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		<title>By: John Morton</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Morton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 08:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom

The 4th Reich is being built on the ashes of the old American Republic, which is now in terminal economic collapse and about to be put under martial law for the final implementation of the NWO plan:

http://winnipeg.indymedia.org/item.php?24803S</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom</p>
<p>The 4th Reich is being built on the ashes of the old American Republic, which is now in terminal economic collapse and about to be put under martial law for the final implementation of the NWO plan:</p>
<p><a href="http://winnipeg.indymedia.org/item.php?24803S" rel="nofollow">http://winnipeg.indymedia.org/item.php?24803S</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tom Collins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 22:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t this a case of the UNITED States joining the African UNION  and being joined by the European UNION etc. etc. to make the New World Order ?

Whoever controls the MONEY  controls the World.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t this a case of the UNITED States joining the African UNION  and being joined by the European UNION etc. etc. to make the New World Order ?</p>
<p>Whoever controls the MONEY  controls the World.</p>
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		<title>By: Davv</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 22:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey guys:
All good and some great comments. As a sociologist in the US (born and raised), may I offer the analogy of a crackhead to the behavior of the power elite in the USA. Don&#039;t know how many of you have had an addict in the family, but I have and have worked with some and so will tell you that US is a crackhead, a junkie addicted to oil, conspicious consumption, and the bliss of its own ignorance about any truth. As with any addict, there have been ups and downs, times of extreme stoner&#039;s high (i.e. 1990&#039;s) and hitting the wall when pushers beat US up for unpaid crack money (i.e. 9/11 and market crash early 2000&#039;s). Now a crackhead will do anything for a hit, no matter how quick and short-lived and will DEFY any formerly established morals, values, and traditions set by his family, friends, or co-workers (that would be the American people and other allies around the world). The economic bailout then is like the crack monster pawning Grandma&#039;s beloved wedding ring; no matter how it will hurt in the short-term, there will be a quick high (i.e. AIG&#039;s tropical retreat and spa). But just like a crackhead, there is a gamble, take part of the pawn money and gamble it, feeling that you&#039;ll get enough to pay the pawnbroker back and replace the ring (taxpayers&#039; money and trust) without its absence being noticed. Crackheads (power elite) think this will work, in their cocaine haze of madness (described above), it seems rational. When you all in other countries see US folk on TV, it is these deluded people who are interviewed and shown to represent all of us. There are many, many, intelligent people here in the US who know the truth, practice the truth, walk the truth, shout the truth, but like the crackhead&#039;s righteous, prophetic cousin, we are ignored, shunned, and bullied by law enforcement. But my friends, I don&#039;t have to tell you the rest of the story, you all know what happens to the crackheads don&#039;t you? We over here, ain&#039;t got no rehab. . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys:<br />
All good and some great comments. As a sociologist in the US (born and raised), may I offer the analogy of a crackhead to the behavior of the power elite in the USA. Don&#8217;t know how many of you have had an addict in the family, but I have and have worked with some and so will tell you that US is a crackhead, a junkie addicted to oil, conspicious consumption, and the bliss of its own ignorance about any truth. As with any addict, there have been ups and downs, times of extreme stoner&#8217;s high (i.e. 1990&#8217;s) and hitting the wall when pushers beat US up for unpaid crack money (i.e. 9/11 and market crash early 2000&#8217;s). Now a crackhead will do anything for a hit, no matter how quick and short-lived and will DEFY any formerly established morals, values, and traditions set by his family, friends, or co-workers (that would be the American people and other allies around the world). The economic bailout then is like the crack monster pawning Grandma&#8217;s beloved wedding ring; no matter how it will hurt in the short-term, there will be a quick high (i.e. AIG&#8217;s tropical retreat and spa). But just like a crackhead, there is a gamble, take part of the pawn money and gamble it, feeling that you&#8217;ll get enough to pay the pawnbroker back and replace the ring (taxpayers&#8217; money and trust) without its absence being noticed. Crackheads (power elite) think this will work, in their cocaine haze of madness (described above), it seems rational. When you all in other countries see US folk on TV, it is these deluded people who are interviewed and shown to represent all of us. There are many, many, intelligent people here in the US who know the truth, practice the truth, walk the truth, shout the truth, but like the crackhead&#8217;s righteous, prophetic cousin, we are ignored, shunned, and bullied by law enforcement. But my friends, I don&#8217;t have to tell you the rest of the story, you all know what happens to the crackheads don&#8217;t you? We over here, ain&#8217;t got no rehab. . .</p>
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		<title>By: Enufs Enuf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Enufs Enuf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 16:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Ed - &#039;out of date&#039; or &#039;removed&#039;......it&#039;s not &#039;the norm&#039; for gov depts to remove stuff from the Internet is it????

Hmmmm???? and thank you very much for updating.

