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		<title>By: Tim O</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 15:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is  an interesting article,Brian may like to have a read of this as a former
submarine commander.Dont know what to make of it or what/if any of it is true?
Note.uss san Francisco  attack against watcher?
It seems strange that all those forces are opperatonal against  allerged pirates off
Somallia (golf of Eden] 
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1180.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is  an interesting article,Brian may like to have a read of this as a former<br />
submarine commander.Dont know what to make of it or what/if any of it is true?<br />
Note.uss san Francisco  attack against watcher?<br />
It seems strange that all those forces are opperatonal against  allerged pirates off<br />
Somallia (golf of Eden]<br />
<a href="http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1180.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1180.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: John Morton</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Morton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 17:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My word, the MST: a verirable who&#039;s who of fascist pigs feeding at the trough of England.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My word, the MST: a verirable who&#8217;s who of fascist pigs feeding at the trough of England.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim O</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 11:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have a read of the following link for those that do not think the queen
is behind the NWO .
http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&amp;friendID=147509065&amp;blogID=454452693&amp;Mytoken=782F0841-1F1F-4C15-AAC62257DF8D5756152449128</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have a read of the following link for those that do not think the queen<br />
is behind the NWO .<br />
<a href="http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&amp;friendID=147509065&amp;blogID=454452693&amp;Mytoken=782F0841-1F1F-4C15-AAC62257DF8D5756152449128" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&amp;friendID=147509065&amp;blogID=454452693&amp;Mytoken=782F0841-1F1F-4C15-AAC62257DF8D5756152449128</a></p>
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		<title>By: cheesy</title>
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		<dc:creator>cheesy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 09:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Going back a bit, I understand that the Queen is not the Crown but is part of it, and is its figurehead however she is also related to the Rothchilds.  And, possibly Mandelson too then? 
She and Prince Charles are often at Exbury in Hampshire, visiting relatives. What a defective genepool this Rothchild dynasty have, greedy, viscious and unattractive! 
Presumably the Royals are near the top of the EU monetary/ control pyramid, and the eventual One World pyramid.
I am becoming sick of the Queen and the way she blindly signs everything, not wanting to rock the boat.  I read somewhere that the Windsors are not our real royal family and that our true monarch lives modestly in the Channel Islands or the Isle of Man?  I like the sound of him.

On a different subject.
Question:   What is the definition of &quot;irony&quot;?

Answer:  www.theorwellprize.co.uk/the-award/who.aspx?org=mst

The priveleged and deceitful pigs of Animal Farm award a prize to the writer who reminds them most of George Orwell&#039;s literary legacy, you  couldn&#039;t make it up, could you?!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Going back a bit, I understand that the Queen is not the Crown but is part of it, and is its figurehead however she is also related to the Rothchilds.  And, possibly Mandelson too then?<br />
She and Prince Charles are often at Exbury in Hampshire, visiting relatives. What a defective genepool this Rothchild dynasty have, greedy, viscious and unattractive!<br />
Presumably the Royals are near the top of the EU monetary/ control pyramid, and the eventual One World pyramid.<br />
I am becoming sick of the Queen and the way she blindly signs everything, not wanting to rock the boat.  I read somewhere that the Windsors are not our real royal family and that our true monarch lives modestly in the Channel Islands or the Isle of Man?  I like the sound of him.</p>
<p>On a different subject.<br />
Question:   What is the definition of &#8220;irony&#8221;?</p>
<p>Answer:  <a href="http://www.theorwellprize.co.uk/the-award/who.aspx?org=mst" rel="nofollow">http://www.theorwellprize.co.uk/the-award/who.aspx?org=mst</a></p>
<p>The priveleged and deceitful pigs of Animal Farm award a prize to the writer who reminds them most of George Orwell&#8217;s literary legacy, you  couldn&#8217;t make it up, could you?!!</p>
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		<title>By: Biloxi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Biloxi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 21:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DEEP INSIGHTS:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUcVqG0AF50&amp;feature=related</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DEEP INSIGHTS:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUcVqG0AF50&amp;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUcVqG0AF50&amp;feature=related</a></p>
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		<title>By: John Morton</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Morton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 16:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FELICITY
by Gottfried Leibniz
1. &quot;Virtue is the habit of acting according to wisdom. It is necessary that practice accompany knowledge.

