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		<title>By: Tom Collins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe that &quot;Baron von Lotsov&quot; is quite right.  Yes,  ALL, parties have their in-fighting.  It&#039;s mostly the men and has a lot to do with ego-building and macho outlook.  Also, of course, good old human nature.

The trouble is that the smaller parties, like UKIP, cannot be shown as being troubled internally and it&#039;s up to their hierachy to sort things out and tell EVERYONE, any unfair comments, actions or charges etc. will be dealt with swiftly by giving the culprits the orderof the boot.

If the main aim is to leave the dreaded EU monster, then everyone should pull together, not behave like spiteful kids, trying to score points.  The Labour-Con-LibDem parties clap their hands when they hear or read of internal squabbles in other parties.   Where has commonsense gone ?

Kilroy-Silk nearly finished off UKIP.  They should say, &quot;you&#039;re either for us  -  or agin us&quot;.

All pull together  -  not apart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that &#8220;Baron von Lotsov&#8221; is quite right.  Yes,  ALL, parties have their in-fighting.  It&#8217;s mostly the men and has a lot to do with ego-building and macho outlook.  Also, of course, good old human nature.</p>
<p>The trouble is that the smaller parties, like UKIP, cannot be shown as being troubled internally and it&#8217;s up to their hierachy to sort things out and tell EVERYONE, any unfair comments, actions or charges etc. will be dealt with swiftly by giving the culprits the orderof the boot.</p>
<p>If the main aim is to leave the dreaded EU monster, then everyone should pull together, not behave like spiteful kids, trying to score points.  The Labour-Con-LibDem parties clap their hands when they hear or read of internal squabbles in other parties.   Where has commonsense gone ?</p>
<p>Kilroy-Silk nearly finished off UKIP.  They should say, &#8220;you&#8217;re either for us  &#8211;  or agin us&#8221;.</p>
<p>All pull together  &#8211;  not apart.</p>
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		<title>By: Baron von Lotsov</title>
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		<dc:creator>Baron von Lotsov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 21:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The UKIP keeps getting hit with bad news though. Just the other day someone was prosecuted for some really dodgy sex crimes. Before that there have been prosecutions of prominent UKIPers for things like fraud, even though some appear to be genuinely straight and well respected characters with a huge amount of talent and ability, e.g. their PR guru they had work for them. I&#039;m not certain the reasons, its still a case of investigation in progress, but I&#039;d hazard a guess it is a combination of legal stitch up and infiltration. You often see this sort of thing, e.g. the BNP get a hard time and are the target of organisations like Searchlight and other hardliner Marxist traitors. Both parties have a very legitimate point and they overlap somewhat as well, but the old divide and rule business seems to be played out a lot. I think these small parties should spend more effort attacking the real issue and cut out the infighting. Our country is on the brink of disaster, this should be sufficient for all genuine people whatever party they are in to pull together and destroy the EU before it destroys everyone. We are all on the same sinking ship. However if the Irish can then that should be an example for all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The UKIP keeps getting hit with bad news though. Just the other day someone was prosecuted for some really dodgy sex crimes. Before that there have been prosecutions of prominent UKIPers for things like fraud, even though some appear to be genuinely straight and well respected characters with a huge amount of talent and ability, e.g. their PR guru they had work for them. I&#8217;m not certain the reasons, its still a case of investigation in progress, but I&#8217;d hazard a guess it is a combination of legal stitch up and infiltration. You often see this sort of thing, e.g. the BNP get a hard time and are the target of organisations like Searchlight and other hardliner Marxist traitors. Both parties have a very legitimate point and they overlap somewhat as well, but the old divide and rule business seems to be played out a lot. I think these small parties should spend more effort attacking the real issue and cut out the infighting. Our country is on the brink of disaster, this should be sufficient for all genuine people whatever party they are in to pull together and destroy the EU before it destroys everyone. We are all on the same sinking ship. However if the Irish can then that should be an example for all.</p>
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		<title>By: Life</title>
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		<dc:creator>Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 11:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Editor.
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		<title>By: Tom Collins</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 22:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adi has summed it all up very well.

Apart from the BNP,  the 4th. largest party - UKIP - are the only party demanding withdrawal from the EU

Now, we are told by our government, that we cannot even put the Union Flag over the EU badge on our car number plates !!  Where is our freedom of choice ?  What about our Common Law rights ?

Surely this is right up LIBERTY&#039;S street ?

When will the EU and the euro implode?  Surely this cannot be far off ?

