In light of the ongoing exposure of wholesale fraud, corruption and unclean dealings at the highest levels of the UK “Government” of Gordon Brown(nose), the The UK Column has recently taken a very keen interest in the activities of some of the key players in this bent, corrupt and increasingly tyrannical regime.
In particular, allegations of links between senior, well connected New Labour political figures, such as Mark Malloch-Brown, with international drug legalisation lobbies, as pushed by that paragon of British values, George “how much for my mother?” Soros, required serious investigation and perhaps, if merited, even public exposure.
I was therefore much encouraged to hear that Lord Malloch-Brown himself was due to appear at a very public, and free, lecture on the wonderful merits of “EU leadership in the post crisis age”. Aside from the obvious question of quite what our (un)elected representatives are doing wasting their, and hence our, precious dwindling time on such things when they should rather be dealing with the urgent crisis that this country faces at home, I was more than happy to be presented such a gift of an opportunity to confront the mighty Malloch-Brown in person about the behaviour and activities of his friends.
But then, without warning, yesterday came the notice that “due to unforeseen circumstances” the lecture had been cancelled and we, the public, denied this golden opportunity to ask Mr Brown some difficult questions face-to-face, like gentlemen.
Far be it from us to jump to hasty conclusions, but given recent paranoiac statements from the “powers that be”, and the now all-too-obvious dragnet style email and phone monitoring that we have been informed about as if it were just another fact of life in what remains of our formerly democratic country, would be too much of a stretch to believe that our threat of exposure was a significant enough political risk to our erstwhile “Lord of the G20 universe” to deter him from poking his head above the parapet?
Since, as of writing, a call to the LSE press office has yielded no explanation for the sudden cancellation, we will simply leave our readers to study the case for the prosecution, and draw their own conclusions.
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Just one thing on the “Case for the Prosecution” report for now and I’d very much appreciate some feedback on this from UK Column because if you do not see it now as a BIG “smoking gun” then, frankly, I give up:
“The maddening irony is that Lyndon LaRouche, on July 25th, 2007, forecast exactly the meltdown of the financial system that started only 3 days later..”
Please note the following (which i have posted elsewhere on the site a few weeks ago):
ASIA TIMES MAY 22ND 2003
“An influential Jewish European banker reveals that the ruling elite in Europe is now telling their minions that the West is on the brink of total financial meltdown; so the only way to save their precious investments is to bet on the new global crisis centered around the Middle East, which replaced the crisis evolving around the Cold War.”
Full Article: http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/EE22Ak03.html
Not 3 DAYS before but 5 FULL YEARS before we hit it seriously!
Now, if you get this point out to mass media by hook or by crook and somehow get people to breathe it in and recognise what the hell this means, THEN you can hit the government hard with “WHO ARE BILDERBERG AND WHY DO WE HAVE MPs COLLABORATING WITH THEM?”
For just as Heath’s government committed sedition and treason, I can assure you, Blair, Brown, Clarke etc have done EXACTLY the same.
Mark
I agree with your general point but do not agree that the crisis was 100% orchestrated by sinister global forces, as you suggest. The ongoing collapse process was forecasted over 30 years ago by Mr LaRouche, and this is just reality catching up with itself.
Try reading the following:
http://schillerinstitute.org/lar_related/2004/jan-march/kill_me.html#doc
John, a couple of things then:
1. Interesting Mr LaRouche forecasted this 30 years ago which is just around the time of the set up of the EEC (Bilderberg supported all the way). And the first of the regional zones put in place toward the One World Government scenario.
2. Whether Mr Larouche forecasted this or not is neither here nor there with regard to what I am saying. Our governments have been telling us they had no idea until just last year that this was going to happen haven’t they?
We see as clear as day that those within OUR government and others, who attended the Bilderberg conference in 2003, were advised it was going to happen. THEY were told to re-invest in the Middle East crisis.
NONE of this was brought to our attention. We didn’t have alarm bells from our governments. They continued to inflate the bubble. On purpose!
Why are you, seemingly, wishing to steer away from what is obvious?
Th UK Column supports Mr Burgess’ investigations regarding the sedition and treason of the Heath government. To further support this activity, we have had successive MPs and leaders attend and collaborate with Bilderberg who, again, exist to undermine the nation state and, therefore, again, it is sedition and treason.
What am i missing here?
1. This is not really surprising in respect of timing. This was the year in which he forecast that the end of the Bretton Woods fixed exchange rate system would lead to a breakdown crisis and fascism. Clearly, the conspiracy to bust up Bretton Woods was organized and run by the same people, and for the same purposes, that you refer to in your discussion about “The Bilderbergers”.
2. It is relevant, because having correctly forecast what we are now living through, Mr LaRouche has also provided the remedies, and is busy fighting for them as we speak. It is not sufficient in politics to identify a problem, without proposing an efficient solution, and a means by which such a solution might be implemented, ergo, what he is saying is ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL to your, and my, survival from here on in. Make no mistake, if his solutions are not implemented, the outcomes we are discussing here are a foregone conclusion.
3. I am not trying to steer you away from anything. How you chose to use the information I have provided is entirely your choice. Personally, I think we need to fight these bastards on all fronts, and anyone who stands against our sovereignty and has actively conspired against it in that respect, should indeed be tried for treason, convicted and hanged. However, my point is that hanging a few thousand politicans will not save your life unless you have a clear sense of the economic solution that must be implemented more-or-less IMMEDIATELY, since all the revenge in the world will get you precisely NOWHERE if you cannot feed yourself.
Best,
JM
Well I can’t seem to reply to your last response John so I’ll reply here. I sense a bit of passion in your response. Good! For that is what is needed!
John, as with the sovereignty issue discussed below, if I may, it may be better for this “movement” (if that is what it is) to accept that, while there will be many INDIVIDUALS (and that what “sovereignty is – the rights of the individual) who, while wishing for the same overall goal, will have different viewpoints on individual matters.
People are coming to this site because, very probably, they have the same overall goal. It is no use then digging into very specific matters and trying to argue for or against while using terms such as “naive”, “dumb”, “anarchist” while I might say that libertarian is definitely something you are actually promoting (with your OWN views of what this means).
You do not wish to alienate people who have the same general goals as you, on the basis of disagreements on specific matters. That will do the movement no good whatsoever.
The fundamentals have to be strongly broadcast and an acceptance that specifics are always going to be debated simply DUE to the “sovereignty” (individualism) of people.
For example you may or may not drink or smoke. But many do. I am not condoning drug use in any way but you will see where I am going with this so I’ll leave it there.
The MAJOR issues need to be taken care of and the more “minor” specifics will take care of themselves to some extent.
Best
Mark
Naturally the wrong doers would direct attention away from themselves.
With Fabians spread across the main parties with there being at least 300 in Westminster their power is huge.
God only know to what extent they have infested the civil service.
This group recieves little or no attention, but the the BBC do pass them off as a just a left leaning think tank, and not what they are The Government!
http://www.uslaw.com/library/Constitutional_Law/Crimes_Fabian_Socialists.php?item=288315
Blair, is a Fabian and with his 97 Election win that allowed young Fabians to pour into the commons, there to join forces with the already in position older Fabians.
In 1929 The Lord Chief Justice Of England Lord Hewart Wrote his book The New Despotism, a warning that Fabians were subverting our laws etc.
Curious that no member of Parliament, since that date has uttered a word against these people.
Nice observation re. the drug connection Mr Morton – though not you’re not your usual acerbic self !
The Afghan imbroglio is nothing more than a deperate attempt to resurrect the “trade” that the Taliban shut down – after all the bankers have to make money some how!
I can’t say I expected the UK Column to be anti-legalisation!
Dear Mr Morton,
Could you clarify your position on drug legislation; should each man be his own sovereign on this matter or be subject to rule by statute ?
Would you swap nwo tyranny for your own brand of tyranny ?
glenn.
Glenn
I think it should be pretty clear what I think about drugs and their affect on society from my article, but if you would like me to make it crystal clear: drugs are a form of cultural menticide that are deliberatlely deployed by our controlling oligarchy to bestialize our culture and turn people away from their true spiritual purpose on this planet, which is to act as man in the image of our creator, Imago Dei.
Since you, in your naivety, are asking me if eradicating drugs and their evil effects on society, is synonymous with some form of “tyranny”, then I guess that in your eyes that would make me a tyrant.
However, in reality, it would be you who is the tyrant, both to current and future generations of people who will lose their freedom as a consequence of the drug economy and it’s takeover of civilization, that is now reaching dark age levels of insanity.
The facts are clear on this.
Quote “However, in reality, it would be you who is the tyrant, both to current and future generations of people who will lose their freedom as a consequence of the drug economy and it’s takeover of civilization, that is now reaching dark age levels of insanity.”
Well said, John, I absolutely agree with you on this. It really annoys me when people say that drugs, prostitutions, abortion, etc etc has no affect on society and that “it’s all a matter of choice”. I get so depressed when people say that, as if they are totally blind to see the damage that all this has inflicted upon society and our spiritual and moral values. It is really, really sad that people cannot see this. I am by no means perfect but at least I can see a pretty clear line which is never to be crossed, as you say John, without realising it people have become enslaved into this “dark level of humanity” and now they attempt even to justify their insanity…..
Keep up the great articles John
Bravo Mr Moron – spot on !
Dear John
OK, but will you answer my question now.
Should each man be his own sovereign, or should he be subject to statute ?
Have you considered your question at all? Seems like a silly question to me, and one that answers itself.
What is a Statute? Is it not an instrument given the force of law by the consent of the governed?
The answer to your question, therefore, is yes. Yes he should be his own sovereign, and yes he should be subject to Statute if it is his sovereign choice to give his consent.
Are you asking if each man should be a state in his own right then that is a dumb question Glenn.
Clearly, individual sovereignty does not make you immune to the law of the land, unless ofcourse you are an anarchist/libertarian, which it would appear that you are.
In this case, common law principle of “First do no harm” prevails, which means that in satisfying the individual bestial urges that a “sovereign” (as you define it) may wish to follow, the harm done to the general welfare of other members of society should not be permitted as a violation of their natural law rights.
If you are the only person on Earth you can be Sovereign, since any action you take under your own Sovereignty will not have a negative effect on another Sovereign person.
However if there are more than 1 persons on Earth you cannot possibly be Sovereign, you and the other persons have to adhere to some commonly agreed statute.
Dear John
You seem to have gone away !
You are obviously very annoyed at me so I will send you a big kiss. X
No Glenn, I am right here. Please read my response.
Dear John
Please scrub the last comment as we posted at the same time, but keep the kiss.
The harm done by drugs to society is done because of anti drug legislation, not by drugs.
It is illegality that makes drugs profitable !
Ok so we should legalize murder because it is anti-murder legislation that makes people murder each other?
You seem incapable of grasping the basic fact that some kinds of behaviour are not coherent with civilized society, and taking illegal drugs is definitely not good for your health, mental and otherwise.
Which particular drug is it that you would prefer us not to take away from you, and why do you think that I should go on tolerating the killings, the crime, the dirty money and all the rest of the things that go with it, on your behalf?
You should read “Fable of the bees – or – private vices, public virtues” by Bernard Mandeville, for an exercise in critical self analysis. You would need to stop taking drugs first ofcourse in order to maintain the necessary attention span.
To Editor
When have the people, the governed, been asked singularly about drug legislation to give their consent ?
Glenn, forget the drug issue for just one moment if you will.
Why have you come to this site?
Dear John
Your legalizing murder argument is nonsense, there is no comparison to the subject.
When drugs are illegal they become profitable. This is where the crime Lords win.
There are no killings or crime happening on my behalf, I resent that accusation.
There is nothing wrong with my attention span.
The last resort of a fool is to throw unjustified insults !
I have plenty of reading matter to hand !
I suggest that you find a book on the Chinese opium wars, study it seriously, and then come and tell me how “legalizing drugs” makes them less profitable.
To Mark,
Because I have a point of view that overlaps with several points of view I have seen expressed on this site. Not all of them of course.
Yes, we all have various points of view on specific topics. That’s the issue here. Getting bogged down in such, whilst it makes for interesting debate, does not push forward the overall agenda which, I hope, we all share.
This is exactly what the politicians do. They create division between labour and tory on what are essentially moot points. The electorate then concentrate on these points and miss the big picture which is that there is NO difference between either of the parties for neither of them steer away significantly from the fundamental elitist agenda.
To break that we need to remain focused.
Just my thoughts (and while thinking I’m very right, I will not be so arrogant to say so!!
)
Mark
I agree with your sentiments entirely, divided we are conquered. But if true divisions exist and they obviously do, it is better to face them and resolve them, not put them out of sight for now !
