The End Of The United States

Mike Robinson

Sep 19th 2008
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As I write this, in a real sucker punch, the FTSE is up 10% so far today. Hooray, the world is saved!

Or not.

What could be behind this insane, hysterical reaction?

One reason is that late yesterday, the FSA called a halt to short selling of financial stocks in the UK. As a result, many (t)raders have had to get themselves out of short positions. That musta hurt!

The second, much bigger, reason is that the US Treasury Secretary, Hank Paulson, in collusion with the US Congress, is about to commit an act of blatant treason.

Instead of doing the right thing, which would have been to place the system in administratrion (bankruptcy reorganisation), he has decided to make the United States itself bankrupt.

The bankers are laughing up their sleeves.

What Paulson has announced is this: he will establish a Federal agency to buy up what will amount to trillions of dollars of bad debt. The debt will become the liability of the US taxpayer. The bankers will get off scot free. The US will also insure investors in US money-market funds, which have seen significant withdrawals in recent days.

The idea is that, in a reflection of the Resolution Trust Corporation, the debt will be warehoused so that it can get the chance “for much of it to recover a portion of its value.”

But make no mistake, as far as the financial system is concerned, this will achieve nothing, other than delay the inevitable once again.

The real benefit for Paulson’s controllers, is that long held goal of the financial elites - the end of the United States, and that pesky Constitution.

What about us, here in the UK? For us, there’s the small matter of the spectre of hyperinflation which will make Weimar Germany pale into insignificance.


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  1. Biloxi

    September 18, 2008 http://www.wethepeoplefoundation.org/#LatestNews

    WTP Brings Federal Lawsuit to Stop AIG Bailout

    U.S. Lacks Constitutional Authority for Loan

    On the day following the 221st anniversary of the signing of the U.S. Constitution, WTP Chairman and constitutional activist Robert Schulz today filed a federal
    lawsuit in United States District Court in Albany seeking to halt the execution
    of the emergency bailout of American International Group, Inc. (AIG) by the
    United States Government and the Federal Reserve.

    The lawsuit asserts that the commitment of public funds and credit for the direct benefit of privately owned AIG is an ultra vires action by the United States Government and Federal Reserve, i.e., beyond the limited legal authority granted
    by the Constitution. The lawsuit asks for a “show cause” hearing demanding that
    the Government produce evidence of its legal authority to commit public funds for such a purpose, as well as emergency and permanent injunctions halting the
    bailout transaction. (continued…)

    Click Here To Access the Update

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  2. johnmorton

    Let us be clear here: this is a declaration of war against the United States of America by the international fascist banking cartel.

    If this is not resolved politically in the immediate future, this is going all the way into civil war.

    We must all pray for the American people that the US Congress acts to reassert sovereignty, or things are going to get very nasty very quickly.

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  3. david_grothier

    sure its an ultra vires action, but the lawsuit will never get off the ground as all with sense recognise the implications of no bail out.

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  4. Alpha Uniform

    “The idea is that, in a reflection of the Resolution Trust Corporation, the debt will be warehoused so that it can get the chance “for much of it to recover a portion of its value.”

    Hmmmm…..no different to what ENRON did, and a host of companies are doing. Laying off the losses into a holding company so that losses don’t appear on the books!

    Crininal fraud has been legalised????

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  5. 420

    9/19/09 (Reuters) The federal government is now bailing out compulsive gamblers in Las Vegas, Reno, Atlantic City, and elsewhere. Anyone who has lost $1000 or more gambling in U.S. casinos may apply for a full refund at taxpayer expense, by writing to:

    Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson
    Department of the Treasury
    1500 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
    Washington, D.C. 20220

    Include a copy of your income tax returns as proof of your gambling losses, and the treasury will issue you equal compensation withing 6-8 weeks. The refund program does not apply to offshore gambling, Internet gambling, and losses at casinos run on Native American reservations. Details are available at the U.S. Treasury web site at
    http://www.ustreas.gov/.

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  6. johnmorton - Sorry. Too late. We’ve entered the debt-death spiral. There is no possible way out at the moment. We can’t cut deficit spending without killing the economy. We’ve lived on debt for so long that it is now systemic in the system. If has to collapse to correct itself. We’re toast. The US will have a severe depression shortly. I do apologize for our greedly little megalomanical leaders here and the effects they are having around the world… sorry. :(

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  7. General Grant

    revolution is the only solution.

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  8. James

    the reason the NWO/Illuminati even exists is that the majority of citizens are themselves treasonous. Its the natural rash that comes out when the average man does not give a damn about truth or justice. Just so long as he is comfortable. We tried to warn them about 911, about the NWO, etc etc. Big smirking assholes mock and deny and go back to their football or whatever. . So let them cheer on McCain and Obama. Let the nation and the world fall to hell. its totally deserved.

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  9. Skully

    Well Gent-lmen

    The game has been over since the Jesuits sunk the Titanic.
    There is nothing left really except to turn to the kind of ruthlessness
    they were actually born and bred with…Funny thing is that they can not
    re-start time and so they are screwed

    Cheers
    Skully

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  10. Everyone is going on about the system collapsing, but there is human agency here. This is a kind of coup, a financial 9/11 which will allow a particular faction to monopolise all wealth and power. The same, transatlantic crowd, no doubt, who thought up the Georgia provocation i.e. Cheney and co.. They’re managing to present this as an act of salvation for the “economy’ and as with Georgia use it to help win the election.No way will they allow the Democrats to win. They are playing all their cards now and in the short term may well succeed. Longer term there isn’t much hope for this return to the dark age. It won’t pull the rest of the world down and international isolation and hopefully domestic opposition will do for the regime.

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  11. Mexican

    American Fobaproa!!! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fobaproa)

    Good way to go guys, further generations should pay.

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  12. Kim

    There is NOTHING in the Constitution (in its spirit or in writing) which allows for this perfidy. We are being systematically taken down in every way by the world bankers, assisted by our own ignorant , self-aggrandizing, so-called “representatives.”. The elite cannot and will not tolerate a truly free republic consisting of armed, well informed and intelligent citizens.

    “I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.”

    The “insurgent,” Thomas Jefferson, Letter to the Secretary of the Treasury Albert Gallatin (1802) 3rd president of US (1743 - 1826)

    http://etext.virginia.edu/jefferson/quotations/jeff1325.htm

    Lamp posts and rope are looking pretty good right now.

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  13. david_grothier

    I have been a strong opponent of irresponsible banking since they foreclosed on the Creamery in St Clairs West Wales.

    I did my bit in taking a few to the little boys cleaners and not paying on loans—donating the proceeds to Save the Children and a few other charities.

    Problem is I have seem SO MANY SIMPLY TALK ABOUT DOING THE SAME—-AND TALK IS NOT LIKE MONEY—ITS CHEAP

    I BET KIM WOULD BE THE FIRST TO RUN A MILE AT THE SIGHT OF A LAMP POST AND A ROPE WITH A GREEDY IRRESPONSIBLE BANKER ON THE OTHER END.

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  14. Mr. Davis

    Next week will be the unwinding of the Hedge funds (think of how much stock they will dump on the market when the short selling rules expire in 9-trading days). Beyond “genius” politicians to solve.