Once TURKEY joins the EU and 70 million people are entitled to move here, then the s... will hit the fan  -  or will it ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adi has summed it all up very well.</p>
<p>Apart from the BNP,  the 4th. largest party &#8211; UKIP &#8211; are the only party demanding withdrawal from the EU</p>
<p>Now, we are told by our government, that we cannot even put the Union Flag over the EU badge on our car number plates !!  Where is our freedom of choice ?  What about our Common Law rights ?</p>
<p>Surely this is right up LIBERTY&#8217;S street ?</p>
<p>When will the EU and the euro implode?  Surely this cannot be far off ?</p>
<p>Once TURKEY joins the EU and 70 million people are entitled to move here, then the s&#8230; will hit the fan  &#8211;  or will it ?</p>
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		<title>By: Adi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 17:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many of the people are still sleepwalking into the Abyss of what the EU is.....And our Political Establishment ,  with the three main Party&#039;s it has control of...is very reticent about telling the people the true objective.     But at last , the people are coming out of the trance or trasitory dream, realizing they have stepped into a crevice.  The pit will undoubtedly be a nightmare if they believe escaping from freedom is not their problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many of the people are still sleepwalking into the Abyss of what the EU is&#8230;..And our Political Establishment ,  with the three main Party&#8217;s it has control of&#8230;is very reticent about telling the people the true objective.     But at last , the people are coming out of the trance or trasitory dream, realizing they have stepped into a crevice.  The pit will undoubtedly be a nightmare if they believe escaping from freedom is not their problem.</p>
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		<title>By: david_grothier</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 10:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tell you what guys, this has to be one of the best informed web sites around.

I mean the whole idea of the Public being Defended is great  I for one am all for it especially knowing as I do  just how the uneducated  subservient British public flock have been skilfully and  totally herded up and penned like sheep for the butcherâ€™s hook.  

If ever there was a nationâ€™s citizens that needed Defending it has to be Britainâ€™sâ€“â€“SADLY I DONâ€™T THINK, UNLESS OF COURSE WE BRING ABOUT A DRASTIC CHANGE, THAT WE WILL EVER SEE THE BULLDOG SPIRIT THAT BROUGHT US THROUGH THE LAST WAR AGAIN.â€“-you cant put John Bull in a sheep!

In fact when I heard that daisy Brown thinks that he can win another election, then I believe we could well be at the point of packing it all in. However since starting this  note there has been a recent conspiracy to assassinate him and Tony Blair as reported by the Beeb. So we have come down to this. Britain has long been a third world nation, now have tin pot banana republic politics where unpopular leaders become targets to go with it! But to me its just a logical progression as we drift further into an inevitable state of open revolt. However when the crunch comes no politician can say they were never warned to get their houses in order, do the jobs they were elected to do and serve the people with intelligence dedication and dignity , instead of the shabby performance they lick down to us.

One of the biggest insults to the people of this nation must be the blatant audacity of MPs in not declaring their expenses!!Â´Â´Â´JUST WHO DO THESE PEOPLE THINK THEY ARE!. 

I will regret if in fact we do see those rivers of blood, it would be a disaster for this nation as all that is needed to stop the obviously impending flow, IS AN HONEST COMMITMENT TO  OPENNESS AND HONESTY AND A DEDICATION TO SERVE TO NATION PROPERLY, FOR THIS AND SUCCESSIVE GOVERNMENTS..

I am strong and  honest enough to put my hand upon heart, and with full knowledge of just how deeply corrupt Britain has become, openly state that should there be an all out opposition to the prevailing evil control that we are now forced to endure. We should all enter a phase of passive civil disobedience, trust that government will wake up to their follies and potential disaster thereof.

The power has always rested with the people and I further believe that we now all have a GOD given duty to awaken the people of Britain to the perils we all face, if we as a nation carry on following this path we are forced to tread,


However this web site does offer a glimmer of hope, but I mean a just a glimmer and without care and nurturing it a glimmer that  could be blown out ever so easily.

Correct me if I am wrong, but  John Harris, Brian Garrish, Albert Burgess, fine fellows that they are have all been expounded their  essential massages for some time, and sadly we donâ€™t seem to be seeing the kind of overwhelming response that we would definitely need to see â€“-that is if they and we all are  to make a significance progress in getting the all essential public support that we need to move forward and end the looney madness that is now controlling   our Britain

This lack of overwhelming support  means one of serval things ie, that either the message right and  is not getting across, or the message is wrong and we may as well all go home, or itâ€™s the totally disinterested  public, who as usual donâ€™t give a toss for their fate.

However, I believe the message is right, the right one for the benefit of all, expect the political abusers. Therefore I think we all need to concentrate on the best way of getting it to the general publicâ€“-and fast before the Treaty of Lisbon catches us with our pants down.

Without a the support of the public neither John, Albert nor Brian, or any of us will get  anywhere.. The public holds the key, they always do, and after all Defending the Public IS ALL ABOUT THE PUBLIC!

So where then are we going wrongâ€“-simple really!â€“â€“â€“â€“ Should we not, under the banner of Defending the Pubic start addressing the numerous pressing issues that affect their daily lives and make simply liveâ€“a living hell!.

Most people I have spoken to think that the Magna Cart is a new brand of ice creamâ€“-thatâ€™s should give you all an idea of the task we all face. Of people donâ€™t know what cradles the very existence of their basic Human Rightsâ€“HOW WILL THEY UNDERSTAND THE STEPS NEEDED TO PRESERVE SUCH RIGHTS?


Most people donâ€™t even care about Common Purpose simply as they are not aware of it. And Brianâ€™s video as good as it is, is preaching to the converted as they know Common Purpose and its evil. The rank and file whom I speak to where the message needs to got toâ€“-do not! As said they have in generalâ€“NOT HEARD OF COMMON PURPOSE.