I will continue to direct firemen, chip shop owners, opticians, gas/electricity meter readers and shop owners/assistants etc to the brown video as his open admission of the planned &#039;restructuring&#039; could AND SHOULD form the basis of his arrest, trial and incarceration for treason imho - and apparently, Treason is still a capital offence!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Ed &#8211; &#8216;out of date&#8217; or &#8216;removed&#8217;&#8230;&#8230;it&#8217;s not &#8216;the norm&#8217; for gov depts to remove stuff from the Internet is it????</p>
<p>Hmmmm???? and thank you very much for updating.</p>
<p>I will continue to direct firemen, chip shop owners, opticians, gas/electricity meter readers and shop owners/assistants etc to the brown video as his open admission of the planned &#8216;restructuring&#8217; could AND SHOULD form the basis of his arrest, trial and incarceration for treason imho &#8211; and apparently, Treason is still a capital offence!!</p>
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		<title>By: The Editor</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 15:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your link to the treasury transcript is out of date. Here&#039;s an alternative:

http://nds.coi.gov.uk/Content/Detail.asp?ReleaseID=293441&amp;NewsAreaID=2</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your link to the treasury transcript is out of date. Here&#8217;s an alternative:</p>
<p><a href="http://nds.coi.gov.uk/Content/Detail.asp?ReleaseID=293441&#038;NewsAreaID=2" rel="nofollow">http://nds.coi.gov.uk/Content/Detail.asp?ReleaseID=293441&#038;NewsAreaID=2</a></p>
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		<title>By: Enufs Enuf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Enufs Enuf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 15:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lest we forget:  Brown in 2007 announcing the coming &#039;greatest restructuring of the global economy&#039; and his beloved new world odour:

&quot;...and I believe what will also be said of this age, the first decade of the 21st Century, that out of what will be seen as the greatest restructuring of the global economy, perhaps one even greater than at the time of the industrial revolution, a new world order was created.....&quot;

Gordon Brown
Mansion House
20th June 2007

See and hear it for yourself:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=hMmj8RM5Kr8

And here’s the UK (government) Treasury transcript of the speech:

http://www.hm-treasury.gov.uk/newsroom_and_speeches/press/2007/press_68_07.cfm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lest we forget:  Brown in 2007 announcing the coming &#8216;greatest restructuring of the global economy&#8217; and his beloved new world odour:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;and I believe what will also be said of this age, the first decade of the 21st Century, that out of what will be seen as the greatest restructuring of the global economy, perhaps one even greater than at the time of the industrial revolution, a new world order was created&#8230;..&#8221;</p>
<p>Gordon Brown<br />
Mansion House<br />
20th June 2007</p>
<p>See and hear it for yourself:</p>
<p><a href="http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=hMmj8RM5Kr8" rel="nofollow">http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=hMmj8RM5Kr8</a></p>
<p>And here’s the UK (government) Treasury transcript of the speech:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.hm-treasury.gov.uk/newsroom_and_speeches/press/2007/press_68_07.cfm" rel="nofollow">http://www.hm-treasury.gov.uk/newsroom_and_speeches/press/2007/press_68_07.cfm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Enufs Enuf</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 11:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some highly pertinent mp3&#039;s exposing the ongoing financial coup not just against the US but against the entire world:

financial advice and exposing &#039;them&#039; - entertaining and amusing as the good ship britannia goes down....
Listen To The National Intel 09/23/2008 Report:GUESTS: Bob Chapman -- TheInternationalForecaster.com &amp; Robby Noel -- EaglesUp.com HOUR: 1 TOPICS:Bail-out Bill (Liquidity Injections) Before Congress;Averting Personal Financial Disaster; Hyper-inflationary Policy...Mp3 Stream

http://www.twowitnesses.us/national_intel_01_09_23.MP3

Listen To The National Intel 09/23/2008 Report:ESTS: Bob Chapman -- TheInternationalForecaster.com &amp; Robby Noel -- EaglesUp.com HOUR: 2 TOPICS: Comparing Situation to Great Depression: Different Now, Greater Danger;Market Volatility Connected to Paulson Statements, CNBC ...Mp3 Stream
http://www.twowitnesses.us/national_intel_02_09_23.MP3

Listen To The Dr. Bill Deagle 09/23/2008 Report: JOAN VEON - AMERICA REDUCED TO THIRD WORLD STATUS ? SPECIAL REPORT ON SERFDOM OF US AND PEOPLES OF EARTH OR TOTAL ECONOMIC MELTDOWN - N.W.O. REGIONALIZED TEN ZONES OF FINAL WORLD SECULAR EMPIRE !! mp3 Stream hwww.womensgroup.org Mp3 Stream
http://www.twowitnesses.us/dr_bill_deagle_09_23.MP3

Listen To The Jeff &amp; Benjamin 09/24/2008 Report:With Jeff Rense &amp; From Tokyo Benjaimin Fulford US Crash Asian Impact. Mp3 Stream
http://www.twowitnesses.us/jeff_and_benjamin_09_24.MP3

Right click, save as - so long as the links are live.  Otherwise, go to http://www.twowitnesses.com for links which will be there for a couple of days.