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  15. When did lying murderers acquire “authority”? Printed currency is not money. It is deemed “legal tender”. See Merrill Jenkins : Money - The Greatest Hoax in the world. See Willie Martin Files Outline. See Eustace Mullins - Secrets of the federal reserve, and the Curse of Canaan. See Obadiah, and Matthew 13. Israel is not “jewish” and “jews are not Israel. “Reject truth…place yourself in judgement..” -Wayne Martin. Waco 9/11 tapes. Zakheim should at least be arrested with Silverstein, and Zellikow.

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  16. Bill Wanke

    Drive the Money Changers from the Temple!!!!!!

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  17. Grant

    I am from the UK, but I hope the people of America realise that this economic crisis is infact a coup. This is an invasion of the United States by financial rather than military means. Put it this way just suppose the FED loans the US GOV Billions of $`s so the US GOV can buy all these bad asset bonds (debts) off the banks. What then if the US GOV can no longer pay its debts. Would the FED then OWN the US GOV. Question is,who owns the FED? If you can answer this question then you will know who will OWN the United States once this coup is complete. These people wont stop there they want the whole world. But do you know the story about DAVID and GOLIATH !

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  18. Vee

    Maybe what is most appalling is that the regular Joe doesn’t have a clue as to what is about to transpire over the next year or two because it ain’t over yet and they aren’t ready for it. Scary times in which we live. I hope that some of the greedy fall with a larger thump than the poor or middle class. It’s about time that “I feel your pain” from those that don’t really, means something. What a corrupt and sad world we live in. Maybe tar and feathering will come back in vogue again when the regular guys and gals figure out what they have done to us. I can dream can’t I? General Grant above knows the solution. Viva the solution.

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  19. Jack the Whipper

    American banks made most of those bad loans under intense pressure from the Government in the first place, so don’t just blame the banks. There are unseen hands behind this mess, as the above writers have discerned, and surely the intent is the coup d’ etat more commonly known as another step forward towards the New World Order. They know that the common man is not well-versed in exotic financial scams.

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  20. Apostle

    My guns and ammo are paid for

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  21. Over there Over here
    Over there Over here
    Everywhere
    Yes the Bailouts are comin
    The Bailouts are comin
    What’s happening over here?

    Over there, over here
    Send the word, send the word everywhere
    That the Bailouts are coming,
    The Bailouts are coming,
    Billions and Trillions Ev’rywhere.

    So prepare, say a pray’r,
    Send the word, Taxpayers everywhere
    Yes the Bailouts are comin
    The Bailouts are comin
    All taxpayers now be aware.

    Over there.

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  22. Tom Ness

    I got a big laugh tonight from the mainstream media (which I monitor just to see what kind of propaganda the sheeple are being fed) as they sputtered how hugely surprised they all were about this week’s financial crash. Anybody who cruises through the blogosphere financial reporting regularly has known this was coming for years, with increasing accuracy about who, how and when. It makes it truly difficult to be in public these days knowing you are surrounded by sleepwalkers and zombies. It’s going to get ugly if they all wake up at once.

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  23. This is a foolish plan which is going to make a bad government created mess even worse.

    The FDIC and SIPC already guarantee the deposits so we were already on the hook in case of abject failure. Now we are on the hook in case of pending failure.

    Let the efficiencies of the market place punish the poor decision makers. Accumulating all the bad debt into the hands of taxpayers is just wrong.

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  24. S E AW

    The American people are a basically trusting lot because of their Christian heritage. It is unfortunate that they have been betrayed by unscrupulous people and a compliant media. Many countries can see this but the American people themselves can’t seem to understand what is really happening around them, living as they are in the flickering twilight of the American dream and caught up in the hoopla of elections. It is all so sad and all who have their welfare at heart can only pray that God will be merciful..

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  25. dogismyth

    I dare say that I agree with you since all those around me think I am kaputz!

    I would happily exchange my life to stop the corruptness and the planned takeover of U.S. assets. Many people will suffer…some terribly. Many will be moved to exact vengeance in an expedient fashion. It is one of the basic instinct of man.

    Good luck. Hope to see you all at the fight.

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  26. Teancum

    I’ve always suspected that among my brothers and sisters in England there are those who are truly enlightened and know the truth of the evil persons who have taken over the once great United States of America. I am so pleased to read the comments on this page and honor those of you who have made them.

    As you probably know, it was the House of Rothschild and their agents in the U.S. (Schiff, Warburg, Morgan, Rockefeller, etc.) that hoisted their nefarious “Federal” Reserve Bank on the ingnorant and deceived American sheeple and have been fleecing us ever since.

    You are all right…this is the end of the American economy, and America itself will soon be overthrown…but there are many here who are truly enlightened, as yourselves, and we will not be overthrown completely.

    There is a remanant of good, solid, Christian patriots, who are armed with the righteousness of God (and armed with plenty of brass and lead) that will emerge triumphant over the evil Illuminati.

    The coming U.S. economic collapse will trickle throughout the entire world and take down many nations in the process.

    I also believe the evil President of the U.S. is planning a pre-emtive attack on Iran that will eventuate in World War III and involve Russia and China - and will involve nuclear weapons.

    Thank you for your goodness and your intelligence and your prayers in our behalf…

    We are all going to need each other in the trying days ahead.

    Good night from America,

    Teancum

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  27. Bobby

    So in essence what this catastrophe and its solution entails is this–Americans get to pay to make sure their own money in the bank is safe. This solution of course, was proposed by the same Wall Street Criminals that brought us the catastrophe in the first place. Also, as one poster pointed out, the government itself under Clinton and then continued by Bush pressured banks to make unsafe loans to people they damn well knew could never pay back those loans, all in the name of diversity. If we truly had an honest government, hundreds of our leaders would be locked up for life, for what they have done to the U.S. citizenry.

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  28. Vox Veritatis

    I say we track down every crooked international banker, conniving politician who supports corporate welfare, and member of the Fed and give them a serious ass-kicking and horse-whip them down Wall Street before tying them to planks and tossing them in the Hudson River. Bailouts for these corporations is intolerable and every American taxpayer should answer with torches, pitchforks, and maybe even muskets if necessary, for as a previous poster pointed out, this would certainly be an act of war declared against honest, hard-working Americans who actually have to pay the consequences for their actions. These shameless criminal degenerates have looted the treasury and completely perverted the law. It’s time to take a stand.

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  29. david_grothier

    Track down international bankers–you must be joking we wont even get the irresponsible bankers here in the UK.!

    UK BANKS HAVE HAD A RAPACIOUS APPROACH TO COMMUNITY LIFE IN THE UK FOR GENERATIONS.

    WHEN THEY STARTED IMPERSONAL BANKING AND DID AWAY WITH HIGH STREET BANK MANGERS THE ROT REALLY SET IN.

    THEN IN FAVOUR OF THE FOLLY IF INTERNET BANKING THEY CLOSED MANY A HIGH STREET BRANCHES CAUSING GREAT INCONVENIENCE TO MANY…BUT DID THEY CARE–DID THEY HELL

    BANKS ARE PRIVILEGED PRIVATE COMPANIES, WHICH THE PUBLIC ARE FORCED TO USE AND THEREFORE THEIR PROFITS ARE ALMOST GUARANTEED.

    HOWEVER BANKS IN THE UK DURING THE NEGATIVE EQUITY SCANDAL (1980/90s) FORECLOSED ON MANY FAMILIES ONLY TO MOVE TO SELL THEIR HOUSES FOR MUCH LESS THAN WHAT WAS OWED ON THEM( AND THEY WERE WORTH AT AUCTION).