Therefore if this government, and the people in the shadows of the halls of power in  Whitehall, and other obscure places are able to keep the public in the darkâ€“they remain safe to continue doing what they do bestâ€“-oppressing the people by slowly eroding their rights and the ability to protest. (note the increasing so called anti terror laws?).

There are so many people aware of the cause we fight, look at the number of dissenting web sites, check out the videos and contributions on the PUBLIC DEFENDER SITE.

The skill now has to be pulling all these dedicated people together under one umbrella,


IF THERE IS NO RANK AND FILE OPPOSITION TO THESE LUDICROUS GOVERNMENT POLICESâ€“â€“   THERE NO OPPOSITIONâ€“NONE AND THEY CONTINUE TO WALK ALL OVER US.

This winter id going to be tough for many, most of all out pensioners, who will be forced to chose between heating and eating and other essentials.

They key. I believe is now to form our own BRAND NEW Political Party and take to the road, the village halls and community centres and all other available venues and appeal to the nationâ€™s hard pressed citizensâ€“tell them in no uncertain that they are hard pressed because of the utter incompetence and stupidity of this government who are abusing each and every one of the people through wasting millions in any event, but squandering BILLIONS fighting the USAâ€™s wars.

If this happens please at all costs keep the message as simple but as honest as you can. I sense the people of Britain are up to their eyeballs with idiotic gobbledygook who ever spouts it.

Look at these basic issues that are hitting people hard and will do more so this winter. 




Scottish and Southern Energy (SSE), which has 8.8m UK customers, is raising gas prices by 29.2% and average electricity costs by 19.2% from Monday. E.On earlier unveiled rises of 26% and 16% in gas and electricity prices respectively!
These outrageous  price hikes follow similar moves from British Gas and EDF last month.
This means that the average dual fuel customer would see annual bills rise by Â£253 a year to Â£1259.
E.On&#039;s hikes will see customers who take both gas and electricity pay Â£1226 - an extra Â£227 


The excuse government is using to allow these scandalous, over the official rate of inflation, price hikes is that the world is experiencing an energy shock of a kind not seen since the early 1970s. 

THIS IS RUBBISH AS A PRUDENT GOVERNMENT COULD BALANCE TO BOOKS TO ENSURE THAT THE LONG SUFFERING PUBLIC DOES NOT PAY!
I could do this efficiently and effectively and I am a nobody, yet I can produce economic models that would not only bring prices, down but taxes as well.