2. Wisdom is the science of felicity, [and] is what must be studied above all other things.

3. Felicity is a lasting state of pleasure. Thus, it is good to abandon or moderate pleasures which can be injurious, by causing misfortunes or by blocking [the attainment of] better and more lasting pleasures.

4. Felicity is a knowledge or feeling of perfection, not only in ourselves, but also in others, for in this way some further perfection is aroused in us.

5. To love is to find pleasure in the perfection of another.

6. Justice is charity or a habit of loving conformed to wisdom. Thus, when someone is inclined to justice, one tries to produce good for everybody, so far as one can, reasonably, but in proportion to the needs and merits of each: and even if one is obliged sometimes to punish evil persons, it is for the general good.

6a. Now, it is necessary to explain the feeling or the knowledge of perfection. The confused perception of some perfection constitutes the pleasure of sense, but this pleasure can be [productive] of greater imperfections which are born of it, as a fruit with a good taste and a good odor can conceal a poison. This is why one must shun the pleasures of sense, as one shuns a stranger, or, sooner, a flattering enemy.

7. Knowledge is of two kinds, that of facts and that of reasons. That of facts is perception, that of reasons is intelligence.

8. Knowledge of reasons perfects us because it teaches us universal and eternal truths, which are manifested in the perfect Being. But knowledge of facts is like that of the streets of a town, which serves us while we stay there, [but] after [leaving] which we don&#039;t wish to burden our memory any longer.

8a. The pleasures of sense which most closely approach pleasures of the mind, and are the most pure and the most certain, are that of music and that of symmetry, the former [being pleasure] of the ears, the latter of the eyes; for it is easy to understand the principles [raisons] of harmony, this perfection which gives us pleasure. The sole thing to be feared in this respect is to use it too often.

9. One need not shun at all pleasures which are born of intelligence or of reasons, as one penetrates the reason of the reason of perfections, that is to say as one sees them flow from their source, which is the absolutely perfect Being.

10. The perfect Being is called God. He is the ultimate reason of things, and the cause of causes. Being the sovereign wisdom and the sovereign power, he has always chosen the best and acts always in an orderly way.

11. One is happy when he loves God, and God, who has done everything perfectly, cannot fail to arrange everything thus, to elevate created beings to the perfection of which they are capable through union with him, which can subsists only through the spirit.

12. But one cannot love God without knowing his perfection or his beauty. And since we can know him only in his emanations, there are two means of seeing his beauty, namely in the knowledge of universal truths (which explain [their own] reasons in themselves], and in the knowledge of the Harmony of the Universe (in applying reasons to facts). That is to say, one must know the marvels of reason and the marvels of nature.

13. The marvels of reason and of eternal truths which our mind discovers in itself [are essential] in the sciences of reasoning about numbers, about figures, about good and evil, about justice and injustice.

14. The marvels of physical nature are the system of the universe, the structure of the bodies of animals, the causes of the rainbow, of magnetism, of the ebb and flow [of the tides], and a thousand other similar things.

15. One must hold as certain that the more a mind desires to know order, reason, the beauty of things which God has produced, and the more he is moved to imitate this order in the things which God has left to his direction, the happier he will be.