    STATISTICS LATER DEMONSTRATED THAT BOTH BANKS, AND THE FAMILIES CONCERNED WOULD HAVE ALL BENEFITS FROM AN ETHICAL APPROACH AND MORTGAGE RESTRUCTURING.

    A number of people I knew committed suicide when they realised they were going to lose their homes solely due to the economic situation of the late 80s and 1990s, which of course was out of their control and based upon Friedman´s influence over Thatcher.

    There was anger–––-and because of the whole crazy situation I advocated action against the banks–––-what happened from the sheeeple, well the same that will happen now for all the big talk here––-nothing.

    I know what I am about to state will be to many, but I feel it needs to be said as we all need a wake up call–-at least while we are able to wake up. (in fact it horrifies me each time I watch the old documentaries).

    I am still a student of 20C warfare and I could never understand how so many Jewish families just calmly walked to the deaths in the camps without a fight, yes there were pockets of resistance but not that many. There is one scene of the victims getting off the train at Auswich.

    Here they are separated into groups, those to work, those to die, women here, men there and children over there. God almighty this still reduces me to tears just writing about it.

    One child is separated from his mother, and runs back to her, an SS guard pulls the child away but he runs back to his mother only to be separated again, both mother and child are now hysterical–-but the killing goes on, and no one does a thing, people just stand and watch as both separate lines of woman and children are lead into buildings of death.

    We have two issues here, that fact that the people were lead like sheep to their deaths with little or no resistance, and the fact that there was a man, loads of them, SS Guards, who could do things to a child that would, and is still breaking my heart to watch…..to think I am part of what we call the human race make me increasing want to puke.

    This time people we simply must not be complacent. There are now 6.721 billion people living on this planet 50% of which are living in totally undignified conditions due to the polices of greedy capitalist bankers through their polices of globalisation, and conditions are getting worse. Remember people that he poorest country in the world Haiti despite (or because of) France and the United States repeatedly intervened in Haitian politics since the country’s founding. But whatever both these major international players still look on as people die in abject poverty.

    This is coming to us all if we don’t wake up and act-

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  30. John Morton

    To all Americans reading this:

    Know that there are those in England, most especially us at the UK Column who stand with you in solidarity against this evil, fascist plot against your country.

    We do everything we can to expose this from our side, and stand ready to work with you on a new economy, under sovereign government control once again, taking the power away from these private banking scum once and for all.

    The power rests in YOUR hands. Get armed, get angry and get ready. Call your Congress people and DEMAND that they block this bailout plan. Get organized and prepare to resist, because we in England have no means of defence and we are relying on you to save representative government for us all, everywhere.

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  31. david_grothier

    Wow wow wow John–YOU GO TO FAR!

    I AM NOT THAT SURE THERE S A FASCIST PLOT AS YOU SAY.

    I am not convinced of this conspiracy theory plot.

    I have been in the market for many years and I am putting this down to the stupidity of greedy unregulated banking practices while conducting my own further investigations.

    For the longer term interests of world stability and the 10000000s of poor already affected and for whom things could get a whole lot worse without this bail out, I am all for it as being the most sensible option.

    Besides I think you are now going over board on this US thing, we have to start putting our house, Britain, in order before meddling elsewhere.

    I would leave that to the CIA if I were you as they are expert at such things..

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  32. Mohammed Abdullah

    This is the time we have been waiting. Down come the wrath of the lord. Though the american public is innocent they were not doing anyting to stop their nation from killing innocent iraqies, afganis etc., Do you understand now that “Divide and rule” does not always work buddy. Ha Ha. The Great nation’s so called “Foreign Policy” is good for idiots. Arragance is the reason for all of these. Now who cares for america. I wrote this just to show how delighted I am to see, people loosing their money, people starving to death including innocent children and women etc., Just the same picture like in Iraq and Afghan. It would be ideal if a earthqueak or a Tsunami hits America , Ameen.

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  33. Enufs Enuf

    David Grothier - you are STILL not convinced that this is a ‘fascist plot/conspiracy theory’????

    Be assured there most definately is an agenda and you are watching it unfold live, 24/7 the world over…….

    Some of us have spent years investigating all aspects of it.

    It is my belief that the ongoing financial coup is the final part of this global agenda for a one world government or ‘new world order’ as gordon brown so lovingly announces every five minutes.

    It is also my belief that very soon, an excuse for martial law will be created and for which we should all be prepared.

    One more time: Gordon Brown proving to you just where this financial catastrophe came from and to what end:

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=hMmj8RM5Kr8

    May God Almighty have mercy on us all - and to those throughout history and to those still following the same agenda - it’s not too late to repent…….

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  34. Peter1945

    David,
    I am not conviced that John is GOING TO FAR. I for one believe these (finacial) events are happening by design and not by accident or gross in competence. I kNOW there is a lot of “Conspiracy Theory’s” about, but don’t assume they are all bunk. I would not suggest that this applies to you but, sticking ones head in the sand and thinking they are all untrue is naive in the extreme.

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  35. david_grothier

    Assalamu alaykum

    In relation to Iraq I fully agree with what you are stating. The suffering we in the West caused this nation through the folly of Bush and Blair will be a cancer on our livers for many future generations,

    This is without forgetting the ten years of illegal sanctions that caused many innocent women and their children to die through the holding back of essential medical supplies.

    May GOD and ALLAH have mercy on us all.

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  36. david_grothier

    Enufs Enuf after years of researching you should have no problem proving you comments–I invite you to do so.

    Peter1945 Please be assured my head is far from in the sand.

    You say and I quote

    I for one believe these (finacial) events are happening by design and not by accident or gross in competence.

    Please support your statement with facts.

    LOOK PEOPLE THESE ARE THINGS WHETHER TRUE OF NOT, YOU CANT DO A DARN THING ABOUT—WHAT YOU CAN DO IS TO START AT HOME AND SAVE THE UK FROM COMMON PURPOSE—THEN BUILD FROM THERE.

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  37. Peter1945

    David,

    First of all, I said I did NOT think YOUR head was in the sand….so PLEASE read what I said. I was not attacking YOU, just putting over my views and feelings…nothing wrong with that!

    “Please support your statement with facts” No I cannot lay down in black and white for you anything like that, because it is like trying to prove a negative, but I can’t help But trust my gut feelings. It is a belief not a statement of fact.
    I would say however, that events of this nature are outlined in the “Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion”…ok it may be a suspect document..but why are its contents coming true.

    I don’t think anyone will disagree with you over Common Purpose, and I have been trying to do my small bit by telling my friends and others about them.
    But most people are only giving there comments and replys to the Main Items that have been posted by The Editorial Managerment……and they are not ALL about Common Purpose.

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  38. david_grothier

    No offence taken Peter I am quite impervious to that.

    Deal with what you can feel and touch and do something about—the rest. if it exists, can be taken on board later and from a much stronger position,

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  39. David,

    Common Purpose is a fairly significant part if the puzzle, but its only a part. Limiting the debate to Common Purpose, and so limiting the activism to Common Purpose, limits our effectiveness.

    At the moment, John and I are the only two writers for the site, as others work on the newspaper. We don’t want to duplicate the content. Anyone wanting to help, should contact me by email.

    So far, by the way, we have had 14,000 or so individual IP addresses look at this article.

