have been told for years that government borrowing to cover hundreds of billions of dollars of deficits would drive interest rates through the roof. Instead, interest rates have fallen dramatically. In March, 1993 they were between 4.9 and 2.2 percent, far below what they were in the early 1980s when federal debt was a small fraction of what it is now.
The explanation for these anomalies is that the missing money never existed. We never borrowed it, in the normal sense that it was turned over to us and spent. Most debt is not the result of people borrowing money; it is the result of people not being able to repay what they owed at some earlier time. Instead of declaring them bankrupt, creditors just add more to their debt.
The privilege of creating and issuing money is not only the supreme prerogative of government, but is the government’s greatest creative opportunity. By the adoption of these principles, the taxpayers will be saved immense sums of interest. — Abraham Lincoln.
The power to deal with this problem that Congress has neglected all these years is the power “to coin money and regulate the value thereof.” It has overused its power “to borrow money on the credit of the United States.” According to the Federal Reserve, 98 percent of the U.S. money supply is borrowed. Only 2 percent is coined.
The First Congress set the wrong precedent. It should have created $75 million in money and paid off the debt. With a population of 4 million people and an economy starved for a medium of exchange, that would have increased the money supply by $18.75 per person.
Why did the First Congress borrow instead of coin money? Newspapers at the time accused members of Congress of acting to serve their own interests. They sent agents into the countryside to buy up debt certificates that the general public thought were worthless. They then passed the Funding Act knowing that it would give themselves and their heirs a source of income that would grow exponentially with the debt. For every debtor there is a creditor. What is a $4 trillion debt for debtors is $4 trillion in claims for creditors.
The Guernsey experience. . .
Guernsey is an island state located among the British Channel Islands about 75 miles south of Great Britain. In 1816 its sea walls were crumbling, its roads were muddy and only 4 1/2 feet wide. Guernsey’s debt was 19,000 pounds. The island’s annual income was 3,000 pounds of which 2,400 had to be used to pay interest on its debt. Not surprisingly, people were leaving Guernsey and there was little employment.
Then the government created and loaned new, interest-free state notes worth 6,000 pounds. Some 4,000 pounds were used to start the repairs of the sea walls. In 1820, another 4,500 pounds was issued, again interest-free. In 1821, another 10,000; 1824, 5,000; 1826, 20,000. By 1837, 50,000 pounds had been issued interest free for the primary use of projects like sea walls, roads, the marketplace, churches, and colleges. This sum more than doubled the island’s money supply during this thirteen year period, but there was no inflation. In the year 1914, as the British restricted the expansion of their money supply due to World War I, the people of Guernsey commenced to issue another 142,000 pounds over the next four years and never looked back. By 1958, over 542,000 pounds had been issued, all without inflation.
In 1990 there was $13 million in interest-free state issued notes. A visitor to the island that year later wrote:
“I returned from Guernsey last weekend. It is a fascinating little island. There are about 60,000 permanent residents on the island. The average family owns 3.3 cars, their unemployment rate is zero and their standard of living is very high. There is no public debt. There is a surplus of public funds which earn interest. The Guernsey Treasury increased the Ml of the island by 40 percent in the last three-year period, and this increase did not do anything to inflation. The price for a gallon of gasoline in England translates to about $5US whereas, the price in Guernsey is about $2US. Contrary to the teachings of current economics in all higher institutions, inflation is not related to the volume of money but rather to the size of the commercial debt.”
Benjamin Franklin attributed the economic success of the colonies to their creation of all the money they needed. He said that the root cause of the Revolution was the act of Parliament that prohibited the colonies from continuing to issue their own money. The moneylenders of England thought it more profitable that the colonies borrow their money.
We hear from Washington that we need to sacrifice to bring the deficits under control — cut consumption, save, and invest. When that slows the economy, we will be told to spend more to stimulate the economy. We have heard it all before. Neither method works. We need debt-free interest-free money to fund the work that needs to be done. It’s not sacrifice we need; it’s productive employment. Let Congress use its unique power to coin money and regulate its value to fund that employment.
Money is no more than an accounting device, a system of notes certifying that the bearer has done a share of the work and deserves a share of the wealth. Money’s backing is the goods and services produced by the labor force. By creating money Congress can activate the idle productive power of our people. And what they produce will add real wealth to the U.S. Treasury and add nothing to the federal debt.
Bob Blain, Ph.D., is Professor of Sociology at Southern Illinois University at Edwardsville. His research on the history of U.S. public and private has been published in the International Social Science Journal of UNESCO, Paris.
Unfortunately hell will freeze over before Congress(opposite of progress) defies their bosses and does what the masses(cannon fodder) want. The only way to accomplish this is to get probably 70% of the worlds masses together and take on the elite. Unfortunately hell would again have to freeze or before getting that many people to agree on what the problem is.