As you can see from these blogs I have been called bestial and been told that crime and murder are taking place because of me and now I am called the enemy ! I’m here to fight for my freedom like everybody else. I recognize two enemies: the nwo and ignorance !
W e all have different views although our aim and ultimate fight is the same. If I took umbrage to what the editor said about traffic fees, which I disagree with him on, I would not be posting . It’s a known fact that a lot of crimes are committed by people on drugs, and some horrific ones on the elderly, but it seems no one cares, least of all the elite who run the government and who are only too pleased to encourage and escalate it all, after all it is part of their agenda. So which are the most important points to this topic..
Are you trying to link me with attacks on the elderly ?
Glenn, the guy never said that! He was speaking generally. Or at least that’s how I saw it.
You’ve got a persecution complex man. Get help.
Mark
Drugs is a MAJOR issue because it intersects the entire nexus of policies that are being inflicted on us DELIBERATELY by the very people you identify as “traitors”.
Trying to atomize the discussion into a laundry list of likes and dislikes and issues we can agree to disagree on is not competent.
We must treat the issue of the drug economy systemically, the same way as we approach the constitutional issue of treason.
If we lose the war on drugs, we lose civilization. It is as simple as that. Anyone who wants to promote the legalization of drugs is an ENEMY as far as I am concerned, so I am sorry if people get offended by hard facts, but that is my position on this and it is not going to change.
I’m in entire agreement with you John. And “atomising” is exactly what I am saying should not be done but seems to be going on here. It isn’t competent as you rightly say.
But while fighting this drug issue John, you have to recognise that there is a huge market for it and, therefore, there are many who, unfortunately, take substances BUT who may well have the same overall goals. Who wouldn’t? We are being “raped”.
Drugs IS a major issue but such an issue can and will be overcome by eradicating the traitors and then re-establishing our country, its values and its laws.
I need to now read up in more detail, what you are suggesting: Mr Larouche.
Meanwhile, “we” (Bc Group/UK Column) need to focus, increase activity and build the numbers.
I’m waiting on Roger Hayes returning a call from yesterday.
Finally: I would never try to change your view. Multiple views within a society is healthy. Otherwise, what you get is what we are fighting to destroy is it not?
From another thread on this site:
The Editor Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 6:38 pm
I couldn’t agree more – and we are working to do just that.
One of the main aims of the British Constitution Group is to try to find a common platform for all the various groups. We don’t want to tell anyone what to do or what to campaign about, or how to run their groups and campaigns.
But unless we can work together in some way, we will fail to achieve anything.
So I don’t care whether people are from 9/11 truth, LaRouchePAC/Youth Movement, David Icke, whomever – we may have differing views on some things but we share a common enemy. If someone from the UK Column or the British Constitution Group isn’t talking to you directly already, then get in touch!
So, the “small” divisions and disagreements are going to get us nowhere. Let’s focus on the main issue, from which, the other issues will take care of themselves.
Removal of this government and removal from the EU. Hopefully also removal of the Privately owned, Central Bank of England’s vice-like grip on this country.
To John, Mark and editor.
There is either a huge delay on these blogs or you have taken your ball home !
To John,
I am well aware of the facts of the opium wars, the East India Company and the Boxer revolution. But more recently I can tell you that when the local heroin addicts had to find large sums of money every day to fund their habits, they stole every day and the dealers got rich. When their drugs were given to them free at the chemists the robberies stopped, and the dealers went bust. I’m sorry to see that noticing this makes me your ENEMY !
Institutionalizing crime does not make crime go away, you just rename it and call it legitimate, and criminalize the entire governing system of society in the process, which is what the Opium wars did on a global scale.
The only solution here is to ERADICATE HEROIN and execute the traffickers, not provide cheap OTC heroin to the poor victims of this crime against humanity.
Your compromise with evil does not sit well with natural law, or Christian principles.
I agree with you on this point.
I think it was the mid-sixties when doctors were told not to dispense free heroin by the then Labour Goverment.
The thinking behind this seemed to be ; it was alright when the jazz, upper crust types were users, but, as an explosion of use among the rest of the public took place (?).
The new legislation was introduced.
To John
Would you care to state if John Harris of tpuc. org is also your ENEMY. He openly admits to smoking the odd joint.
Glenn
We’re not talking about smoking the odd joint here are we. We are talking about the wholesale legalization of hard drugs, like HEROIN.
For the record, I am not calling you my enemy. I am saying that people who campaign for legalization are part of a political class that I call enemies, and that includes fascist horrors like George Soros.
Surely, you can’t be in the same camp as him?
This is the only time in my life i have ever agreed with Soros and co. The war on drugs cannot be won by means of force. Let your bitterness go and accept that some people make different life choices to the ones you make for yourself.
I am not a Soros agent, I have held these views since long before i heard Soros had an opinion on them. I believe that every person should make all of their own choices in this life, even if that includes taking drugs. The line should only be drawn by force by others when it can be shown that harm is done to a third party or society and most of the time it cannot be shown. Not all drugs are the same
I live in an inner city and have watched people, friends, fall to heroin and i have seen some of them fight their way back. Some didn’t get back so i’ve been to the funerals as well. Pushing people away in disgust is harmful. Giving people the love support and help they need does work, give it a go.
Let’s just remember who Soros is. He admits that his character was shaped by his experience during the Nazi occupation of his native land (Hungary), when, as a teenager, he assisted in implementing the Nazi program for looting, and then
exterminating, his fellow Jews. Questioned by CBS’s Steve Kroft on {60 Minutes}, on Dec. 20, 1998, about how he reacted to this experience:
”{{Kroft:}} And you watched lots of people get shipped off to the death camps.
“{{Soros:}} Right. I was 14 years old. And I would say that that’s when my character was made.”
He went on to say that he felt no guilt whatsoever; in fact, according to the introduction he wrote to his father’s book, these were the happiest days of his life: “It is a sacreligious thing to say, but these ten months [of the Nazi occupation] were the happiest times of my life…. We led an adventurous life and we had fun together.”
This is a man who has no love or respect for humanity, no loyalty to anything. If I were you I would be seriously questioning why I was agreeing with him on this or any other subject, and why he is so much behind global legalisation of drugs.
PRESS RELEASE
——————————————————————————–
McCaffrey Blasts Dope Legalizers,
Calls for U.S.-Mexico Collaboration
Feb. 14, 2009 (EIRNS)—This release was issued today by the Lyndon LaRouche Political Action Committee (LPAC).
Former Clinton Administration Drug Czar Gen. Barry McCaffrey (USA-ret.) delivered a no-holds-barred attack on the George Soros-funded dope legalization lobby, at a speaking engagement at the Heritage Foundation in Washington today. The focus of McCaffrey’s presentation was the drug cartel crisis in Mexico, which McCaffrey defined as a crisis in both Mexico and the United States. Mindful of the fact that he was speaking at one of the leading neo-con/right-wing think tanks in Washington, General McCaffrey went out of his way to present himself as a “true friend of Mexico,” warning explicitly against any violations of Mexican sovereignty, praising the role of Mexican workers—including “illegals” in the U.S. economy—and directly attacking those who stir up anti-Mexican sentiments for political gains in the United States.
While General McCaffrey did not offer any detailed proposals for how the United States should help the Mexican government to defeat the drug cartels, he presented a stark picture, from his recent fact-finding trip to Mexico, of how the drug crisis has impacted both the United States and Mexico. McCaffrey slammed the Bush Administration for failing to adequately fund and staff the Drug Enforcement Agency, the Border Patrol, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, the Coast Guard, and other agencies responsible for blocking the flow of South American cocaine, marijuana, and heroin into the United States, and American manufactured military-grade weapons into Mexico.
During the question-and-answer period, it became immediately clear that the audience had been stacked with George Soros agents, from the alphabet soup of front groups, all pushing dope legalization. At least two questioners identified themselves as with Soros-funded groups: LEAP (Law Enforcement Against Prohibition) and Marijuana Policy Project; and a third questioner who simply identified himself as a medical doctor, pushed legalization as the solution. McCaffrey was ruthless in tearing apart the legalization arguments, starting out with the flat-out statement that drugs will never be legalized in the United States, because the majority of Americans know it is a “devastatingly bad idea.” He denounced Canada and the Netherlands by name for their soft-on-legalization policies, and also noted that Venezuela has become a major trans-shipment point for South American cocaine, routed to Western Europe. At one point, obviously frustrated that the question-and-answer period had been partly hijacked by the dope legalizers, McCaffrey responded to a question about medical marijuana, by asserting that, if doctors feel there is some legitimate medical use for marijuana, drug manufacturers should develop a THC suppository—instead of simply allowing marijuana cultivation.
THE “OPEN SOCIETY” IN ACTION.
To John
There is a technical difficulty, your posts do not arrive until I send.
Christianity was founded in drug use, manna is psilocybe mushrooms. I hope I don’t have to remind you of the Jewish origins of Christianity.
Heroin dealers create heroin addicts by targeting societies most vulnerable, when there is no profit to be made from heroin the dealers go away. This means far fewer new addicts and the cycle spins out !
There was a war on drugs throughout the eighties and nineties, drug use increased.
An angry reaction to the situation is not the answer.
I am not a Christian, but I do like the Christian values of tolerance and forgiveness, it’s a shame to see your rage has lead you from that path.
Christianity founded in drug use?
Again, aside from the obvious blasphemy and lack of respect for a religion you clearly do not understand, you demonstrate once again that you really do not know what you are talking about on any level.
For example, you insist on describing the drug problems of the world as an economic phenomenon, which is precisely what I told you way back at the start of this debate was the fundamental problem with your analysis of the causality.
Drugs are a vector of IMPERIAL POLICY, not economics.
If you could be bothered to actually read the report that I attached to the end of this article, you might get somewhere. I am not going to continue this debate with you until you do so.
Yes drugs are a vector of imperial policy, i have not disputed that, but until you find the means to defeat the imperialists we are left with the day to day. Upping the war on drugs will make matters far worse than they are today.
There is a strong economic element to the drug trade, it’s very simple, heroin costs pennies to produce, if this is given to those that need it the illegal trade is destroyed.
Truth is usually blasphemous.
I think the difference in our views is in the best way to kill a monster,
i read somewhere that the true definition of madness was to try the same thing over and over hoping for a diferent result each time. The war on drugs not only failed but ripped lives and society apart, why do you want to do it again ?
That’d be “the war on drugs,” like “the war on terror.” If we take the “war on terror,” and we all know that it is a phony war, where MI6 and the CIA are diverting drug money to the terrorists we are supposed to be warring against, and where the same terrorists have a safe haven in the UK, is it too much of a leap to assume that the “war on drugs” is the same kind of phony operation?
The war on drugs was/is an operation designed to fool the public, supply money for black opp’s and put independent traders out of business thus creating a monopoly for the elite. I have never been under any illusion about that.
Until yesterday i was under the impression that the column was running on a libertarian ticket, I now believe that to be a misconception. It seems, please clarify, that you want the support of pro legalalisationers to get what you want, then when you have that you will show your true colors and become the oppressors.
Fortunately the boil burst yesterday and now your readers need not be fooled.
When one of your columnists launches an unprovoked broadside on a vast number of good people, five million minimum cannabis smokers, not to mention other drug users, drug workers and just people that are big enough to say “it’s their choice not mine”, then you can expect a backlash.
Not everybody that is appalled by John’s stance will communicate with you on this because they will expose their position to watching authorities, but feelings run deep and wide and people of whom you ask for support deserve to know where the column stands.
Is your libertarian stance genuine or deceitful, i need to know !
I’ve been reading Glenn’s postings ! He is very honest about his character.!
However, he does say that “Christianity was founded in drug use” !!
How does he arrive at that conclusion ?
I assumed that JESUS was the original founder of Christianity ? Did he use drugs ? Surely not.
If you start mixing facts up with opinions, you are on a very slippery slope.
‘It’s good to talk’, as the BT advert used to say.
We should all try this more often, and see where it gets us. Getting to speak to Broon is definitely worth a gold star -too bad the security ’services’ twigged in time, but a good shot at it all the same. I
hear of people quite often on forums who are getting to speak to ministers and that sort of thing. Some even get invited to the House of Commons. So I hope you manage it next time, I’m just pointing out that it is possible. MPs like to chat to the press, but I wonder what they would make of the UK Column. You might be surprised.
Eradication – you must be joking. If this is the UK Column’s position on drugs then goodbye.
So what, you’re going to run away from fighting along side us because we disagree on a single issue? That’d be a dumb thing to do wouldn’t it?