You&#039;ll have to manually avoid the ads I&#039;m afraid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some highly pertinent mp3&#8217;s exposing the ongoing financial coup not just against the US but against the entire world:</p>
<p>financial advice and exposing &#8216;them&#8217; &#8211; entertaining and amusing as the good ship britannia goes down&#8230;.<br />
Listen To The National Intel 09/23/2008 Report:GUESTS: Bob Chapman &#8212; TheInternationalForecaster.com &amp; Robby Noel &#8212; EaglesUp.com HOUR: 1 TOPICS:Bail-out Bill (Liquidity Injections) Before Congress;Averting Personal Financial Disaster; Hyper-inflationary Policy&#8230;Mp3 Stream</p>
<p><a href="http://www.twowitnesses.us/national_intel_01_09_23.MP3" rel="nofollow">http://www.twowitnesses.us/national_intel_01_09_23.MP3</a></p>
<p>Listen To The National Intel 09/23/2008 Report:ESTS: Bob Chapman &#8212; TheInternationalForecaster.com &amp; Robby Noel &#8212; EaglesUp.com HOUR: 2 TOPICS: Comparing Situation to Great Depression: Different Now, Greater Danger;Market Volatility Connected to Paulson Statements, CNBC &#8230;Mp3 Stream<br />
<a href="http://www.twowitnesses.us/national_intel_02_09_23.MP3" rel="nofollow">http://www.twowitnesses.us/national_intel_02_09_23.MP3</a></p>
<p>Listen To The Dr. Bill Deagle 09/23/2008 Report: JOAN VEON &#8211; AMERICA REDUCED TO THIRD WORLD STATUS ? SPECIAL REPORT ON SERFDOM OF US AND PEOPLES OF EARTH OR TOTAL ECONOMIC MELTDOWN &#8211; N.W.O. REGIONALIZED TEN ZONES OF FINAL WORLD SECULAR EMPIRE !! mp3 Stream hwww.womensgroup.org Mp3 Stream<br />
<a href="http://www.twowitnesses.us/dr_bill_deagle_09_23.MP3" rel="nofollow">http://www.twowitnesses.us/dr_bill_deagle_09_23.MP3</a></p>
<p>Listen To The Jeff &amp; Benjamin 09/24/2008 Report:With Jeff Rense &amp; From Tokyo Benjaimin Fulford US Crash Asian Impact. Mp3 Stream<br />
<a href="http://www.twowitnesses.us/jeff_and_benjamin_09_24.MP3" rel="nofollow">http://www.twowitnesses.us/jeff_and_benjamin_09_24.MP3</a></p>
<p>Right click, save as &#8211; so long as the links are live.  Otherwise, go to <a href="http://www.twowitnesses.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.twowitnesses.com</a> for links which will be there for a couple of days.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ll have to manually avoid the ads I&#8217;m afraid.</p>
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		<title>By: david_grothier</title>
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		<dc:creator>david_grothier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 19:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just for those of you who think you have plenty of time--------

Really quite scary. 

http://tpuc.org/node/44</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just for those of you who think you have plenty of time&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Really quite scary. </p>
<p><a href="http://tpuc.org/node/44" rel="nofollow">http://tpuc.org/node/44</a></p>
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		<title>By: david_grothier</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course this is inevitable and expected--unless we stop it dead in its tracks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course this is inevitable and expected&#8211;unless we stop it dead in its tracks!</p>
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		<title>By: Life</title>
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		<dc:creator>Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi All.
In relation to Gordon Browns speech I have to say was a most sinister of speeches. When you apply the grasp of &#039;Elite&#039; speak  to his rhetoric he was announcing the proposed Global Banking Regulatory body, which is basicaly the IMF-Inner City means to destroy the smaller banks and companies to be scooped up by the Inner City banking cartel; He is in the US today to propose.
On my site Lifeinthemix2.co.uk Good Info page; I have placed Brown&#039;s proposed Logo for this global regulatory body which they promptly removed from their website during April this year after we published it on the net.
The main thrust of his speech was preparation for the New World Order whithout letting the cat out of the bag, I say this becuse the press ain&#039;t reporting it and they removed my post from the London Telegraph, today. This is what I heard :

New Age
New Global Age
New Risks
New Settlement
New Opportunities
New Wave
Also just before his speech, Ken Livingstone on the Politics show talked about the new global financial order, so we can see the underlying premace of the whole Labour conference was geared in the direction of this propsed new global regulation of finance. It is the 1920&#039;s &#039;Turkey Shoot&#039; all over again but on a global level.