    As far as our broader plans go, there’s quite a bit of exciting stuff coming, which will give people the chance to get much more involved. Keep watching.

    Mike.

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  40. david_grothier

    ED, I am a practical person. I limited my attention to what I can see and touch and know what is there and that I feel I can do something about.

    And Common Purpose I can and I am in my own way.

    I cant do a dam thing about the fact the the US 6th Fleet was out a sea on Dec7 1941 nor can I ascertain that The Protocols of Zion are authentic or a good Russian joke so I don’t even consider then worthy of debate when there are more urgent and pressing issues at stake.

    We all have our fantasises and as Peter1945 states its just his gut feeling, well that’s understandable as I have had one of those for years over the Euro Millions lotto—-saying that there is a draw tonight—now here did I put my ticket?

    ED stripping common purpose out of the equation, do you serious think that you and John are having any real impacting effect upon the other topics here?

    More like added shades of dark to the mysteries would not agree!

    There are those still theorising if KING TUT was killed or died naturally—these things tend to go on forever.

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  41. Sorry, David, but where did you read that I was stripping Common Purpose out of the equation?

    We are not limiting the scope of this site to Common Purpose. A somewhat different thing. If you want to contribute to the site with articles about Common Purpose specifically, then please do so.

    In case you are unaware, we also run a site dedicated to Common Purpose, Common Purpose Exposed.

    Mike.

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  42. Enufs Enuf

    David:

    Common Purpose is a massive part of this ‘conspiracy’.

    The ‘national curriculum’ is also a massive part of same conspiracy - as a parent I am in constant conflict with the ‘liberalisers’ at school who will not vere from their beloved ‘curriculum’ which is, in reality - believe it or not - satanic and which is currently working perfectly to create a nation of dumbed down sheople who never question anything and who are too scared by constant propaganda that everything is ‘out to get them’ and hence, behave like rabbits in the headlights - ie DO NOTHING!!!

    Watch this from Charlotte Iserbyt: The Deliberate Dumbing Down of the World:

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DDyDtYy2I0M

    Agenda 21 - a major part of both of the above…..and Local Agenda 21 - the local version of the UN global ‘Agenda 21′…….links in to the ‘global warming’ scam yes ‘ SCAM which merely provides more control and more £££££$$$$$ for the criminals who act as our saviours but in reality are wolves in sheeps clothing….

    Ongoing financial global coup = rothschild =bank of England owners/controllers and also owner/controllers of the Fed Res…..1913 - The Creature from Jekyll Island…..Money Masters….Secrets of the Federal Reserve…..just scroogle….

    911…..Afghanistan, Iraq,,,soon to be Iran = see above…..

    Eu - see above.

    Veolia - waste disposal, wheely bins etc = see above…..

    Seatbelts, bin offences, dangerous dogs, speed cameras - see above….

    NEXT!?

    Conference?? - or at least a meeting??

    This thing is GLOBAL. I can tell you who the ‘enemy’ is and who the ‘good guys’ are - to a point - because as we’re told in the Bible about the synagogue of satan:
    “those who say they are jews and are not but are of the synagogue of satan”….

    These ‘people’/entities have morphed and continue to do so, into anything that will gain them control of local, national, international and now, the final act - the global takeover of the entire world for their lord and master……???????

    Please just ask if I can point you in any direction you want to PROVE that this global coup against humanity is sadly, VERY REAL.

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  43. Hi All.
    The US Congress are terrified of the consequences should they speak or act out of line.
    They have seen with JFK and many others what can happen if they do. It would take the whole of Congress to unanimously and as one, move against the elite. They would have the whole nation behind them, save for the few who attend the conventions…
    Here in Blighty we need to take the Magna Carta, remove from it that which serves Rome, take Common Law and again remove that which serves the elite and keep only that which supports the new Magna Carta. We then present this new constitution to the people as our backdrop to curtail the power of the government, as the American Constitution was written to accomplish. There is no reason why we cannot expand the Magna Carta, which must include the proviso no government can borrow at interest monies from a private bank..
    We are still going round in circles if we do not base the move against that which is destroying our nation, with a solid and understandable constitution…

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  44. Hi All.
    Common Purpose is a massive part of the conspiracy, but one has also to include the organisation that is religion, secret societies such as the freemasons, the Jesuits, even the Knights of St John are controlled or rather confounded by the Order of the Garter.
    There are the satanic networks such as the Golden Dawn, a massive organisation in this country which sets about ensuring the correct crime wave is on relative to what the elite wish to legislate against or to raise more revenue (insurance). I have first hand experience of this network, this network is what I first began to expose six years ago.

    The system of the elite is massive; it has had 7000 years in which to install it. What we need is for man to remember he is man, and remove himself and his wealth from the organisations who thus use all you have to serve this evil agenda. We are in this together whatever ones religion or society, yet we have to see these organisations at elite level…all of them, as networks ultimately serving the Inner City banking Cartel, which is the chief executive office of the Imperial bloodlines Roman empire, itself only a new skin of the serpent that was and is Babylon….

    Click this for a brief study of the empire from the point of Rome :

    http://lifeinthemix.co.uk/new_world_order.html

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  45. Teancum

    This is for all who haven’t yet made the connection that there IS an ORGANIZED CONSPIRACY moving these events to their final conclusion…

    Especially in answer to David’s post above:

    >david_grothier
    >Wow wow wow John–YOU GO TO FAR!
    >I AM NOT THAT SURE THERE S A FASCIST PLOT AS YOU SAY.
    >I am not convinced of this conspiracy theory plot.

    Please check out this premiere WEB site for tons of scientific data proving the WTC Twin Towers and WTC Building 7 were brought down by internally planted incendiary and explosive devices:

    http://www.journalof911studies.com/

    Especially look at the foremost proof presented by Dr. Steven Jones - a physicist - in his peer reviewed paper on those collapses:

    http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/200609/Why_Indeed_Did_the_WTC_Buildings_Completely_Collapse_Jones_Thermite_World_Trade_Center.pdf

    Dr. Jones has analyzed the dust from the collapsed buildings and found irrefutable evidence of ’super-thermite’ spread all through the dust of those buildings. He performed very highly technical analysis in an electron microscope which returned the ’signatures’ of super-thermite as the particles in the dust. If you will read his paper you will not only read about his findings but he also presents pictures of the molten metal that was a result of the super-thermite melting the columns of those buildings.

    Another great site on this subject is:

    http://www.ae911truth.org/

    At this site are the testimonies of many architects and engineers that add their professional knowledge to this debate.

    In simple terms you cannot bring down 110 story steel reinforced concrete buildings at - near freefall speed - without blowing out the supporting columns below the collapse field.

    The demolishing of the WTC buildings was clearly an ‘inside’ job with the complete mechanism of the U.S. government and their ’security’ forces highly involved - not to mention the Illuminati controlled mass media.

    This world economic crises is no different. It has been brought about by the loose fiscal policies of the Illuminati owned private bank - The “Federal” Reserve Bank. After a decade of deregulation and easy money policies (and lots of what some experts believe are illegal transactions) the Fed pumped up a massive housing bubble and an even more titanic derivatives bubble (that the Bank for International Settlements has determined is at the level of $540 trillion dollars - though they determined that only 60% of that number is real value and the other 40% will never materialize.)

    Now they have the sub-prime mortgage bubble in full implosion and that is starting to pull down the big banks and securities brokerages and now the giant $540 trillion derivatives bubble is starting to unwind and will take the entire world economy down with it.