I think you have something important there Mark. Thanks for the input.
All the unemployed chaps I know actually want to work it just the system does not permit them to. I suppose the reason is the capitalist makes his money whether the market goes up or down. Now we are in a bust with everything supposed to go down, he has to sell short to profit. That means businesses must become less profitable and therefore they layoff staff.
Guernsey’s money issues are a fascinating example of how it works – we just need to assume control of the issues in our own countries in the name of the people and not permit the benefits to be monopolised by the usual suspects any more.
Our naivety has just gone on so long because we (en masse) would never have considered this to be the case and anyone who would have suggested such “conspiracy” labelled a “nut” – which many still are. BUT, this tool called internet IS an issue for these people because it brings so many others into contact who have taken the time to do the research and learn from others’ research and then the masses begin to learn and the snowball effect takes place. Then we get to the point where this tool enables such an exponential learning curve that the masses fully recognise the con.
I can readily say this because only a year ago, I was one of the sleeping masses. I didn’t have a clue and would never have believed this “garbage”.
Guernsey is a WONDERFUL example. It doesn’t matter that it is on a small scale. It is how Lincoln, McFadden and others would have worked things to a greater or lesser extent in the States.
Roger, sorry the above reply went haywire and only displayed part of my message.
I was saying at the beginning of it:
“I suppose the reason is the capitalist makes his money whether the market goes up or down. Now we are in a bust with everything supposed to go down, he has to sell short to profit.”
That is exactly it. And it is recognising that the ultimate capitalists at the top of the pyramid simply have corrupted the “free market capitalism” that, when allowed to work, does a decent job. By corrupting it to the extent they have, they have ensured our loss of confidence in it while we are still led to believe it IS capitalism. It simply isn’t.
These people at the top of the pyramid have made their $billions/$trillions out of the corrupt control of the west’s capitalist system. People like Soros shorting the pound when he did and shorting the mortgage market last year and most recently pumping $billions into Goldman Sachs are NOT “economic visionaries” as they are promoted as being. They are corrupt capitalists at the top who are part of the decision making process of what is going to happen next OR they are well enough “insiders” to be in the know. They don’t make their $billions through sheer talent at predicting economics. Not at all. That is fallacy.
Paulson & Co were the highest earners in the Hedge fund market last year. Why?
Alan Greenspan joined as consultant in January 2008. That’s why.
Roger, if you don’t mind. Could you take a look at that question I asked of Sharon on April 15th. I’m just trying to get to a point which could be way of base but if you could just answer the question I pose from your own perspective. Just very simply. Is the most fundamental major issue with inflating a currency’s actual money supply that of devaluation of the currency? I recognise it causes actual price inflation etc but is the underlying issue which stops us using “quantative easing” or increase in printing more money, the devaluation of the currency thereafter?
“At a Gala dinner in Leeds, On October the 21st 2008, Mervyn King, the acting Governor of the Bank of England, announced to a sombre audience that the bank finds itself in the same position it faced at the onset of the Great War in the summer of 1914, however, he made no mention of how the then Secretary to the Treasury – John Bradbury – solved that identical problem back then by intervening with an issue of 500 million Treasury Notes which were given to the banks free of charge to stop them collapsing after they ran out of enough gold coins to redeem the millions of baseless “Promises to Pay” that they had issued to a unsuspecting public. He could have recommended similar measures on this occasion but chose, instead, to remain silent. Three days later, Mr. Bean, the appropriately named Deputy Governor of the Bank of England, announced that the crisis was the worst in the entire history of mankind
1988. The reason why these ‘cures’ continue to fail were pointed out in the summer of 1988 by Economics Professor John. H. Hotson Chairman of C.O.M.E.R. Committee On Economic & Monetary Reform, at Waterloo University, Ontario, Canada. Who said in the organization’s news letter:-”Here we go again! John Crow, the new head of the Bank of Canada and Allan Greenspan, the new man at the Federal Reserve Board have given a lot of speeches and interviews lately saying that if there is one thing they can’t stand it’s inflation. So they are going to get inflation down to zero any day now, even if it kills somebody [or every body]! Yes, they are going to haul inflation down to zero with high interest rates. Now that’s never worked before. The fact is that, we’ve had inflation in every year, but one, since the Bank of Canada was invented in 1934. The facts also suggest that if our political leaders allow Greenspan and Crow to play doctor with the economy that the result will be a replay of 1979-83 if we are lucky or a re-run of 1929-39 if we are not. When you get right down to it, there are at least eight things wrong with the policy of trying to stop the price level from increasing by increasing the rate of interest. (1) The Policy is immoral. (2) The policy is illegal. (3) The Policy is irrational. (4) The Policy has surrendered North America’s leadership to the Japanese. (5) The Policy has made all our problems worse. (6) The – Policy has caused the large U.S., Canadian [and British] foreign trade deficits. (7) The Policy has increased the [fractional reserve] banking systems natural propensity to self destruct. And (8) The Policy has resulted in a world wide debt crisis where our only choices appear to be between, world wide debt repudiation, depression, and accelerating inflation. Except for these shortcomings, high interest rates are a pretty good policy.”