Do you agree with most of the other things we say? Then work with us to fight most of the things going on the this country. When it comes to the point where we have to fall out over the drugs issue, then fine, but we are not at that point.
Divide an conquer – that’s how they win. Are you going to let them win?
Guys, You’re getting bogged down!!
I was brought up a catholic. I have no belief in any religion now. I do not condone drugs (and I was also going to bring up John Harris’s admission – his choice his freedom and it is STILL drugs Mr Morton) HOWEVER, we have booze and we have tobacco too.
We are speaking about basic liberties against a tyrannical government and those who control them. Let’s PLEASE concentrate on that otherwise none of us will achieve ANYTHING since, by doing what you are doing, you are alienating and dividing.
We are ALL individuals. That wil never change. We will ALWAYS disagree on some things. THAT will never change.
What we are up against is CORRUPTION, GREED, LIES, DECEPTION, COERCION, CRIMINALITY AT THE HIGHEST LEVELS, SEDITION, TREASON. Let’s not lose sight of that. George Soros and John Harris are hardly comparable.
Let’s kick some real government ass together then work out who can’t stand who later (but at the same time, fight for each other’s rights to be who we are).
Glenn, I know only too well that text based comms are pretty hopeless generally. So all I’d say with regard to your point: “But if true divisions exist and they obviously do, it is better to face them and resolve them, not put them out of sight for now !” is that, if we spend time now, when time is REALLY VERY SHORT, trying to score points in any way (or just disagreeing) on “side issues” then guess what? GOVERNMENT are going to walk all over us.
Its really time to focus folks.
Just let me know what I can do.
Let’s get moving!
Yes you’re right, we should strive to get John Morton in power then he can walk all over us instead !
You don’t need to do that. You are already walking all over yourself, and the rest of the country, with your attitude towards drugs.
I want to see grown adults given the right to make their own life choices for themselves, what’s wrong with ?
Perhaps you feel we would all be better off letting you make those choices for us ?
It is wrong when those selfish life choices create misery and death for other people, just like free trade does for the economic slaves in remote parts of the world who have to produce things at below break even prices for consumers in this country to feed their slavish need for ever cheaper products.
Everything is connected, and your choices often reverberate beyond the bounds of your own life and national borders.
You are an idiot.
Goodbye.
I agree with glenn and TPS.
Just look at the prohibition of alcohol in America for a pertinent analogy – it caused the organised crime.
Sorry but it is a fundamental difference in position. How do you expect to eradicate drugs? Using the State? The State is the enemy!
Depends what you mean by “the State.”
The EU is an enemy and should be eradicated. The UK is a nation state with a real constitution, and it is not the enemy.
Rather the people in government here, along with the bottom feeders in the City of London that express policy through their Imperialist tendencies – these are the enemy. We’ve got to remove the fungus that’s growing on our institutions.
If you are working towards complete removal of all nation states in favour of some kind of anarchy, then yes, we have a fundamental difference in position, and I would see that as being as dangerous as Imperialism.
As for your question, how do I eradicate the drugs trade – first I eradicate production, along with distribution, and the banking system that “launders” the money. Yes, I use the state for that.
The end user is not the target, and personally speaking, what you choose to grow in your own garden is your own business, so long as you are not distributing it or causing harm to others. If you’d prefer to be escaping from life instead of living it, that’s up to you.
Excellent point. Hopefully now we can reach a consensus.
Let’s get to work on the core problem we have!!!
And I STILL await response from you guys. I keep calling and never get the return call. I’m telling everyone I speak to to get in contact with UK Column/BC Group yet when I do, it then goes nowhere.
You’ll GET nowhere at this rate!
Mark,
I’ve sent you my number.
Mike.
” If you’d prefer to be escaping from life instead of living it, that’s up to you.”
classic example of
‘I know how life should be lived, you don’t’
ass-u-me
After reading this thread I felt a ripple of ‘do I want to be involved with yet another outfit that knows best how I and many others choose to live’
Do you realise how fast word travels across the many forums dedicated to the growing community? You may well have put the boot into a huge chunk of support.
Alcohol is a DRUG, so that’s the end of chilling out with a bottle of red, or a cold one.
STOP this squabbling! WE, us, we have an enemy already. So let’s lose any arrogance and plod on with the main aim!
All the Best
Rob Wearn
“classic example of ‘I know how life should be lived, you don’t’”
Not my intention, but I do reserve the right to have a view.
The point I was trying to make, and have been trying to make consistently is this:
We might disagree on this specific issue, but that does not mean we can’t work together. Some here seem to want to find any excuse to cause division, and that needs to be answered.
We do not write and publish what we do in some sad effort to win a popularity contest. We do so because we believe it to be the truth. If anyone reading it feels they can’t support our work, that’s fine.
At the end of the day, the position of the UK Column is clear in the newspaper and this website. If anyone reads that and feels they can’t support us in our aims, even where in the main our aims are the same as theirs, then that would, in my view, be a mistake.
Your position is not clear; you have called yourself libertarian then gone on to promote distinctly non libertarian, borderline fascist points of view. You have insulted your bloggers as a matter of routine and skirted or ignored the pointed questions.
If you think i am doing this to deliberately cause divisions you are wrong. The divisions came with Morton’s full on attack of pro legalisers. The divisions are of your own making.
You have paraded yourselves as libertarian to gain support which has turned out a blatant lie. I now call you a dishonest man Mr Gerrish.
Brian Gerrish is about the most honest man I know so i would recommend that you retract your last statement Glenn.
I do not know what his view on this subject is so I am not going to speak for him. The views expressed in this article are my own and not some kind of editorial diktat that has come down from above like you would expect from the mainstream press.
This website is not a dictatorship, and neither is the newspaper. It is a collaboration of a large number of people with diverse views on a range of subjects, with a common theme of love for our country, our freedoms, our Christian heritage, and most importantly of all, our sovereignty.
If you want to cast aspertions on our work, our character, and our intentions because we have a serious disagreement over drugs policy, that is your choice, but it does not speak well of you Glenn.
Sadly, this is all too typical of this movement.
I am not Brian Gerrish. I am Mike Robinson, the editor of this website. I have never paraded myself as libertarian, and Brian has absolutely never done so either.
I find it interesting that you accuse us of promoting fascism, when in fact we work as hard as we can to expose the fascist/imperialist agenda of the “ruling elites.” Next, no doubt, you’ll be accusing us of anti-semitism.
The Editor
My apologies for the mistaken identity, but the accusation still stands for both of you.
You parade as libertarians but are not. That is dishonest !
Read again the wording of the attacks
against pro legalisers. They are bordering psychotic.
Fascism is the binding together of people under totalitarian laws and these are what are promoted on your web site.
A number of people are getting annoyed with this row and for their benefit I’m going to leave this subject now. My understanding of your position has increased dramatically in the past two days but i have learned to see all knowledge as beneficial.
To the bloggers i have offended with all this i appologise, but i felt it important to pursue for clarity.
“You parade as libertarians but are not. That is dishonest !”
My final word on this:
I am not, have never been, and have never claimed to be, a libertarian. Neither has Brian. I have expressed my views here, and previously on my own website, honestly – too honestly for some in the past – and will continue to do so.
Rob, I’m seeing both sides here. You’re both squabbling over something that, seeing John’s post saying “what you do is entirely up to you”, is a nonsense and not helping. I think you stating “‘I know how life should be lived, you don’t’” definitely put words in John’s mouth. While he MAY or MAY NOT take that view, he has stated “its up to you”.
We don’t have the same ideas 100%. We never will have – ANY of us – I’m positive John and I would not see eye to eye on MANY things (such as religion for example) but I accept entirely his right to his religion and views as I would wish him to accept mine.
Meanwhile, we have a tyrannical government who are destroying ANY differences we are allowed to have through freedom and liberty.
The Fabian society is nasty…very nasty. And Common Purpose….
Additional to that the EU legislation by the bucketload and that ofour own government is gripping us tighter and tighter.
So let’s accept the differences “Vive la difference”. THAT is freedom and liberty my man!
well, John has been very attacking and insulting, in my view, which can only serve to alienate folks. If you noticed I did acknowledge we have a …..ahhh, forget it, this is a waste of time & energy.
On to other things. I’ve emailed Brian with some info on Comm Purpose & the offer of whatever I can do to help, but have had no reply, I have a few other bits which I’d like to pass on but without a reply I have no idea if he’s receiving. Any suggestions?
All the Best
Rob
Please keep it coming, its much appreciated. Brian is receiving. He’s been out of town for a few days on personal business, and we are in the final stages of getting the next edition of the paper out, so apologies on his behalf if he hasn’t got back to you yet. I’m sure he will be as soon as he can.
I have been called a fascist, an idiot, a tyrant and several other epithets on this thread, and you call ME insulting?
I may have been very firm on this issue, and if that has come across in the wrong way on some responses then I apologize. However, this is because I feel very passionately that the people who are behind the global drugs trade are the enemies of humanity, the very same people who we are fighting on every level in our day to day lives, and I want to see them punished for their crimes.
If some people choose to interpret this to mean that I wish to punish drug users for their habits, they have not understood what I am saying here.
I have compassion and tolerance for the victims of the crime of national menticide that has done so much damage to this country, and wish to see them rehabilitated and to have a future in a world free of such things, but in order to get there we are going to have to adopt very tough measures against the TRAFFICKERS, i.e. CRIMINALS.
That is what I am saying.
Rob, my input on this for what its worth. I’ve spoken with Roger Hayes (BC Group) and Mike Robinson (Editor). These guys simply need a lot more constructive help in trying to build numbers who understand what’s going down right now and getting the message out. I’ve been finding the response, when I’ve expected it, not coming as quick as I’d like but having spoken to them, find they are inundated. So, my intention is to try and help out in any way possible.
I KNOW I’m not going to see eye to eye with these guys on many things but I’m not going down that road simply because the MAJOR issues are FAR more important and critical.
Sorry Glenn, but from what I see and read from you (and I appreciate I COULD be wrong) you’re just not willing to let go a point. A single point. I’ve never seen a single post from these guys suggesting they would interfere with your liberty. For them to say they would fight drug trafficking and try to stamp it out, if you don’t see that as beneficial then so be it. They have said “what you do with your life is your own business” and I’d agree but, at the same time, I don’t want to see people dying because they have got hooked on heroin, cocaine, exstacy etc.
But you are missing the point. Totally. And your insistence to try and denounce the entire body of work these guys are trying to do because they disagree with you on one single point, speaks volumes.
That is not meant to detract from your beliefs. Most of the population, as you know, would denounce you as a “druggie” and not worth even speaking to. I think these guys have shown they are a little more “open minded” than that while they simply don’t agree with you.
What if they don’t support your football team either????
Tip: never invent statistics to reinforce a point as in eighty percent of cases it could make you look a twat. (mori)
thanks Ed. Will do
Rob
If you are not Libertarians what are you?! I don’t see how what other position is tenable when you believe in all powerful elite intent on tryannical world government.
Speaking for myself, I am a nationalist, because the only answer to world tyranny is a world system of sovereign nation states collaborating towards the common aims of humanity.
The state is not always an enemy if democracy is functioning, corporate cartels are broken up, and constitutional government restored.
In fact, all modern progress is a result of the sovereign nation state and its explicit defense of the general welfare of people, as against the Imperial idea of supranational economic rule.
Ah yes, the supranational economic rule which Mr Rockefeller states HE believes everyone MUST see as preferable to nation state sovereignty.
I tend to believe there is a One World that is capable of being achieved. But NOT the existing interpretation of such!!
The One World I’m thinking of is simply not possible in the near or medium term. So for now, it has to be as you say, nations collaborating.
Of course, this is what Obama and Brown etc are advocating and the sleeping masses are listening to wonderful rhetoric because they see the superficial smiles saying “we’re going to sort out the mess we put you in” and the sleeping masses just can’t grasp any alternative. It’s apathy, ignorance coupled with greed for most.
As for “too many people” in the world! what a joke! If you gave (just an example) each and every individual on the planet (including children) – 6.5BILLION people – 1/4 of an acre of land, it would not even fill Australia!
Just THINK about that for a moment. Then think “Why do they possibly want depopulation”?
“If you are not Libertarians what are you?!”
What’s with the urge to categorise everyone?
Read what I have written here and elsewhere and decide whether or not you agree with me, but don’t categorise me, just so that you can in an instant decide whether or not to pay any attention to me in the future. That’s just lazy! And generally divisive.
I am a man who chooses to express my desire to see a just and humane world, where governments – and we do need them – work for the welfare of all the nation’s residents. Like JM, I believe that a system of sovereign nation states is the best way to be, and I don’t care whether that is a constitutional republic or a constitutional monarchy, so long as the constitution is there and the people of the nation are willing to stand up and protect their constitutional rights.
