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		<title>By: Ben Arnold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Arnold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 07:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I trained in NLP in 2004 but don&#039;t use it much these days. I find Chris and the NLP Camp followers delightful and don&#039;t consider Chris to in anyway be gullty of the accusations made against him in relation to Mandelson and his alledged dodgy websites</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I trained in NLP in 2004 but don&#8217;t use it much these days. I find Chris and the NLP Camp followers delightful and don&#8217;t consider Chris to in anyway be gullty of the accusations made against him in relation to Mandelson and his alledged dodgy websites</p>
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		<title>By: John PLum</title>
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		<dc:creator>John PLum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Morton, your reply is succinct: Positive thinking&#039; as technique is devoid of any critical intelligence, lends itself to mind control.  

James, I can see you r well-meaning efforts in the area; I guess you are young, relatively, and &#039;mean to do well&#039;. But older and wiser people know and trust in the native  god-given intelligence that we have to get us through things, and also encourage use of true intelligence, without fancy techniques; patience , courage, and other qualities. Technique lacks all spiritual qualities; it is mind control, or bending, nothing else.

Your description of the historical foundations of NLP are fair as far as they go, but too simple: nothing is born out of itself - NLPs roots go farther back, and the studies you cite as its exemplar for skill that is effective, were most likely those taken up on suggestion to be put forward in popular journals, whilst promoting the research at public expense.  It also signals a change in culture;  (Alternatively funds, might have been spent on creating rest homes for shattered people, or ashrams for meditators etc, because they too have significant effective results). Many more informal and formal studies exist alongside and preceded NLP, for completely different purposes. It&#039;s fair to say that it draws upon the experience of mind control programmes from the intelligence communities, and suits inner governments, Political Correctness,  and media control of the public.
NLP is a very general term now. I have to say, also , that  people who seek such careers, are apt to be control freaks, to understand others by the power of their superior minds&#039; , or to enable businesses, cannot be relied upon to give a justifiable answer to the worth of their work.  That&#039;s because &#039;they are trying to make the world a better place&#039;, an enormous piece of learnt conceit, adopted by the young, foolish impressionable folk; people who are apt to be manipulated themselves, and demonstrate limits to rationale, critical thought , and thereby, experience.  Instead it satisfies and dwarfs intellectual curiosity, by providing itself as a complete programme, the answer to the riddle of life,  a professional technique. 
This is all instead of other pursuits , for example, producing nice local fresh garden produce, which may be more needed. BUt you still get your hands dirty.  On the whole , it is an intervention, and unnecessary especially in a spiritually informed world, or a world of free trade and healthy competition. It&#039;s an intervention that ignores and tries to bypass natural processes, and native intelligence.  A chat and a cup of tea might just do the trick instead. As for your part in things, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Morton, your reply is succinct: Positive thinking&#8217; as technique is devoid of any critical intelligence, lends itself to mind control.  </p>
<p>James, I can see you r well-meaning efforts in the area; I guess you are young, relatively, and &#8216;mean to do well&#8217;. But older and wiser people know and trust in the native  god-given intelligence that we have to get us through things, and also encourage use of true intelligence, without fancy techniques; patience , courage, and other qualities. Technique lacks all spiritual qualities; it is mind control, or bending, nothing else.</p>
<p>Your description of the historical foundations of NLP are fair as far as they go, but too simple: nothing is born out of itself &#8211; NLPs roots go farther back, and the studies you cite as its exemplar for skill that is effective, were most likely those taken up on suggestion to be put forward in popular journals, whilst promoting the research at public expense.  It also signals a change in culture;  (Alternatively funds, might have been spent on creating rest homes for shattered people, or ashrams for meditators etc, because they too have significant effective results). Many more informal and formal studies exist alongside and preceded NLP, for completely different purposes. It&#8217;s fair to say that it draws upon the experience of mind control programmes from the intelligence communities, and suits inner governments, Political Correctness,  and media control of the public.<br />
NLP is a very general term now. I have to say, also , that  people who seek such careers, are apt to be control freaks, to understand others by the power of their superior minds&#8217; , or to enable businesses, cannot be relied upon to give a justifiable answer to the worth of their work.  That&#8217;s because &#8216;they are trying to make the world a better place&#8217;, an enormous piece of learnt conceit, adopted by the young, foolish impressionable folk; people who are apt to be manipulated themselves, and demonstrate limits to rationale, critical thought , and thereby, experience.  Instead it satisfies and dwarfs intellectual curiosity, by providing itself as a complete programme, the answer to the riddle of life,  a professional technique.<br />
This is all instead of other pursuits , for example, producing nice local fresh garden produce, which may be more needed. BUt you still get your hands dirty.  On the whole , it is an intervention, and unnecessary especially in a spiritually informed world, or a world of free trade and healthy competition. It&#8217;s an intervention that ignores and tries to bypass natural processes, and native intelligence.  A chat and a cup of tea might just do the trick instead. As for your part in things, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.</p>
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		<title>By: Sara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 09:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A number of people are now exploring this connection and no amount of legal threats will abait forthcoming revelations</description>
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		<title>By: Adrian Malcaway</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrian Malcaway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 09:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are runmblings about this Chris Morris / Mandelson relationship and it seems that Morris is once again very worried about what may be unearthed by a bit of careful digging. His own NLP Connections site has recently had a number of peope ask about the Mandelson issue and all such references have now been removed by te camp followers. Word has it that Private Eye will be publishing in forthcoming months elements that will be of interest to ll those that detest spin and mamipulation</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are runmblings about this Chris Morris / Mandelson relationship and it seems that Morris is once again very worried about what may be unearthed by a bit of careful digging. His own NLP Connections site has recently had a number of peope ask about the Mandelson issue and all such references have now been removed by te camp followers. Word has it that Private Eye will be publishing in forthcoming months elements that will be of interest to ll those that detest spin and mamipulation</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Roe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Roe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 05:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Mandelson has some influence but its very unlikely hes using NLP