    David, and others, please realize this is all being planned by the Illuminati, which with their coming World War III will eventuate in an attempt at a golbal one-world socialist government.

    Now, lest I leave you all with nothing but hopelessness…

    Know this, that the God of Heaven is very aware of these current and coming events - and who is bringing them upon us. He does expect us as His obedient children to wake up to the awful sense of our situation - because of these horrible secret combinations that are among us.

    His Kingdom is rising upon this Earth and as His Prophets have said, many times - “He will provide a way of escape for the righteous.”

    There is wisdom in all of us acquireing at least a years supply of food, clothing and where possible fuel - and the means to protect it! Yes we have been counseled to get armed.

    The Lord and His people will triumph in these last days of tribulation and He will deliver His people through it all.

    The Lord is also soon to be again on this Earth and utterly overthrow all of these terrible, wicked conspirators and set up His perfect kingdom of perfect peace. We just need to survive until He gets here - which will be soon.

    Keep up the great work you’re doing on the ‘other side of the pond’ and we will continue to do our part here, in the once great land of America.

    Remember, we are brothers, we came from the same Christian / Israelite stock of patriots that conquered the noble land of England and then established the great land of America.

    Teancum

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  46. Frances

    When I began warning people about this corrupt financial system many years ago, I was told I was a pessimist. When I began advising friends, family, and strangers that the banking practices over the past 13 years were going to lead disaster, I was scoffed at. When I advised people to have about a 30 day cash supply on hand, I received blank stares. Now, I must apologize to the rest of the world for not being able to awaken my fellow Americans to stand up to the treason that has been purpetrated upon us for a very long time, by a long string of greedy traitors, thus resulting in complete bankruptcy. I say this because I am debating whether I will ever pay taxes again, whether I will ever use a bank again, and certainly, I will never rely on the market for my retirement. Real change isn’t going to come by electing anyone. It will only come when we stand up together, as one, around the world, and say enough. We have so much power that we haven’t used for a long time. Let all workers of the world stop work for half a day, for starters. They do understand money as we can see by their ‘deer in the headlights’ look this past week.

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  47. david_grothier

    The Editor

    David,

    Common Purpose is a fairly significant part if the puzzle, but its only a part. Limiting the debate to Common Purpose, and so limiting the activism to Common Purpose, limits our effectiveness.

    hi Ed perhaps I took the above wrongly. However for me I will stick to Common Purpose. Its such a subtle little devil. I was actually involved once with Agenda 21, back in the days when I was brainwashable.

    I give daily thanks to Brian Garrish for my awakening.

    These things I can see touch and feel, and know the evil influence thereof, and consequently the dangers.

    However the fight is more difficult than perhaps you think as we already have the first generation of university students and graduates who have been brought up on this stuff.

    The battle field is at home and real, the world out there is fully of so many conspiracy theories that will send you head spinning for a year of so if you dwell on them.

    As a military minded person–in situations when your troop numbers are low and the enemy is far superior —-its always been a productive policy to use what you have to the effective advantage and fight that was that you know you can win and fight it from a strong home base.

    Right now we Brits don’t have a strong home base, therefore we need to secure our country before fighting the world’s ills.

    With a strong secure Britain the world is ours for the taking,

    Of course I will gladly concede to those who know better, and I am fully aware of the many hidden agendas that run along side the many conspiracy theories which could be nothing or those dived and conquer merchants our and about again.

    So for me if you don’t object, I will respectfully retreat, dignity in hand and concentrate on the fight against Common Purpose and eradicating its scourge from within the UK.

    Life you are quite right and there are not many here that understand the might of the British monarchy. The one thing that always troubled me deep is why a great charismatic person like Ronald Reagan, who had it all on leaving office, found it so important to be knighted by the queen—-I guess its all dawning upon me slowly but surely.

    Its not only Common Purpose, but perhaps the root of all you concerns my be found around buck house and the square mile!

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  48. Maggie

    It’s time to start keeping all of our money. No taxes, no payments to FICA, no payments to Social Security. It’s not going to be there for us anyway. Time to depend on ourselves folks. Get cash based jobs or jobs with an employer that leaves your tax payments to you. Do not give another cent to our government until it realizes that we are not going to take this anymore.

    Cash under the table jobs, jobs where you barter, jobs where you set your own time. Barter for your rent, barter for your food, and refuse to fill out the W4’s if you get a new job. No law requires you do so. You can tell your employer that you will handle your own 940 and 941 forms, then don’t pay one penny to the government until they listen. Pay your state taxes and support your state, but the government can take a hike.

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  49. Tom Collins

    If we are to face “organised” doom and gloom, then everyone should be made aware so that they can at least “try” to make some arrangements for their security.

    If only the few see what is happening then they have a duty to expose EVERYTHING, and the names (and addresses) of the people, persons, individuals and organisations behind it..

    WHEN will it happen ? HOW will it happen ? WHERE will it happen ? WHAT will be the next sign ?

    So many questions — so few anwers.

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  50. streetfigther

    Another step toward one world government……….

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  51. Re:Mohammed Abdullah

    Hey Mohammed you arrogant pig, there are good people, Muslims, Christians and otherwise, who are going to be suffering in this country and you’re jacking off at the thought? What makes you better than the ones who caused this mess? What makes you think you’re SAFE?

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  52. atrayou

    Thanks, to all of you for making these interesting and enlightened comments and expressing your heartfelt frustrations about all of the corrupt and illegal actions of our gov.s and especially the banking and and financial departments of our gov. Many people over the last hundreds of years have warned us about the magnitude of tyranny possible and warned us of the consequences.
    However I personally don’t think it’s intelligent to talk of world war III or the nude world order , or lets be as mean as they are , or something based on just our feelings that actually only shows that we are so lacking for solutions that we are ready to play their stupid little game , give them the power of decision, and just sit in the corner and complain. NO is the word. It’s really simple. WE should definitely call their bluff this time. So I propose 1 Prove to the people of the world , by offering 5 alternative solutions , some debate, and an intelligent choice based on the expert analysis of renowned economists gathered together by the US Gov for the purpose of finding solutions other than this UP YOUR WAREHOUSE solution, that this UP YOUR WEARHOUSE solution is in the best interest of the working middle class, and we will accept it. Don’t follow step 1, and we will bring this entire country to a grinding halt with a general strike, until you do. You’re bluffing. and we the people are calling it. The power is still in the hands of the people! Let’s use it. We can’t sit this one out. Com’on this a the chance we’ve been waiting for . Their bluffing just like they have many times before. To react is to change. Just talking and discussing won’t do it this time!

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  53. johnmorton

    David et al

    There is absolutely no question at all that this economic collapse is a random event.

    The overall agenda is to collapse the United States’ economy (which has been ongoing for decades now through Wall St led outsourcing and globalization), and at the last minute, transfer all the accumulated losses of the international financial system onto the US taxpayer, leaving the British Empire to control the world.

    That Empire, albiet largely invisible to the naked eye, controls vast tracts of raw materials, food and mining cartels around the world, so in the post collapse stage, when the dark age comes upon mankind, the controllers of that Empire will return to rule the world as they once did unchallenged by that pesky “Republic” across the pond.

    There have been literally thousands of books written on this subject so I am not going to waste any further time trying to prove this point, I just hope that you accept what I am saying and move forward with us from here.