The key point in all my argument, past and present, is that the 1% of the population that holds the rest to ransom is not the enemy. Or, at least, they are only the enemy in a very shallow sense. The real enemy is ourselves, our unwillingness to work together, and the unwillingness of the majority to work at all towards some kind of fair and decent world.
If the majority would show even a little consideration for others, instead of their own selfish entertainments, then maybe that 1% wouldn’t be able to operate their organised criminal cartels, and we wouldn’t be paying three generations worth of national debt back to a wunch of bankers.
Mike, Have you ever worked for and been paid a salary by a company who, at the CEO and Director level, you KNOW are a bunch of wankers?
But then you don’t wish to lose your salary because that is what puts food on the table and you have a family.
Its a pyramid and that same pyramid applies to society.
Sorry. Obvious point I know!
I have no criticism for people in the situation you describe. Criticism is the wrong word for the silent majority who would rather spend their evenings binge drinking or sitting at home watching Big Brother as well. But these are the people we need to convince to stand up and call their criminal politicians, bankers and others to account.
To Mark
Your question is directed to Mike, but if i may.
Twenty three years ago when i was twenty one, i found employment with an ‘aircraft’ manufacturing company on the Swiss/German border. I was payed very well and provided near luxurious accommodation. It was a dream job.
Within a few weeks of having started work i noticed i was never allowed to see the finished product, i could only ever see components and they did not look very much like aircraft parts. As my understanding of the German language improved, and my understanding of how the components came together increased, i realized i was not making parts for the kind of aircraft i thought i was making. I was making parts for short range guided missiles intended for rapid deployment against the Eastern block.
This did not fit my politics as i have never believed the Russian people intended me or us any harm, so why should i make bombs or their delivery systems to kill them ?
I always did and still do believe that if every man and woman could find the courage of their convictions and say no, not at any price, to the warmongers and criminal bosses, the bastards then have nothing. I long ago stopped believing that this would ever happen, because of greed. I left the best job i have ever had and in doing so have cost myself literally hundreds of thousands of pounds over the years. But i have never been hungry and i sleep bloody well !
How this relates to today’s problems is like this: i believe an effort should be made to identify every nwo and criminal company, as each in turn are exposed the workers should be encouraged to leave and the goods or services of that company should be boycotted. The workers and trade could then go to honest companies even if one has to be set up specially, i believe the organization of this should be the role of the trade unions today !
Glenn,
Incredible! Such thoughts have been in my mind recently also. I’ll tell you why:
When i first started to work in 1984 after uni, I woked for Ferranti Defence systems for 4 years. Radar. I got very bored very quickly and moved into Sales & Marketing but still within a defence market primarily which then moved more into communications in the early 90s with the advent of GSM. But it was primarily a very large Defence company by the name of Racal Electronics. I spent until 1996 there. Enjoyed every minute of it.
So to cut to today. I’ve recently returned from years in the telecomms sector with various companies and been based in Asia.
I get back to UK last year and BOOM! we hit this issue.
I’m currently out of work while, just a few weeks ago, for the first time in my life, I get a call for a Business Development role in the Surrey area FOR A GUN AND AMMUNITION MANUFACTURER WHO ARE ANTICIPATING A LARGE UPSWING IN BUSINESS THIS COMING YEAR through business with the Police and MOD.
With the research I have been doing surrounding ALL of what we are seeing around us, this made the hair on the back of my neck stand up.
The STUPID recruitment woman just didn’t get it when I told her I wasn’t interested and that they could take their job and stuff it quite frankly.
I wanted to scream at her for even taking on the role in trying to find people for the job. But WHAT is the use! People are goddamned idiots and just think of the next bonus!
It makes me want to puke to be honest. People’s apathy and selfish, thoughtless “who cares, I need to make my next buck” attitude.
So man, I’m behind you 100% there.
Have you seen what the Corporations in America have been doing with their people (truck drivers) in Iraq? Sending them right into the line of fire – just for PROFITS!
People are SICK. There is a cancer due to the monetary system and society which the elites have capitalised on (because people NEED money to live while we’re “educated” to compete). We’re programmed to want more than we actually need and to compete in that rat race we have called it for decades.
It’s all down to the elites wishes to control, dictate, divide, conquer and destroy and it is actually entirely unnecessary for there is no such thing as limited resources while they would wish us to believe there are because their wealth has been built on that one single principle.
Goddamnit I could go on and on!
go on and on, this is music !
Hey Mark, one of my hobbies is theoretical physics ( of a kind). I’ve been trying to use my limited knowledge to find ways to empower the people in a number of ways. I wonder if you would have a look at this piece for me.
The Ark of the Covenant and the missing energy system.
The Story of the lost Ark of the Covenant is generally well enough known for me to not bother with too many long winded Biblical or historical details. This isn’t a historical or religious test piece. I’ll just tell it as it is my own way !
Having puzzled over the function of the Ark for a number of years I have discovered just how it makes the electricity that it uses for a self defense system. This defense system is in the form of ‘bolts of lightning’ firing from the Ark that kills anyone touching it or coming too close. The way it makes this electricity is the most interesting part of the story as it opens the door on a ‘new’ way to make electricity for our own use, without using fuel or producing emissions.
The accepted ways of producing electricity greenly involve: waves, tide, rain, solar, wind, geothermal, biomass and all the usual suspects that appear on the ‘news’. But there is another, greater energy at work all around us that has been sadly overlooked. I hope this piece can somehow help remedy that !
The only place this story can begin is at the centre of the Earth; that’s because the Earth’s inner core is the source of the power that resides in the Ark. The Earth’s inner core is a ball of incredibly hot material; probably Iron, that has retained it’s heat since the Earth was formed, although some say there is an ongoing nuclear reaction involved to have maintained it’s colossal heat for all that time. In either case we have this inner core about seven kilometers in diameter that pumps out massive quantities of heat to the next layer called the outer core.
The outer core is much larger than the inner and is made almost completely of Iron and Nickel. The heat from the inner core melts both Iron and Nickel to melting point. These metals then swirl around and between them generate a massive quantity of electromagnetic energy. This energy knows no physical barriers; it makes its way up through the third of the Earths layers called the mantle layer which can also be called the putty layer, then up into and through the Earth’s crust. The energy permeates all things in and on the Earth and forms a halo around us called the magnetosphere. This Halo protects the Earth from the worst of the radiation emitted by the Sun, without it we would fry in moments !
Back down on and in the Earths crust we have a lot of variety in material composition and structure: such as different rock types and gaps and cracks and water courses above and below ground level. The Electromagnetic energy has to find its way through or round these obstacles. Like other moving things the energy moves most readily through the path of least resistance and so gaps and cracks fill with energy while more resistant materials are left with lower levels of energy.
The Energy flows out of the South pole, curves around the Earth and re-enters at the North pole. The view from space is of a pair of giant wings protecting the Earth. The worlds elite, the illuminati, call these the wings of Jehovah, the energy I have been describing also contains intelligence and emotion, this energy is Jehovah, God of Moses and many others. Other cultures have other names and descriptions, native American Indians call it the Great Earth Spirit or just Great Spirit, same thing, just a different name !
Staying with the flowing movement of the energy through the Earths crust, through all those channels and gaps we find there are invisible rivers of electromagnetic energy flowing unseen by man, these are ley lines. When a ley line is flowing along nicely it can encounter an obstacle such as an underground stream or river, or sometimes another ley line gets in the way. When this happens a pattern of turbulence forms; much like turbulence in water that can be seen as a whirlpool. These whirlpools of energy go back into the Earth. Dotted here and there all over the planet there are these whirlpools of electromagnetic energy called vortexes. (some prefer vortices as plural of vortex, but I don’t )
The existence and nature of vortexes have been a closely guarded secret of the worlds religious, royal and noble elites throughout our time on Earth. The various interactions that can take place between man and God on these vortexes, and there are many, can bring the Knowledge and power of God into this realm for man to use. God’s knowledge is the Knowledge of all things good and evil, to know all things it has to be that ! Sadly the elite that know and guard this great secret have decided that only they should benefit from interaction with God and by ‘enlightenment’ (illumination) have access to that knowledge good and evil, and free use of it for their own and only their own purposes.
One of those many interactions manifests itself through the Ark of the Covenant. The Ark itself is a box made of Acacia wood and is plated inside and out with gold. The two gold plates are not connected, which makes them a basic but very functional capacitor. A capacitor is a device that is connected in line with a flow of electricity and then disconnected from the current. The capacitor then holds the electricity that was flowing through it, and does not discharge this electricity until someone or something touches the capacitor, or comes close enough for a spark to jump to get to earth as electricity likes to do. This is how the Ark fires ‘lightning’. The power of the spark is relative to the current that was flowing at the time of disconnection from supply.
The Ark of the covenant as a capacitor needs an electrical supply and the great mystery has always been about where it gets it, this is where the vortexes come into play. Electricity is electrons moving through a conductor; electrons can be moved through a conductor by electromagnetic energy that is moving, the electrons are pushed along by the electromagnetic energy of the vortex.
To make electricity on a vortex, which is moving, revolving, electromagnetic energy, all we need to do is place a conductor in the energy, electrons flow in the conductor, making electricity. In the case of the Ark, the conductor is the circular Golden wings of Cherubim that surround the Ark in Solomon’s Temple. The wingtips of the Cherubim touch to complete a circuit and are placed on the vortex. Gold is an excellent conductor so placing the circle or circuit of Gold wings on a vortex establishes a flow of electrons, electricity, through the Cherubim and then into the Ark. The electromagnetic energy is turned into electricity and then stored in the capacitor, this is how the spirit of the Lord resides in the Ark !
“The Wings of Cherubim” is a name the elite often use to call a vortex without calling it a vortex. The Tree of life of Genesis is to the East of Eden and protected by the Wings of Cherubim, it means the Tree of Life is in a vortex !
This isn’t the solution of a mystery but the discovery of a secret. I am not the first person to know these things, not by a long way. There were of course the original builders and users of the Ark, and there have been many Arks throughout history in the near and far Easts, but the Ark knowledge is kept by an elite still today. That elite is The Vatican, The Royals, some Aristocracy, Church leaders of many faiths, senior Freemasons and Bankers ( same thing ) and generally the leaders of the Zionist New World Order movement. But apart from casual interest, why should it matter ?
Let’s look again at what the Ark and the wings of Cherubim are; religious stuff aside, it is an electricity generator that doesn’t need fuel, nor does it produce emissions ! If I’m not mistaken we are lead to believe by the Club Of Rome and their many agents that the Earth is on the brink of disaster due to global warming, which we’re told is caused by the burning of fossil fuels to provide power for industry, homes and transport. We have carbon footprints and we are dirty, so we must pay through the nose for all energy and fuels to slow our rate of consumption, and we are to be afraid that fuel may one day all run out, which of course is the unspoken pretext for many wars. All this while the very people controlling all energies and managing all wars are the same people that are guarding the secret of God’s own electricity supply. They must be wetting themselves as we slave to buy their energy products!
There are a great many vortexes around the world; Most churches and Holy places of worship are built on them as are pyramids, castles, stately homes and a fair variety of monuments and markers of many kinds, including the White house, the Vatican, the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem and Balmoral Castle in Scotland.
The strength and size of vortexes and the consistency of them can vary greatly, but all vortexes should be able to produce electricity relative to the quality of the vortex ! ‘Lots’ of fast moving electromagnetic energy moves ‘lots’ of electrons in a conductor, small moves small !
I very much doubt that using all existing vortexes as electricity generators would have much impact on the colossal global need for energy; but the function of the Ark on a vortex not only reveals the Ark as an electricity generator but points the way down a path that mankind has never publicly trodden. By that I mean that as the Ark uses naturally occurring electromagnetic energy to make electricity one way, it may be possible to use the same energy to produce electricity on ordinary non vortex locations, perhaps in the form of stand alone machine in your back garden one day.
If you take an ordinary magnetic compass, let it rest pointing North then pull the pointer to South, then let go, you will see the pointer swing back to point North again. The compass needle is a magnet; it just swung round half a rotation, to make any meaningful quantity of electricity in a generator the needle would have to make full rotations and be able to repeat that rotation over and over. If the compass needle were long, I like to visualize around two metres, and not an ordinary magnet but an electromagnet, it is then possible to reverse the polarity of the magnet as it completed its first half rotation. Momentum would cause the magnet to swing past North and the polarity reversal at that point would cause the end now pointing South to need to swing North again. If polarity were reversed every half turn we would have continual rotation of the magnet.
