A few weeks ago, I interviewed Tim Alexander, the Earl of Stirling. Lord Stirling was directly involved in the Cash for Honours scandal, having submitted evidence to the Metropolitan Police investigation under John Yates. He has written a book (”Cash for Peerages: The Smoking Gun”) on the subject, which is available from Lulu Press (www.lulu.com).
Introductions
JM: I am sure you will agree that it is quite ironic for an American to be talking to a Brit about hereditary titles.
LS: [Laughs] Yes, well, as an American I don’t take the issue of hereditary honours too seriously, except in as far as this is part of my family history and traditions going back centuries, as outlined in my book. In my time working with Burke’s Peerage I became an expert on Scots Peerage Law, Baronetage Law, Baronage Law and Chiefly Law. This knowledge about the law is reflected in my complaint against Blair, Lord Falconer and now Brown and Straw.
JM: You may be aware of the work of the UK Column and our fight against Common Purpose, which we suspect of being a Masonic conspiracy at the higher levels. Care to comment?
LS: Common Purpose certainly sounds like a front group to me. When you want to know where the real power resides in a given country, and those who you ask always speak in a very quiet, hushed voice about something – that tells you who the powers really are. Your goals are certainly admirable and I support you in them, but you really do have your work cut out for you, what with police cameras everywhere (one for every seven citizens; more than in the rest of Europe combined) and the rapid drive towards a police state in Great Britain. You know I call this period we are in now “The Quickening”, and I think that sums it up quite nicely.
The “smoking gun”
JM: Given the circumstances you outline in your book, I am sure you are familiar with the original cash for honours case that led to the introduction of the law against this in the UK. Would you agree that Lord Levy appears to be the reincarnation of John Maundy-Gregory in this respect?
LS: That would have been under the Lloyd George government, correct? Yes, well I don’t have any specific evidence to support this, but Levy certainly looks like a Mossad operative to me. At the bare minimum he should be considered as a key overlord and handler for NuLabour and Tony Blair. He can only really be described is a kind of shifty snake-oil salesman who speaks with a “forked tongue”, if you know what I mean.
JM: And what about Peter Mandelson who you will note just (re)ascended the giddy heights?
LS: Well, aside from the fact that in my opinion Mr Mandelson is an order of magnitude worse than someone like Karl Rove, I would say that these people are just so utterly corrupt and smack in the middle of this whole stinking business up-to their eyebrows that after a while they begin to think they are invincible, and just develop this unbelievably arrogant attitude towards the world around them.
I see the whole cash-for-honours scandal as a form of over-reach arising from this pompous and inflated opinion that they have of themselves. When Baron Mandelson was ennobled, he had two people with him: Baroness Jay of Paddington (who is a really lovely lady), and Lord Falconer. Now I could rant about that fat b****d Falconer all day – he has done more than the rest of them put together to undermine and besmirch the integrity of British politics and constitutional processes, and to destroy as much of British heritage as possible.
If you take my case alone, the fact that we are talking about crimes including obstruction of justice means that it should be sufficient to put at least one senior cabinet minister in prison for a significant number of years, so this is a serious level of corruption that we are talking about here. I don’t like to get too bent out of shape about them really, at the end of the day they will eventually have to face their creator and all the tea-and-crumpets-with-the-pope in the world won’t help them on that day! If nothing else, just take a look at the slaughter they have caused in Iraq and other parts of the world with their policies. These things really do require an accounting if we are going to move forward from here and build a better world free from all this senseless bloodshed.
JM: The impression I got from your book was that it was somewhat rushed to print to coincide with the political events, as opposed to being a detailed account of your legal case, is that a fair statement?
LS: Yes, that is more or less what happened. I wanted to ensure that my story was part of the public record, but as political events were moving very fast it was a bit of a rush job to get the book out.
JM: Further to that, while I think that there is clear circumstantial evidence for corruption presented in your book, I was not entirely satisfied that you had proved your case to the extent required to prove criminal wrongdoing. Do you have other evidence that was not presented in the book?
LS: In the end I did leave quite a lot of things out and have been deliberately circumspect in certain areas for a variety of reasons that I prefer not to discuss at this point in time. But, as you should know from the book, I followed Scots peerage law to the tee and obviously know it extremely well, so there is absolutely no question but that the ongoing obstruction of my rightful position as a peer is against the law of the land. The Labour government even failed to follow their own legal guidelines as laid out in the Royal Warrant, establishing the Roll of the Peerage, that was issued by Lord Falconer, supposedly to clear up problems caused by their half-assed reform of the House of Lords, so you might observe that their incompetence and clownishness is almost as accomplished as their capacity for wanton corruption.
As you will no doubt be aware, these type of characters do not exactly just come right out and send you an invoice for whatever it is they want from you, but instead make subtle “suggestions” over an informal chat that perhaps all your “problems” will just go away if you can bring yourself to make a “reasonable donation”. In fact, the “problems” they refer to do not exist in the real world under the legal system they should be following, but seem to just spontaneously appear out of nowhere when their expectations are not met.
Now I am a Christian and an ethical person, and I don’t think that paying bribes to politicians is really the way a first world country should be conducting its political affairs, and that applies to the United States, the United Kingdom and anywhere else that claims to be a bastion of ethics and good governance. So you can call me stubborn if you want, and I am sure these guys have a few other things they would like to call me in addition to that [laughing] but, that’s the way I see things and I know I am right about this.
A key point is that Tony Blair’s defense of his actions, and the actions of his senior people, in the “cash for peerages” scandal was that the peerages in question were not “honours” in the traditional sense but working party positions. My case, that involved both a possible life peerage and old hereditary Scottish peerages (something clearly a matter of traditional honours even under Blair’s very liberal definition of “honours” used in his defense) clearly proved that the actions of Blair and his most senior people were corrupt. They would not follow the law unless and until they received a massive “donation”.