    For further evidence, see page 11 of the May edition of the column that talks about the planned and orchestrated phases of the controlled disintegration of society, in this case modelled on the Fabian playbook.

    We keep talking on this site about “knowing our enemy” in order to fight, and while I absolutely 100% agree with you that Common Purpose is a very significant, and easy target in that fight.

    BUT, WHAT IS CONTROLLING COMMON PURPOSE?

    Final point: If we do not understand the nature and the cause of the fight we are in, we are going to lose. The loss of the “Great Republic”, as Churchill called it, means the loss of everything for us all, and the sooner people understand this, the sooner we can get on the same page and fight the same war. It is imperative that people see the global strategic picture here, as this fight is being waged in all nations simultaneously, but by far and away the hardest and most important target of this international FASCIST conspiracy, is the United States, closely followed by Britian.

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  54. streetfigther

    All well and good, David et al, we understand the target but we are powerless to do a thing about it due to media on the wrong side and lack of public understanding. We now have government against the people, when those accountable are able to keep their positions and enrichments. As I said before another step toward one world government, economies etc……..

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  55. atrayou

    As pointed out here the average Joe really doesn’t understand the problem or the proposed solution. Many people just have faith that somehow it will all work out. It really is simple and needs to be made simple. Common purpose should and must be a part of the discussion as for instance , sharing , using currency without interest, or any number of interesting and intelligent solutions. But lets not put the cart first. If someone tells you lies , that cause untold suffering to innocent people , lies over and over about many things, tortures innocent people without trial or even charges, and bends every situation to their personal advantage regardless of the consequences, do you ask that person to solve a major financial problem? What do you expect but more lying and cheating until either the planned goals are achieved , or perhaps the unplanned consequences destroy our hope of an intelligent solution to these and many other problems. Stupid greedy people are sick and dangerous to the common good , and should rightly be treated much as we treat other sick and dangerous people. Asking them what we should do, actually proves that we are even dumber than they are. Why are we giving them the power of decision?

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  56. gort

    I end is not here but it’s close

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  57. Tony

    Well, since I don’t think that these banksters (or the polititions for that manner) represent us, that means we are experiencing TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION modern style. I don’t feel like being a slave for an even bigger portion of the year so that those of privelage can buy out their privelaged friend’s problems and stick us with the tab. The land of opportunity just got stolen by the opportunists. When people start to starve and especially when THEIR TV GETS CUT OFF there will be bloodshed on a massive scale.

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  58. Randa

    It was the PPT doing their filthy work — buying, buying, buying until their masters said, “ok, boys, that’s enough.” Wait until Monday. Wait until a week Monday. Wall Street is finished.

    Death to USA?……………..no more money to Israhell, no more money to murder 1,256,000 innocent Iraqis and displace another 4 million, no more killing innocent Afghanis and Pakhistanis, and Palestinians. I am American. But I say, death to America, and maybe the world will have a moment of peace. And Love.

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  59. ann

    The international bankers bankrupted the United States quite some time ago. If Wall Street is bailed out with taxpayers’ money, it will represent an historic swindle of the American public. The American people must mobilize immediately to stop the bail out of Wall Street and the financial institutions.

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  60. John Morton

    To the people here posting “death to the USA” - do you have any idea what you are talking about?

    You are calling for the end of civilization!

    You may not like what America has become under GW Bush, and we all agree with that, but just like in the UK, America is suffering under the same criminal government, and THAT is the source of the problem, not the vast majority of American and British people who want this evil to end.

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  61. Re:Re:Mohammed Abdullah

    Hey It hurts Isnt it?
    Listen I’m not in America, I am in Isreail, with necessary WMDs, So I am safe. I am Jew. Did you hear that. I AM IN ISRAEL, I AM A JEW.

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  62. Enufs Enuf

    Good Morning Friends

    As it’s Sunday, as usual I WON’T be going to church, but I thought you might like to consider the spiritual battle which lies at the very heart of what most call a ‘conspiracy’ but I call an AGENDA.

    Please put aside your religious or otherwise beliefs if you want, like me, to understand what we must do to defeat the ‘adversary’ and the system that manifests ‘its’ will.

    From my ongoing research and from the opinion of countless others, those who are causing all the woes of humanity, whether they know it or not, are of the ’synagogue of satan’ - who are at work carrying out the final global coup against all of humanity live, 24/7 all around us in the guise of the ‘global economic crisis’ in particular but through every war, famine, ‘war on terror’ , global warming scam etc etc etc

    No matter what our views might be on the ‘who/why/how of our predicament, The Bible tells us who ‘the adversary’ is and who work for ‘him/her/it’ to assist the agenda for total control of the world…..yes, sadly, it’s true. In addition to the physical battles manifesting on many fronts, we are all, whether we know it or not, involved in the spiritual battle of the Agenda too:

    12For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

    Apparently, 75% of people do not believe in an ‘adversary’ aka satan and this is one of the greatest scams played against humanity:

    “The greatest trick the devil ever played was convincing us he doesn’t exist”.

    I too used to laugh at the thought of an entity called satan - however, the ROTHSCHILDS…..don’t.

    So whilst WE might not believe in satan - ‘they’ do!

    Here’s who the ‘adversary’ is - ie before and at ‘the fall’ he was lucifer…..after the fall and on and around the Earth he is satan and the 2nd para tells us what the Agenda is:

    Isaiah 14:12-13 (KJV)

    12How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

    13For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

    14I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

    Here’s who is servants are:

    1. Revelation 2:9
    I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

    2. Revelation 3:9
    Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

    And how does ‘he’/they do it?

    Corinthians 11:13-15 (KJV)

    13For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.

    14And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

    15Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

    So here’s the spiritual solution which I carry with me through the reading of every new and harrowing exposure of the Agenda and which gives me strength and hope. Whilst I totally agree that it is WE the people who are the solution, I hope this passage gives you the knowledge that the solution begins within each one of us in our hearts:

    Ephesians 6

    1Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right.

    2Honour thy father and mother; which is the first commandment with promise;

    3That it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth.

    4And, ye fathers, provoke not your children to wrath: but bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord.

    5Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ;

    6Not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but as the servants of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart;

    7With good will doing service, as to the Lord, and not to men:

    8Knowing that whatsoever good thing any man doeth, the same shall he receive of the Lord, whether he be bond or free.

    9And, ye masters, do the same things unto them, forbearing threatening: knowing that your Master also is in heaven; neither is there respect of persons with him.

    10Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.

    11Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

    12For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

    13Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

    14Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;

    15And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;

    16Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.

    17And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

    18Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;

    19And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel,

    20For which I am an ambassador in bonds: that therein I may speak boldly, as I ought to speak.

    21But that ye also may know my affairs, and how I do, Tychicus, a beloved brother and faithful minister in the Lord, shall make known to you all things:

    22Whom I have sent unto you for the same purpose, that ye might know our affairs, and that he might comfort your hearts.

    23Peace be to the brethren, and love with faith, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

    24Grace be with all them that love our Lord Jesus Christ in sincerity.

    Ephesians:
    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=56&chapter=6&version=9

    Syn Satan:
    http://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?quicksearch=synagogue+of+satan&qs_version=9

    Angel light:
    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Corinthians%2011:13-15;&version=9;

    Lucifer fall:
    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=29&chapter=14&verse=11&end_verse=13&version=9&context=context

    And before you naysayers verbally attack me for being ‘off message’ - I defend these words as the very basis and spiritual solution at least, of the monumental spiritual and physical battle we are all facing.