Magnetic polarity is reversed simply by reversing the polarity of a D.C. supply current that supplies the electricity that energises the electromagnetic compass needle. This is how to achieve continual rotation of an electromagnet, the trick then is to use it as a generator or the drive for a generator that can return more electricity than man gives it to run. If it could produce a surplus the worlds ‘energy crisis’ can be over by placing a stand alone machine in a garden, or pretty much anywhere and plugging your house, factory, electric car etc into it.
At this point I would expect people to say you can’t get more out than you put in; of course this is true, but man only has to supply enough electricity to the ‘compass needle’ to make it magnetic. If any of the energy used to make the magnet swing comes from the Earth energy, which has input from the heat supplied from the inner core, we could possibly get more back than we put in, the Earth Spirit provides the rest !
I cannot find a single research paper on the subject so I suppose the proof or disproof of the pudding would come from making one to find out. Feel free if you have the inclination and the means, I have no patent on any of these things, and as ancient knowledge this must be considered common knowledge and so is free for use by all mankind !
The equator also produces food for thought with a little trick it does. When an ordinary magnetic compass is placed on the equator it gets confused and doesn’t know which way to point. Because of this the needle, which is a magnet, spins quite quickly. All that would be necessary to turn the compass magnet into a generator is to place a coil of conductive wire around it. This is a generator that doesn’t need fuel nor does it produce emissions ! This could also be much bigger than a compass to make useable quantities of electricity.
The point I’m trying to make is there is an enormous quantity of energy available to us as naturally occurring electromagnetic energy, it is everywhere, all we have to do is work out the best ways of using it ! I can’t help wondering where generating technology would be today if the function of the Ark and surrounding Cherubim on a vortex had been public knowledge for the last couple of hundred years. What possibilities have been overlooked and what opportunities missed ? Perhaps it’s possible to find a ley line and dig a trench right across its path, then fill the trench with water. Could we make a vortex form for use as a generator anywhere we liked along a ley line ?
I don’t know what the outcome of widespread experimentation by interested parties around the world would be, or what new ideas would throw up, but we are not even talking about this and we should as fuel freedom is a major part in the total freedom that a proportion of mankind has always striven to achieve!
I hope a positive outcome is possible. The effect on wealth distribution would be beneficial to the worlds least well off and strip money and power from those that have, hold and abuse it. It’s no wonder they didn’t want us to know about the Ark, I believe that in time and with input from those with the necessary skills, and the free and open sharing of state of the art breakthroughs, revelation of the secrets of the Ark of the Covenant can shaft the elites entire fuel supply monopoly and fake global warming agenda ! If anybody out there still prays then please pray for this, it will kill oil, gas, nuclear and the wealth and power they provide for our disgusting masters. It will end global warming or more accurately the fraud that it is. But if it were real you could thank the worlds elite for causing it by sitting on helpful technology.
I believe also that a new Ark has been built for placement on the vortex on/in Temple Mount. The Freemasons don’t control the surface vortex access point yet, but access to that same vortex is available inside the hill. Beneath the Dome is a tunnel system that was used by the Knights Templar during their stay in the crusades. The tunnel system is controlled today by the Quatour Corronati ( four crowns) Freemasonic research lodge, that is where I believe the new Ark is today and for a number of reasons :
1, It’s the Arks last known resting place and it was there because the predecessors of today’s elite wanted it there. For them this vortex is the Ark’s proper place although placement on the surface in a rebuilt Solomon’s Temple is the ultimate goal !
2, Freemason Dr. Lambert Dolphin, a Professor of Physics from Stanford university was brought in to help the interested parties with some aspect of building a new Temple of Solomon. Those interested parties are the master stonemasons of the ages, this indicates that some part of the Temple needs a highly skilled Freemason physicist to make it work.
3, It’s a tradition that the ceremonial ram’s horn called the Shofar is blown in procession ahead of the Ark. During the November 2000 intefada on Temple Mount, which was organized by members of Quatour Corronati and a Zionist group called the Temple Mount Faithful, the shofar was produced and blown, but no Ark was shown. The intefada took place as part of the festivities celebrating the commissioning of the new Ark in the tunnels within the Rock. Our Government knew this at the time.
4, The trouble had erupted on that hill because the Freemasons were “anointing a corner stone” of the Temple. The Ark isn’t a stone but is a vital part of the fully functioning Temple, therefore it is considered a corner stone! No real stone was laid that day.
5, Leen Ritmeyer is the Freemason credited with finding the exact location on which the Ark should stand when re-installed on the top of the rock. He has said “ he wouldn’t be surprised if the Ark isn’t somewhere in the tunnels below the dome”.
As he has open access to all of those tunnels I wouldn’t be surprised if He’s right !
It takes a lot of Gold to build an Ark and cherubim; it’s a good job for the Freemasons they had their Ark built before this long planned financial collapse, they would have had to pay far more for the gold these days. I can’t help wondering where all that gold could have come from; perhaps it was just some they had laying around, or perhaps they found some going cheap somewhere and bought it in especially ? Can You think of anyone with Zion’s best interests at heart selling a lot of gold cheap recently ? Perhaps Mr Brown would know, he seems well connected in those lofty financial circles !
Phew! Glenn. That’s so far out mate! But I have looked into stuff like this as I find it quite fascinating. The thing is, that the underlying theory of all this is actually doable I believe. And yes, I’d tend to agree that its that simple: If these elites would simply “come clean” (not much chance I grant you) then there is SO MUCH capability outside the usual resources we are led into being “slaves” for, that we could tap. It’s never-ending. The investment, once made, would require simply upkeep.
Re Nuclear by the way: The immense “free” and plentiful energy in that scenario has been “ignored” because of the fear of nuclear. Personally I don’t believe there is much to fear if it weren’t for the fear of people misusing it or purposefully causing problems.
If you took the energy which is meant to be left in oil reserves in comparison to deuterium tappable from the oceans for instance and measured it by “length”; oil would cover about an inch of length and the energy available from the oceans (deuterium) would cover the distance between NYC and LA.
As for 6.5 billion people being too many on the planet? Give each and every man woman and child 1/4 of an acre land and it would not even cover the entirety of the landmass of Australia. The rest of the globe then being entirely unpopulated. Figure that one out Mr Rockefeller!! You BULLSHITTER! (excuse my anger!)
The extent of the fraud is staggering,
I read somewhere that the Rothschild’s own the bulk of the worlds Isotopes, it will be interesting to see how they will claim to own the seas in order to own the deuterium.
The sea bed is the property of the crown estate, that’s how they stole the oil and gas, may as well lay claim to the water as well.
There is another angle to depleted uranium and that’s its supposed storage through its monstrous half life, and of course the costs of that which are passed on to us. Eastern European heavy water physicist Yull Brown, who gave his name to Brown’s gas, said he’d discovered a way to irradiate spent nuclear waste in minutes. He said he had a device that could irradiate virtually any quantity of spent uranium in minutes for less than one hundred thousand dollars. Of course this ends the paydays for those who store our waste. Yull Brown died prematurely of a heart attack before he could get his idea out there.
Of course nuclear waste isn’t really stored, it’s turned into weapons and spread out across targeted areas during wars as part of the ongoing genocide we are witnessing.
Hi, just called by to say I hope you’re all having a good Saturday. You are appreciated! Also, thinking over yesterday’s exchanges here, I think it’s like we have a bus, we may disagree with the colour of the paintwork and yes there’s a few patches of rust, but the engine’s sound, there’s plenty of room for more passengers and it beats walking.
All the Best
Rob Wearn
do we have a cartoonist anywhere?
I would love to see this:
Bankers begin ‘quantitive easing’
I have the image in my mind of them sitting on a row of toilets, straining, and dumping on the ordinary folks below.
apologies if this seems out of place, but it amused me.
Rob
Nice vivid imagination Rob! LOL
I can see it in my mind’s eye! Not a pretty sight but then neither is the reality!
Mexican President Warns: “Drugs Are the Slavery of the 21st Century”
March 6, 2009 (LPAC)–In interviews published by Le Monde March 5, and Agence France Press (AFP) on March 4, in anticipation of President Nicolas Sarkozy’s arrival on March 9, Mexican President Felipe Calderon sharply rejected any idea of drug legalization or negotiating with the drug cartels, as advocated by agents of the Nazi-trained George Soros. Drugs, he said “are the slavery of the 21st Century,” and Mexico will never surrender to the cartels.
He also warned the United States that it must deal with the huge drug consumption problem inside its own borders, facilitated by “corrupt American officials” whose complicity with the drug cartels also help fuel the drug trade.
“I want to know how many American officials have been prosecuted for this,” he said, noting that his own government’s “Operation Cleanup” had succeeded in identifying and arresting high-level government and federal police officials who were collaborating with the cartels.
Le Monde specifically asked Calderon about the proposal to decriminalize drugs advocated by former Mexican President Ernesto Zedillo of the Revolutionary Institutional Party (PRI), one of three co-chairs on the George Soros-financed Latin American Commission on Drugs and Democracy (LACDD.) In a report issued Feb. 11, the LACDD proposed marijuana decriminalization as the antidote to the “failed” U.S.-backed war on drugs.
The Mexican President was adamant in his response: “A number of people believe that this would reduce profits from illegal drugs. As for me, I believe that the idea of legalization means resigning ourselves to losing several generations of Mexicans, because drug [trafficking] is the slavery of the 21st Century.” (emphasis added)
Calderon was equally adamant in responding to Le Monde’s question about the argument used by some, that negotiating with the cartels is a way of reducing violence. “This is an incredibly naive idea, and I would even say, a stupid one,” he said. “That how people thought in the old political culture. But to make a deal with [organized] crime solves nothing.” On the contrary, he said, such deals made in the past allowed the drug trade to “grow like a cancer, like a huge infection, because it benefitted from the complicity of a lot of leaders. As a result, you’re giving the criminals the key to the house!”
On the eve of the March 6 arrival in Mexico of Admiral Mike Mullen, head of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff, the Mexican President pulled no punches in identifying how the trafficking of illegal weapons from the U.S. to Mexico, as well as the U.S.’s giant drug consumption, exacerbated Mexico’s difficulties.
“The biggest empowerment of organized crime are the weapons that arrive from the United States,” he said. “Over two years, we have confiscated 33,000 [weapons], including 18,000 large-caliber ones, some rocket-launchers, thousands of grenades, as well as armor-piercing ones. And, the great majority of them were bought in the United States,” including arms and uniforms belonging to the U.S. Army. Calderon also pointedly stated that the Bush Administration’s 2004 lifting of restrictions that had been imposed on the purchase of very dangerous weapons, was not at all helpful to Mexico.
Face it, Calderon said. “If the United States weren’t the world’s biggest drug market, we wouldn’t have this problem. This is not exclusively a Mexican problem,” he told AFP. “It is a common problem between Mexico and the United States…I have spoken to [President Barack] Obama about this subject… He gave me his word, and I trust him, because he is a sincere man…We now have a clearer, more decisive response [from the current administration], one which matches the magnitude of the problem we face.”
Yet John. Figure this one out….
While the Mexican authorities are trying to attack the drug barrons in Mexico by sending the army/police to certain drug areas to deal with, not the users but the barrons; The PEOPLE are rioting against the army/police!!!!!
Now, this is all going on close to the USA border and Texas and California (particularly Texas) are worried and, with no move from Obama to protect the border from what COULD be hundreds of thousands of Illegal mexicans rushing into the southern states, the Texan state are monitoring it themselves and taking precautions “unilaterally”.
I’m convinced that the Mexicans are being paid to riot against the Mexican army/police and that this is ANOTHER false flag by factions INSIDE America to cause mayhem in Mexico.
These people want their North American Union and by hook or by crook they are going to get it.
John. How do we pump up the pressure on this whole British Constitutional Group thing!
We need to start making noise and I don’t understand why we don’t apply pressure NOW to media and direct to government through petitions and get our voice heard while we continue to grow numbers?
This is a 100% Soros operation.
http://larouchepac.com/node/9439
If Obama is part of the NAU “conspiracy”, then why is he engaging in an all out war on the very anti-nationalist forces who are creating this crisis on the US-Mexico border?
I think Alex Jones and his libertarian followers have got it completely wrong on this. For example, the “attack on the 2nd amendment” that AG Holder is pushing is targetting the very cartels that are running military grade weapons across the border. This is not targetted at individual Americans, but at the criminal cartels with whom both nations are now at war.
John,
See this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKSHQEhaMRY
Seemingly Obama/Fed Govt are doing nothing to protect the border. Texas itself is taking action.