16. It is most true, as a result, that one cannot know God without loving one&#039;s brother, that one cannot have wisdom without having charity (which is the real touchstone of virtue), and that one even advances one&#039;s own good in working for that of others: for it is an eternal law of reason and of the harmony of things that the works of each [person] will follow it. Thus the sovereign wisdom has so well regulated all things that our duty must also be our happiness, that all virtue produces its [own] reward, and that all crime punishes itself, sooner or later.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FELICITY<br />
by Gottfried Leibniz<br />
1. &#8220;Virtue is the habit of acting according to wisdom. It is necessary that practice accompany knowledge.</p>
<p>2. Wisdom is the science of felicity, [and] is what must be studied above all other things.</p>
<p>3. Felicity is a lasting state of pleasure. Thus, it is good to abandon or moderate pleasures which can be injurious, by causing misfortunes or by blocking [the attainment of] better and more lasting pleasures.</p>
<p>4. Felicity is a knowledge or feeling of perfection, not only in ourselves, but also in others, for in this way some further perfection is aroused in us.</p>
<p>5. To love is to find pleasure in the perfection of another.</p>
<p>6. Justice is charity or a habit of loving conformed to wisdom. Thus, when someone is inclined to justice, one tries to produce good for everybody, so far as one can, reasonably, but in proportion to the needs and merits of each: and even if one is obliged sometimes to punish evil persons, it is for the general good.</p>
<p>6a. Now, it is necessary to explain the feeling or the knowledge of perfection. The confused perception of some perfection constitutes the pleasure of sense, but this pleasure can be [productive] of greater imperfections which are born of it, as a fruit with a good taste and a good odor can conceal a poison. This is why one must shun the pleasures of sense, as one shuns a stranger, or, sooner, a flattering enemy.</p>
<p>7. Knowledge is of two kinds, that of facts and that of reasons. That of facts is perception, that of reasons is intelligence.</p>
<p>8. Knowledge of reasons perfects us because it teaches us universal and eternal truths, which are manifested in the perfect Being. But knowledge of facts is like that of the streets of a town, which serves us while we stay there, [but] after [leaving] which we don&#8217;t wish to burden our memory any longer.</p>
<p>8a. The pleasures of sense which most closely approach pleasures of the mind, and are the most pure and the most certain, are that of music and that of symmetry, the former [being pleasure] of the ears, the latter of the eyes; for it is easy to understand the principles [raisons] of harmony, this perfection which gives us pleasure. The sole thing to be feared in this respect is to use it too often.</p>
<p>9. One need not shun at all pleasures which are born of intelligence or of reasons, as one penetrates the reason of the reason of perfections, that is to say as one sees them flow from their source, which is the absolutely perfect Being.</p>
<p>10. The perfect Being is called God. He is the ultimate reason of things, and the cause of causes. Being the sovereign wisdom and the sovereign power, he has always chosen the best and acts always in an orderly way.</p>
<p>11. One is happy when he loves God, and God, who has done everything perfectly, cannot fail to arrange everything thus, to elevate created beings to the perfection of which they are capable through union with him, which can subsists only through the spirit.</p>
<p>12. But one cannot love God without knowing his perfection or his beauty. And since we can know him only in his emanations, there are two means of seeing his beauty, namely in the knowledge of universal truths (which explain [their own] reasons in themselves], and in the knowledge of the Harmony of the Universe (in applying reasons to facts). That is to say, one must know the marvels of reason and the marvels of nature.</p>
<p>13. The marvels of reason and of eternal truths which our mind discovers in itself [are essential] in the sciences of reasoning about numbers, about figures, about good and evil, about justice and injustice.</p>
<p>14. The marvels of physical nature are the system of the universe, the structure of the bodies of animals, the causes of the rainbow, of magnetism, of the ebb and flow [of the tides], and a thousand other similar things.</p>
<p>15. One must hold as certain that the more a mind desires to know order, reason, the beauty of things which God has produced, and the more he is moved to imitate this order in the things which God has left to his direction, the happier he will be.</p>
<p>16. It is most true, as a result, that one cannot know God without loving one&#8217;s brother, that one cannot have wisdom without having charity (which is the real touchstone of virtue), and that one even advances one&#8217;s own good in working for that of others: for it is an eternal law of reason and of the harmony of things that the works of each [person] will follow it. Thus the sovereign wisdom has so well regulated all things that our duty must also be our happiness, that all virtue produces its [own] reward, and that all crime punishes itself, sooner or later.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: John Morton</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Morton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 16:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are with you Michael. The fight begins now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are with you Michael. The fight begins now.</p>
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		<title>By: Guy Reid-Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guy Reid-Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Greg - thanks for the reminder -  I have been feeling a bit lonely since my admittedly eccentric post re: this excellent article back on 28th November  (where I get Belle&#039;s name from &#039;A Christmas Carol&#039; wrong all the way through - and I read it very year!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Greg &#8211; thanks for the reminder &#8211;  I have been feeling a bit lonely since my admittedly eccentric post re: this excellent article back on 28th November  (where I get Belle&#8217;s name from &#8216;A Christmas Carol&#8217; wrong all the way through &#8211; and I read it very year!)</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear All, 
I would like to thank Mike for posting this piece from Henry Carey.
He is totally unknown to the general population at large in both the U.S.
and England. 
It is really sad to see the discussion of this article degrade down to the 
level it has. 
I believe the editor was trying to get a real discussion on the idea content of the 
Carey piece. The Carey piece shows that there are real differences between the 
Anglo-Dutch system and the American System. 
Do take a second read of this Carey piece and give thought on the ideas it contains
and lets try and discuss this based on ideas not on rumours and connect the 
dot thinking.
I say this as an American who has read some of Henry Carey, who is a leading
light in the Amercian System but is not taught in schools. In fact he is totally ignored.
Keep searching for the truth and with discussions of ideas we will getn there.
Thanks 
Greg Murphy
21st Century Science and Technology and EIR</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear All,<br />
I would like to thank Mike for posting this piece from Henry Carey.<br />
He is totally unknown to the general population at large in both the U.S.<br />
and England.<br />
It is really sad to see the discussion of this article degrade down to the<br />
level it has.<br />
I believe the editor was trying to get a real discussion on the idea content of the<br />
Carey piece. The Carey piece shows that there are real differences between the<br />
Anglo-Dutch system and the American System.<br />
Do take a second read of this Carey piece and give thought on the ideas it contains<br />
and lets try and discuss this based on ideas not on rumours and connect the<br />
dot thinking.<br />
I say this as an American who has read some of Henry Carey, who is a leading<br />
light in the Amercian System but is not taught in schools. In fact he is totally ignored.<br />
Keep searching for the truth and with discussions of ideas we will getn there.<br />
Thanks<br />
Greg Murphy<br />
21st Century Science and Technology and EIR</p>
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		<title>By: Baron von Lotsov</title>
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		<dc:creator>Baron von Lotsov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone come across this article?