I do not pay bribes, and they caused me no untold amount of problems because of this. To this every day, the Labour government, now under Brown (and with the personal involvement of Jack Straw as Justice Minister and Lord Chancellor) refuse to follow Scots Peerage Law in my case. They still have not placed my name on the Roll of the Peerage in spite of the fact that the circumstances of my claim, under Scots Peerage Law and the rules outlined by the Royal Warrant establishing the Roll of the Peerage, clearly legally require them to do so. In my case, there is even written documents from Falconer’s senior people lying about the wording of a recent Act of Parliament. When I proved their written statement to be a lie, there was no apology. When I caught them quoting English Peerage Law rules instead of the different Scots Peerage Law rules in my claim to Scots Peerages and pointed this out several times there was no apology, just a continuation of same. The flow of communication from the senior law officer in the land, at that time, the then Lord Chancellor Lord Falconer, when a case was before the European Court of Human Rights, clearly established that they were committing obstruction of justice.
JM: In your opinion, why was the investigation shut down and what should we, the British public be doing about that? In particular, I am curious about the role of Detective Inspector John Yates, who is a name we have come across recently in connection with charges of treason that are being made around the country on our initiative – do you think he is corrupt or merely under enormous pressure by higher ups in the establishment.
LS: I personally talked at length with John Yates and with his senior detectives. They had, let me make this very clear, they had more than enough evidence, just from my case alone, to bring criminal charges against some of the highest office holders in the land. But the “fix was in”. The Establishment did not want a PM and senior cabinet ministers going to Her Majesty’s Prisons, so the deal reached was Blair was to resign by a certain date and no criminal charges would be brought against anyone in the Cabinet or Number 10.
JM: What is the next move for your fight over this issue and what are the prospects for success?
LS: Well the first thing to say is that under Scots Law I am the Earl of Stirling, and nothing, even the mighty New Labour, can change that. As it stands I am free to bring a very substantial lawsuit against Falconer, Blair and Straw which I am very confident would be sufficient to bankrupt all concerned.I do not like to make money off lawsuits, but this after all is a matter of principle.
To be frank, I was quite put off by the whole process – it simply was not what one would expect from the UK as a first world country. So basically I just want the British government to follow the law, including international treaties to which the UK is a signatory, not to mention their much lauded manifesto commitments to gender equality (which is a key part of my case in view of the ridiculous and obsolete law of male primogeniture).
I believe there was a bill by Lord Diamond related to this not so long ago, which I did not think was too well put together and unfortunately was subsequently defeated in House of Lords. They probably think I am a boy scout but I am damned if I am going to pay them to do things they are supposed to do anyway. I don’t pay bribes, but since they are forcing the issue by continuing not to follow the law, I will bring legal action against the personal assets of several senior Labour officials under human rights legislation; there are a number of countries in the EU and in North America that claim “universal jurisdiction” in the case of human rights violations and also allow people to go after the government officials regardless of their governmental or Crown immunity and to go after their personal assets. They themselves valued a life barony/peerage at over one million pounds, this was their going rate for “donations” for a life peerage.
As my case involves one possible life barony, one hereditary earldom, two viscounties, two Scots Lordships of Parliament, a baronetcy, a chiefship of a Scottish clan, several hereditary great offices of state in Canada and Nova Scotia, and several other titles the claim is apt to be very very high. This is NOT something that I want to have to take to court but I will not allow the crooks to win. I supplied them with hundreds of years of my ancestry in my claim by right but they don’t care about this, they just want money. The current refusal to follow Scots Peerage Law in my claim by Jack Straw and Gordon Brown ties them into the Blair Cash for Peerages scandal in a on-going way. Further, the refusal to allow a resettlement-by-letters patent to eliminate the sexist rules of male primogeniture, with regards to the succession to my titles, something which under Scots Peerage Law is my right to formally request, is a basic violation of human rights of myself, my sister, and her heirs and ties Straw and Brown into the past obstruction of justice issue that was before the European Court of Human Rights.
It is downright shameful to insist on maintaining odious sexist rules of male only succession to the Earldom of Stirling/etc. when Scots Peerage law allows the present Earl, myself, the right to have the Monarch change these rules. It is Jack Straw and Gordon Brown who are standing in the way of ending this gender based human rights violation. The fact that they do so in opposition to the strong support for gender equality that the Labour Party supposedly stand for, is sadly reflective of their duplicity on gender and human rights issues.
The British Constitution
JM: We are particularly interested in the constitutional issues involved with the “cash for honours” scandal. In particular you may have head the recent case of the 22 MPs who want to abandon their oath to the Monarch and are pushing for Constitutional reform to make Great Britain a “Republic”.
LS: One of the most beautiful things about the UK is that you have managed to keep your heritage, and this is apparent to anyone who visits the country and can feel that kind of living history all around them. It really would be a bad thing to have one more semi retired corrupt politician appointed as head of state. The UK has the benefit of being separated from the continent and did not lose its monarchy at the end of World War 1 like other European nations, and this was a good thing in my opinion. In all my dealings with the British Royal family I have found them fair and have no complaint whatsoever against them, and so I wholeheartedly believe that the country should keep it’s Monarchy as an institution regardless of all the many scandals and intrigues, and marriage problems, around the Windsor family in recent years.
Economic Crisis
JM: There has been a lot of discussion and speculation on the internet about the crisis being a kind of “economic 9/11″. Do you agree with this perspective, and if so, who primarily do you think is behind it?