Please all of you please take a look at this movie clips it has a very poignant message if you hear the wordâ€“-as once we have paid our taxes, fought in warsâ€“thatâ€™s us allâ€“Forgotten men! 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37-ocetYDdU</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tell you what guys, this has to be one of the best informed web sites around.</p>
<p>I mean the whole idea of the Public being Defended is great  I for one am all for it especially knowing as I do  just how the uneducated  subservient British public flock have been skilfully and  totally herded up and penned like sheep for the butcherâ€™s hook.  </p>
<p>If ever there was a nationâ€™s citizens that needed Defending it has to be Britainâ€™sâ€“â€“SADLY I DONâ€™T THINK, UNLESS OF COURSE WE BRING ABOUT A DRASTIC CHANGE, THAT WE WILL EVER SEE THE BULLDOG SPIRIT THAT BROUGHT US THROUGH THE LAST WAR AGAIN.â€“-you cant put John Bull in a sheep!</p>
<p>In fact when I heard that daisy Brown thinks that he can win another election, then I believe we could well be at the point of packing it all in. However since starting this  note there has been a recent conspiracy to assassinate him and Tony Blair as reported by the Beeb. So we have come down to this. Britain has long been a third world nation, now have tin pot banana republic politics where unpopular leaders become targets to go with it! But to me its just a logical progression as we drift further into an inevitable state of open revolt. However when the crunch comes no politician can say they were never warned to get their houses in order, do the jobs they were elected to do and serve the people with intelligence dedication and dignity , instead of the shabby performance they lick down to us.</p>
<p>One of the biggest insults to the people of this nation must be the blatant audacity of MPs in not declaring their expenses!!Â´Â´Â´JUST WHO DO THESE PEOPLE THINK THEY ARE!. </p>
<p>I will regret if in fact we do see those rivers of blood, it would be a disaster for this nation as all that is needed to stop the obviously impending flow, IS AN HONEST COMMITMENT TO  OPENNESS AND HONESTY AND A DEDICATION TO SERVE TO NATION PROPERLY, FOR THIS AND SUCCESSIVE GOVERNMENTS..</p>
<p>I am strong and  honest enough to put my hand upon heart, and with full knowledge of just how deeply corrupt Britain has become, openly state that should there be an all out opposition to the prevailing evil control that we are now forced to endure. We should all enter a phase of passive civil disobedience, trust that government will wake up to their follies and potential disaster thereof.</p>
<p>The power has always rested with the people and I further believe that we now all have a GOD given duty to awaken the people of Britain to the perils we all face, if we as a nation carry on following this path we are forced to tread,</p>
<p>However this web site does offer a glimmer of hope, but I mean a just a glimmer and without care and nurturing it a glimmer that  could be blown out ever so easily.</p>
<p>Correct me if I am wrong, but  John Harris, Brian Garrish, Albert Burgess, fine fellows that they are have all been expounded their  essential massages for some time, and sadly we donâ€™t seem to be seeing the kind of overwhelming response that we would definitely need to see â€“-that is if they and we all are  to make a significance progress in getting the all essential public support that we need to move forward and end the looney madness that is now controlling   our Britain</p>
<p>This lack of overwhelming support  means one of serval things ie, that either the message right and  is not getting across, or the message is wrong and we may as well all go home, or itâ€™s the totally disinterested  public, who as usual donâ€™t give a toss for their fate.</p>
<p>However, I believe the message is right, the right one for the benefit of all, expect the political abusers. Therefore I think we all need to concentrate on the best way of getting it to the general publicâ€“-and fast before the Treaty of Lisbon catches us with our pants down.</p>
<p>Without a the support of the public neither John, Albert nor Brian, or any of us will get  anywhere.. The public holds the key, they always do, and after all Defending the Public IS ALL ABOUT THE PUBLIC!</p>
<p>So where then are we going wrongâ€“-simple really!â€“â€“â€“â€“ Should we not, under the banner of Defending the Pubic start addressing the numerous pressing issues that affect their daily lives and make simply liveâ€“a living hell!.</p>
<p>Most people I have spoken to think that the Magna Cart is a new brand of ice creamâ€“-thatâ€™s should give you all an idea of the task we all face. Of people donâ€™t know what cradles the very existence of their basic Human Rightsâ€“HOW WILL THEY UNDERSTAND THE STEPS NEEDED TO PRESERVE SUCH RIGHTS?</p>
<p>Most people donâ€™t even care about Common Purpose simply as they are not aware of it. And Brianâ€™s video as good as it is, is preaching to the converted as they know Common Purpose and its evil. The rank and file whom I speak to where the message needs to got toâ€“-do not! As said they have in generalâ€“NOT HEARD OF COMMON PURPOSE.</p>
<p>Therefore if this government, and the people in the shadows of the halls of power in  Whitehall, and other obscure places are able to keep the public in the darkâ€“they remain safe to continue doing what they do bestâ€“-oppressing the people by slowly eroding their rights and the ability to protest. (note the increasing so called anti terror laws?).</p>
<p>There are so many people aware of the cause we fight, look at the number of dissenting web sites, check out the videos and contributions on the PUBLIC DEFENDER SITE.</p>
<p>The skill now has to be pulling all these dedicated people together under one umbrella,</p>
<p>IF THERE IS NO RANK AND FILE OPPOSITION TO THESE LUDICROUS GOVERNMENT POLICESâ€“â€“   THERE NO OPPOSITIONâ€“NONE AND THEY CONTINUE TO WALK ALL OVER US.</p>
<p>This winter id going to be tough for many, most of all out pensioners, who will be forced to chose between heating and eating and other essentials.</p>
<p>They key. I believe is now to form our own BRAND NEW Political Party and take to the road, the village halls and community centres and all other available venues and appeal to the nationâ€™s hard pressed citizensâ€“tell them in no uncertain that they are hard pressed because of the utter incompetence and stupidity of this government who are abusing each and every one of the people through wasting millions in any event, but squandering BILLIONS fighting the USAâ€™s wars.</p>
<p>If this happens please at all costs keep the message as simple but as honest as you can. I sense the people of Britain are up to their eyeballs with idiotic gobbledygook who ever spouts it.</p>
<p>Look at these basic issues that are hitting people hard and will do more so this winter. </p>
<p>Scottish and Southern Energy (SSE), which has 8.8m UK customers, is raising gas prices by 29.2% and average electricity costs by 19.2% from Monday. E.On earlier unveiled rises of 26% and 16% in gas and electricity prices respectively!<br />
These outrageous  price hikes follow similar moves from British Gas and EDF last month.<br />
This means that the average dual fuel customer would see annual bills rise by Â£253 a year to Â£1259.<br />
E.On&#8217;s hikes will see customers who take both gas and electricity pay Â£1226 &#8211; an extra Â£227 </p>
<p>The excuse government is using to allow these scandalous, over the official rate of inflation, price hikes is that the world is experiencing an energy shock of a kind not seen since the early 1970s. </p>
<p>THIS IS RUBBISH AS A PRUDENT GOVERNMENT COULD BALANCE TO BOOKS TO ENSURE THAT THE LONG SUFFERING PUBLIC DOES NOT PAY!<br />
I could do this efficiently and effectively and I am a nobody, yet I can produce economic models that would not only bring prices, down but taxes as well.</p>
<p>Please all of you please take a look at this movie clips it has a very poignant message if you hear the wordâ€“-as once we have paid our taxes, fought in warsâ€“thatâ€™s us allâ€“Forgotten men! </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37-ocetYDdU" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37-ocetYDdU</a></p>
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		<title>By: david_grothier</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 09:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well people could this be the start of open EU policing throughout the Union and into the EUâ€™s satellite countries will we now see the revaluation of the Orwellian Fist of Steel, or should that be the New Gestapo Grip?

Today the unelected European Union foreign ministers agreed, without reference to BritainÂ¡s public to raise the role of the organization in Georgia, including the possible dispatch of EU peace monitors to firm up the fragile peace deal between Russia and Georgia. Of course this puts the average Brit into confrontation with the average Ruskie without even knowing itâ€“â€“-great way to start a war, no one knows they did, as heads are still in page three or the back pages, until BANG!!