He spoke of the children which made my skin crawl. Elimination of child poverty, what he was really saying is; &quot;We shall eradicate &#039;THE&#039; children in poverty, not child poverty.
One has to better understand how Juliani cleaned up the gang ridden New York of the 1970&#039;s to understand his true message.
He spoke of free nurseries for those aged three- four, this as Aaron Russo makes clear in the video interview, is to indoctrinate the children from a younger age, which means indoctrination as set out by Common Purpose. The video is on the 911 page and is only 11 minutes long, Aaron discloses his close friendship with Nick Rockefeller and what Nick told him about the war on trerror and the real reason the elite backed womwn&#039;s lib...

Very dangerous speech indeed...



A big New World Order speech indeed, I only hope others have seen it in the way I have presented.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi All.<br />
In relation to Gordon Browns speech I have to say was a most sinister of speeches. When you apply the grasp of &#8216;Elite&#8217; speak  to his rhetoric he was announcing the proposed Global Banking Regulatory body, which is basicaly the IMF-Inner City means to destroy the smaller banks and companies to be scooped up by the Inner City banking cartel; He is in the US today to propose.<br />
On my site Lifeinthemix2.co.uk Good Info page; I have placed Brown&#8217;s proposed Logo for this global regulatory body which they promptly removed from their website during April this year after we published it on the net.<br />
The main thrust of his speech was preparation for the New World Order whithout letting the cat out of the bag, I say this becuse the press ain&#8217;t reporting it and they removed my post from the London Telegraph, today. This is what I heard :</p>
<p>New Age<br />
New Global Age<br />
New Risks<br />
New Settlement<br />
New Opportunities<br />
New Wave<br />
Also just before his speech, Ken Livingstone on the Politics show talked about the new global financial order, so we can see the underlying premace of the whole Labour conference was geared in the direction of this propsed new global regulation of finance. It is the 1920&#8217;s &#8216;Turkey Shoot&#8217; all over again but on a global level.</p>
<p>He spoke of the children which made my skin crawl. Elimination of child poverty, what he was really saying is; &#8220;We shall eradicate &#8216;THE&#8217; children in poverty, not child poverty.<br />
One has to better understand how Juliani cleaned up the gang ridden New York of the 1970&#8217;s to understand his true message.<br />
He spoke of free nurseries for those aged three- four, this as Aaron Russo makes clear in the video interview, is to indoctrinate the children from a younger age, which means indoctrination as set out by Common Purpose. The video is on the 911 page and is only 11 minutes long, Aaron discloses his close friendship with Nick Rockefeller and what Nick told him about the war on trerror and the real reason the elite backed womwn&#8217;s lib&#8230;</p>
<p>Very dangerous speech indeed&#8230;</p>
<p>A big New World Order speech indeed, I only hope others have seen it in the way I have presented.</p>
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		<title>By: Enufs Enuf</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 07:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I concur what &#039;A Christian in the USA&#039; said.

Tom Collins, with all due respect, have you closely read all the posts?.....there are many suggestions as to what we can do  - they need to be co-ordinated into a cohesive &#039;off the system&#039; alternative.

I have stated many times on various forums/talkbacks that we need awake and aware lawyers, police and military to get involved....without the police, in particular ,on our side - we are heading for much bloodshed than we would like to shed.....it will end
that way sooner or later, of that I&#039;m convinved - UNLESS - we get &#039;off the grid&#039; and stop this mafia ruining all our lives in every facet of our life.

Overnight I heard on Al Beeba that the FBI were investigating events surrounding Lehman, Fannie and Freddie and AIG.....this is a start.  The US Congress aren&#039;t just handing taxpayers money over so eagerly this time to the the global criminal mafia that seeks to lock us down in their version of a &#039;new world order&#039;.  I can&#039;t count the times I&#039;ve posted the video of brown announcing the coming &#039;greatest restructuring of the global economy&#039; on 20th June 2007.......that&#039;s treason.  However, without truthtelling lawyers, there&#039;s little we can do and certainly, we won&#039;t be allowed to get away with a citizens&#039;s arrest if the police aren&#039;t on our side.

I hope and pray that the FBI and Congress have enough truthtelling people like us to carry this through as the eyes of the world are looking to them to stand up to these financial &#039;terrorists&#039;. 

Make no mistake - you are either with them, or you&#039;re with US - the truthtellers......as George W Bush said in the wake of 911:  &quot;You&#039;re either with us, or you&#039;re with the terrorists&quot;.....but just WHO were and ARE the &#039;terrorists&#039;??? I know, do you???

Joshua 24:15 KJV
And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.