It turns out NLP is in a top ten of most discredited interventions:

http://knol.google.com/k/joe-greenfield/neurolinguistic-programming/2j6nlcky7q5vo/2#

Any activism or influence he has is nothing to do with neuro anything.  Its just politicking

Andy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Mandelson has some influence but its very unlikely hes using NLP</p>
<p>It turns out NLP is in a top ten of most discredited interventions:</p>
<p><a href="http://knol.google.com/k/joe-greenfield/neurolinguistic-programming/2j6nlcky7q5vo/2#" rel="nofollow">http://knol.google.com/k/joe-greenfield/neurolinguistic-programming/2j6nlcky7q5vo/2#</a></p>
<p>Any activism or influence he has is nothing to do with neuro anything.  Its just politicking</p>
<p>Andy</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 16:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found this site on a google search while researching for an article on Mandelson. There seem to be a lotof unanswered questions relating to the original posters question. Mr Morris is identified as a former activist here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Morris_(activist) and instrumental in lowering the age for gay consent and the redirected Mandelson site to the NLP social networking group appears to have a big quota of pro gay activists. I too would like to know what connection Mandelson has with this activist group</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this site on a google search while researching for an article on Mandelson. There seem to be a lotof unanswered questions relating to the original posters question. Mr Morris is identified as a former activist here <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Morris_(activist)" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Morris_(activist)</a> and instrumental in lowering the age for gay consent and the redirected Mandelson site to the NLP social networking group appears to have a big quota of pro gay activists. I too would like to know what connection Mandelson has with this activist group</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Grossbard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Grossbard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 08:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My name is Mike Grossbard as far as i know there isnt another one in the UK so who are you?</description>
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		<title>By: Ron Atkinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Atkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 10:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you actually write or were instead assiting those who wrote &#039;speeches&quot; during the Stonewall era?</description>
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		<title>By: Biloxi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Biloxi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 11:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NLP, etc.:  Used to program the VICTIM and/or &quot;recipient&quot; to OBEY.  For example, to accept suffering as a necessary part of being human and therefore the GREEN movement is about our entire species being the joyous recipients of dying for the planet to live.  And, but of course, those who have decided this GREAT HARVEST, December 21, 2012, get to be the ongoing GODs of earth as it has been for eons.

http://www.henrymakow.com  Has the agenda of this cult.

In the brain are nine compartments.  The first compartment is at the top of the bridge of the nose, just above the forehead.  Get the picture?  Once we have control over the GIFTS in our own brains (COMMON SENSE, for example), there is not any technology or other form of mind/brain control that can touch our THINKING STUFF.