Good morning, John
I believe that there has been (and is currently) a lack of cooperation from stateside. The only thing I’d disagree with Caulderon about is the belief that Obama is a sincere man.
I believe the American people have the same problems we have at the moment, regarding government., No matter which party get in nothing changes, different face same agenda. Our gov. seems to have a revolving door / recycling facility in that when any of them get exposed and action is taken (due to embarrassment caused, not due to criminality) they disappear from view for a while then up they pop to be appointed yet again in some high power role. That’s if there’s any penalty at all!
We have the unelected making these decisions, we also have nothing more than school prefects in uniform getting stroppy in the streets and beating up folks who’re later charged for assaulting the police (prefects). There’s a video I put up a link to on tpuc showing this.
I’m getting carried away here. Anyway, as Brian has stated on his video the whole lot needs to go, to be removed. Then we need to get some good, decent and honest people to head things up. All I’ve ever wanted was a tiny plot the grow stuff (vegetables!!) to be left in peace, I don’t want money or power, I never have.
Now, after that I’m off for a strong cup of tea.
I’m pleased to be involved (at a tiny level) with people like yourself and Brian, Mike, Mark, Roger and everyone else at the UKColumn, also the BCG & TPUC and as I stated in an earlier post I appreciate what you do. I need to find my own voice locally too. I’ve registered my name with BCG as first point of contact for the Portsmouth area and have other plans.
Warm regards to all.
I hope you have a peaceful day
Rob Wearn
Rob, you’re in the Portsmouth area? I’m not SO far from you. Perhaps we could meet up sometime?
I’d enjoy meeting up very much
Rob
mapwelsh3@yahoo.com
I’ll be in touch, having some computer issues at minute. Just out of interest (having just read about the ‘ark & vortex’ stuff) have a watch of this interview.
http://video.google.co.uk/videosearch?q=project+camelot+ralph+ring&hl=en&emb=0#
All the Best
Rob
Rob: That is amazing. Who needs poxy drugs with that energy at your fingertips? Thanks.
Rob
Thanks for your support and your helpful comments.
I have said in the past and will say again for the record that I have my doubts about Obama and his ability to handle the crisis that is now in his lap, however I have reason for optimism in the recent treatment of Brown and his disdain for “the special relationship”.
This tells me that the Obama Administration is not going to behave as a sock puppet for the British Empire the way the Bush administration did, and that is VERY encouraging.
For example: did you see the press conference Hilary Clinton just gave last week with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov? Talk about a 180 degree shift in attitude. Only last year we were facing a reverse Cuban missile crisis over “missile defence” plans that everyone knew was a “first strike” provocation against Russia.
Contrast this new attitude of the US to that to the behaviour of the British government towards Russia. And who is behind most of this? George Soros. For example: The war in Georgia was made in London.
We need to understand and keep our eye on the real issue, which is the existential fight between the nation state system, and the supranational banking/financial cartel, headquartered in the City of London, that has declared war on civilization.
If the United States moves ahead with a four power alliance between Russia, China, India, then the City of London, it’s puppet EU and the British/European financial oligarchy and associated feudal Monarchies, are finished for good, and we will have a Renaissance on this planet, instead of a plunge into a dark age for all humanity.
Our own freedom and prosperity depends entirely on which direction the American government goes over the coming period, and to what extent they are listening to London instead of their own suffering people.
Time will tell, but I honestly believe there are grounds for cautious optimism.
Within the entire group of people called “Illuminati” there are various factions.
Obama is a senior Freemason and time will tell which camp he is in.
They know that we are word controlled beings and they also know how to lie to get what they want, cautious optimism is the right approach !
John Morton is correct. You can track the elite’s history in the drugs trade and the facts speak for themselves. The elite’s plan includes legalizing all drugs.
Now I know alcohol is a drug as well, and I’m not saying that no one should drink it. It’s a matter of self-control, some people have it and others don’t. However you only have to listen to Radio One to see what they are trying to do. They want people to have no self-control. You see, it is ever so useful when one wants to institute a police state, and this is why supermarkets have been selling it at less than the cost of it to them.
In my experience it is heroin that is the real big one for them, and if you have ever taken the trouble to see what that does to people then it would really scare the wits out of you. People end up as complete zombies, and they will do anything for their next fix, and I mean anything. How useful would that be if they wanted to assassinate someone? I have noticed a few bankers found dead in strange circumstances at the time the credit crunch scam was being put together. Dead people don’t talk. These junkies might as well be operated via a radio control handset, and that’s before we even go into the subject of so-called ‘designer drugs’.
you are correct on every point. I do have first hand experience of being involved with a heroin user and it was heartbreaking. I’m glad someone else has noticed these people who ’suicide???’ themselves, we had one recently in Portsmouth, bloke goes missing late at night and his body is found in the water the following morning, police said they’re not treating it as suspicious, How the heck can they say that??? That’s before any investigation! But then, the dead man had been running a couple of websites where he was exposing certain things.
On the subject of alcohol, for some years now there has been the availability of cheap, strong white cider and if you ask any street drinker (I used to work with them via Salvation Army although I’m not a memberof the SA) and they will say that white cider has never seen an apple! I’ve heard it said, also by street drinkers up and down the uk, that it’s cheap because the goverment is trying to kill them off!
I have not listened to radio1 for donkey’s years, or watched television, purely because of the reasons you state and also because it really pisses me to be addressed by the idiots who present these things. ‘Come on in, the madness is lovely’. I don’t know if you noticed a few years ago but most of the kids tv shows had some raving gay mincing about. I have nothing against anyone’s sexual tendencies as long as it does not harm others and is consensual and discrete. I mean, I’m a nonconformist but I don’t expect everyone else to be.
All in all, we’re in for an exciting year.
Gordon Brown Lies Hysterically Before Before Joint Session Of Congress
March 8, 2009 (LPAC)–President Obama’s snub and studied disrespect for visiting British Prime Minister Gordon Brown, reported as the chief political news this morning, served as a perfect backdrop to Brown’s frantic lies in his address today to a joint session of Congress.
Brown delivered a perverse fantasy, in which America’s historical resistance to British imperial crimes, became instead a record of unified Anglo-American purpose. He defined America’s task now as preserving the British-led international banking swindle, in opposition to any attempt to rescue the world from that collapsed system.
The British spokesman said, “The very creation of America was a bold affirmation of faith in the future….” This is useful: we had previously thought that the British had played a negative role in the American Revolution.
Brown explained that the world “looked to Washington D.C. as `a shining city upon a hill,’” and that “our friendship [was] formed and forged over two tumultuous centuries….” By that chronology, the friendship got off to a roaring start about when British forces burned Washington to the ground (1814), and got even friendlier with British aid to the slaveowners’ Confederate war to smash the U.S.
He said he “grew up in the 1960s as America, led by President Kennedy, looked to the heavens and saw … a new frontier….” Unfortunately, the British-Wall Street axis murdered Kennedy for having such an outlook. No doubt to remind us of the danger such a point of view can put a President in, today’s London Times carries, right beside a transcript of Brown’s speech, an archive photo of President Kennedy being shot to death in Dallas.
Brown announced that the majestic British queen has awarded an honorary knighthood to the stricken Senator Ted Kennedy, because “Northern Ireland is today at peace.” Well, it is truly a puzzler to remember, which occupier was it, that brought centuries of cruelty and chaos to Ireland, requiring U.S. intervention to bring “peace”?
The successor to Tony Blair said “we grieve with you” when “a young American soldier is killed in conflict … in the plains of Afghanistan and the streets of Iraq.” This is good to know, after Blair’s WMD intelligence buoyed up Bush for Baghdad, and now that British forces directly superintend the global heroin trade’s center in the Afghan Helmand province.
Brown declared his “support to ensure there is no hiding place for terrorists, no safe haven for terrorism.” That will come as thrilling news for U.S. and other intelligence services coping with “Londonistan” — the undisturbed English headquarters for most of the world’s terror groups, groups financed by British-laundered dope profits.
The Prime Minister lectured America and the world on how to deal with the “economic hurricane” that “has swept the world.” As the City of London’s quadrillion dollar offshore banking pyramid dissolves, Brown says, “you [U.S.A.] are restructuring your banks. So are we [British]. But how much safer would everybody’s savings be if the whole world finally came together to outlaw shadow banking systems and offshore tax havens?”
This attitude is especially refreshing, correcting the impression Brown gave earlier in his visit, when he was reportedly desperate to head off U.S. moves against offshore criminals.
He assured the Congress that if his program is followed, we will see “trade once again the engine of prosperity, [and] the wealth of nations restored.” How the heart sings! — to hear again from the British source, the truths of Free Trade, of Trade itself (rather than production) as the source of wealth, and the grand homage to the East India Company’s Adam Smith, whose 1776 book “Wealth of Nations” warned the American rebels they could never escape destiny’s assignment to be mere plantation suppliers of raw materials to the foreign empire.
He closed with praise for Franklin Roosevelt, which was very reassuring in light of the attacks against FDR now pouring out of London into the world’s media, reviving Churchill’s central role in burying FDR’s policies after World War II.
With this, Brown called for renewal of the “special relationship” that has blazed so brightly over the years.
John,
The above piece, to be honest, has totally confused me! I look at a lot of American sourced material and see the Americans up in arms against Obama and what he’s doing with trillions of dollars of bail outs; what he’s doing with suggesting the draft; what he’s doing in continuing Iraq and Afghanistan and the American imperialism; taking away rights to hold arms; Halliburton building FEMA detention camps which can hold millions all over the USA; NAFTA moving toward NAU etc etc etc (He hasn’t even proven his eligibility to be POTUS!!)… Americans are swearing “allegiance” to Obama now these days rather than the Constitution. The individual states are writing up tenth amendment schedules (secession “cease and desist” orders) against the Fed government.
Yet, you’re suggesting he could be a “good guy”?
So, let me get this straight: We’ve got the Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Soros’ etc. We have Rockefeller at the helm of Bilderberg, Trilateral, CFR etc (Rothschild is very silent when it comes to his involvement in any such org like RIIA etc).
Rockefeller’s memoirs state he has worked constantly for the destruction of nations and he wants a supranational one world government run by bankers (what more evidence do we need than that simple statement?). Meanwhile, Zbigniew Brzezinski (Obama’s mentor) is a Trilateral founder with Rockefeller and has guided Obama through the “white man’s power structure” to the top spot.
How on earth could this guy Obama seriously NOT be a NWO puppet?
What am I missing here?
You’re not missing much!
The only thing you’re missing, as far as I can see, is that no matter who paid for Obama’s election campaign, he still has free will. As unlikely as it sounds, it could just be that he is going against the wishes of his political puppeteers, and with the interests of the American people. It has happened before, usually with bad consequences for the individual concerned. Time will tell if it is happening again, and if he can live through the process.
Yea right, and you end up toast….JFK anyone.
You’ve missed nothing !
The answer to your question lies in the Institution of the Presidency, which is a separate branch of government to the elected Congress and Judiciary.
If we look at history, there have been times when, the United States being under existential threat of destruction, the Presidency has moved in and fought to save the Republic.
I cannot prove that Obama is acting from good intentions, and it is clear that whatever he does for the good, there will be mistakes, and also resistance from internal enemies of the country, but we should always remember history.
FDR was similarly opposed. Called a “communist”, a “socialist”, “traitor to his class” etc etc etc. The bankers tried to have him assassinated twice, and failing in that, organized an attempted coup d’etat, which also failed thanks to General Smedley Butler.
Things are not always as they appear on the surface, so we have to keep an open mind.
Who knows, Brown himself may even have had a personal epiphany and even believed some of what he said to the US Congress last week.
Politicians, however corrupt, are still human beings, and in times as grim as these, human beings will act in ways that are not always easy to predict.
It’s interesting you think that for I do also. Our MPs have, for the last couple of weeks, been bombarded by me with information (and questions) that they just don’t seem to wish to reply to (specifically focused on Mr Ken Clarke for one reason or another
) and my idea is simply to get them to read and consider and attack their human conscience.
It’s HARD WORK! LOL
Are they human? Well they procreate like the rest of us don’t they? But, to be perfectly honest, I find many of them exceptionally dumb. Not all…. but MANY.
“Prohibitionist policies based on eradication, interdiction and criminalisation have not yielded the expected results. We are today farther than ever from the goal of eradicating drugs.” – César Gaviria
Seem to go hand in hand?