The Poles now obviously way too far up Bushâ€™s backside to see the light of common sense had their  Foreign Minister, Radoslaw Sikorski tell a news conference that his country was in favour of putting peacekeeping forces into the disputed enclaves&quot; of South Ossetia and Abkhazia all the while the the most â€œAimiable AMERICANSâ€ stick their Patriot missiles  Polandâ€“-all nice and cosy like!!!


The French said the EU was determined to &quot;act on the ground.&quot; ( well the French are good on their backs), while David Miliband, said four key principles were at the heart of a statement released by the EU

Miliband, said and get this:

...first of all that force is not the basis for deciding on international relations in the modern world. (Not half Mate this is the first step into the open)
Secondly, that the territorial integrity of countries needs to be respected. ( mmhh arrr yes like we did in Iraq)
Thirdly, that democratically elected governments can not be undermined. ( Tough one thatâ€¦but wait what about EIRE?)
And fourthly, that international law must be respected.( OMG. PUKE, PUKE, PUKE, since when did Britian respect international law, lets see nowâ€“ahhh yes mmmhhhhâ€“-SUEZ! Or do you want more examples).

Georgia appealed to the European Union on Monday to freeze its &quot;strategic partnership&quot; talks with Russia unless Moscow halts its military campaign. But when Poland appalled to Britain in 1939 to honour its Treaty with them  Britain gave half of Poland to Russiaâ€“â€“well what so different now? 

I like Putin, at least you know where you stand with the manâ€¦fine chap that he is, and being able to see right through the EU as well!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well people could this be the start of open EU policing throughout the Union and into the EUâ€™s satellite countries will we now see the revaluation of the Orwellian Fist of Steel, or should that be the New Gestapo Grip?</p>
<p>Today the unelected European Union foreign ministers agreed, without reference to BritainÂ¡s public to raise the role of the organization in Georgia, including the possible dispatch of EU peace monitors to firm up the fragile peace deal between Russia and Georgia. Of course this puts the average Brit into confrontation with the average Ruskie without even knowing itâ€“â€“-great way to start a war, no one knows they did, as heads are still in page three or the back pages, until BANG!!</p>
<p>The Poles now obviously way too far up Bushâ€™s backside to see the light of common sense had their  Foreign Minister, Radoslaw Sikorski tell a news conference that his country was in favour of putting peacekeeping forces into the disputed enclaves&#8221; of South Ossetia and Abkhazia all the while the the most â€œAimiable AMERICANSâ€ stick their Patriot missiles  Polandâ€“-all nice and cosy like!!!</p>
<p>The French said the EU was determined to &#8220;act on the ground.&#8221; ( well the French are good on their backs), while David Miliband, said four key principles were at the heart of a statement released by the EU</p>
<p>Miliband, said and get this:</p>
<p>&#8230;first of all that force is not the basis for deciding on international relations in the modern world. (Not half Mate this is the first step into the open)<br />
Secondly, that the territorial integrity of countries needs to be respected. ( mmhh arrr yes like we did in Iraq)<br />
Thirdly, that democratically elected governments can not be undermined. ( Tough one thatâ€¦but wait what about EIRE?)<br />
And fourthly, that international law must be respected.( OMG. PUKE, PUKE, PUKE, since when did Britian respect international law, lets see nowâ€“ahhh yes mmmhhhhâ€“-SUEZ! Or do you want more examples).</p>
<p>Georgia appealed to the European Union on Monday to freeze its &#8220;strategic partnership&#8221; talks with Russia unless Moscow halts its military campaign. But when Poland appalled to Britain in 1939 to honour its Treaty with them  Britain gave half of Poland to Russiaâ€“â€“well what so different now? </p>
<p>I like Putin, at least you know where you stand with the manâ€¦fine chap that he is, and being able to see right through the EU as well!</p>
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		<title>By: david_grothier</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OOOOOPPPPPPPsssssssssss sorry it should be daviddegrothier1@yahoo.com

Put an &quot;i&quot; to many in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OOOOOPPPPPPPsssssssssss sorry it should be <a href="mailto:daviddegrothier1@yahoo.com">daviddegrothier1@yahoo.com</a></p>
<p>Put an &#8220;i&#8221; to many in.</p>
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		<title>By: William</title>
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		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,

Your email is not activated.  Please compute.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p>Your email is not activated.  Please compute.</p>
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		<title>By: david_grothier</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 08:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS While they continue merrily to PEE on us.</description>
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		<title>By: david_grothier</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 08:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THAT OBVIOUSLY BEING SO TRUE--THEN WHY DO YOU NOT PUBLISH YOUR NAME AND CONTACT DETAILS AND HOW YOU WOULD PROPOSE TO MOVE FORWARD ON THESE SERIOUS ISSUES.