You might like to check this out from 2005 - some of us have been trying to awaken people for such a long time but there&#039;s no quitting once you &#039;know&#039;.  I&#039;ll never quit as the future really does rest with people like Brian Gerrish - thank you sir - and the likes of us on this wonderful site.

http://www.cloakanddagger.de/media/Grossmann/Wall%20Street/Wall_Street_Terrorist.htm

We can, we must and we WILL succeed - the danger is that there will always be &#039;infiltrators&#039; who destroy such movements from within......I have personal experience of this in UK &#039;politics&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I concur what &#8216;A Christian in the USA&#8217; said.</p>
<p>Tom Collins, with all due respect, have you closely read all the posts?&#8230;..there are many suggestions as to what we can do  &#8211; they need to be co-ordinated into a cohesive &#8216;off the system&#8217; alternative.</p>
<p>I have stated many times on various forums/talkbacks that we need awake and aware lawyers, police and military to get involved&#8230;.without the police, in particular ,on our side &#8211; we are heading for much bloodshed than we would like to shed&#8230;..it will end<br />
that way sooner or later, of that I&#8217;m convinved &#8211; UNLESS &#8211; we get &#8216;off the grid&#8217; and stop this mafia ruining all our lives in every facet of our life.</p>
<p>Overnight I heard on Al Beeba that the FBI were investigating events surrounding Lehman, Fannie and Freddie and AIG&#8230;..this is a start.  The US Congress aren&#8217;t just handing taxpayers money over so eagerly this time to the the global criminal mafia that seeks to lock us down in their version of a &#8216;new world order&#8217;.  I can&#8217;t count the times I&#8217;ve posted the video of brown announcing the coming &#8216;greatest restructuring of the global economy&#8217; on 20th June 2007&#8230;&#8230;.that&#8217;s treason.  However, without truthtelling lawyers, there&#8217;s little we can do and certainly, we won&#8217;t be allowed to get away with a citizens&#8217;s arrest if the police aren&#8217;t on our side.</p>
<p>I hope and pray that the FBI and Congress have enough truthtelling people like us to carry this through as the eyes of the world are looking to them to stand up to these financial &#8216;terrorists&#8217;. </p>
<p>Make no mistake &#8211; you are either with them, or you&#8217;re with US &#8211; the truthtellers&#8230;&#8230;as George W Bush said in the wake of 911:  &#8220;You&#8217;re either with us, or you&#8217;re with the terrorists&#8221;&#8230;..but just WHO were and ARE the &#8216;terrorists&#8217;??? I know, do you???</p>
<p>Joshua 24:15 KJV<br />
And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.</p>
<p>You might like to check this out from 2005 &#8211; some of us have been trying to awaken people for such a long time but there&#8217;s no quitting once you &#8216;know&#8217;.  I&#8217;ll never quit as the future really does rest with people like Brian Gerrish &#8211; thank you sir &#8211; and the likes of us on this wonderful site.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cloakanddagger.de/media/Grossmann/Wall%20Street/Wall_Street_Terrorist.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.cloakanddagger.de/media/Grossmann/Wall%20Street/Wall_Street_Terrorist.htm</a></p>
<p>We can, we must and we WILL succeed &#8211; the danger is that there will always be &#8216;infiltrators&#8217; who destroy such movements from within&#8230;&#8230;I have personal experience of this in UK &#8216;politics&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: A Christian in the USA</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Christian in the USA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 02:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the USA, from a Christian. This is Satan trying to get his house together for his stand against GOD. Satan will fail. But it is truely sad to live through such a process of evil. Anyone who is saved by there faith in Jesus Christ should not worry to much. We are still on GOD&#039;s plan A, because there is no plan B. So lift up your heads you Saints, and look for your savior. He is very close, and HE WINs. And we will be with Him forever and ever. This life is but a vapor according to the Bible. He has so much more for us that we can&#039;t imagine what its going to be like. If you don&#039;t know the GOD of the Bible. Read  John 3:16 and get to know Him before its to late.  GOD controls history and events, don&#039;t forget that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the USA, from a Christian. This is Satan trying to get his house together for his stand against GOD. Satan will fail. But it is truely sad to live through such a process of evil. Anyone who is saved by there faith in Jesus Christ should not worry to much. We are still on GOD&#8217;s plan A, because there is no plan B. So lift up your heads you Saints, and look for your savior. He is very close, and HE WINs. And we will be with Him forever and ever. This life is but a vapor according to the Bible. He has so much more for us that we can&#8217;t imagine what its going to be like. If you don&#8217;t know the GOD of the Bible. Read  John 3:16 and get to know Him before its to late.  GOD controls history and events, don&#8217;t forget that.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Collins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 22:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With great respect to ALL concerned,  I haven&#039;t heard one POSITIVE suggestion as to how we rid ourselves of the elitists who, presumably , are running the show and who are hell bent on the  destruction of society