*1993 ANTHONY NELSON – H.M. TREASURY: The Government can and does finance itself to a small extent by the issue of non-interest bearing money: this is the aggregate known as M0, the stock of which is currently some £19.5 billion. The size of the stock of M0 is limited by the demand for this form of money.
BRIAN GOULD: On February the 19th 1993; New Statesman & Society, published the following statement by Brian Gould, speaking as the Labour Member of Parliament for Dagenham, in which he said: – “Why not commit a Labour government to two simple targets – full employment and a decent home for all? And if the private banking sector persist in its failure to develop a system of industrial banking, why not use the power of the state to make good that deficiency by setting up a major publicly owned investment bank? And while we are about it, why shouldn’t a socially aware and economically responsible government create credit where appropriate in order to ensure that essential investment is made and at the same time strike a great blow for the democratic control of the economy?
LORD ACTON: “Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupt absolutely…the issue which has swept down the centuries and must be fought sooner or later – is the people versus the banks.”
*THIS HISTORY (THE OTHER ROAD TO SERFDOM) PROVES THAT – LIKE ALL THE OTHER RECESSIONS SINCE 1694 – THIS ONE COULD BE ENDED IN 24 HOURS AND THE OTHER ROAD TO SERFDOM AVERTED USING THE “QUANTITATIVE” EXPANSION OF THE M0 AGGREGATE FROM 2% TO 100% – THEY ARE LYING WHEN THEY SAY THEY NEED TO CUT PUBLIC SERVICES & RAISE TAXES.
EDITOR: THE OTHER ROAD TO SERFDOM – HOW UNREGULATED CAPITAL CAUSED THE CRA$H OF 2008. ISBN:978-81-8274-394-6
Mervyn King needs hung and I’ll tell you why:
That Asia Times article I quote in my first post refers to the following article:
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/EE22Ak03.html
Within which it states:
“An influential Jewish European banker reveals that the ruling elite in Europe is now telling their minions that the West is on the brink of total financial meltdown; so the only way to save their precious investments is to bet on the new global crisis centered around the Middle East, which replaced the crisis evolving around the Cold War.”
Now, there is just NO getting away from the fact that this was an actual report from a Bilderberg conference on or prior to May 2003!!
The attendees from the UK at that conference included Ken Clarke (Bilderberg steering committee) AND Mervyn King!
While there is further evidence by way of news reports even earlier (around Oct/Nov 2002) that Rothschild et al were planning something, this is nothing less than s smoking gun. It really just simply cannot be ignored! Yet for some inexplicable reason, it is!!
If someone could come up with a logical answer as to why this is ignored as so massive an expose, I’d appreciate it.
People have continuously said to me “Well of course they knew it was coming” (meaning the likes of Brown and Darling). While I’m sure they did – after all people like Clarke and King don’t become privy to such without it being passed on to the likes of Blair and Brown – I then ask this question: Look at the statements which both, Brown AND Darling made to the IMF in their respective capacities as UK Chancellor (you can search their statements on the IMF website).
They talk of economic issues etc from even prior to 2003 BUT they are nothing out of the ordinary. They go on (both at different times through the years post 2003 and pre 2008) to talk of the UK’s VERY STRONG economic capability to withstand any recessionary effects and to see a long, strong growth in economic terms in the years ahead.
So where I’ve been told time and again, “anyone could have seen this coming”. I take such with a pinch of salt.
Brown and Darling’s speeches to the IMF during the intervening years between 2003 and 2008 were either exposes of how entirely incapable they are OR that they are exceptional liars. I’d almost (just almost) be willing to suggest that Darling is incapable (or was carried along on a wave by Brown) but when it comes to Brown. HE was the one who sold that gold at bottom dollar and HE is the one who has driven the entire “New World Order” agenda time and again.
HE is (and if you’re listening Brown, by all means take me on) the most obvious TRAITOR.
Get BROWN, CLARKE & others to come out from behind their parliamentary protective bubbles and face the music. Live TV. Panel of “Judges” of concerned British Citizens asking them direct questions. Put them on the spot on a number of issues.
Let’s see them wriggle when they have to answer a country on a number of items they could never answer for the answers are steeped in deception, lies and total corruption.
But they simply don’t have the GUTS! Because when the truth was out the country would crucify them!
Quote Mark Welsh
“If the total money supply is $4 trillion, where is the other $11 trillion of borrowed money?”