&quot;The Mail on Sunday can reveal that Mandelson&#039;s family has links with powerful Russians stretching back at least two centuries, and he may even be related to the fabulously wealthy Rothschilds themselves. &quot;

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1084072/Mandelsons-family-history--claim-uncrowned-King-Poland.html

This explains everything about whom Mandelson is working for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone come across this article?</p>
<p>&#8220;The Mail on Sunday can reveal that Mandelson&#8217;s family has links with powerful Russians stretching back at least two centuries, and he may even be related to the fabulously wealthy Rothschilds themselves. &#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1084072/Mandelsons-family-history--claim-uncrowned-King-Poland.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1084072/Mandelsons-family-history&#8211;claim-uncrowned-King-Poland.html</a></p>
<p>This explains everything about whom Mandelson is working for.</p>
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		<title>By: Biloxi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Biloxi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SEVEN FINANCIAL CONSPIRACIES WHICH HAVE ENSLAVED THE AMERICAN PEOPLE BY MRS. SARAH E.V. EMERY

“ The great debt that capitalists will see to it is made out of the war, must be used as a measure to control the volume of money.&quot;  —Hazzard Circular.

CHAPTER I.  THE CIVIL WAR PRELIMINARY TO AN INFAMOUS PLOT.

THE Earl of Chatham, England’s great statesman, once said, “ Show me the laws of a country and I will show you the condition of its people.”

History bears us out in this statement, and we trace with minuteness the connection between land monopoly and national death. God has implanted in the human heart an unquenchable thirst for knowledge and for liberty, a knowledge of that liberty which makes men free from the bondage of their physical necessities and breaks the manacles of that slavery which through all ages, the strong have imposed upon the weaker portion of mankind.

Since the day that Esau sold his birthright for a mess of pottage, crafty men have taken advantage of the physical necessities of their less artful brothers ; since that day, too, hungry men have been selling the birthright of their liberty for a mess of pottage which barely enables them to eke out a miserable existence. From the days of Esau to the present time two classes of people have existed upon this earth, the one class who live by honest labor, the other who live off of honest labor. From earliest times the one class have lived by tilling the soil, raising flocks and herds, delving in mines, working in wood, brass and iron, or deriving their subsistance from the waters over which God had given them do minion. The other class consisted of roving bandits, who under chiefs or leaders subsisted by swooping down upon and plundering the honest toilers ; sometimes a strong band would take possession of a rich territory, subdue its people and divide the spoils between themselves ; the chief became king, the brigands nobility, and the conquered
people who only the day before were happy possessors of homes, became the slaves of this robber band who ruthlessly wrenched from them their homes and the products of their toil.