When in trouble countries often find themselves a Leader, e.g. Hitler, Mussolini,
so where do we, or the West, find ourselves a Leader who will get us all out of this mess ?  Does he exist ?   What will be the catalyst  -  and when ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With great respect to ALL concerned,  I haven&#8217;t heard one POSITIVE suggestion as to how we rid ourselves of the elitists who, presumably , are running the show and who are hell bent on the  destruction of society</p>
<p>When in trouble countries often find themselves a Leader, e.g. Hitler, Mussolini,<br />
so where do we, or the West, find ourselves a Leader who will get us all out of this mess ?  Does he exist ?   What will be the catalyst  &#8211;  and when ?</p>
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		<title>By: david_grothier</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 19:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You may find this interesting as to how our police work----

SENT TO MARK LYNCH SUPT HEAD OF INTELLIGENCE SOUTH WALES POLICE----I JUST KEEP CHIPPING AWAY-THEY FAILED TO INVESTIGATE THE CORRUPTION OF DYFED POWYS POLICE FORCE AND HERE IS THEIR REASONING FOLLOWED MY MY REPLY(NEVER DID RING)

Dear David,

I have liaised as stated with the SWP Professional Standards Department and forwarded them your complaints in respect of Dyfed Powys Police Force. Your complaints have in turn been forwarded to the DPPF Professional Standards Department.

I have received further advice to the effect that :

SWP cannot be appointed to investigate another force unless directed by the IPCC, and this is only done in extreme cases. The process to be followed is as below :

1. Complaints will be subject of recording decision by Dyfed Powys

2. If you are unhappy with the recording decision then you can appeal to the IPCC (You will be told this when contacted by DPP who should forward details explaining the process)

3. If you are subsequently unhappy with the IPCC then you have recourse to seek legal advice from a solicitor and seek a Judicial Review into their role/decisions.

Including SWP in the loop is contrary to procedures.

Contact details for the IPCC are below

Telephone 08453 002 002

E mail enquiries@ipcc.gsi.gov.uk
Independent Police Complaints Commission
Eastern Business Park
Wern Fawr Lane
St Mellons
Cardiff

CF35 5EA
I will ring to discuss this evening.
Regards,

Mark Lynch.
Detective Superintendent
Director of Intelligence.



Internal - 20 402
DDI - 01656 303471
Mobile - 07790 630332
E Mail - mark.lynch@south-wales.pnn.police.uk


From: David Grothier 
Subject: RE: Follow up
To: Mark.Lynch@south-wales.pnn.police.uk
Date: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 4:09 PM

Hello Mark I trust you are well.

I guess it was inevitable that we would eventual clash, you being part of a hopelessly corrupt system which is regrettable, from my point of view.

I am current studying the most effective way to bring South Wales Police to justice for a failure of duty under the Criminal Justice Act 1988 which specifically cover the indictable offences that ARE REGARDED AS COMMITTED through an or an omission.

I have found that the same rules apply to the prosecution of Police Officers as with any other person. I believe that I have provided sufficient admissible evidence to justify commencing proceedings. On the question of sufficiency this includes the normal requirement which is that there must be &quot;corroboration&quot;, that is evidence from at least two separate sources to establish the essential facts of the case which are the commission of a crime and the identity of the perpetrator. In addition such evidence as there is must be admissible and reliable and prosecution must be in the public interest which I believe it to be.

Furthermore there is an Appeal Court decision of which I am sure you must be aware in which the appellant who was on duty took no steps to etc etc ..... HE WAS CHARGED in an indictment with misconduct whilst acting as an officer of justice in that he deliberately failed to carry out his duty...... by wilfully omitting to take any steps to........ bring to justice....... At the trial he objected to the indictment on the grounds that it did not disclose an offence known to the law. The trial judge ruled against the objection and the trial proceeded. The jury returned a verdict of guilty and the appellant was convicted. He appealed against the conviction on the ground that the trial judge erred in ruling that the indictment disclosed an offence known to law. The appellant conceded that at common law there existed an offence of misconduct in public office, but contended that mere nonfeasance by a person in the discharge of his duty as the holder of a public office was insufficient to constitute the offence and there had to be a malfeasance or, at least, a misfeasance involving corruption or fraud.&quot;

The Court of Appeal HELD:

&quot;A public officer who wilfully and without reasonable excuse or justification neglected to perform any duty he was bound to perform by common law or statute was indictable for the common law offence of misconduct in public office. The element of culpability required was not restricted to corruption or dishonesty, although it had to be such that the conduct impugned was calculated to injure the public interest and called for punishment. Whether there was such conduct was a matter for the jury on the evidence. Since the indictment alleged deliberate and wilful neglect by the appellant to perform his duty...... it disclosed an offence of misconduct in public office. It followed that the judge&#039;s ruling had been correct and that the appeal would be dismissed&quot;.