Good question. That is enough money to supply a few continents, and if it were being spent then we would surely see a lot of people looking extremely rich. To put things into perspective, the most expensive house in London is currently on the market for £100 million, and owned by an Arab who paid £33 million in 2006.
So we must conclude that it is not being spent. Maybe they have that money on paper somewhere, and maybe they will use it to back a global currency. I think this is more like what is going on. Of course if the global currency was backed by this amount then it would be stronger than currencies that have had their backing removed, e.g. the British pound, that is now backed by £10 billion less in gold than it once was, thanks to dimwit Brown, who sold it at the bottom of the market.
I’m sure this is just the tip of the iceberg though, because the pound has dropped dramatically against the euro, and the dollar does not look too good either. Something has to make these currencies drop, they don’t do it by their own accord, they sell at what they are worth. I think the drop in interest rates is also deliberate, though I’m wondering what they will do now inflation is on its way up. I don’t attribute the decline of the pound purely on interest cuts since many currencies have dropped interest rates in the same time frame.
I think they still pay those banker bonuses in order to keep the bankers mouths well and truly shut. That’s not an optional expense in their eyes!
The money is disappearing onto balance sheets and ledgers. Consider the size of worthless derivatives paper out there – it’s estimated at about one quadrillion dollars of outstanding “debt,” once otc derivatives are taken into account. No-one know exactly, because otc contracts are largely private and off the balance sheet.
That’s a pretty unimaginable number, isn’t it? It shows the scale of the bubble they inflated over the last 20 years. This is the true danger – because while it was just paper, there were no obvious inflationary effects.
But now, rather than writing off these gambling debts, they’re printing money to cover the debt. This is a real hyperinflationary timebomb they are creating – quite intentionally. This is how they are backing the global currency – by making sure no other currency is worth the paper its printed on.
AUDITING THEN ENDING THE ELITE CONTROL OF THE FED, B of E, IMF etc:
WE should be doing this in the UK!!
Now I can send ALL of you who want it an entire list of emails for almost every MP in Parliament. I don’t GIVE A DAMN what they say about “we can’t answer to anyone who isn’t our constituent”. That is simply a way of controlling them and boxing them in.
What I’d like to see EVERYONE doing on this site is sending an email to THEIR MP and copy ALL other MPs on this list with the demand that we have an audit of the BOE and the BOEN. For goodness sakes, ANY Corporation or company on earth requires to be audited for legal purposes yet we DON’T have our very own Central Banks audited? So let’s assume they have nothing to hide (yeah right! Official secrets act etc) then why on earth is there no audit of these organisations?
HOW CAN WE POSSIBLY IGNORE THIS? THIS IS WHERE THE PROVERBIAL STARTS AND ENDS. This is exactly where we know the corruption has existed now for decades/centuries.
So there is NO excuse for not sending that email. Not one of us. Not two or 10 or 100. Thousands and tens of thousands of us.
If you are serious in your intent to change this country for the better then THIS is where you must start.
Omitted the basis of my stating the above!!!
Sorry!
Subject: HR 1207 Now in Committee!
A message to all members of End The Fed Network
In a major breakthrough for our movement, Ron Paul’s bill to Audit the Fed has been referred to the House Committee on Financial Services.. That’s a HUGE step forward.
NOW is the time to bring all of our efforts to bear on the situation.
If we can get the bill out of Committee it will go to the House floor for a vote!
Let’s step up our efforts to collect petition signatures to support HR 1207.
The Repeal the Fed petition has been amended to also support HR 1207 to Audit the Fed.
Download it here: http://endthefed.us/media/RepealPetition.pdf
(NOTE: We will be sending petition signatures to Ron Paul’s Congressional Office, the Campaign for Liberty and your local Congressional and Senatorial offices instead of the ETF mailing address from now on. More on this to follow.
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During the festivities on April 25th, let’s maximize out petition signature collection efforts as well as educational efforts. Try to include a location which allows for interaction with the public in your plans.
After April 25th, let’s renew our efforts to support these bills and redouble our signature gathering.
Repeal/Audit the Fed Petition:
http://endthefed.us/media/RepealPetition.pdf
http://www.campaignforliberty.com/campaigns/auditthefed.php
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Your Friend in Freedom,
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Steve
It would be nice if it worked however there are charges against the Fereral Reserve oustanding since 1934 Louis Mcfadden tried hard but was bumped off , it took 3 times to kill him
See charge below
On May 23, 1933, Congressman, Louis T. McFadden, brought formal charges against the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve Bank system, The Comptroller of the Currency and the Secretary of United States Treasury for numerous criminal acts, including but not limited to, CONSPIRACY, FRAUD, UNLAWFUL CONVERSION, AND TREASON.
The petition for Articles of Impeachment was thereafter referred to the Judiciary Committee and has
YET TO BE ACTED ON.