LS: Hmm. Well it’s quite an interesting co-incidence to see that the Rockerfeller and Rothschild interests have so far seemed to have done quite well out of all this chaos. There was also the recent case of this interesting “car accident” in Austria of a “far right” political figure who was raising the issue of the global banking families, which really is the 3rd rail in all of this. You know I often get emails attacking me for not being anti-semitic by saying that “the Jews” are responsible for all this in the articles that I write, but I simply refuse to blame an entire race of people for what some people try to do. Nonetheless, it is rather interesting to note that Lady Rothschild is a key fundraiser for the Tory party. The Rothschilds have been at the game of backing both sides of every major conflict for hundreds of years, and while their basic methodology is always to make money and accrue more and more political power, there is a broader agenda. Panics and crashes always benefit a small group of “insiders”, and if you look at the Great Depression this was the greatest generator of debt to the bankers on record, and it seems clear enough that fractional reserve banking goes together with wars as the biggest generator of deficit spending.
JM: What do you see as the primary solutions that are required at this point in time, and do you have any specific advice to our readers on that?
LS: I don’t have any simple answers to that one. What I do see coming is truly horrific economic conditions, and a global war. And given that this is the 21st Century, we are no longer talking about regular warfare. If you take the case of Iran, which clearly has an advanced bio-war MAD capability via genetically engineered viruses we really are looking at something that approximates the horrific scenes described in the Biblical accounts of Armageddon. What is coming in the short term certainly seems to provide the casus belli for the installation of the global fascist police state that is so clearly the agenda of these evil people.
Conclusion
JM: In closing, do you have any other remarks or points that you would like to draw to the attention of our readers?
LS: Ok, well the essential point to remember is that my case could have put Blair and Falconer in prison and it has not ended yet. Jack Straw (Brown’s Justice Minister and Lord Chancellor) is still not following the law and therefore I am not going to let this matter rest. They have tried very hard to sweep this under the rug but it is not going away. I have nothing to lose at this point in my life, so we will see in the end if justice prevails.
JM: Thank-you for your time this evening and God bless.
LS: Thank-you.
This post is tagged Cash For Honours, Corruption, NuLabour
Dear All,
It seems that this discussion of John’s interview has gone way
off topic.
John and the Editor and myself have met with Mr. Larouche. I would suggest that
people that don’t understand the current crisis should listen to Mr. Larouche’s
webcast that can be found on http://www.larouchepac.com.
What needs to be kept in mind is that the oligrachy is working to destroy the
nation state and impose fascism in a form of bankers dictatorship.
It is of interest that Lord Stirling did the interview and some of his statements
are worth rereading because he has given an insiders view into the cash for honours
scandal. Lord Stirling has raised our understanding about the process in and around the New Labour Government by this interview that reading a hundred newspaper articles
Another thing a republic doesn’t have to be a representative democracy like here in the United States but could be a Monarchy that is committed to the General Welfare.
Remember that Henry VII’s England was the second true Nation State. Maybe the readers should look a little more at the history of the World.
Thanks John keep up the good work.
Gregory Murphy
21st Century Science and Technology and Executive Intelligence Review
According to Hand & Bentley, the ‘Great Charter’, granted by King John in 1215 is “the most famous document in the legal & historical development of England..for in brief it means this, that the King is and shall be below the law”
T. Plucknet states “No English institution has been studied with such ardour and with so little definite result as Parliament”. A similar view is advanced by Mr. Richardson and Dr. Sayles who state that“..since Parliament was not the creation of a legislative act…..not a conscious creation at all, we cannot give a date to its’ inception” [“Parliaments & Great Councils in Medieval England” – [1961] LQR 77, 220.]
A far stronger warning was advanced by Michael Prestwick who suggests that “the early history of Parliament has proved to be almost as dangerous a battleground for historians as the field of Bannockburn was for Edward II”
[The Three Edwards, War & State in England, 1272 – 1377 – Michael Prestwick, P 115]
There is little doubt that by the last quarter of the 14th century Parliament had become a bicameral body. Roskell tells us that “in 1376 the capable summing up by one Knight, Sir Peter de la Mare, served to consolidate opinion for a reply to the Lords. The choice of de la Mere to speak for the Commons before the Lords in 1376 formalised an office, which thenceforward had a continuous history. The speaker needed the capacity to present accurately and diplomatically the common’s replies and to maintain their position under pressure”.
Despite the uncertainties of past historians it is submitted that Parliaments’ evolution can be ascribed to a number of diverse factors. Firstly, the feudal land holding system introduced a baronial class, which collectively, enjoyed equal authority to the King. Secondly, the King’s need to raise additional taxation to fund his military campaigns on the continent resulted in the concessions made to the barons in the Great Charter and the Provisions of Oxford. Once the idea of government by consultation had been sown it quickly germinated and within one hundred years had been recognised as a regularly convening institution by the King. Thirdly, the influences of social and economic pressure also influence Parliament’s development.
We can conclude by stating that the Lords originally used their collective influence to control the excesses of autocratic Kings. In the 21st century the powers of Cabinet Government have long eclipsed those of the Monarch. Should we not regret the ousting of the Hereditary peers, who historically are as entitled to Govern England, as are those who conspired to achieve their abolition?
Of more importance to those studying British Constitutional history is the answer to the following question – Can the elected House of Commons and reformed House of Lords permanently surrender law making powers to the European Union and make our British Sovereign subservient to a President of Europe in the absence of a mandate from their electorate?
Hi All.
John.
I would place you in the very same position sir. You are placing you trust in yet another face of the same force.
You show proof FDR was not Illuminati and you have my interest.