LaRouche: Stop the Drug Takeover of the World Economy
January 28, 2009 (LPAC)–”This is Doomsday Time,” Lyndon LaRouche stated today. “The world’s available money supply is tied largely to the attempted bail-out of financial institutions, and you’ve got a shortage of money, of any kind of credit, building up rapidly into catastrophic levels in every other area.” LaRouche noted that even projections such as those issued yesterday by the U.N’s International Labor Organization, that more than 50 million jobs would be lost worldwide by the end of 2009, are “optimistic,” considering how rapidly the world economy is actually disintegrating.
“People are going to start dying as a result of these economic conditions,” LaRouche emphasized. “Now, the argument is that you have to be good to the drug pushers, because they are the only ones who are supplying the loose cash. With this situation presently, in which the world money supply is collapsing and the drug supply of money is increasing, it’s important to make that your target. Destroy the bastards! There’s no reason to put up with this crap. Civilization is at stake.”
LaRouche explained why drug legalizer George Soros and his British sponsors have to be stopped: “The danger is, in these times, that they are going to take over the whole world economy. And the people who are pushing drugs will thrive; and those who get drug money will feel that they are going to thrive, too. And those who are not getting the drug money are going to find out that they don’t get anything. So therefore, we have to shut them down. People will say: ‘But then you’re going to take our money away!’ ‘Oh, really?! You mean you’re on drugs, huh?’ And that’s the way to do it. That kind of roughness is needed. Without that you won’t get anywhere.
LaRouche also addressed U.S. policy towards Afghanistan, the source of 95% of the world’s opium. “We can’t waste our troops on trying to regulate legalized drug traffic in places like Afghanistan. This is legalized dope pushing, which the former U.S. administration–we don’t know if the former President was taking the stuff at the time he was President, but we do know that they had a soft policy towards the drug pushers, and maybe towards some drug consumers, if they were members of the Bush family.”
LaRouche also stated that Admiral Michael Mullen was right to call for dialogue with Iran. “We should talk to the Iranians about this drug problem, about securing the region against the drug problem. Iran will get on the bad side of the Saudis on this one, because the Saudis are in with the drug operation, because they’re not really productive. I don’t even know if they’re reproductive.
“The U.S. should have a policy of shrewder imagination, and get out of the rut,” LaRouche said. “Let’s start thinking clearly about how we deal with these problems. We should be talking to Iran about our mutual interest in freeing the world of this drug pestilence. They are not blind on the issue of the ‘colonial powers’ involved. So why not take the best side of them, and give them a chance to get out from under this kind of situation they’re subjected to?
“If you go at the drug pushers on this issue–they must be shut down–then you are going to smoke people out, who are going to admit that they are on the drug take. We want to really make people see that you’ve got a drug economy, not a people economy.
“This is crucial right now. We have to suddenly crack this drug issue. And we have to treat very seriously my approach to getting House Speaker Nancy Pelosi out now. The point is, right now, if you don’t get Pelosi out, you’re not going to have a United States. This creature has been around to long. She should go back to her home.
“We’ll never be able to deal with the drug problem, we’ll never be able to deal with these crises and the suffering of the people, unless we get Pelosi to resign now. And she can be induced to resign, and it should happen quickly,” LaRouche concluded.
London Economist: Of Course Drug Legalization Will Increase Consumption, You Nitwit!
March 9, 2009 (LPAC)–Lyndon LaRouche’s EIR magazine has long argued that the entire purpose of Dope, Inc.’s campaign of drug legalization is to intentionally increase global consumption of drugs, as part of their new opium war on the world.
For example, EIR’s Feb. 27, 2009 cover feature, “Britain’s Dope, Inc.: Marker for Humanity’s New Dark Age,” states: “The idea that drug prices are somehow set by `market supply and demand’ is utterly ludicrous. Dope, Inc. is a cartel, which establishes `fiat prices,’ in the words of one U.S. intelligence specialist consulted by EIR. This also points to the idiocy of the argument that drug legalization will get rid of the nasty criminals, supposedly because lower prices will make drug trafficking `less profitable.’ Lowering prices is exactly what Dope, Inc. itself has been doing for decades, with a resulting vast expansion of its markets–and profits! You can almost hear George Soros sneering: `You’re threatening to lower drug prices by legalizing? Make my day!’ ”
An exaggeration? Not in the least. Here is how it was put by the City of London’s mouthpiece, the sneering London Economist, in its March 5, 2009 edition:
“But it is hard to argue that sales of any product that is made cheaper, safer and more widely available would fall. Any honest proponent of legalization would be wise to assume that drug-taking as a whole would rise.”
At least the British are “honest” in their criminal proposal of increasing drug addiction.
Fighting fire with fire has made bigger fire, it needs to be fought with water !
Glenn,
What would the “water” be in your view?
Hi Mark,
If the idea is to reduce harm done by drugs as much as possible in as many ways as possible, I think there are two ways to try and achieve that.
One of those ways is to criminalize then raid, attack, execute and all those things. This has been tried and has failed. While this has been the policy, harm done by drugs has increased enormously. This is fighting fire with fire, it hasn’t worked, it is the policy that has brought us to where we are today.
There are cultures and villages in the Himalayas that have lived with the cannabis plant, with total acceptance, for thousands of years, and until Western interference came along they didn’t even have a word for crime. It was with the introduction of televisions that crime began and started to increase, until then nobody stole or mugged or any of that crap !
Pretty much the same thing can be said about the coca plant and the native south Americans. Peaceful people in tune with the land, their animals and each other, until western culture turns up and sticks the boot in, because one of the sacred plants these people have interacted with safely for thousands of years is now worth a few bob, because of criminalization, in u.s. u.k. etc.
The bazookas used in attacks on police and army in Mexico recently were paid for with cocaine money. Money from Western customers. To use water on these most recent events, and bearing in mind that no policy has immediate effect, i would say to the American and European customers that are buying bazookas for drug cartels, that they can put a coca plant in their back gardens and deprive those cartels and all those middle men, and dealer gangsters at this end of their profits.
The users that struggle to find the money every day would not need to go stealing and mugging and whatever else. This also restores the common law rights to the user as because his habit no longer leads to crime it could no longer be shown his actions caused harm to others, just as the consumption of coca leaf by native south Americans causes no harm to their neighbors. A massive problem of war and gangsters and robberies becomes a man with a coca plant in the garden, which he pulls some leaves off each day and then chews them !
So i suppose acceptance is the nearest thing to a one word definition of water, but as you know drugs is not a subject in isolation, killing the telly, ending gangster rap culture and all that shit has to happen too.
Well that’s how i see it anyway !
As for Soros and his idea of legalization, if his legalization means there would be licensed dealers, then all those granted licenses would be his own people however many independent looking fronts they show. This would not be my idea of a good thing, the legalization i want is probably better described as freedomisation, where all men are free to do what they want on condition they cause no harm/ breach of peace and all that !
Glenn:
“the legalization i want is probably better described as freedomisation, where all men are free to do what they want on condition they cause no harm/ breach of peace and all that !”
What you are describing is, in fact, ‘the law’ – the entirety of which can be boiled down to:
1: do no harm to others
2: deprive no one of their rightful property
3: Use no mischief in your contracts
The above is the universal social contract, applying to all people at all times in all places. Everything else (a.k.a. legislation) is simply crap people make up to accrue more power to themselves.
Peter Tosh needn’t have said ‘legalize it’. Statutes are entirely powerless without the consent of the governed. “I don’t consent” would have been a more powerful statement.
Thanks Frank, It always felt like it should be the law. I’m going to have to do the Freeman route. Are You on that path ?
Why chemical drugs when organic plants were used to scientifically extract the “drug/s?”
Ayurvedic and Chinese medicine is far superior to “western.”
CHINA HAS NEVER RECOVERED FROM THE OPIUM WARS.
Look at the country and it is clear that the “Skull & Bones” partners did indeed use drugs as the weapon of war and China was the highest RENAISSANCE on the planet earth when the BRITISH and AMERICAN DRUG SMUGGLERS destroyed the Chinese civilization by selling opium for only silver and only silver paid their taxes … no silver to pay taxes meant the Chinese government collapsed.
Look how many Chinese people were slaughtered because of opium addiction AND the country has been in a state of NO to almost no imagination since the late 1800s.
No genuine great art comes from China anymore and has not, since that time.
Mostly all we see from China are human beings who do not have a clue as to what it means: individual creative imagination.
The only Chinese who have escaped the devolution of the race are the ANCIENT TAOIST MASTERS.
MASTERS OF HEAVEN AND EARTH TAI CHI, Chinese who have taken the human condition/species to the highest level – virtuous subtle energy cultivated into inner/outer AND NO DRUGS necessary for the reality of bliss, the elixir of life = spiritual truth:
http://emptymindfilms.com/?page_id=80
What do you think of the monks of Nepal that have used the Nepalese Temple balls (cannabis) throughout time for meditation. Should they be criminalized ?
Oh, and by the way, the Russell Smuggling Company including its partners, F.T. Bush, Esq. from Hong Kong, and the other cousins, etc., et al. — THEM of Great Britain pedigree (all bloodlines of this ilk are “related”), saw to it that the communism worked when the drug addiction created nothing more than blubbering piles of protoplasm.
Karl Marx (my cousin once removed) had his work altered to be other than COOPERATION, and therefore the Chinese believed he was Satan for “destroying their country.”
Many Chinese today, as well as too many humans — still believe that he (Karl Marx) was responsible for creating communism in China.
NO, this is not true and Robin de Ruiter has once again, uncovered the bloodlines who rule the world and no punches are held back.
The idea to own the whole planet has created every DIS-EASE on earth. Look at all the poly-addicted drug addicts in America and we can clearly discern how brains work when poisoned into toxic shocks of electromagnetic activity, but not a cell working of synapses to cognitively deduce, in reality, a necessary function for mental, emotional and physical health (George W. Bush is the absolute proof of the type of human who is a drug experiment for the “Ruling God Class of Earth”).
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20090310/tuk-mother-faces-jail-over-baby-s-death-dba1618.html
This was simply pure outright MURDER! And i would go further to say that the F*ing judiciary are as corrupt a lot as any. These people should be sentenced for “allowing murder without proper punishment for it”.
Fabian Eugenics could come into play here of course??
We NEED to STOP this shit!
Ok but my real point was that liberal attitudes towards drugs are destroying society and plunging this world into a dark age of savagery, infanticide, menticide and social chaos – just what the NWO is designed to do.
During the prohibition in America alcohol became condensed, it was so strong it blinded people. Crack may start life as a coca plant but is condensed for transportation and concealment, not to mention washed through with acid then microwaved. All this because it is illegal. This shit just does not happen amongst the indigenous of Peru !
Aye John. Recognised that. I just went off on another possible aspect too. Perhaps off on a curve though! LOL
Lives enriched by Libertarianism:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsnolB_2uEg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxZtvyd27Ck
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xISFxedkhl8
http://www.sundaymail.co.uk/news/scottish-news/2007/11/25/heroin-hell-of-120-000-children-78057-20157967
http://news.stv.tv/scotland/77100-murder-trial-hears-how-baby-died
Harrowing !
In all of the prostitution cases the girls needed money for drugs. Let them report to a chemist each day for what they need. It doesn’t cure the addiction but ends the necessity for this ugly lifestyle and takes the profits from the dealers that get them hooked in the first place !
And their babies and children, what changes for them then? They are still subjected to neglect, danger and murder etc. Life with an addict is still ugly and disgusting.
I see that we back on drugs again.
If children are introduced to drugs they will almost certainly become “hooked.”
Dare I say that the same does not apply to, say, wine ? In moderation, of course. Just look at the continent. It’s a way of life there but you can’t say that they are all alcohol-dependent.
The NHS uses morphine obtained from where ? Yes, that’s right.
So, we reduce the AMOUNT of drug plants and grow just enough to supply the relevant institutions. The rest we destroy – somehow !
If that sounds naive, then I suppose it must be. But it’s a good start !
Having said that, I have no argument against grown adults who wish to drug themselves, so they had better use a room for growing cannabis !
Anything stronger and I believe the law should step in. We simply can’t have legalised
drug use or, without doubt, the whole country would sink into useless zombies, and you would be frightened of hailing a taxi, or using a ‘bus or train etc. Even getting on a ‘plane could be dangerous !
Legalising ALL drugs is not the answer I’m afraid.
I’ve mentioned an issue I have with ALL of this discussion and hope of impacting on all of this before. That is that, while I think it is entirely possible for a movement such as this in the UK to have an impact, I believe it will be a very short lived one if we do not link up with other such groups in other countries.
I think the Americans are going about it all wrong too. They think only of protecting the American Constitution and their own country while the enemy is one which is global in reach and global in influence.
So EVEN IF this group had a success in bringing change to the UK (which I pray can be the case) to do it in isolation is dangerous. I hope you can see why?