So, this ELECTRONIC BOOKLET should be reprinted, reposted,
set up on web pages and circulated far and wide.
I have just heard some utter tosh on the BBC World ‘Service’. The news is Goldman Sachs is to repay its government bailout loan pretty sharpish and leave the taxpayer without a bill, while it goes off and makes some money without the regulations the government can impose due to holding a financial stake. It seem the shareholders have decided that because the government won’t tell them what regulations to expect then this creates an unacceptable risk, so quite rightly in my view, they have decided the free market is best and want to get back to business.
You should have heard what the BBC man had to say though. I mean I have heard some utter nonsense in my time, but this takes the biscuit. Apparently according to BBC logic the taxpayer will be angry at their decision to repay them in full, and certainly even angrier when they see them making money during a time when the bailout banks tied to government restrictions won’t be, as they will be uncompetitive. Work that one out if you can. BBC man obviously worries that ‘come the revolution’ Goldman Sachs might spoil the party, by making capitalism look too popular.
These communist BBC presenters are getting very transparent of late. Another cracker was on earlier where the mood was as sombre as a funeral. The US isn’t playing ball with some UN racism stitch-up conference/agreement business. Who knows though, maybe the Americans are becoming regular readers of are UK Column!
Not being a “finance whiz”, I find this article difficult to grasp entirely I admit, but what I do smell from it is a big rat. Insiders at work again. Again, we have nothing else here but people who will be “in the know” (and corrupt as hell) making massive profits out of nothing. NOT EVEN intelligent speculation but simply by being one of the boys. It’s THEIR game not OURS.
Many might say this is just me being envious. No. Not at all. This is me being sickened by the fact that this so called “Capitalism” again is not a level playing field and is managed and manipulated by criminal elements at the expense of anyone and everyone else.
This is pure transference of wealth once more in the ugliest of fashions.
http://www.moneymorning.com/2009/04/21/citigroup-stock-2/
Yes but I think there is something even dirtier going on here. If you look at how the financial markets are structured they are not as bad as they could be. I mean there is more of a free market operating than, let’s say, where we have 6 energy companies supplying the UK.
One of the reasons it is a freer market is simply its size, and of course there are still a lot of players in it. Aside from what we know of the derivatives markets and so forth I think it is important to recognise that the money masters are using this to make capitalism into a dirty word. They want us to get angry about it, as I illustrated with what the man from the BBC was desperately trying to convince us with.
I mean the financial markets are the lifeblood of our democracy, since if we had it entirely state run it would be like a prison. That’s the goal but individual shareholders are not that stupid, indeed anyone with a lot of money is generally very smart. That’s why Goldman Sachs’ shareholders rebelled and that is why Barclay’s shareholders voted to raise its own money and turn down state holdings in the company. They will see exactly how shrewd that move was when the state starts to run the others. Check the history of British Leyland if you want to know how that will work out.
I agree Baron. They most certainly want people to turn their backs on capitalism BUT for all the wrong reasons. They’re going to use stealth while “attacking” the masses who are ignorant of what is really going on and have a “Problem, Reaction, Solution” to arrive at the very point they have wished to instigate. Holding up the scapegoats and saying “Well, if you want us to do something about this, this is what we need to do”.
We NEED education toward the masses regarding the whole central banking/money creation con!
And UK Column/B.C. Group etc: We need it FAST!
Just seen your note referring to your query to Sharon of 15th April. My penny’s worth follows. I apologise for the length – if you wish to edit it, be my guest Marc:
You ask about the major fear of inflating the currency?
All Western countries inflate their currencies – it is one of the important means of taxing production but it is generally reprobated because it reduces the value of savings. The EU for instance puts a limit of 2-3 percent per year on unjustified printing, it being supposed that any greater tax might repel investment, and that level seems to have become the norm in the West.
Most of Asia has been more prudent and been punished for it. India is exceptional – they have inflated their currency by very large amounts at the behest of the west and apparently Singh expects to avoid or suppress domestic social unrest. The Indian will continue poor for a long time.
Right now people in the west with savings are the ones who are paying-off the debts of the banks and insurers. Inflation is only a major fear if your country is on its own. It used to be said that you got an advantage in export markets but the way payments for international trade are made instantly these days has expunged that advantage. Today the threat of currency inflation sends money overseas or, if not exportable, into a domestic market offering real value – commodities for example. Even here the prudent man is prey to the perverted system. London is a world centre of management of commodity prices. COMEX defeats the natural results of increased investment by encouraging a market in paper commodities and thus keeping a lid on price increases due to purchasing. Today inflation is global, and consequently the usual fears of inflation, the fear of the neighbours becoming more competitive, is irrelevant.