Of course the new face will be labelled enemy number one, or it would not work…
Was not the reformation labelled enemy number one?, but it is still an army of souls operating for the Imperial Roman bloodlines viz a ve the House of Windsor, the Dutch, Swedish, Danish, et el. Like I said everyone wants a leader to hide behind, this in turn places you directly at the mercy of those put forward.
BE A LEADER AND NOT A FOLLOWER
They use good men to create a new movement then remove those men, I suggst you study the takeover of Africa to understand this knowledge.
Like all new movements they are 75% truth with the 25% remaining the only requirement for absolute control by the Nefilim.
You are exposing the third dimensional game …I am exposing the deception of the Gods…
Life
Suggest you read and study the following site/references and make up your own mind about LaRouche and his organization:
http://schillerinstitute.org/exon/exon_toc.html
John I will but I still require you to put forward your absolute proof that FDR was not Illuminati.
You need to fully explain why he would place the Illuminati pyramid with capstone missing on the dollar bill if he was not a puppet of the Illuminati….
Life, Can I ask that you take this subject offline – you know the email address – and we can get this discussion back on topic. Thanks.
I don’t want to take John Morton to task, BUT, The Queen bestows honours at the behest the government. She really has no day-to-day power. She has the constitutional right NOT to sign treaties etc. but if she were to refuse to sign the latest Lisbon Treaty, then that would rock the throne. So, whilst she is theoretically the Head of State, the real power lies with Daisy Brown and his band of incompetents, sadly.
I mean, even The Queen is alleged to have said recently, “Didn’t anyone see this happening?
John says we must look to America to help us out of our mess. Sorry, John, we tend to take on all the bad traits from America and they really have no interest is us. The bankers want money, although they appreciate our debts ‘cos they can charge interest (£30 Billion annually ? ) Where is the EU in our hour of distress. Just where they all were at the outbreak of the last world war. Cowering and frightened !. No, we cannot rely on anyone unfortunately, perhaps the Commonwealth , but look what we did to them when we entered the dreaded EU. Cast them off like an old sock.. We really don’t deserve any sympathy, or help, but I just hope that SOMEONE shows us some pity before This Lot drown us so deeply in debt that we never surface again.
Welsh messanger
may I offer my humblest apologies to you. I suppose if I had read the whole of your post I would have seen you are well aware of the provisions of Oxford.
Again I apologise
Editor I have lost your email, could you please send me a line
Life,
No probs. If I might be so bold as to suggest that your great enthusiasm sometimes gets the better of you. Whilst speed reading has many benefits to those of us that employ the technique it does sometimes trip us up. It has also caught me out in the past!!
Whilst it is relatively easy for regular contributors to continue conversations across various subject heading we should bear in mind that it has the potential to confuse our newer readers.
For this reason I believe that our editor if perfectly correct when requesting that we keep ‘on topic’.
I look forward to our future debates.
Welsh_messenger
Point taken…Thanks
Does anyone remember that first Brian Gerrish video on Common Purpose in that village hall somewhere in Plymouth? There were some chaps in the audience who were fierce opponents of the EU who said they did some obscure legal process, I think it was in the form of some sort of petition to the Queen about leaving the EU. It was difficult to catch all of what was said since the sound was a bit poor, but the gist of it was they said they very nearly succeeded.
It seems that the Queen may well personally loath the EU and what it is doing to the country, but she is not able to actually say so. It seems the royal family are not happy with Nu Labour and they are currently getting starved of public funds to keep places like Buckingham Palace and all the other properties in a proper start of repair. It may well be that a growing number of people close to the Queen share this frustration and are getting increasingly political about it. At least I hope so, and if that is the case then the best thing to do is pull resources together and fight it in any way that is possible.
The political landscape in this country is changing and I really do think that we are gaining ground all the time on these matters. Eventually this has to be reflected in people’s voting intentions. However if people vote Nu Labour into a forth term then they can kiss goodbye to Great Britain.
I agree!!
New labour were put in power to merge the uk into the eu superstate, the queen has to do as she is told by the banksters who control the monetry system.
Did you all know the liberal democrats were actually working with labour to get the lisbon treaty through parliament how liberal does that sound, they are traitors!!
everyone get out there and ensure labour does not get this 4th term!! we might get cameron but he will stall things and give us time to rise up
Hi Nick.
Fist the Queen is a major benefactor of the banking cartel.
Second, The labour leadership are Presbeterian Whiggamores ‘WHIGS’,
Third, the Liberal party are all ‘WHIGS’..
The Whigs are those who supported Cromwell and his Zionist bankers from Holland.
Hi Life
so what about the tory party, who really is running the world, Im still amazed obama won because I though mccain would be better at bringing the new world order.
OBAMA is the key to wage the war against China in Africa:
China and the Congo Wars: AFRICOM. America’s New Military Command – by F. William Engdahl – 2008-11-26
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=11173
There is NO Difference between the three main Political parties..stop trying to kid yourselves that there is. They are all puppets to the NWO brigade and have been so for sometime. The next Government will be worse than this one, no matter which party wins.
The party system is a Joke and a Con designed to fool people into thinking they live in a democracy. Nothing could be further from the truth.
I think you may be right, I was a conservative because I believed in the principles but since we have had cameron as a leader the conservative party is destroyed.
I think Brian Gerrish is right on the money when he suggested that cameron was a EU plant to destroy the conservative party, I mean look at them they are unelectable!!.
Brown is a joke but between the 3 marxist and fabian parties whats the difference.
Nick,
Parliament is a for-profit corporation, listed on Dunn & Bradstreet. As such, its employees, “politicians,” are there to make sure they maximise profits by making sure you happily go along with the regime and keep paying your taxes. None of the parties has any other role than support the charade.