While I agree with you in general, I think you underestimate the effect we (the British people in general) could have. Since it is London which is the core of the global disease, it’s here that we can have the biggest effect if we can cut the cancer out.
So John (if its John),
When do I get to walk into Parliament and make a few arrests?
What’s the focus here? What’s the strategy? what’s the timescale? What tools do we use? Why don’t we have a protest outside parliament (or in London) regarding the Heath sedition and treason?
Or an “army” of people into the police stations. Or outside the BBC?
Making a noise with 5 or 10,000 people?
It can’t just be all info and conferences with no action. I’m not saying it is that but I’ve been trying to understand what the overall strategy is and so far I’m not any further forward. Perhaps that’s my incapability to grasp it I accept that.
Best.
Glenn says above: “This shit just does not happen amongst the indigenous of Peru !”
Glenn, please! The people of Peru are poor, and at this time can’t afford the drugs the likes of Soros would push on us.
You also said “During the prohibition in America alcohol became condensed, it was so strong it blinded people. Crack may start life as a coca plant but is condensed for transportation and concealment, not to mention washed through with acid then microwaved. All this because it is illegal.”
Can I humbly point out the trend in the latest forms of marijuana? Are they not being intentionally “condensed” to give an ever bigger hit?
As you point out in another comment, “as for Soros and his idea of legalisation, if his legalisation means there would be licensed dealers, then all those granted licenses would be his own people however many independent looking fronts they show.”
What Soros is aiming for is a hooked population and guaranteed tax revenues and profits. He represents slavery, and worse, because, of course, his way will guarantee a monopoly of supply meaning prices will be set at levels of their choice. And because what they will push will be highly addictive, people will have no choice but to pay.
Dear Editor
I would like to point out that heroin is available to you today, in vast quantities at a price you can afford. This does not make you , or I , go out and buy some.
Anyone who wants any drug in the u.k today can already go and get it !
The War on drugs has not prevented that ! A bigger war on drugs like the one in Mexico will not prevent it either, we’ll just have a bigger war !
As I have already said, If Soros wants licensed dealers with all profits to him, I’m not for that. That is not the decriminalization, or rather freedomisation, i am looking for.
As for cannabis, what you have been told is mainly nonsense propaganda. Amongst the massive variety of cannabis plants there are mild, medium and strong, which i would equate with shandy , beer and spirits. I should also point out that there has never been a single death caused by the use of cannabis in the thousands of years of well documented worldwide use. It is impossible, repeat impossible, to overdose on cannabis. The worst that can happen is to feel a bit queesy. If a person does nothing but smoke joint after joint of the very strongest cannabis for month after month they can become confused. This passes very quickly.
The poor people of Peru have access to as much cocaine as you could shake a stick at !
No deaths as a result of Cannabis/skunk/marijuana? CRAP
http://www.schizophrenia.com/prevention/cannabis.marijuana.schizophrenia.html
Saying that drugs are not a MAJOR vector in violence and street crime is like saying that video games have nothing to do with the mass shootings that are now occuring with alarming frequency:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/4972870/Teenage-gunman-who-killed-11-at-German-school-shot-dead-by-police.html
If we don’t deal with the CAUSALITY, we are wasting our time and efforts to find a solution.
The solution is to BAN the cause of the aberration and ENFORCE that ban by going after the people who are propagating it.
In this case, the video games industry should be tried and convicted for crimes against humanity. The evidence is there to prove the connection between these mass murders and violent video games, and the same is true of street crimes and drugs.
This is a CRIMINAL matter, not a health and safety issue.
To All
It’s been great fun debating this with you all but i think the time has come to agree to disagree.
I think what i have learned from this is that there are three camps each with their own opinion.
1, Pro war on drugs. 2, de criminalizers, 3, Soros and his world domination movement.
I will remain a decriminalizer, thanks for the debate.
If you don’t mind John. I’d just like to add to that, that while it would be wonderful to achieve Utopia we have to remain realistic and recognise that drugs, one way or another, are always going to be part of a culture or subculture in the world.
Therefore, whether one is a “de criminalizer” or “pro war on drugs”; again, I believe, we have one single aim. To eradicate the Soros movement and rid our country of this scourge.
I lived in Singapore for a few years. They deal with things pretty well over there (though still not 100%). Singapore is such a totalitarian state (”benign” dictatorship) its like a template for where the UK is heading (not good) BUT wrt their hard line on drugs: Good.
Lee Kwan Yew studied and agreed with fabian principles in setting up Singapore.
The price of Freedom is eternal vigilance.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1161197/Psychotic-cannabis-user-stabbed-police-officer-death-busy-street.html
Another one of those non-existent cannabis death statistics.
John, again I am not condoning drug use in any way whatsoever but I don’t know if you have ever touched cannabis in your life but I have – while at university 25 years ago. I enjoyed it for a short while since I was never into alcohol (I drank a little but very little and irregularly). I also found very definitely during that period that alcohol, in quantity, would/could have a more aggressive impact on me (and is well understood many others). Cannabis/Marijuana however – as much as it is illegalized – does not make a person aggressive in any shape or form. Other drugs will/can such as cocaine etc but cannabis, no. In fact, the very opposite.
This man in the article had consumed seemingly immense quantities of alcohol WHILE being a schizophrenic and having other issues. This man seems to have simply lost ALL control and to focus in on his use of cannabis would be wrong.
Meanwhile, Glenn I believe was specifically speaking of the effects of Cannabis not killing those who take it.
Today, I’d never touch the stuff but neither do i touch alcohol at all much either. I just don’t need it.
But I will restate my experience with the stuff then has me fully aware cannabis does NOT make one aggressive in any way. Mixing it with other issues and particularly alcohol then possibly. But I would bet all I have that there are a fraction of aggressive attacks related to purely cannabis use than those attributed to alcohol. That is without a shadow of a doubt (and not simply due to there being far more consumption of alcohol than cannabis).
Again, I don’t condone the use of cannabis because I know the effects it CAN have on people. It simply takes them out of their “reality” (and I might add can be very creative) BUT alcohol does exactly the same without the “creativity”.
Also, re the computer games: We have a problem in society John. It is the lack of hope or fairness or equality etc that is destroying our society and creates dysfunction in so many ways. In Glasgow decades ago, we had gang violence and more stabbings and murders than you could count. There was no computer games but there was always alcohol (comparatively, very little drug abuse at that time also).
It is society built upon inequality and lack of opportunity and hope that is the problem. All these other elements are “symptoms” of this fundamental flaw.
The Government could so easily change all of this. We could have such a positive and capable society but that is simply not the government’s agenda.
Best.
Mark
Trust me. I am no stranger to drugs.
The fact of this case is that this man BECAME a schizophrenic after taking high quantities of cannabis. Alchohol does not have this effect.
The point is that some people react one way to psychotropic drugs and other people react other ways.
Just because when you get high you might want to make love to a mushroom and spend your nights in a poetic reverie that would rival William Blake or Lord Byron, this does not mean that other people will have the same reaction.
For example, I am a happy drunk. I like people more when I have had a drink and I am not going to sit here and say I have never dabbled with illegal substances out of some form of “moral high ground”, because I have.
BUT, since I have now become fully conscious of what the real nature of the drug economy is, the damage that such illegal drugs are doing, both to myself, wider society, and to the poor people involved in their production and distribution – I have been forced to re-evaluate my formerly, shall we say, laissez-faire attitudes on the subject, and come into the light.
It is not simply a matter of the criminal law. There is much more on a social and political level that needs to be done to take away the reasons that people are turning to drugs in such great numbers, both for spiritual, aswell as economic and social reasons, but my point remains, until we confront these issues head on, starting with our own attitudes, we cannot make progress and WIN THIS DAMNED WAR!
John,
I just want to win this DAMNED WAR as you say.
As I’ve said before, deal with the “side” issues later. Just let’s get this scum out of our government and politics. I’m not saying 100% of them are scum but its a pretty big number. Then you have those who just don’t have a clue and there are quite a few of them. So our country is run by scum and incompetents.
There are a handful who I’m sure are there for the right reasons BUT it seems even they don’t wish to stick their necks above the parapet.
Give it a rest People,This site is concernd with bigger problems than ,if Drugs should be Legal or Not,that is why i am here.
MICK
Give it a rest People,This site is concernd with bigger problems than ,if Drugs should be Legal or Not,that is why i am here.
This is an issue as we have a man writing for a paper about our freedom and rights yet does not understand that to change ones conciousness, that of cognitive liberty is one of out most fundamental freedoms.
Yes, there is a great deal of harm caused by certain types of drug use, alchohol and tobacco of the most concern,
The author in his ignorance fails to elucidate or at least show he is aware that there are many different ‘drugs’ be it synthetic or plant based with a wide variety of action. He has also not aware that for many decades the government and various bodies have been giving out false information on ‘drugs’.
Glenn makes a worthy observation that drug harm s mainly caused by its illegal nature and the false information generally available. Let it be known there are smart and stupid ways to consume a variety of substances, and it is up to those knowledgable in this area to pass on the correct knowledge and encourange responible use.
Going back to my comment regarding differing drugs, it seems to be that certain drugs such as heroin, cocaine are used to disrupt society by the goivernment (opium production has increased since the invasion of afghan) whereas other illegal drugs, such as the psychedelics are outlawed because those in charge would not want a population that spends alot of time carefully considering its world view and our place in it.
If we want to be specific regarding drug laws we can talk about the missapplication by the government of the Misuse of drugs act (1971). The act set up to protect individuals and society form the harms of ‘drugs’. The advisory council on the miuse of drugs is setup to advise government on this subject. The advisory council are being consistently ignored and have recently made a new league table of harm with out legal drugs of alchohol and tobacco being far higher up the list than many so called class A psychedelics. What the government are doing is breaking a central tenet of law, that of applying laws neutrally. They side with the dangerous legal drugs that the of the voting majority and victimise the minority that use less harmful illegal drugs. They consistantly ignore the ACMD. This is illegal and I direct you all to http://www.drugequality.org
I must also emphasis another point Glenn made, it is our undeniable right to alter our own conciousness and practice our own religion. The shamanic use of plant teachers existed through all peopls and places in times going by and still exist in many tribal societies to this day. The religious powers of catholicism destroyed indian spirituality in central america by forbidding their use of plant teachers such as peyote, thisi s the work of the inquisition. Europe was stripped of such connections (burning of the witches) and at the moment we have a society with a growing number of people aware of this, there is a re shamanising of the west.
As I said there is intelligent and stupid drug use, and an awful lot of information. I urge the author john to do some more research on this subject and if you are eager John I will point you to a variety of resources of illumination,
LETS ALL DISCUSS WHAT IS …GOOD AND WHAT IS …EVIL … ANY TAKERS ?
Sorry, to clarify first 2 lines of my previous post was a quote from Mick.
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JohnMorton
Starting with our own attitudes, we cannot make progress and WIN THIS DAMNED WAR!
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So best not to marginalise a whole section of society that are more aware than most of what has been going on and have been screaming about it for a long time ?
John
Legalisation of drugs could save taxpayer 14bn
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2009/apr/07/drugs-policy-legalisation-report
The tax payer in this country is never saved anything – ever.
We are here to be milked and bled until we die!
The Guardian stinks! It’s a psy-op for toffee-nosed communitarian twerps!.
Well I shant dissagree about the paper !
That said it makes the point that legalisation will take up less resources, reduce harm and give people the freedom to make their own choices in this regard. On these points it is blatantly obvious that sense is being spoken.
I see you have been debating for a while so i will keep this short. DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING THIS LYING GOVERNMENT TELLS YOU ABOUT DRUGS!!! If they paraded alchaholics around the mainstream media for the next ten years and showed you all the nasty sides of alchahol only, you would think of alchahol the same way you currently do about crack. When was th last time you heard a positive story on drugs NEVER, also have you looked at the benifits of some of these so called “drugs”. Did you know eating hemp seeds lowers cholesterol and eats fatty acids? or that Henry Ford built a car purely from hemp? or that in some states of the USA in the past it was illegal NOT to grow hemp? Unfortunatly the oil barons got scared (you can make bio-degradeable plastic from hemp) that simply would not do what stop using oil to make plastics!!! Don’t believe me though o just a little digging and you will stumple over some almost unbelievable facts. Finally should in not be personal choice weather to take one drug or anoher, who are thay to tell us what we can and can’t take?
Peace everyone
PS. Seriously do some digging!
Alex,
Please read the discussion before posting. Your points have been covered in detail already.
As for hemp, it is not a drug, so while your argument is correct, it isn’t really relevant to this discussion.