It appears the AngloAmericans who drive the system will increase the money supply for as long as it takes to soak up banking/insurance debts. Whilst everyone is in the same hole, this simply means adding another zero to the cost of things. Wage-earners will then start to contribute for wage-bargaining always lags the real economy by months or years.
The reason the money injections have not been inflationary so far, so far as my understanding of it goes, is because banks/insurers have lost all of it and much more in the games they were playing until the demise of Lehmans revealed the Emperor wore no clothes – Fuld’s revenge, you might call it.
It was then exposed as inadequate security and more or less the entire western banking industry was and is bankrupt. The investments had become worth several trillion dollars less than paid for. The game the guys have been playing for many months is in the stock and commodity markets. They would like to resurrect the bond markets too but that is too big for the moment.
Then with balance sheets asserting an excess of assets over liabilities, we will return to exactly the same situation as before. This is the way the game is being played. Basically, the intention is to re-create the same system we have just seen to be absurdly unstable. Does anyone remember the caterwauling about tax havens a while ago? Fast forward a week and its ‘what tax havens?’ Today the OECD has none on its blacklist.
I regret to say we are being trifled with. One of the important responsibilities of the free press is to fly as many kites as possble – ‘let a hundred flowers bloom’ Mao would say. As a result of this obfuscation of reality, only insiders have an idea of the direction of affairs, and they simply instruct the political frontmen appropriately.
If we wish to recover government ‘for the people, by the people’ etc., and make it a feature of our countries instead of an aspect of college education, we need to use our united power.
It is lucidly apparent that the scallywags in Washington, or better New York, and London intend to persuade us people to spend (or borrow and spend) and thus save their backsides. If we do this we really have become slaves. We owe it to our children and grand-children, who will be picking up the tab, to make a stand and we do that by not co-operating with government until government co-operates with us. We will not keep our money in banks where it is used to grow the banker’s ability to predate on us. We will not support the stock market which, in any event, is set for a frightful tumble soon.
We keep our money at home and lose nothing by it because interest rates are laughably low; we commence co-operatives with our neighbours not just for food and clothing but for the full range of social services; we opt-out of the credit system and create our own, based on value.
And we continue to do so until we start to hear the sounds we expect to hear from our purported representatives. Those chaps have been subverted by constituency associations and whips and become quite unsuitable for their intended purpose. Our action will release them from the factions that presently control them. We will then require them to endorse our policy to convert existing government debt into long annuities and pay-off the national debt. This will liberate the political classes from their submission to commerce and permit them to act on behalf of the entire electorate.
We require a constitutional undertaking never again to build an economy on debt; a continuous government focus on maintaining and improving infrastructure using all the new technologies that come to hand; we probably want to replace the intellectual property scam with one-off cash rewards and bring an end to patenting and copyright; I personally would like to see an end to limited liability except for those risky ventures that we may be expected to attempt if encouraged to do so – space exploration and colonisation, for example. In education I should like to see an end to the nonsense about certificates – its is the most blatant expression of our enslavement, PhD Plumbing indeed! Our educational centres should be centres of real learning
But, before we start, we need to organise a convention of the people to see if a preponderance of us are really concerned to take control of our lives. If it turns out that a majority of us prefer for others to do our thinking, then we should buckle down to it and hope for the best.
Roger, Sorry but that was just a LITTLE more than I had expected (and thoroughly lost me if I’m honest). I do not believe it has to be as complex as this. They MAKE it complex.
I was just asking what is the bottom line concern about printing more money. Now if you take what Ron Paul (Congressman) states continuously – and he’s been proven right time and time again – He states clearly that all of this increase of $trillions is just going to make the dollar’s value crash through the floor.
So, I take it that the fundamental is that by printing money, it devalues that particular currency against all others.
I’m looking for the FUNDAMENTAL impact.
Yes, you are right Mark. More credit = higher prices = lower money value.
Control of the paper issue allows Governments some ability to get around the obvious results of inflationary acts.
They routinely manipulate the ‘cost of living’ index (or whatever its called these days) and they manipulate commodity costs through all sorts of quaint fiddles (buffer stock management and derivative, paper, markets) thus defrauding consumers on the one hand and producers on the other.
In the economy imagine that everything is afloat on a turbulent choppy sea, going up and down unpredictably – that’s a fair approximation of the actual situation. It is a result of dispensing with fixed value and substituting flexible credit. In other words the unpredictability is our chosen preference or so that nice Mr Brown will tell you.
Thanks Roger. Then forgive me for being so absolutely simplistic (but I KNOW it is, in fact, as downright simple as this):
Single World Currency aimed for by elites = “The answer”
All the world’s ills taken care of in one go.
The NWO is the way to go.
Why?
Single Currency = No other currency to devalue against therefore more credit cannot mean higher prices and lower money value for money value is a comparison with other currencies.