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  63. Mohammed,

    Go away, you troll. If you are in Israel, why are you posting from a Saudi IP address?

    Mike.

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  64. david_grothier

    Morning John

    You say, —–We keep talking on this site about “knowing our enemy” in order to fight, and while I absolutely 100% agree with you that Common Purpose is a very significant, and easy target in that fight.

    BUT, WHAT IS CONTROLLING COMMON PURPOSE?

    I say fight what you know you are fighting and what you know you can defeat, one positive step forward will surely get you to where you need to go in the end, as a head is of little use without a body.

    Fighting what you cant see would be like sparring with ALI blindfolded.

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  65. John Morton

    David

    As an ex serviceman I applaud your direct and uncomplicated approach.

    But, warfare is not always about simply kill power: we also need to think about strategy and tactics. Simply charging the first visible target of attack and blasting away with all out ammunition does not win the war. For every common purpose soldier you eliminate, another thousand will appear, just as in Iraq and Afghanistan with these perpetual warfare policies.

    It is necessary to know precisely what it is that you are fighting FOR, in order to maintain morale and enable those fighting with you to dedicate themselves fully to the mission.

    For me, Common Purpose is just a manifestation of a deeper problem that has plagued western civilization since records began, i.e. is man just another animal, or not?

    In my view, the underlying thing we are really fighting is a “principality and power”, the Satanic power of those who insist that man is a beast, and act accordingly in their dealings with society. It does not matter if such individuals are Common Purpose, CFR, Trilateral, Bilderberg or any other host of pseudo-secret society “think tanks”, the issue is the same.

    We have to attack and destroy the enemy from all sides and all levels: economically, ideologically, politically, spiritually. But our greatest weapon is the truth, and if we cannot be clear about these basic principles, then we are not telling the truth about our society, ourselves, and what it is that is the root of our problems.

    I guess what I am saying is that the struggle is not only external, but also internal, within ourselves, for the truth.

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  66. johnmorton

    Oh, and if you doubt what I said earlier about the fact that this is ABSOLUTELY a CONSPIRACY to destroy the United States, please read the following:

    http://bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&refer=home&sid=ae6b6P1L8E_E

    The language of this bill that Paulson is using this emergency to ram through is designed to allow the liabilities of the entire bankrupt financial system to be transferred to the US Government.

    This will collapse the US dollar and any country in the world exposed to large quantities of US government debt - i.e. basically everyone.

    Welcome to the new dark age.

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  67. Hi All.
    In the first instant we expose Common Purpose, we name them and enlighten the people what they are doing and how. I personally feel and do give them the label; ‘Nazi Collaborators’. My experience with CP graduates is they have no idea CP could be anything other than what they are told by CP. So to give them another angle which we offer, and with ever increasing population support many will see the reality, many will just shit and leave. So it has to be a stepping stone movement coming from all angles until a pincer movement is in place, then squeeze…Most will jump ship…

    Of course I am open to alternative strategy…..

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  68. Hi All.
    Second move which we should start immediately, is to get involved in politics, we cannot institute real change if we do not take part. We have to act as they do and get our people in.
    If we can attract people already in the game then all the better, people who will at every step do all they can to block CP in all their agendas, frustrate their network, keep on their case, don’t let them have an easy ride. We all understand that to deceive one has to take great steps always, they have much to do yet, so we make it twice, three times more difficult. They will make mistakes and we need to be there to exploit their mistakes. They play dirty, you play dirty, match their move with a better one. While we still have the odd person involved in the system we must identify them and offer our support if they move against them…

    WE NEED STRATEGY, WE NEED ACTION, WE NEED EACH OTHER, WE NEED TO THINK….

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  69. johnmorton

    Life

    These are good ideas.

    However, people need to understand the seriousness of the international crisis that we are now in. If this bailout plan goes through, it is curtains for all of us, everywhere.

    The ONLY solution is a complete bankruptcy re-organization of the entire international financial and monetary system, and that can only be initiated from the United States with the collaboration of Russia (you may have noticed some important statements along those lines in recent days from President Putin among others).

    Since the financial institutions we are talking about here are largely European, the game of musical chairs that is now in play over what to do with this bankruptcy can only be solved if the major powers of the world unite to confront the EU banking cartels and tell them in no uncertain terms that FASCISM is not going to be accepted by the majority of people on the planet, and that they MUST come to the negotiating table to form a new monetary system.

    We must force this issue onto the political agenda somehow, somewhere within the UK as other nations are already beginning to make moves in this direction.

    This is a very dangerous game, but if we are all going to die anyway, we may aswell go down fighting.

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  70. david_grothier

    Know your enemies, reconnoitre, evaluate their strengths and weakness, identify targets, efficiently and effectively disable them, efficiently and effectively withdraw to safe base. Prepare for the next assault on the enemy.

    The shortest distance and most effective line of attack is generally a straight line barring natural obstacles,

    This is indeed a dangerous game we enter into—no person ever won a victory dying for the cause, they won making sure the other poor bastard died for his.

    That Is why I WILL GO ON FIGHTING AND NOT DOWN FIGHTING.

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  71. John g.

    Thanks to the comments of most of the individuals above, all but a couple who can’t see the trees for the forest. You can see all the evidence of a so called conspiracy theory unfolding before your very eyes. If you say you haven’t been affected by it in one way or another, you’re bullshitting your self. There is no more theory.

    Hope you survive.

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  72. ozburg7

    Random event? Conspiracy? Know your enemy? Mankind has only ever had one enemy - selfishness.

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  73. david_grothier

    What evidence, you only expound theories. Of course there are many conflicting and conforming events that’s normal for us humans, “as in got 2&6pence were going to a dance” a derivation form the trenches of WWI from “pass it down the line prepare to advance!”

    I can see things very clearing, so much so that I can express my views to concentrate on the pressing problems of the UK, which the dilution of the nation’s spirit through Common Purpose. John ask who is behind Common Purpose, I accept its the EU, then who is behind the EU, could well be the Nazi’s were not as dead and defeated as we thought, if not then bring in the Swiss bankers, and then the Jews!—–and before you know where you are your lost again in conspiracy theories.

    This is why I use the traditional approach in strings at the being of the things you know you want to defeat—-the rest should tumble down like a house of cards as those pulling the strings can only do so if the string they pull are attached to something such as Common Purpose, who in turn need to pull yours!

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  74. david_grothier

    ozburg7

    Not quite so a review of History will clearly show that there have been many men who have unselfishly offered up the ultimate sacrifice for the love of man and principle. Our greatest sin is that we allow such a magnitude of total unaccountability for all our sins and errors.

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  75. ozburg7

    David - I agree that history does show there have been some incredibly humble and unselfish people walk the planet at times - in that you are correct. But I was talking in the broader sense. If we take a generalised look at the history books over the last 5000 years, I’ll think you find the history of murder, mayhem and self centred behaviour far outweighs the history of self sacrifice. I’m not a gambling man, but I think the bookies would give a hundred to one on that bet.