http://ia351442.us.archive.org/1/items/SevenFinancialConspiraciesWhichHaveEnslavedTheAmericanPeople/MicrosoftWord-Document1.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SEVEN FINANCIAL CONSPIRACIES WHICH HAVE ENSLAVED THE AMERICAN PEOPLE BY MRS. SARAH E.V. EMERY</p>
<p>“ The great debt that capitalists will see to it is made out of the war, must be used as a measure to control the volume of money.&#8221;  —Hazzard Circular.</p>
<p>CHAPTER I.  THE CIVIL WAR PRELIMINARY TO AN INFAMOUS PLOT.</p>
<p>THE Earl of Chatham, England’s great statesman, once said, “ Show me the laws of a country and I will show you the condition of its people.”</p>
<p>History bears us out in this statement, and we trace with minuteness the connection between land monopoly and national death. God has implanted in the human heart an unquenchable thirst for knowledge and for liberty, a knowledge of that liberty which makes men free from the bondage of their physical necessities and breaks the manacles of that slavery which through all ages, the strong have imposed upon the weaker portion of mankind.</p>
<p>Since the day that Esau sold his birthright for a mess of pottage, crafty men have taken advantage of the physical necessities of their less artful brothers ; since that day, too, hungry men have been selling the birthright of their liberty for a mess of pottage which barely enables them to eke out a miserable existence. From the days of Esau to the present time two classes of people have existed upon this earth, the one class who live by honest labor, the other who live off of honest labor. From earliest times the one class have lived by tilling the soil, raising flocks and herds, delving in mines, working in wood, brass and iron, or deriving their subsistance from the waters over which God had given them do minion. The other class consisted of roving bandits, who under chiefs or leaders subsisted by swooping down upon and plundering the honest toilers ; sometimes a strong band would take possession of a rich territory, subdue its people and divide the spoils between themselves ; the chief became king, the brigands nobility, and the conquered<br />
people who only the day before were happy possessors of homes, became the slaves of this robber band who ruthlessly wrenched from them their homes and the products of their toil.</p>
<p><a href="http://ia351442.us.archive.org/1/items/SevenFinancialConspiraciesWhichHaveEnslavedTheAmericanPeople/MicrosoftWord-Document1.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://ia351442.us.archive.org/1/items/SevenFinancialConspiraciesWhichHaveEnslavedTheAmericanPeople/MicrosoftWord-Document1.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Enufs Enuf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Enufs Enuf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom said:

By the way, The EU have a new scheme called the School Fruit Scheme allegedly concerned with the welfare of children. Each piece of fruit will have an EU label on it and the scheme will be supported by massive publicity (which we are helping to pay for ).

and immediately the thought &#039;dropped in&#039;:

&quot;you shall know them by their fruit&quot;  rofl!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

God really does work in mysterious ways!!</description>
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<p>By the way, The EU have a new scheme called the School Fruit Scheme allegedly concerned with the welfare of children. Each piece of fruit will have an EU label on it and the scheme will be supported by massive publicity (which we are helping to pay for ).</p>
<p>and immediately the thought &#8216;dropped in&#8217;:</p>
<p>&#8220;you shall know them by their fruit&#8221;  rofl!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>God really does work in mysterious ways!!</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Collins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 14:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Mandy&quot; was probably brought back at the instigation of the EU hierarchy, presumably to &quot;guide&quot; Daisy Brown in the EU doctrine AND to get the UK into the dreaded euro.   When the eurozone is worse off than us and their unemployment level is higher than ours, then why would we want to dig our grave even deeper than it is ?

Here we have a  disgraced  former cabinet member , put back into the cabinet, without being elected, writing the Queen&#039;s Speech and scheming to get us into the euro, amongst other things.  

At least the Daily Express and their political editor came out against us joini ng the euro.
So, we must thank Mr. Desmond for his patriotism.

By the way,  The EU have a new scheme called the School Fruit Scheme allegedly concerned with the welfare of children.  Each piece of fruit will have an EU label on it and the scheme will be supported by massive publicity (which we are helping to pay for ). 