The nine compartments line up (think of the crown of our skull), and add up to the number 15.  This practice is one of the most advanced of the ancient Taoists, who provided the EARTH CHILDREN more than 12,000 years ago with practices against the more predatory of our species, which they had more than noticed.

Editor, contact me and I can give you this entire practice to share with GB, et al., and then maybe with billions of brains fully awakened we can have some fun in the TRUE CHANGE, which beings in the IDEA, first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NLP, etc.:  Used to program the VICTIM and/or &#8220;recipient&#8221; to OBEY.  For example, to accept suffering as a necessary part of being human and therefore the GREEN movement is about our entire species being the joyous recipients of dying for the planet to live.  And, but of course, those who have decided this GREAT HARVEST, December 21, 2012, get to be the ongoing GODs of earth as it has been for eons.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.henrymakow.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.henrymakow.com</a>  Has the agenda of this cult.</p>
<p>In the brain are nine compartments.  The first compartment is at the top of the bridge of the nose, just above the forehead.  Get the picture?  Once we have control over the GIFTS in our own brains (COMMON SENSE, for example), there is not any technology or other form of mind/brain control that can touch our THINKING STUFF.</p>
<p>The nine compartments line up (think of the crown of our skull), and add up to the number 15.  This practice is one of the most advanced of the ancient Taoists, who provided the EARTH CHILDREN more than 12,000 years ago with practices against the more predatory of our species, which they had more than noticed.</p>
<p>Editor, contact me and I can give you this entire practice to share with GB, et al., and then maybe with billions of brains fully awakened we can have some fun in the TRUE CHANGE, which beings in the IDEA, first.</p>
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		<title>By: Wiggins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wiggins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 21:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is frightenlng stuff. Always had my suspicions about the late 80&#039;s - Michael Fish -  hurricane(s)  in the South East.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is frightenlng stuff. Always had my suspicions about the late 80&#8217;s &#8211; Michael Fish &#8211;  hurricane(s)  in the South East.</p>
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		<title>By: Wiggins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wiggins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whaaaaaat ????
And this from the boneheads that gave us 24 hour licencing laws. The mind boggles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whaaaaaat ????<br />
And this from the boneheads that gave us 24 hour licencing laws. The mind boggles.</p>
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		<title>By: Wiggins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wiggins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pass the sickbag !</description>
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		<title>By: Faye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Faye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 18:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It always makes me suspicious when people hide behind threatening legal actions and when such people become very enthusiastic about censorship. There&#039;s a certain minset that revels in spin, but most such individuals result in downfalls due to over confidence</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It always makes me suspicious when people hide behind threatening legal actions and when such people become very enthusiastic about censorship. There&#8217;s a certain minset that revels in spin, but most such individuals result in downfalls due to over confidence</p>
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		<title>By: NOEL</title>
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		<dc:creator>NOEL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 18:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one should be worried about Personal beefs and hang ups as they 
are well thought-out truths.</description>
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are well thought-out truths.</p>
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		<title>By: Faye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Faye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 16:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there does seem a backlash and the forum seems mor about people&#039;s personal beefs and hangups than any actual discussion. Most posters are men, read into that what you like</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there does seem a backlash and the forum seems mor about people&#8217;s personal beefs and hangups than any actual discussion. Most posters are men, read into that what you like</p>
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		<title>By: Faye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Faye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 07:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>all not very interesting and IMO misdirection from answering the original question posed here
Does anyone else have any information on this or is it being censored due to fear of legal action from Mandelson and associates?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>all not very interesting and IMO misdirection from answering the original question posed here<br />
Does anyone else have any information on this or is it being censored due to fear of legal action from Mandelson and associates?</p>
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		<title>By: Wiggins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wiggins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least we can see through the lie-ing bastards. Unfortunately the rest of the population have been &#039;brainwashed&#039; .
Ps. who won X-Factor last night ?</description>
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Ps. who won X-Factor last night ?</p>
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		<title>By: Veronica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Veronica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 22:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John said:

&quot;You are still free to bury your head in the sand ...&quot;

And, when you do that, James ... which part of your anatomy is most exposed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John said:</p>
<p>&#8220;You are still free to bury your head in the sand &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>And, when you do that, James &#8230; which part of your anatomy is most exposed?</p>
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