I am Mr David Grothier

My Email is daviiddegrothier1@yahoo.com

Dont you think its time now for our openess and bonding together as UNITED WE STAND dived we just PEE in the wind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THAT OBVIOUSLY BEING SO TRUE&#8211;THEN WHY DO YOU NOT PUBLISH YOUR NAME AND CONTACT DETAILS AND HOW YOU WOULD PROPOSE TO MOVE FORWARD ON THESE SERIOUS ISSUES.</p>
<p>I am Mr David Grothier</p>
<p>My Email is <a href="mailto:daviiddegrothier1@yahoo.com">daviiddegrothier1@yahoo.com</a></p>
<p>Dont you think its time now for our openess and bonding together as UNITED WE STAND dived we just PEE in the wind.</p>
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		<title>By: the log cabin</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 00:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UK should know that within the US some are aware of what Mr. Gerrish is saying. 

Furthermore it is because of his outstanding charachter that all pertinent facts are evaluated.

Mr. Gerrish is 100% and good to go.  

Mr. Gerrish is the top man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UK should know that within the US some are aware of what Mr. Gerrish is saying. </p>
<p>Furthermore it is because of his outstanding charachter that all pertinent facts are evaluated.</p>
<p>Mr. Gerrish is 100% and good to go.  </p>
<p>Mr. Gerrish is the top man.</p>
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		<title>By: David_Grothier</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 09:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some thoughts---

I have no doubt that this is going to be a very hard winter for many. 

We are already faced with an extra 27 quid on the weekly shopping basket. 

Rises gas and electric prices, yes water rates too. 

Pump price may begin to fall but they are still a cause for concern. council taxes, credit crunch, business failures and other worrying factors that make your pound cringe and shrink in your purse.

All the while local and national government services seem to shrink in sympathy with your pound! 

You end paying more with less, and getting less for what you pay!  A sure fired recipe for a grave social disaster.

Now folks to add  further insult to your injuries, please let me sayâ€¦.. or perhaps alert you would be more appropriate to the fact that while you struggle to pay your way, civil servants national and local from the lower middle grade up are living high of the hog at your expense.--------BETTER PUT THEY ARE LIVING OFF YOUR BACKS!

They work shorter hours than most, have more holidays than most, do as little as possible have preferential pension rights and medical care benefits etc, etc, and always remain ahead of the game!

And they do so  for delivering less. 

This is a fact of life, and a look around your locality, let alone the general state of the nation, will illuminate what I state.

Ever thought why when you ring someone in your local council they always seem to be in meetings or training sessions? 

With that amount of meetings and training sessions we should all be wisely governed and living in a paradise!â€“

Ever thought why we are notâ€™â€“â€“â€“â€“â€“â€“-Answer Common Purpose is alive and working well!

As it has  been  rightly point out by Veronica here on the Columnâ€“â€“ â€œWe need some way of directly contacting/supporting each other. We need some way of opening it up.

Iâ€™ve been at pains to stress that it does not need 35 million (adults). It only needs â€˜as many a possibleâ€™ - even if that is a small handful - provided they are dedicated and mutually supportive.â€

I would suggest as a possible first step forward would be for groups of dedicated people in each local administrative district start to questioning the salaries of council officials, and the cost to the public purse of their overall employment package. 

Question what edacity they to  â€œearnâ€ such a wondrous gift from the public purseâ€¦and keep on questioning until you get the answers that  you needâ€“-Then compare these excessive amount, pro rata, with what each individual in your community pays in council taxes and the, â€œlack of,â€ services they get in return.

I am quite sure that you will find a wall of resistance from officialdom. However that should be seem of a good thing, as the higher the resistance open honesty in  the provision of information that should be in the public domain in any eventâ€“-the greater the public determination to break such resistance will be.

Our ultimate weapon is non violent social disobedienceâ€“-this should be seem as being in direct resistance to the Common Purpose subliminal non violent subjugation of the nation that is taking place as I write.

Imagine a country where all the local town hall steps are blocked with peaceful protesters, mothers, grannies children etcâ€“-they cant lock them all up cam they, besides if they break no laws there would be no need to take that step would there?

You can bet you life if that this took place, government and Common Purpose would feel a few shivers.

Just something to think over before our inaction displayed to date ensures that many 1000s will suffer this winter, and even more of us long term.