On another occasion, Sir Anthony Clarke, the Master of the Rolls, said the duty of the police to protect was &quot;not an onerous one&quot;; and nor was he persuaded that the court&#039;s ruling would &quot;threaten police resources&quot; or &quot;open the floodgates to baseless claims against the police&quot;.
&quot;They should have done everything that could reasonably have been expected of them,&quot; added the judge.

The above is just a rough outline and to give you notice of my intention. It would be inconceivable in the name of justice and all children that coroners such as Morgan are allowed to escape justice, as it would be for perjuring doctors, also corrupt police such as DPPF who find protection from an equally corrupt IPPC.

It can never be said that each and all we given a fair and equitable opportunity to behave as decent citizens each doing their legal and natural duties,

Sincerely with best wishes David.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may find this interesting as to how our police work&#8212;-</p>
<p>SENT TO MARK LYNCH SUPT HEAD OF INTELLIGENCE SOUTH WALES POLICE&#8212;-I JUST KEEP CHIPPING AWAY-THEY FAILED TO INVESTIGATE THE CORRUPTION OF DYFED POWYS POLICE FORCE AND HERE IS THEIR REASONING FOLLOWED MY MY REPLY(NEVER DID RING)</p>
<p>Dear David,</p>
<p>I have liaised as stated with the SWP Professional Standards Department and forwarded them your complaints in respect of Dyfed Powys Police Force. Your complaints have in turn been forwarded to the DPPF Professional Standards Department.</p>
<p>I have received further advice to the effect that :</p>
<p>SWP cannot be appointed to investigate another force unless directed by the IPCC, and this is only done in extreme cases. The process to be followed is as below :</p>
<p>1. Complaints will be subject of recording decision by Dyfed Powys</p>
<p>2. If you are unhappy with the recording decision then you can appeal to the IPCC (You will be told this when contacted by DPP who should forward details explaining the process)</p>
<p>3. If you are subsequently unhappy with the IPCC then you have recourse to seek legal advice from a solicitor and seek a Judicial Review into their role/decisions.</p>
<p>Including SWP in the loop is contrary to procedures.</p>
<p>Contact details for the IPCC are below</p>
<p>Telephone 08453 002 002</p>
<p>E mail <a href="mailto:enquiries@ipcc.gsi.gov.uk">enquiries@ipcc.gsi.gov.uk</a><br />
Independent Police Complaints Commission<br />
Eastern Business Park<br />
Wern Fawr Lane<br />
St Mellons<br />
Cardiff</p>
<p>CF35 5EA<br />
I will ring to discuss this evening.<br />
Regards,</p>
<p>Mark Lynch.<br />
Detective Superintendent<br />
Director of Intelligence.</p>
<p>Internal &#8211; 20 402<br />
DDI &#8211; 01656 303471<br />
Mobile &#8211; 07790 630332<br />
E Mail &#8211; <a href="mailto:mark.lynch@south-wales.pnn.police.uk">mark.lynch@south-wales.pnn.police.uk</a></p>
<p>From: David Grothier<br />
Subject: RE: Follow up<br />
To: <a href="mailto:Mark.Lynch@south-wales.pnn.police.uk">Mark.Lynch@south-wales.pnn.police.uk</a><br />
Date: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 4:09 PM</p>
<p>Hello Mark I trust you are well.</p>
<p>I guess it was inevitable that we would eventual clash, you being part of a hopelessly corrupt system which is regrettable, from my point of view.</p>
<p>I am current studying the most effective way to bring South Wales Police to justice for a failure of duty under the Criminal Justice Act 1988 which specifically cover the indictable offences that ARE REGARDED AS COMMITTED through an or an omission.</p>
<p>I have found that the same rules apply to the prosecution of Police Officers as with any other person. I believe that I have provided sufficient admissible evidence to justify commencing proceedings. On the question of sufficiency this includes the normal requirement which is that there must be &#8220;corroboration&#8221;, that is evidence from at least two separate sources to establish the essential facts of the case which are the commission of a crime and the identity of the perpetrator. In addition such evidence as there is must be admissible and reliable and prosecution must be in the public interest which I believe it to be.</p>
<p>Furthermore there is an Appeal Court decision of which I am sure you must be aware in which the appellant who was on duty took no steps to etc etc &#8230;.. HE WAS CHARGED in an indictment with misconduct whilst acting as an officer of justice in that he deliberately failed to carry out his duty&#8230;&#8230; by wilfully omitting to take any steps to&#8230;&#8230;.. bring to justice&#8230;&#8230;. At the trial he objected to the indictment on the grounds that it did not disclose an offence known to the law. The trial judge ruled against the objection and the trial proceeded. The jury returned a verdict of guilty and the appellant was convicted. He appealed against the conviction on the ground that the trial judge erred in ruling that the indictment disclosed an offence known to law. The appellant conceded that at common law there existed an offence of misconduct in public office, but contended that mere nonfeasance by a person in the discharge of his duty as the holder of a public office was insufficient to constitute the offence and there had to be a malfeasance or, at least, a misfeasance involving corruption or fraud.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Court of Appeal HELD:</p>
<p>&#8220;A public officer who wilfully and without reasonable excuse or justification neglected to perform any duty he was bound to perform by common law or statute was indictable for the common law offence of misconduct in public office. The element of culpability required was not restricted to corruption or dishonesty, although it had to be such that the conduct impugned was calculated to injure the public interest and called for punishment. Whether there was such conduct was a matter for the jury on the evidence. Since the indictment alleged deliberate and wilful neglect by the appellant to perform his duty&#8230;&#8230; it disclosed an offence of misconduct in public office. It followed that the judge&#8217;s ruling had been correct and that the appeal would be dismissed&#8221;.</p>
<p>On another occasion, Sir Anthony Clarke, the Master of the Rolls, said the duty of the police to protect was &#8220;not an onerous one&#8221;; and nor was he persuaded that the court&#8217;s ruling would &#8220;threaten police resources&#8221; or &#8220;open the floodgates to baseless claims against the police&#8221;.<br />
&#8220;They should have done everything that could reasonably have been expected of them,&#8221; added the judge.</p>
<p>The above is just a rough outline and to give you notice of my intention. It would be inconceivable in the name of justice and all children that coroners such as Morgan are allowed to escape justice, as it would be for perjuring doctors, also corrupt police such as DPPF who find protection from an equally corrupt IPPC.</p>
<p>It can never be said that each and all we given a fair and equitable opportunity to behave as decent citizens each doing their legal and natural duties,</p>
<p>Sincerely with best wishes David.</p>
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		<title>By: david_grothier</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 19:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ASK OF ALL AND SUNDRY, ASK YOUR MP AND THE PRESS--JUST KEEP ON ASKING--------