No other currencies = No issue. Print as much as you wish!
I’m playing a game here I hope you appreciate but a very valid one!
At a fundamental level. Have these corrupt SOBs argue that one!
They will but it will be based on absolute downright deception once more.
For decades they have argued the devaluation of currency being the “killer factor”. Now they would, under a single currency, need to change that argument entirely.
They will start to talk of “production scarcity” and “resource scarcity”.
All total fallacy and they know it.
Overpopulation? When every man woman and child of the 6.5billion people on the planet could be given 1/4 acre of land EACH! And it STILL wouldn’t cover an area the size of Australia while the entire rest of the world’s landmass remains empty.
Let’s GET REAL HERE!
Global Warming that is continued to be “sold” to the masses on the basis of Al Gore’s absolute claptrap which his mentor, whom he “stole the fire” from, admits he was wrong in his original assessment but the whole fairy story has grown tentacles and we’re all “bought in”.
Meanwhile Gore and all the Corporate “Green” projects make $billions.
Then, we have Western media completely ignoring a major report from Japan’s Energy Commission
Friday, Feb 27th, 2009
“A major scientific report by leading Japanese academics concludes that global warming is not man-made and that the overall warming trend from the mid-part of the 20th Century onwards has now stopped.”
“The report was undertaken by Japan Society of Energy and Resources (JSER), the academic society representing scientists from the energy and resource fields.”
“The JSER acts as a government advisory panel, much like the International Panel on Climate Change did for the UN”.
Meanwhile, we ignore outright deception and lies for years such as the following:
ALL just simply facts. No “conspiracy”. Just facts.
15 March 2001
India joins anti-Taliban coalition
By Rahul Bedi
India is believed to have joined Russia, the USA and Iran in a concerted front against Afghanistan’s Taliban regime.
Military sources in Delhi, claim that the opposition Northern Alliance’s capture of the strategic town of Bamiyan, was precipitated by the four countries’ collaborative effort.
The 13 February fall of Bamiyan, after several days of heavy fighting, threatened to cut off the only land route from Kabul to Taliban troops in northern Afghanistan. However, media reports indicate that Taliban forces recaptured the town on 17 February.
http://www.janes.com/security/internatio...
Tuesday, 18 September, 2001, 11:27 GMT 12:27 UK
US ‘planned attack on Taleban’
The wider objective was to oust the Taleban
By the BBC’s George Arney
A former Pakistani diplomat has told the BBC that the US was planning military action against Osama Bin Laden and the Taleban even before last week’s attacks.
Niaz Naik, a former Pakistani Foreign Secretary, was told by senior American officials in mid-July that military action against Afghanistan would go ahead by the middle of October.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_a...
In the summer of 2001, while the American media kept the people distracted with “All Condit All The Time”, the US Government was informing other governments that we would be at war in Afghanistan no later than October.
How lucky for the US government that just when they are planning to invade another country, for the express purpose of removing that government, a convenient “terrorist” attack occurs to anger Americans into support for an invasion.
9/11 radio broadcast: “The Director of the CIA warned that there could be an attack—an imminent attack—on the United States of this nature. So this is not entirely unexpected.”
9/11 CBS9 broadcast: “There are contigency plans set to go, and the plans have been set to go for several weeks now on what to do if Osama bin Laden were to plan a very large attack, and they’ve selected targets in Afghanistan, and you can be sure that if it is Osama bin Laden that the US will probably retaliate, and retaliate massively.”
“To be truthful about it, there was no way we could have got the public consent to have suddenly launched a campaign on Afghanistan but for what happened on September 11.”
Tony Blair. July 17, 2002 [Guardian]
When asked why there is no mention of 9/11 on Bin Laden’s Most Wanted web page, [Rex Tomb, Chief of Investigative Publicity for the FBI] said, “The reason why 9/11 is not mentioned on Usama Bin Laden’s Most Wanted page is because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11.”
Kinda puts it all into perspective really now doesn’t it?
Then when it comes to Afghanistan and Bin Laden, we can’t work out plain fairy stories that don’t even hold water: Work out the “logic” in this for me will you please?
How many people don’t think “Wait a minute, you’ve been in Afghanistan for 8 years and where you started by saying it was to smoke out Osama Bin Laden and his band of merry shepherds from vast mountain “city” caves that held everything necessary to maintain a small city (Donald Rumsfeld MASSIVE fairy tale). You state that in these 7 years, you haven’t been able to capture a single Al Qaeda terrorist within such mountainous terrain because they “can hide”. YET, you KNOW that they have moved from where they were (yet you couldn’t find them and didn’t KNOW where they were) across the borders to the Pakistani frontier. And you STILL don’t know where!!”