All fruit must come from within  the eurozone ! That cuts out bananas !

Sheer naked propaganda and market fixing.  I believe this co ntravenes the Education Act regarding impartiality ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Mandy&#8221; was probably brought back at the instigation of the EU hierarchy, presumably to &#8220;guide&#8221; Daisy Brown in the EU doctrine AND to get the UK into the dreaded euro.   When the eurozone is worse off than us and their unemployment level is higher than ours, then why would we want to dig our grave even deeper than it is ?</p>
<p>Here we have a  disgraced  former cabinet member , put back into the cabinet, without being elected, writing the Queen&#8217;s Speech and scheming to get us into the euro, amongst other things.  </p>
<p>At least the Daily Express and their political editor came out against us joini ng the euro.<br />
So, we must thank Mr. Desmond for his patriotism.</p>
<p>By the way,  The EU have a new scheme called the School Fruit Scheme allegedly concerned with the welfare of children.  Each piece of fruit will have an EU label on it and the scheme will be supported by massive publicity (which we are helping to pay for ). </p>
<p>All fruit must come from within  the eurozone ! That cuts out bananas !</p>
<p>Sheer naked propaganda and market fixing.  I believe this co ntravenes the Education Act regarding impartiality ?</p>
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		<title>By: John Morton</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Morton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Baron

Yes, this is a problem, but not THE problem.

The main problem is the deflationary de-leveraging that is now occurring on a MASSIVE scale in the derivatives markets.

This is the cause of the  banking collapse and wild gyrations it the markets and asset prices generally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baron</p>
<p>Yes, this is a problem, but not THE problem.</p>
<p>The main problem is the deflationary de-leveraging that is now occurring on a MASSIVE scale in the derivatives markets.</p>
<p>This is the cause of the  banking collapse and wild gyrations it the markets and asset prices generally.</p>
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		<title>By: John Morton</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Morton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 08:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am getting a bit tired with this &quot;everything is an illuminati conspiracy&quot; line of argument Life.

Try something new, like real history for a change:

http://www.larouchepac.com/news/2007/10/29/part-two-patriot-file-unearthed.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am getting a bit tired with this &#8220;everything is an illuminati conspiracy&#8221; line of argument Life.</p>
<p>Try something new, like real history for a change:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.larouchepac.com/news/2007/10/29/part-two-patriot-file-unearthed.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.larouchepac.com/news/2007/10/29/part-two-patriot-file-unearthed.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Enufs Enuf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Enufs Enuf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 08:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Common&#039; indeed, what with &#039;Common Purpose&#039; and what that really means, we ought to see through the &#039;Orwellian doublespeak&#039; to see that &#039;common&#039; is short for communist and &#039;communist&#039; and  &#039;fascist&#039; are only separated by a cigarette paper.   

Have you ever seen a picture of the US Senate?  There are two fasci atop the 3-tiered pyramid &#039;bench&#039;, which translates in doublespeak as  &#039;bank&#039;, either side of The Speaker....&#039;in yer face&#039; or what!!

We&#039;ve been dumbed down alright, no more so than in our schools - I have personal experience through my children of the changes in just 6 years in &#039;education&#039; - one &quot;programme&quot; (that word again) I would abolish is &#039;DARE&#039;.  Anyone who really &#039;thinks&#039;, KNOWS and sees through the &#039;doublespeak&#039; that black is white and white is black in &#039;their&#039; system.

All that being said, I have good news from my  local High Street:

ALL the shops and two banks I visited yesterday &#039;know&#039; that things are being orchestrated behind the scenes - &quot;this &#039;credit crunch&#039; couldn&#039;t have just &#039;happened&#039;&quot; was their collective comment.  One assistant told me he&#039;d heard that when vat is increased again, it&#039;ll be raised to 20%.  A bank teller was telling me about a 911 video she&#039;d seen - it was pretty obvious that she &#039;knows&#039; too and I was raising &#039;the Euro&#039; agenda which is VERY unpopular - I think it&#039;s the Express that&#039;s carrying the story of our being secretly being manipulated into the Euro this morning so it&#039;s no longer a &#039;secret&#039;.  Are we just going to let that happen too??  