Its interesting that when the Bank of England was nationalised in 1946, the shareholders were not paid in cash for their stock – they were given “Government Stock” as a swap. The UK Government is just another corporation with issued shares that it can sell to raise money.
Hi All
Hi Nick
With the Tories we are dealing directly with the Inner city establishment. Cameron of course is high level society. Thatcher as a Methodist preacher’s daughter was prime for control which was undertaken by Lord Peter Carrington, he was her handler. Carrington and Kissinger are partners in crime both control Kissinger Associates, responsible for the genocide in Rwanda, and the architects of the Balken’s conflict.
With labour, they had to take it over, this was accomplished through the Fabien society during the 1970’s, by creating such insane union responses to the elite, they had to be destroyed and as such most labour members knew thay had to exept changes…enter Blair and Brown.
The controllers of this world comes from within the serpent cult, the cult St George defeated and sent them underground, literaly. Of course my knowledge of the occult would suggest the ‘UNDERWORLD is in fact the abyss, the space between the dimension, hence the satanic rituals, which call out the entities from the abyss who then give the elite instruction of what to do in relation to creating ‘Their Kingdom’ on the face of the world, middle earth in the Lord of the rings. It all goes back to the fallen angels who via breeding with the earth women set fourth the nefilim, a fifty fifty mix of the fallen angels DNA and that of the human. This thus created the bloodlines which the ‘demon’s,’ according to Christainity, can access much more easily. To take the Theosophical society doctrine, continued by Hitler and the Nazi’s, the real controllers of the world exist in the underground worlds seated under Tibet and some claim at the poles. The poles are a no fly zone which suggstes more to the story. Napoleon was also looking for the underground masters.
Personally i go with other dimensional beings because this is what i experienced as they plugged me in late 1990’s, it is a possession by entities not in physical form.
So the Nefilim are the facilitators for the entities Christianity calls the demon, the fallen angels, the Atlantean knowledge calls them the , ‘Children of the Shadows’, they demand blood sacrifice , A . and B. to open a portal between the dimensions.
Not being third dimensional beings, they feed electromagnetic energy, also sexual energy which is a powerful burst of energy on which they feed hence peadophilia, because this creates a much larger energy burst from the victim, fear… and the perpetraitor sexual lust, so such evil is the means to the creation of food for the entity, thus all who perpetrait such evil are themselves the victim of these entities, and used as a food source. stiff neck and shoulders are a classic sign feeding is going on from your electromagnetic system while asleep.
So on that basis the NWO is controlled from outside this dimension by the creatures from the abyss, and slowly but surely by use of the nefilim and all who would call out such entities via blood ritual, have interceded in this world between man and the entities we know as the angels of god. So it is the abyss taking over this dimension and breaking man’s connection with the fourth dimension or heaven. HAARP and the Hedron collider play into this also, and would seem to be the weapons they had pre-deluge, thus creating the deluge.
Now many may feel this is off the wall, but this is exactly what the Bible is speaking of, and my experience of what happened to me while under the game of the Masonic orders. Since I broke away I am very happy to work with those who stand high above the abyss, the saints, the entities we know to be those of the chap with the beard…
The nefilim are those who became the Hyksos Phaorohs, the Roman emporers, the Chinese emporers, the Hindu kings and the monarchy of Europe. The Sufi masters and the tibetan masters..
This is my experience…
Editor
I have been told that the Rothschilds own the Bank of England do you know if this is true?
Also what do you see emeriging from this financial chaos and does it disrupt the eu plans for Lisbon to come into effect after Irelands rejection.
http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Rothschild.htm
This gave the Rothschild family complete control of the British economy, now the financial centre of the world following Napolean’s defeat, and forced England to set up a new Bank of England, which Nathan Mayer Rothschild controlled.
PS I am not sure they will kill Obama unless that is reason for shutdown under martial law, Obama is the means to calming the American people while they shaft the US economicaly. But we shall have to wait and see.
All
I repeat my earlier assertion that the only way out of this pit of hell we mistakenly call a nation, is for the sleeping giant, America to wake up and crush the schemes of the European oligarchy under foot, as they did in WW2.
We are powerless in the face of such opposition here and we need outside help.
Nick: Not yet. I’m working on it. So far all I can say for sure is that when the Bank was “nationalised” in 1946, a stock swap took place. There was a clause in the legislation which allowed the Treasury to compulsorily purchase the Government Stock any time after 1966. So far, 29% has been reclaimed in this way.
I do not, as yet, know if there is anything special about this particular Government Stock – i.e. was it a special share issue or just some already issued shares they had lying around. I have an FOI request in to find out.
I think there is no way to easily find out who the present holders of Government Stock are, because that comes under the heading “Data Protection” in the event they are individuals.
I have a FOI request in with the Bank at the moment to find out who were the Bank shareholders on the day of “nationalisation.” Most of them are probably dead by now, so they do not come under the data protection get-out clause.
They have a few more days to respond. Keep you posted.
Life:
I believe that is exactly what they will do. The “patsy” will be white, Christian, and fundamentalist. Look at all the media coverage of this possible assassination – its pushing the race card like mad. Add in this and this, and I think we have the attempt to foment a major race war on the way.
Nick, to answer your other question, according to La Tribune, the EU will announce on Wednesday a suspension of Maastricht for 2009 and 2010, because they know no nation can meet the fiscal requirements in the present crisis.
You gotta laugh, don’t you?
Life – My ongoing research confirms most of what you say regarding ‘other dimensional entities’ aka demons/jinn to the Muslims/Gede/Lwa to Voodoo etc…which tie in to names of certain “saints” and “gods of mythology”…..