So, seemingly, it is possible for the forces (whether American, British or Pakistani and Afghan) to detect Al Qaeda on the move – seemingly we have great motion sensors, yet when they’re operating we don’t then send in the fighters or helicopters to take them out – but they can’t find them when they are stationary? They don’t know where they were and don’t know where they now are but they detected they moved from where they didn’t know they were to where they now don’t know they are!
Is it just me that can see this astounding contradiction and numerous ones throughout the years the troops have been in Afghanistan?
“This certainly includes the leadership, including Osama Bin Laden…..”. How does it? The guy is either dead or he’s sitting on a beach in Rio with his CIA money!!
You SERIOUSLY think that a so called Arab millionaire is going to sit around in Pakistani/Afghan border mountains for 8 YEARS??????
How STUPID does this guy (and the guy before him) think we are????
“kill as many of our people as they possibly can” just for NO reason – just because “we’re free” – just as George Bush said years ago and nobody believes anymore.
These are fables and fairy tales but the sad thing is that the people telling them are confident that the mass population of ADULTS are going to swallow it. Is the human population REALLY this dumb?? Please tell me its not!
As for “Tora Bora”: NBC’s Meet The Press on December 2nd when Tim Russert, the host of the program, provided Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld with the artist’s rendering of bin Laden’s fortress. The interview proceeded:
Rumsfeld: “Oh, you bet. This is serious business. And there’s not one of those. There are many of those. And they have been used very effectively. And I might add, Afghanistan is not the only country that has gone underground. Any number of countries have gone underground. The tunneling equipment that exists today is very powerful. It’s dual use. It’s available across the globe. And people have recognized the advantages of using underground protection for themselves”.
A few weeks after the “Meet the Press” interview US special forces and their Afghan allies occupied Tora Bora. They painstakingly searched Gree Khil mountain and the surrounding area. They found no underground fortress, no hydro-electric power plant, no 2000 room hotel, no ant farm, no iron doors, no ventilating shafts. The troglodyte Lair of Bin Laden turned out to be mythic.
Then regarding the drug issue in Afghanistan:
From UK Parliament website:
Sir John Stanley discussing Afghanistan Jan 2007.
“That brings me to another specific issue: poppy cultivation. I do not know by what process the British Government agreed to take the lead on counter-narcotics after the invasion of Afghanistan. I do not know whether it was an act of heroic self-sacrifice on behalf of the Government, or plain naivety. Whichever it was, it has proved to be a seriously poisoned chalice. Poppy production was up 60 per cent. last year and is proving to be a depressingly useful source of funding for the Taliban and a means by which they can pull in what appears to be an almost unlimited supply of new recruits on the promise of $10 a day.”
“During our visit we discussed poppy cultivation and counter-narcotics for hours with a number of experts and, of course, the counter-narcotics Minister. I was satisfied that there is no simple or quick solution. No alternative cash crop can provide an income for Afghan farmers even remotely close to what can be obtained through poppy cultivation. There can be no commitment to buying in poppies for destruction at their current value because undoubtedly that would spur on further cultivation. Neither can the problem be dealt with by buying in poppies for legitimate medical use and the manufacture of morphine because that market has been taken up already by licit production in Turkey, India and Australia. Furthermore, drastic eradication by aerial spraying is ruled out by virtue of being politically unacceptable to the Afghan Government—with some justification.”
So, we can send troops in to bomb the hell out of anybody we find who looks remotely Taliban or the fabled Al Qaeda but then we have to do as we’re told when we’re confronted with a crop that kills or screws up massive numbers of our people every year on year far more than Al Qaeda ever did because its “politically unacceptable to the Afghan government”?
ISN’T THAT STRANGE!!! We can defeat armies but we can’t defeat poppy fields?
Prior to 2001, the Taliban (and this is documented fact, as it all is) had all but eradicated the poppy farming! Now, the British and Americans release a major drug warlord and start production again!! You don’t believe this do you?
Neither DID I!!
Come on think. Just use your noodle for a moment. Was it “politically acceptable” to the existing Taliban government of Afghanistan to bomb the hell out of them just because they asked for evidence of Bin Laden’s involvement in 9/11? That’s ALL they asked Bush for. “Give us evidence and we’ll hand him over”. They never got it and he bombed the hell out of them anyhow. “POLITICALLY ACCEPTABLE”?????
But it was already planned as shown earlier, above
But hey, it’s “politically unacceptable” today to destroy their poppy fields? JUST THINK. Do you REALLY think for a moment that that “political unacceptability” has anything to do with the Afghan government’s demands??? LOL
Come ON!. THINK!! Think damned HARD!!!!
Are you waking up yet???
Brown et al, I’d love to slander you just to get you in Court. Because I know that this country’s public would charge you boy and have you locked up for good. You and a few others! Even those like Clarke on the other side of the same coin!
How many outright lies upon lies upon lies can we take?
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!