The Euro scam would explain the ridiculous way Mandelson was brought back.  Mandy being made a &#039;lord&#039; (&#039;BAAL&#039;) just added insult to injury imho - presumably done  to &#039;rub our noses in it&#039;.  &#039;Lordships&#039; pander to a person&#039;s ego, no doubt as well as their wallets.  The ego is the favourite tool of a certain &#039;red guy&#039; so we know, if proof were needed, which side Mandy is batting for - that&#039;s not to say that like some (a few) MP&#039;s, some &#039;lords&#039; aren&#039;t working for the common good as opposed to the &#039;self&#039;/ego/nwo fascist agenda.

When are we going to REALLY say &#039;enough&#039;s enough&#039; and stop this despotic and long-time ongoing coup??  Or are &#039;they&#039; trying to goad us into open rebellion to allow the declaration of a visible fascist police state with armed, riot garbed troops and police in our village High Streeets?

I think it&#039;s rather ironic that Venice is under attack from the sea - Maritime Admiralty Law and Poseidon return to wreak havoc and take revenge maybe?  Or maybe it&#039;s the work of the Highest Power of all with a reminder to the merchants of that city and the world of just who ultimately holds the reigns of power....

Albert Pike, that most famous of Masons eloquently summed it up in his &#039;Three World Wars&#039; letter to Giuseppi Mazzini (Joe Mason - really!).  Here&#039;s what I think is the most telling extract:

&quot;The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the &quot;agentur&quot; of the &quot;Illuminati&quot; between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…
We shall unleash the Nihilists (terrorists, apparently EE) and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. 
This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time.&quot; 4

You can read the whole thing here:
http://www.threeworldwars.com/albert-pike2.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Common&#8217; indeed, what with &#8216;Common Purpose&#8217; and what that really means, we ought to see through the &#8216;Orwellian doublespeak&#8217; to see that &#8216;common&#8217; is short for communist and &#8216;communist&#8217; and  &#8216;fascist&#8217; are only separated by a cigarette paper.   </p>
<p>Have you ever seen a picture of the US Senate?  There are two fasci atop the 3-tiered pyramid &#8216;bench&#8217;, which translates in doublespeak as  &#8216;bank&#8217;, either side of The Speaker&#8230;.&#8217;in yer face&#8217; or what!!</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve been dumbed down alright, no more so than in our schools &#8211; I have personal experience through my children of the changes in just 6 years in &#8216;education&#8217; &#8211; one &#8220;programme&#8221; (that word again) I would abolish is &#8216;DARE&#8217;.  Anyone who really &#8216;thinks&#8217;, KNOWS and sees through the &#8216;doublespeak&#8217; that black is white and white is black in &#8216;their&#8217; system.</p>
<p>All that being said, I have good news from my  local High Street:</p>
<p>ALL the shops and two banks I visited yesterday &#8216;know&#8217; that things are being orchestrated behind the scenes &#8211; &#8220;this &#8216;credit crunch&#8217; couldn&#8217;t have just &#8216;happened&#8217;&#8221; was their collective comment.  One assistant told me he&#8217;d heard that when vat is increased again, it&#8217;ll be raised to 20%.  A bank teller was telling me about a 911 video she&#8217;d seen &#8211; it was pretty obvious that she &#8216;knows&#8217; too and I was raising &#8216;the Euro&#8217; agenda which is VERY unpopular &#8211; I think it&#8217;s the Express that&#8217;s carrying the story of our being secretly being manipulated into the Euro this morning so it&#8217;s no longer a &#8217;secret&#8217;.  Are we just going to let that happen too??  </p>
<p>The Euro scam would explain the ridiculous way Mandelson was brought back.  Mandy being made a &#8216;lord&#8217; (&#8216;BAAL&#8217;) just added insult to injury imho &#8211; presumably done  to &#8216;rub our noses in it&#8217;.  &#8216;Lordships&#8217; pander to a person&#8217;s ego, no doubt as well as their wallets.  The ego is the favourite tool of a certain &#8216;red guy&#8217; so we know, if proof were needed, which side Mandy is batting for &#8211; that&#8217;s not to say that like some (a few) MP&#8217;s, some &#8216;lords&#8217; aren&#8217;t working for the common good as opposed to the &#8217;self&#8217;/ego/nwo fascist agenda.</p>
<p>When are we going to REALLY say &#8216;enough&#8217;s enough&#8217; and stop this despotic and long-time ongoing coup??  Or are &#8216;they&#8217; trying to goad us into open rebellion to allow the declaration of a visible fascist police state with armed, riot garbed troops and police in our village High Streeets?</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s rather ironic that Venice is under attack from the sea &#8211; Maritime Admiralty Law and Poseidon return to wreak havoc and take revenge maybe?  Or maybe it&#8217;s the work of the Highest Power of all with a reminder to the merchants of that city and the world of just who ultimately holds the reigns of power&#8230;.</p>
<p>Albert Pike, that most famous of Masons eloquently summed it up in his &#8216;Three World Wars&#8217; letter to Giuseppi Mazzini (Joe Mason &#8211; really!).  Here&#8217;s what I think is the most telling extract:</p>
<p>&#8220;The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the &#8220;agentur&#8221; of the &#8220;Illuminati&#8221; between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…<br />
We shall unleash the Nihilists (terrorists, apparently EE) and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view.<br />
This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time.&#8221; 4</p>
<p>You can read the whole thing here:<br />
<a href="http://www.threeworldwars.com/albert-pike2.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.threeworldwars.com/albert-pike2.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tom Collins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The populace are generally a few sandwiches short of a picnic, unfortunately.  One has to literally drawm them a detailed map before they even begin to see any light.
In addition, they have been plagued with dumbed-down television. i.e. X Factor, Strictly Come Dancing. I&#039;m a Celebrity.  Big Brother and the 2 Soaps etc.  Their minds, and those of our children are just sponges. soaking up the rubbish, that&#039;s why the newspapers print it.     It;&#039;s a Plan, of course, and it&#039;s working !.