Bottom line – the entire human race has been ‘used’ so that a relatively small group of ‘people’ can keep the status quo and hence, control over we the sheople/Goyim as they call us in the material ‘realm’….their ongoing agenda is to keep us in FEAR which is an extremely ‘low vibration’ as opposed to someone living in True Peace in the heart and in praise of God Almighty, The Creator of Heaven and Earth and everything else in between, and in service to each other instead of serving the ego in pure ‘materialism’ which is what ’satanism’ is….. Unless you have a very good priest/vicar etc YOU WON’T FIND GOD IN ANY BUILDING – you will find God in the True Holy Land which is in your heart.
People who live in Truth, Freedom, Peace, Love and with empathy and compassion live in ‘higher vibrational energy’ and this is the only way to destroy the ongoing demonic/satanic generational assault upon humanity – ie when enough people know The Truth and live with peace and knowledge of The True Creator/Jesus Christ in their heart – the satanic vibration will wither and eventually die.
The following mp3 is a good start if you wish to understand ‘them’ and their ongoing financial coup against humanity:
Jeff & Tim 11/25/2008 Report:With Jeff Rense & From London Tim Rifat…Geopolitical Financial Analysis http://mindovermatter.ru and expose of the Rothschild Talmudic/satanists.
http://www.twowitnesses.us/jeff_and_tim_11_25.MP3
We are not just in a ‘material’ battle. What most people can’t accept and won’t even consider is that our battle is mainly a spiritual one:
Ephesians 6:12 (KJV)
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Hi All.
Then Obama is under some serious mind control to be going along with this, poor fella.
It would serve the Martial Law plan, but from my contacts from within America, the Militia’s are gathering at an alarming pace, and many police are showinhg signs of siding with their own…Makes you wanna go join them… There are a lot of Vietnam vets over there ready to fight, my heart goes out to all American’s, I think it may well be time to from Militia’s here, unfortunately all those I know are under the control of the masonic order…
If the US dies we can say goodbye to Blighty, unless we can get hold of some pretty powerful pea shooters!!
Enufs Enuf
Bless you my sweet….
Nick Webb
^The Rothschilds who are the bloodline from Attila the Hun and the Roman bloodlines are the thirteenth tribe. They are the chief administrators for the Nefilim bloodlines.
The current head of the Nefilim hierarchy is Prince Philip, he is the head of the ‘GENS’.
The link between the Underworls masters is Pindar (Penis of the dragon), who seeds the leading figures, Prince Charles and indeed William are said to be his seed, and from what I know of the anti-Christ, the genetics of the head of the hierarchy will be represented in it, that suggsts Prince pnilip is also the seed of Pindar.
Pindar has been identified as the marquiss de Libeaux, (of the waters), very Nimrod connatations, Nimrod of course was the first King of babylon with his wife Semiramis and their virgin born son Tammuz… re asserted in Egypt as Osiris, Isis and Horus, I dare not repeat the next metomorphasis of this trinity…
Hi All.
This is the link to the Google removed video citing FDR in the Pearl harbour false flag :
http://canadawantsthetruth911videos.blogspot.com/2006/05/perspective-on-911.html
The info is at the start of the video so not a long drawn out study….
It has been said that you should “Follow The Money”.
So, where does that lead you ? It can only be to the Rothschilds, , the Rockefellers and their cohorts.
I believe that we should stick to “following the money”. This may be difficult, but why do governments bail out banks by the BILLION , and yet they let WOOLLIES go under for some £350 million ? The same applies to MFI .
Experts will say that these retailers, and their like, have had their day. That they’re dinosaurs to consumers etc. If businesses like these 2 can be shut down overnight, then the same could apply to governments !! Who is going to shut this government down and how ? Don’t forget, it was the BANKS who pulled the plug on Woollies and MFI! Dog eat dog !
What I cant get my head round is where is gord getting the money to bail the banks from if there is a source why dont the banks get the money from there ,?
Tom Collins
The Rockefeller’s are the Inner City branch managers in the US, The Oppenhiemer’s
are the branch managers for South Africa, the Rothschilds are the administrators for
the Inner City, the IMF-World bank are the front for the Inner City which is part of a trinity
the trinity is the Swiss Bank of International Settlements, the Inner City and the Dutch banking system.
John.e
All this bailout money comes from the IMF-World Bank.
So who controls the IMF-World Bank?
The European banking families…..which includes the House of Windsor, but given
they are the public face of Royalty, their affiliation is a secret one.
Tom Collins.
What is happening is the elite control the big supermarket conglomorates such as Walmart and Tesco (SET & CO). They are slowley but surely removing all compettittion so the ony outlets we purchase from are these stores. This enables the elite to poison the food chain with additives etc, as these stores are the only means of food purchase, and they are not going to complain about the food additives. I do not know if you have noticed but the supermarket own brands have the most adverse chemicals in them, and also they are the cheaspest, thus a direct attack on those who are budgeting. As I have pointed out many times in the past, it matters not whether yiou are a Freemason, a Knight of whichevewr order, you are all eating this stuff, it is in the asnimals we eat, it is in the water….Tell me on that basis, do any of you out there believe for a seond you are in?
The Masonic mantra when asked to join is, “we will look after you for the rest of your life”, of course they do not tell you that in joihning you are open to their decision as to when your life will end. The Freemasons are the scapegoats, as were their predeccesors the Templars. You will note on the Templar gown the colours are reversed, ie, reed cross on white background, this denotes blood sacrifice. Look at what happened in 1307, and again during the rise of the Nazi, Freemasons were sent to the camps, of course only the low lwvel Mason’s, which is around 95% of you all. This very same event is happening again… Get out of these orders and just be who you are so we can all come together and defeat this madness.