United we &quot;WILL&quot; make a difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some thoughts&#8212;</p>
<p>I have no doubt that this is going to be a very hard winter for many. </p>
<p>We are already faced with an extra 27 quid on the weekly shopping basket. </p>
<p>Rises gas and electric prices, yes water rates too. </p>
<p>Pump price may begin to fall but they are still a cause for concern. council taxes, credit crunch, business failures and other worrying factors that make your pound cringe and shrink in your purse.</p>
<p>All the while local and national government services seem to shrink in sympathy with your pound! </p>
<p>You end paying more with less, and getting less for what you pay!  A sure fired recipe for a grave social disaster.</p>
<p>Now folks to add  further insult to your injuries, please let me sayâ€¦.. or perhaps alert you would be more appropriate to the fact that while you struggle to pay your way, civil servants national and local from the lower middle grade up are living high of the hog at your expense.&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;BETTER PUT THEY ARE LIVING OFF YOUR BACKS!</p>
<p>They work shorter hours than most, have more holidays than most, do as little as possible have preferential pension rights and medical care benefits etc, etc, and always remain ahead of the game!</p>
<p>And they do so  for delivering less. </p>
<p>This is a fact of life, and a look around your locality, let alone the general state of the nation, will illuminate what I state.</p>
<p>Ever thought why when you ring someone in your local council they always seem to be in meetings or training sessions? </p>
<p>With that amount of meetings and training sessions we should all be wisely governed and living in a paradise!â€“</p>
<p>Ever thought why we are notâ€™â€“â€“â€“â€“â€“â€“-Answer Common Purpose is alive and working well!</p>
<p>As it has  been  rightly point out by Veronica here on the Columnâ€“â€“ â€œWe need some way of directly contacting/supporting each other. We need some way of opening it up.</p>
<p>Iâ€™ve been at pains to stress that it does not need 35 million (adults). It only needs â€˜as many a possibleâ€™ &#8211; even if that is a small handful &#8211; provided they are dedicated and mutually supportive.â€</p>
<p>I would suggest as a possible first step forward would be for groups of dedicated people in each local administrative district start to questioning the salaries of council officials, and the cost to the public purse of their overall employment package. </p>
<p>Question what edacity they to  â€œearnâ€ such a wondrous gift from the public purseâ€¦and keep on questioning until you get the answers that  you needâ€“-Then compare these excessive amount, pro rata, with what each individual in your community pays in council taxes and the, â€œlack of,â€ services they get in return.</p>
<p>I am quite sure that you will find a wall of resistance from officialdom. However that should be seem of a good thing, as the higher the resistance open honesty in  the provision of information that should be in the public domain in any eventâ€“-the greater the public determination to break such resistance will be.</p>
<p>Our ultimate weapon is non violent social disobedienceâ€“-this should be seem as being in direct resistance to the Common Purpose subliminal non violent subjugation of the nation that is taking place as I write.</p>
<p>Imagine a country where all the local town hall steps are blocked with peaceful protesters, mothers, grannies children etcâ€“-they cant lock them all up cam they, besides if they break no laws there would be no need to take that step would there?</p>
<p>You can bet you life if that this took place, government and Common Purpose would feel a few shivers.</p>
<p>Just something to think over before our inaction displayed to date ensures that many 1000s will suffer this winter, and even more of us long term.</p>
<p>United we &#8220;WILL&#8221; make a difference.</p>
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		<title>By: David_Grothier</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 20:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hello Veronica my email is daviddegrothier1@yahoo.com. I will do what I am needed to do!

I will no longer sit back and take this rubbish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hello Veronica my email is <a href="mailto:daviddegrothier1@yahoo.com">daviddegrothier1@yahoo.com</a>. I will do what I am needed to do!</p>
<p>I will no longer sit back and take this rubbish.</p>
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		<title>By: Veronica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Veronica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear David Grothier,

Well, good for you.

Perhaps we need a website *specifically dedicated* to those who wish to declare they are in lawful rebellion?

I know about John Harris&#039;s site of course, but there is more going on there than a pledge (or whatever is necessary) to declare others in lawful rebellion. It must be necessary to state it more simply than his affidavits.

We need some way of directly contacting/supporting each other. We need some way of opening it up.

I&#039;ve been at pains to stress that it does not need 35 million (adults). It only needs &#039;as many a possible&#039; - even if that is a small handful - provided they are dedicated and mutually supportive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear David Grothier,</p>
<p>Well, good for you.</p>
<p>Perhaps we need a website *specifically dedicated* to those who wish to declare they are in lawful rebellion?</p>
<p>I know about John Harris&#8217;s site of course, but there is more going on there than a pledge (or whatever is necessary) to declare others in lawful rebellion. It must be necessary to state it more simply than his affidavits.</p>
<p>We need some way of directly contacting/supporting each other. We need some way of opening it up.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been at pains to stress that it does not need 35 million (adults). It only needs &#8216;as many a possible&#8217; &#8211; even if that is a small handful &#8211; provided they are dedicated and mutually supportive.</p>
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		<title>By: David_Grothier</title>
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		<dc:creator>David_Grothier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 11:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As you know I have declared myself in law full rebellion---I have been previously tested and the authorities know they cannot break my will and I am pushing forward all all my atattcking fronts and making some progress as Kate knows.

We now need nation wide unity to topple this abominable system. I will be called to do whatever it takes!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As you know I have declared myself in law full rebellion&#8212;I have been previously tested and the authorities know they cannot break my will and I am pushing forward all all my atattcking fronts and making some progress as Kate knows.</p>
<p>We now need nation wide unity to topple this abominable system. I will be called to do whatever it takes!</p>
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		<title>By: Veronica</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 10:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have a Referendum on the EU (and everything else).

We always have it, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

All it takes is for a group of people to have the resolve to &#039;vote with their feet&#039;, and NOT CO-OPERATE.

(And, I said previously, it only takes a relatively small, dedicated, handful)

The more &#039;publicly&#039; you do it the better. They can&#039;t stand exposure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have a Referendum on the EU (and everything else).</p>
<p>We always have it, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.</p>
<p>All it takes is for a group of people to have the resolve to &#8216;vote with their feet&#8217;, and NOT CO-OPERATE.</p>
<p>(And, I said previously, it only takes a relatively small, dedicated, handful)</p>
<p>The more &#8216;publicly&#8217; you do it the better. They can&#8217;t stand exposure.</p>
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		<title>By: Veronica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Veronica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 10:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David Grothier,

What you have to do is to be prepared to sacrifice your body (because there are too many of &#039;them&#039; to fight physically), on the basis of making sure they never get what they truly want - your mind, your will, your compliance.