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  76. Hi All.
    I would suggest this be the final battle. i am not a man who has ever required the organisation religion is, I do however live by a moral code that can be found in all scripture.
    Talk of a global move against the fascist’s is i fear short sighted given that the worlds leaders are in with the Inner City banking cartel, in most cases through blackmail.
    We first have to remove them from this country and truly become what we have always believed ourselves to be, ‘PIONEERS’. Action is now required, a move against the elite is now an essential strategy.
    As is the case with most people who can see what is going on they stop short of action, they refuse to get involved in politics, refuse to allow their individual power to shine as a light for others to follow. It is clear many posting here have seen past the lies, and for the first time in many a year I can see people losing the word ‘THEORY’ in relation to the great conspiracy. Instead of merely debating we should come together and strategise, then act on that strategy and learn as we go…

    Who is behind the EU? A conglomerate of Royal bloodlines who have deceived man they have no power. They first shielded themselves through Constantine who created the Church of Peter between the despised Imperial bloodlines and the people, then again through Charlemagne, the reformation, and then again with the Central Banks.

    It is the same families running the show today as it was in Babylon through Egypt, to Greece and to Rome…It has only ever been one empire, which sheds its skin every now and then to confound the populace.

    The Jesuits are the Preaetorian guard for these bloodlines with a new name, all the Knight’s orders are but regiments for the Jesuit military, protecting the Nefilim bloodlines and their contract with the Anunnaki who morphed into the Elohim on their return post deluge….

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  77. Hi All.
    If I may be so bold, I would take this opportunity to help one understand the reality of the situation we face :

    Click this :
    http://www.larouchepub.com/other/1995/2249_windsor_food.html

    And this :
    http://www.larouchepub.com/other/1995/2249_brown_and_avery.html

    Then take time out to listen to this six part interview which since I began exposing this weapon on site every base on which this weapon is situated is on my site monitering, UK, US, EU, Israel, Norwegian, Russian, and Pacific Islands. They do not like this at all. So take time to see with open eyes and click this :

    http://lifeinthemix2.co.uk/haarp_death.html

    Happy hunting…

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  78. Enuf's Enuf

    I’m with you Life - however, the sticking point is the ’spiritual’ angle - which is definately not ‘religion’, which sadly, is a huge part of the problem….

    I tried politics - in 2004 worked my socks off for UKIP EU Elections…..however the gravy train chugs on…..became a PPC…..someone didn’t want UKIP to stand in by-elections…..the political system is so far gone that we have to just walk away.

    We also have to walk away from the scam of The Bar and ‘The Law’ and replace with Freeman on the Land kind of law - links available - and we need to do some collective work on this pronto as I believe it could be the main route to our freedom….

    Here are a couple of things to check out if you need some more proof - The Protocols contains the actual agenda being played on us like a fiddle……until now that is….

    http://www.churchoftrueisrael.com/protocols/

    FAMOUS VIEWS ON THE PROTOCOLS
    Introduction
    Protocol I - The Basic Doctrine
    Protocol II - Economic Wars
    Protocol III - Methods of Conquest
    Protocol IV - Materialism Replace Religion
    Protocol V - Despotism and Modern Progress
    Protocol VI - Take-Over Technique
    Protocol VII - World-Wide Wars
    Protocol VIII - Provisional Government
    Protocol IX - Re-education
    Protocol X - Preparing for Power
    Protocol XI - The Totalitarian State
    Protocol XII - Control of the Press
    Protocol XIII - Distractions
    Protocol XIV - Assault on Religion
    Protocol XV - Ruthless Suppression
    Protocol XVI - Brainwashing
    Protocol XVII - Abuse of Authority
    Protocol XVIII - Arrest of Opponents
    Protocol XIX - Rulers and People
    Protocol XX - Financial Programme
    Protocol XXI - Loans and Credit
    Protocol XXII - Power of Gold
    Protocol XXIII - Instilling Obedience
    Protocol XXIV - Qualities of the Ruler
    Epilogue
    Appendix

    Proofs of a Conspiracy by John Robison, mentioned in Myron Fagan’s presentation (from 1960’s).
    http://www.sacred-texts.com/sro/pc/pc04.htm

    Check out Myron Fagan/Illuminati/New World Order on http://www.youtube.com

    Time is short my friends and we desperately need the police and military to wake up!

    However bad all this might seem - there is always hope and I am confident that true justice will be seen to be done……

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  79. Hi All.

    Just to further support what I have thus offered click this :

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5266884912495233634

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  80. Hi All.
    Do you still feel you can deal with these people????
    They must be destroyed PERIOD.

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  81. John Morton

    Life

    What is now underway is a FASCIST COUP against the US Constitution and people, so no, I do not agree that we can deal with these people.

    If they are seriously thinking they can get away with this, then they are in for a very big surprise, as I believe this is now the tipping point for a massive social explosion.

    Brown and his gang of incompetent, corrupt thieves are now talking about RAISING TAXES, in the middle of a major recession/depression, when households are already suffering the consequences of their economic and other mismanagement over recent years. This just goes to show what a gang of tyrants we have running this country, but moreover, just how bankrupt we actually are in reality.

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  82. Hi John.
    I agree. The turning of the financial tide is to put us all out of action by having us so busy trying to survive they can pick us off one by one without any fuss.
    The wars are working in sync to close down the nations under military law. We can expect some heinous event shortly before Bush is set to leave, which in all likelihood will keep him in power for the foreseeable future. I have many contacts in the US and can say it will be no walkover for them to take the US when the patriots rise.
    The problem here is that in the UK we have no foundation on which to offer the people as a direct opposite to the current situation, with Brown selling our gold we cannot even base our currency on solid mineral wealth as was the case in the US between 1876 and 1913. This is the model we need to base our idea upon. What we do have however is the means to invent, to create, and must rally those who are retired to get their thinking caps on and get to it. We also need to remove the Masonic and Jesuit farmers from the land and begin to grow again which requires new flight regulations to prevent the chemtrails which are killing the trees and vegatation across the US.

    We have to address HAARP and quick smart although I have had great response to the information over the last few weeks, so people are beginning to see.
    Those of us who have awakened first must place ourselves in the position of guides to the coming insanity so people stay cohesed or anarchy will rain, the elite control the anarchists as they did in Russia and France at the time of the revolutions…
    So it is imperative one becomes fully aware of the whole game and not just bits of it.

    The Nefilim have never been defeated in their game of control because they always control the alternatives, I would cite the reformation as prime example which gave the Imperial bloodlines two armies to conquer for them. We must be vigilante we do not fall for the same again.

    UNISON IS THE KEY THEY DO ALL THEY CAN TO DIVIDE, I HAVE WITNESSED THIS IN MY LONG LONG JOURNEY THUS FAR, THEY ARE EXPERT AT CREATING DISTRUST BETWEEN THOSE OF US WHO HAVE THE BALLS AND SENSE TO DO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE…

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  83. Hi All.
    The sad truth is UK, US, France, Germany , were bankrupted before the commencement of the Second World War, we have been mere puppets of the Inner City banking cartel since that time. We have been used only to expand the grip of the Nefilim bloodlines across the globe. We have to face these facts. We get rid of the elite we can possibly escape from all out destruction of our systems. Cocaine is the facilitator for all those who have played along with greed and self rightiousness; this also needs to be addressed. Cocaine comes into this country via the oil pipelines from the many offshore rigs that have popped up on the west cast over the last 20 years….Strange do you not think given the North Sea oil is on the east coast???

    The simple fact is we have all been fooled based on the fact we have all been indoctrinated since birth to do what we are told by those we are told have authority…This gave them the authority…

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