WHAT IS THE STATUS OF THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND?

Is she a monarch of a sovereign state, or a subject of the E.U., because she cannot be both.

with acknowledgement to stickwhistker TPDF</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ASK OF ALL AND SUNDRY, ASK YOUR MP AND THE PRESS&#8211;JUST KEEP ON ASKING&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>WHAT IS THE STATUS OF THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND?</p>
<p>Is she a monarch of a sovereign state, or a subject of the E.U., because she cannot be both.</p>
<p>with acknowledgement to stickwhistker TPDF</p>
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		<title>By: Enufs Enuf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Enufs Enuf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Give yourselves a laff......be warned about the bad language but read what many think about gordon brown (small caps intended).....

Read the &#039;live chat&#039; that accompanied his sincerely delivered &#039;speech&#039; to the nuliebore &#039;faithful&#039; (paid rentamob??) at the nuliebore &#039;love in&#039; in Manchester:

http://www.order-order.com/

Sincerity isn&#039;t one of gordy&#039;s strongest points is it - in fact, does he HAVE any strong points??

Rejoice in the knowledge that many &#039;know&#039; about the &#039;real&#039; nwodour agenda....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Give yourselves a laff&#8230;&#8230;be warned about the bad language but read what many think about gordon brown (small caps intended)&#8230;..</p>
<p>Read the &#8216;live chat&#8217; that accompanied his sincerely delivered &#8217;speech&#8217; to the nuliebore &#8216;faithful&#8217; (paid rentamob??) at the nuliebore &#8216;love in&#8217; in Manchester:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.order-order.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.order-order.com/</a></p>
<p>Sincerity isn&#8217;t one of gordy&#8217;s strongest points is it &#8211; in fact, does he HAVE any strong points??</p>
<p>Rejoice in the knowledge that many &#8216;know&#8217; about the &#8216;real&#8217; nwodour agenda&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: david_grothier</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi all Good Morning if I may make a request please?. I would like to get an email address for Geoffrey SCRIVENS.

I understand the authorities have clogged up access to his email address on line. All help greatly appreciated. Many thanks David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all Good Morning if I may make a request please?. I would like to get an email address for Geoffrey SCRIVENS.</p>
<p>I understand the authorities have clogged up access to his email address on line. All help greatly appreciated. Many thanks David</p>
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		<title>By: Peter1945</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 10:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Party faithful&#039;s always were stupid no matter who is or was in power. I am surprised anyone is a member of any political party. But there is just no telling how stupid, stupid  can be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Party faithful&#8217;s always were stupid no matter who is or was in power. I am surprised anyone is a member of any political party. But there is just no telling how stupid, stupid  can be.</p>
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