Having spent a month &#039;inside&#039;, in 1993, for refusing to pay the Poll Tax, I actually know what I&#039;m talking about. Sure, they got my body but no - I did not capitulate.

Understand this: The myth of the Poll Tax Riots contributing to the downfall of that tax is complete rubbish. The aggression in those riots was fermented by Agents Provocateurs.

What caused its downfall was one thing, and one thing only: Money.

1) The 19 billion spent on implementing it.

2) The fact that it cost Â£2,500 per week, PER PERSON, to keep someone in jail. (Must be something like Â£3,500 today. And, don&#039;t forget, 65% of inmates are there ON REMAND i.e. just because some guy wearing a stupid wig thinks they might abscond)

3) The fact that, by thinking outside the box, it was possible to ensure that something like Â£8,000 - Â£9,000 would be spent on &#039;getting you to prison&#039;.

4) The resolve of a few of us (about 1,000 all told) to be jailed every year from then onwards.

(This apart from the fact that - in my case - the bill was Â£532, and the cost of getting me to jail was - I estimate - about Â£13,000)

Think &quot;Norman Laws&quot; (that&#039;s his name ...lovely guy). 70 years old, saying &quot;I didn&#039;t fight in WWII to be enslaved by this Poll Tax&quot;. So they gave him 3 months. Following year, at 71, they gave him 6 months. Following year, at 72, they gave him 9 months. They didn&#039;t break him, though.

Conclusion: Come what may it only takes few who have the resolve to fight in &#039;lawful rebellion&#039; by simple non-cooperation.

Example: There was talk about fining people Â£2,500 for failing to comply with the ID Card rules. Personally I laughed at that. (Typical &#039;Blunkett&#039; mentality). The answer is childishly simple: Don&#039;t pay. Be prepared to go to prison for your conscience. Make THEM pay (they won&#039;t like it, big-time! But, eventually, the futility of it will dawn on their addled brains)

Can you imagine the bravery of the Conscientious Objectors who stood on their own two feet, and were tried and shot for &#039;cowardice&#039;? (To be prepared to be shot dead just because they did not agree with killing other people for no reason?). They had more bravery in one big toe than the entire Military Court and &#039;organisation&#039; behind it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Grothier,</p>
<p>What you have to do is to be prepared to sacrifice your body (because there are too many of &#8216;them&#8217; to fight physically), on the basis of making sure they never get what they truly want &#8211; your mind, your will, your compliance.</p>
<p>Having spent a month &#8216;inside&#8217;, in 1993, for refusing to pay the Poll Tax, I actually know what I&#8217;m talking about. Sure, they got my body but no &#8211; I did not capitulate.</p>
<p>Understand this: The myth of the Poll Tax Riots contributing to the downfall of that tax is complete rubbish. The aggression in those riots was fermented by Agents Provocateurs.</p>
<p>What caused its downfall was one thing, and one thing only: Money.</p>
<p>1) The 19 billion spent on implementing it.</p>
<p>2) The fact that it cost Â£2,500 per week, PER PERSON, to keep someone in jail. (Must be something like Â£3,500 today. And, don&#8217;t forget, 65% of inmates are there ON REMAND i.e. just because some guy wearing a stupid wig thinks they might abscond)</p>
<p>3) The fact that, by thinking outside the box, it was possible to ensure that something like Â£8,000 &#8211; Â£9,000 would be spent on &#8216;getting you to prison&#8217;.</p>
<p>4) The resolve of a few of us (about 1,000 all told) to be jailed every year from then onwards.</p>
<p>(This apart from the fact that &#8211; in my case &#8211; the bill was Â£532, and the cost of getting me to jail was &#8211; I estimate &#8211; about Â£13,000)</p>
<p>Think &#8220;Norman Laws&#8221; (that&#8217;s his name &#8230;lovely guy). 70 years old, saying &#8220;I didn&#8217;t fight in WWII to be enslaved by this Poll Tax&#8221;. So they gave him 3 months. Following year, at 71, they gave him 6 months. Following year, at 72, they gave him 9 months. They didn&#8217;t break him, though.</p>
<p>Conclusion: Come what may it only takes few who have the resolve to fight in &#8216;lawful rebellion&#8217; by simple non-cooperation.</p>
<p>Example: There was talk about fining people Â£2,500 for failing to comply with the ID Card rules. Personally I laughed at that. (Typical &#8216;Blunkett&#8217; mentality). The answer is childishly simple: Don&#8217;t pay. Be prepared to go to prison for your conscience. Make THEM pay (they won&#8217;t like it, big-time! But, eventually, the futility of it will dawn on their addled brains)</p>
<p>Can you imagine the bravery of the Conscientious Objectors who stood on their own two feet, and were tried and shot for &#8216;cowardice&#8217;? (To be prepared to be shot dead just because they did not agree with killing other people for no reason?). They had more bravery in one big toe than the entire Military Court and &#8216;organisation&#8217; behind it.</p>
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