The divisions set fourth on this earth are the direct result of the event known to history as the Tower of Babel, an event performed by the interceding fallen angels on their return after the deluge. All divisions thus created in man stem from this event, all knights orders and indeed religions, are the consequence of this event. To remain within these divisions is to play the game of the interceding gods. The law of one held sway on this earth before the Anunnaki instilled the bloods rites in Africa, then onto Lemuria, and finaly Atlantis, yet it is they who are claiming to be the saviour race to man, it is yet more bunkum.
The House of Windsor control’s the global food cartel via these companies :
http://www.larouchepub.com/other/1995/2249_cartel_companies.html
For an in depth study of these companies go to my site and click the latest news page, and scroll down to the Duke of death report.
The House of Windsor controls the Anglo Dutch Swiss banking cartel.
In my early written work I pointed out the fact that what i had learnt in the mystery school was the House of Windsor were to sacrifice themselves so to speak (not literally), so the same force can move in as saviours as a new mask on the same face so to speak. I still hold to this view. So in respect of such a play all this exposure in relation to the House of Windsor is part of the plan. Now theres a head vice for you to consider….
Ye gods! I’ve never come across such a crowd of nutters in one place before! Please just keep on fantasising, never speak out loud, or you will place an intolerable burden on the NHS mental health service.
Ta ta – for keeps! I’m going back to the sanity of LaLa Land.
Fred Sanity should perhaps, check-up on the statements, or some of the statements, made by his so-called “nutters” before labelling everyone
After all, if SOME of their allegations are true, then it makes the remainder very interesting. If he can’t find any truth at all then, he may be right, but only time will tell.
I like tothink that I give everyone a shot , but perhaps I’ve been too indulgent !
Mike I have posted but I fear the amount of links within it has put me down as a spammer.
I would very much apreciate it if you could post it for me as my farewell to all those who post on the UKColumn
Thanks
Life…
I will present it in a few posts:
The UK Column, John Morton, Stirling and LaRouche.
John Morton interviews Stirling:
http://www.ukcolumn.org/2008/11/20/cash-for-honours/
A few weeks ago, I interviewed Tim Alexander, the Earl of Stirling. Lord Stirling was directly involved in the Cash for Honours scandal, having submitted evidence to the Metropolitan Police investigation under John Yates. He has written a book (”Cash for Peerages: The Smoking Gun”) on the subject, which is available from Lulu Press (www.lulu.com).
continued :
Considering Yates obvious disinterest in investigating…
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-469895/Cash-honours-scandal-leaves-enduring-stain-political-culture.html
‘During the course of this investigation it became necessary to consider whether there had been a conspiracy to pervert the course of justice’, he said. ‘The investigation would have been concluded much earlier if this had not arisen…’
…perhaps Stirling would have done better to give his evidence to someone else.
I don’t know any person exposing the truth to be published by http://www.lulu.com, or doesn’t have books available on, say, Amazon. I haven’t yet paid for an ebook which exposes the truth (0.73p, an odd amount; maybe this has something to do with economics.) They want to expose what they have uncovered. Many do it for nothing.
Since Stirling’s blogspot is called ‘europebusines’ I take it business is more his interest.
continued :
I also find http://www.lulu.com a rather odd website. Particularly ‘my lulu’, log in required to enter. No-one has reviewed this book on lulu.com, and no-one gets to see inside the front cover. The back cover looks odd as well. http://www.lulu.com/content/953682
continued :
What’s more, OpEdNews, where Stirling writes his own book review, links to ‘International Humanities Centre, links to http://www.guidestar.org
With respect to the interview John Morton conducts with Stirling,
At the bare minimum he should be considered as a key overlord and handler for NuLabour and Tony Blair. He can only really be described is a kind of shifty snake-oil salesman who speaks with a “forked tongue”, if you know what I mean.
if John Morton does understand ‘who speaks with a “forked tongue”’ perhaps he should explain.
Also, considering LaRouche refers to the Union Jack as the ‘Union Jerk’ I am not at all sure why a supporter of his is involved with the UK Column.
On the LaRouche website, John Morton states ‘editor of our newspaper, Brian Garish’ …I do wonder what this misspelled name ‘Garish’ means?
Life,
JM “states” nothing of the kind. This is a simple typo. Not everything is a Masonic conspiracy, you know.
Mike.
Life
This was a typo by the person why transcribed the Q&A session from the webcast where I submitted this question to Mr LaRouche, but again, by all means accuse me of heresy if that helps make sense of the confusing world you live in.
continued :
http://www.larouchepub.com/eiw/public/2008/2008_30-39/2008-31/pdf/13-31_3530.pdf
A Plea for British National Sovereignty
Freeman: . . .This question is submitted by—I’m asking it
because it’s from England. He says: “Mr. LaRouche, my name
is John Morton, and I’m a writer for a newspaper called the
U.K. Column, which is based out of Plymouth, in England.
I’ve been following your forecasts and warnings for some
years now, and I’ve taken a keen interest in your analysis of
the situation, both in the U.S. and Europe, particularly in respect
to the economic and political effects of globalization.
“You may or may not be aware of it, but here in the U.K.,
a gentleman by the name of Mr. John Harris has taken it upon
himself to submit sworn affidavits to Queen Elizabeth, under
Article 61 of the Magna Carta 1215, for redress of grievances.
The specific charge is that Her Majesty the Queen dismiss all
traitors in the Parliament who are currently engaged in handing
our sovereignty over to a foreign power, namely the European
Union. As of Sunday [July 20], a video has been posted,
and it reports a conversation between the editor of our newspaper,
Mr. Brian Garish, and a certain Mrs. Sonia Bonici, who
is a corresponding agent at Buckingham Palace.