How did the Common Market which they told us was to &quot;facilitate trade&quot; become the totalitarian Super State ?     This would never have been accepted by us if they had said this in the beginning.   It&#039;s all coming together, at a faster and faster pace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The populace are generally a few sandwiches short of a picnic, unfortunately.  One has to literally drawm them a detailed map before they even begin to see any light.<br />
In addition, they have been plagued with dumbed-down television. i.e. X Factor, Strictly Come Dancing. I&#8217;m a Celebrity.  Big Brother and the 2 Soaps etc.  Their minds, and those of our children are just sponges. soaking up the rubbish, that&#8217;s why the newspapers print it.     It;&#8217;s a Plan, of course, and it&#8217;s working !.</p>
<p>How did the Common Market which they told us was to &#8220;facilitate trade&#8221; become the totalitarian Super State ?     This would never have been accepted by us if they had said this in the beginning.   It&#8217;s all coming together, at a faster and faster pace.</p>
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		<title>By: Enufs Enuf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Enufs Enuf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 20:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pssst - Tom  - the quote:  &quot;all the world&#039;s a stage and all the men and women merely players&quot; relates to the Berlin Wall/Cold war too.  

&quot;Glasnost&quot; and Mikhail Gorbachev were all just part of the same global agenda.  Just scroogle Gorbachev and new world order/united nations......you won&#039;t be disappointed!!  Like Obama the &#039;messiah&#039; and his &#039;change&#039; (read &#039;change-agent&#039;)  - &#039;Change&#039; is the new &#039;Glasnost&#039;.....

All here are intelligent, articulate and highly principled people.   

So when will we all realise that we&#039;ve well and truly all been HAD!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pssst &#8211; Tom  &#8211; the quote:  &#8220;all the world&#8217;s a stage and all the men and women merely players&#8221; relates to the Berlin Wall/Cold war too.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Glasnost&#8221; and Mikhail Gorbachev were all just part of the same global agenda.  Just scroogle Gorbachev and new world order/united nations&#8230;&#8230;you won&#8217;t be disappointed!!  Like Obama the &#8216;messiah&#8217; and his &#8216;change&#8217; (read &#8216;change-agent&#8217;)  &#8211; &#8216;Change&#8217; is the new &#8216;Glasnost&#8217;&#8230;..</p>
<p>All here are intelligent, articulate and highly principled people.   </p>
<p>So when will we all realise that we&#8217;ve well and truly all been HAD!!!</p>
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