With respect to ‘our newspaper’, who is the ‘our’ to whom he refers??
And what a poor choice of interviewee.
As far as I am concerned the UK Column is being infiltrated and thus subverted by the ‘very’ masonic Lyndon LaRouche and EIR. I would place John Morton as the facilitator to this subversion. I base this on emails exchanged in private which shows me all I need to see.
I therefore end my time on the Uk Column yet offer my respects to Mike and many of the posters on here; I salute you and wish you luck on your journey…
Many thanks Life…
Life
I recommend that you prove these baseless accusations as your comments here are really beginning to seem quite ludicrous.
Life,
I am disappointed you have decided to write such tripe.
We are all on a journey to discover the truth, and while we are doing that, we offer everyone that comes across the stuff we write the opportunity to challenge their own view of the world, and hopefully contribute something.
In the process, discussions can get quite heated. Our own view of the world can, from time to time, be challenged in uncomfortable ways. If we are unwilling or unable to accept that challenge, without resorting to unfounded personal attack, then we’re stuffed.
Mike.
Blair. Thought that dude was in the Middle East – with a hard hat on? – sorting out the World. What a guy.
Only part time. He was on Jon Stewart’s Daily Show the other day discussing his professorship at Yale university where he’s running a course on religion, as part of the work he is doing with his “Faith Foundation.”
I am very sorry that “Life” has decided to leave our discussions. He did have some interesting things to say and loads of suggestions to delve into.
The trouble is, one must hold one’s emotions in check, if possible, when writing, otherwise you fall i nto the trap of being called a “nutter” or “abuser” or worse !!
If people are wrong you have to prove it, not hurl insults at them ! I tend to go “over the top” sometimes but this is only to stir up the apathetic plebs and try to obtain a response, of some kind.
Just keep the ball rolling, something will turn up !
Tom
I agree that it is disappointing that people chose to come here, contribute a great deal, and then throw a fit and all their toys out of their pram, make rediculous and baseless accusations about people and then run away and hide.
This is all too typical of the movement we are all a part of, and it has to stop, in favour of a more mature and measured kind of debate/discussion, if we are to stay unified and succeed in the battles that we wish to fight.
The stakes are simply too high for our egos to get in the way of honest and sensible enquiry into the hidden truth that we all seek.
I believe that we ALL have something to offer in the way of information, advice , suggestions and experience. We shouldn’t waste our efforts on in-fighting or slagging others off. If we disagree with someone, we should tell them. firmly or forthrightly. After all, we all have the right to disagree, or to be disagreeable, at times !
We get to “The Truth” by enlightenment !
Never forget, there’s always someone out there who knows a little more than you !
very sad LIFE not posting here anymore maybe the begining of the end for this site.
Sorry you feel that way. I can assure you, though, that it will not be the beginning of the end of anything.
This version of the site went live in September, and we have trebled the number of regular visitors in that time. We are working hard on the next incarnation of this website now, and I hope to have it ready by the end of the year.
The next issue of the paper is nearly ready – expected out by the middle of the month.
We are working hard on the conference in January, and the website for that event will have details appearing on it over the weekend. Make sure you are there!
“Can you tell me where my country lies
said the unifaun to his true love’s eyes”;
“It lies with me cried the Queen of Maybe
- For her merchandise, he traded in his prize
“Paper late !”, cried a voice in the crowd;
Mmm-mm-mm, “Old man dies, The note he left was signed
“Old Father Thames” – it seems he’s drowned
Selling England by the Pound
Citizens of Hope & Glory
Time goes by – it’s “the time of your life”
Easy now, sit you down
Chewing through your Wimpy dreams
They eat without a sound
Digesting England by the pound
Young man says “you are what you eat” – eat well
Old man says “you are what you wear” – wear well
You know what you are, you don’t give a damn
Bursting your belt that is your homemade sham
The Captain leads his dance right on through the night
- Join the dance …
Follow on ! Till the Grail sun sets in the mould
Follow on ! Till the gold is cold
Dancing out with the moonlit knight
Knights of the Green Shield stamp and shout
There’s a fat old lady outside the saloon
Laying out the credit cards she plays Fortune
The deck is uneven right from the start
And all of their hands are playing a part
The Captain leads his dance right on through the night
- Join the dance …
Follow on ! A Round Table-talking down we go
You’re the show !
Off we go with: You play the hobbyhorse
I’ll play the fool
We’ll tease the bull
Ringing round & loud, loud & round
Follow on ! With a twist of the world we go
Follow on ! Till the gold is cold
Dancing out with the moonlit knight
Knights of the Green Shield stamp and shout
Posted as I feel it says all that needs to be said about the sorry state of England these days.
Funny thing is John, that is a Peter Gabriel lyric from 1973 era Genesis (’Selling England by the Pound)
But come June 2007, this is the sort of rubbish Peter Gabriel was coming out with:
‘The Elders: global Elders for a Global Village
As our world rapidly evolves to one global village, there is a need for a group of well respected leaders who will use their wisdom, leadership and moral courage to help make our planet a more peaceful, healthy and equitable place to live. Peter Gabriel is donating all the revenues from this cover mount to support the development of this idea.’
(The cover mount in question was a grotty giveaway Peter Gabriel ‘Greatest Hits’ CD that came with the Mail on Sunday – I say grotty, because the main hits on the CD were merely live versions)
Being a great admirer of early Genesis, I have always found these guys post split to be a disillusioning lot, all told. As far as I can gather, Phil Collins is the only one who still more or less subscribes to the ‘Selling England’ philosophy – I don’t mean musically, obviously.