The EU Dictatorship

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Apr 22nd 2008
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Communism is supposedly a Russian, Chinese sort of thing. At least this is what most people have been led to think. Like many views foisted upon us, this too is also incorrect. The simple truth about communism is that it was designed and built in England, albeit with the use of immigrant labour. This of course at a time when we still built things. Who, for instance, do you think paid for that half-wit Marx to sit on his tush for 20 years grinding out his dozy manifesto at the British Lending Library? Answers on a postcard please to . . .

The ultimate capitalists ultimately back communism. They ought to, they paid for it (using money stolen from the masses via usury based central banking systems) and want it above all other things. It lays the foundation for the globalist feudal society they are seeking to bring about via their useful idiots in the EU and soon, no doubt, the NAU (North American Union).

The following article by Lord Christoper Monckton, former policy advisor to Margaret Thatcher, recently appeared in Executive Intelligence Review. It clearly articulates some of the key aspects of the erosion of Britain under the retarded ideology that is socialism. A good primer for anyone coming to this for the first time as well as for those more seasoned in their understanding.

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“EU’s Lisbon Treaty Means Dictatorship”

by Lord Christopher Monckton

With the fall of the Berlin Wall, the Communist species of fascism has spread westward by stealth to infect the European Union, whose complex treaties—now hated and feared by the overtaxed, over-regulated peoples of Europe—more closely parallel the Soviet Constitution than they do any constitution of liberty or democracy. . . .

The new “President of Europe” (it may well be Tony Blair, who did his best to buy the job at UK taxpayers’ expense by agreeing to increase the UK’s tribute to the dismal empire of Brussels by a staggering $50 billion a year) will have all the powers of the General Secretary of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union. The European Commission, like the Politburo to which it is functionally identical, has the sole power to propose and hence to reject European legislation. Like the Politburo, it is unelected and self-perpetuating. Any Commissioner (and it is neither joke nor coincidence that the German word for “Commissioner” is “Kommissar”) has the power to issue an edict which has the immediate force of supreme law throughout the subject territories, no longer known as “member States” but as “regions”—effectively, regional Soviets subsidiary to, and now utterly subservient to, the Supreme Soviet in Brussels. The European Parliament, like the Duma or People’s Congress of the Soviet Union, has no power to propose legislation, and its decisions can be (and often are) overridden by the Kommissars.

The Parliaments of the “regions,” such as the UK Parliament, have no power to amend or reject any of the Kommissars’ edicts, whose undemocratic nature may be deduced from their official name—”Directives.” On 200 occasions in the past decade alone, the legislative scrutiny committee of the House of Commons has rejected European directives, but the functionally-Communist regional gauleiters Blair and [British Prime Minister Gordon] Brown have enacted every one of the Directives, regardless of the will of the people’s elected representatives.

Civil Rights Trampled

As of last December, the power which I once had as a Deputy Lieutenant of London to order the troops on to the streets to assist in civil emergencies or disasters was taken away by order of a Kommissar, and Britain no longer has the legal right put her army on to her own streets without that Kommissar’s express permission. As of this year, under the pretext of compliance with a European anti-terrorist Directive, the right to a fair trial before a properly-constituted and impartial court was abolished in the UK for any criminal case defined as “serious”: and even offences as trivial as dropping litter in public places are now treated by the regional gauleiters as serious. Without a hearing, without the right of legal representation, the gauleiters can imprison any UK citizen for five years at a time, confiscate his house, freeze his bank accounts, close or compulsorily take over any business which he may own, or extradite him to any overseas country (including the most unspeakable dictatorships) even in the absence of any prima facie evidence whatsoever against him.

The news media say little about any of this, for it is now regarded as almost an offense to speak out against the gauleiters or against the European dictatorship, which in any event deploys an annual propaganda budget of $2.5 billion — an amount of which the late Dr. Goebbels could only dream. The BBC alone received $300 million from the Kommissars last year. It very seldom utters a word of criticism against the European Union. What do the British people think about this?

The few who know about it — and it is no coincidence that they are the same few who know what a false and dishonest scam the “global warming” scare is—are horrified. The people as a whole are now so uneasy about what is happening that, even though few know the full details, they are now making it clear in every opinion poll that they do not want the Lisbon Treaty. Indeed, it is now certain that if there were a referendum on the Treaty in the UK, it would be crushingly defeated.

The two functionally-Communist parties in the regional legislature at Westminster—the majority Labour party and the “Liberal” “Democrats”—each made written promises in their manifestoes for the last national elections that they would give the British people a referendum on the Treaty before it was ratified.

Recently, the leaderships of both parties, knowing that any referendum would reject the Treaty overwhelmingly, have accordingly reneged on their promises, and samizdat debates are now being held on the question whether their failure to honor those promises and their consequent transfer of our own elected representatives’ powers to the unelected hands of the alien power that the European Union has become constitutes treason.

It is indeed treason: but the UK courts are now mere rubber-stamps for the dictators. In the British constitution, the largest body of Members of Parliament not belonging to the governing party used to be known as “Her Majesty’s Loyal Opposition.” However, the Conservative Party under its current weak, vapid, and policy-averse leadership has consistently failed to oppose the inexorable and soon-to-be-final extinction of what was once our democracy. In the absence of any Parliamentary opposition, millions of Britain’s leading minds have already fled overseas, taking their wealth and their talent with them, in a brain drain not seen since the ghastly days of Harold Wilson and the dominance of the Communist-led trades unions. I myself spent ten years overseas, but have recently returned and shall be doing my best to fight to regain my nation’s independence and democratic liberties.

Britain Now a Police State

Britain is now a closed country—a police state, with a Secret Police to rival the KGB. Our Secret Police was secretly founded by the present Government in 1998, and now its privileged and untouchable members mount dawn raids just like the KGB and then lie through their teeth in court to secure convictions against any citizen who has offended the regional gauleiters or the European Kommissars. There are “security” cameras every few inches—more of them than in any other nation. At current rates of growth, there will be a “security” camera for every UK citizen within a decade. In a sinister sequence of more than 90 criminal justice Bills in ten years, the present Government has removed every last one of the rights and freedoms of which Britain was once justly proud. We are no longer allowed even to demonstrate outside Parliament. It was the ninetieth of those Bills—passed with very little attempt at opposition—that took away the right of criminal trial.

Now, our “leaders” fawn as sycophantically upon our new, grim, European masters as their predecessors once did during the long and foolish period of appeasement that tempted Hitler to rearm unopposed and then to provoke the Second World War. This time, though, it is sycophancy by stealth. Not so long ago, a UK Cabinet Minister who refused to sign a European “Directive” was told by his own civil servants that if he did not sign it he could and would be stripped of his office and have all his possessions confiscated. Instead of resigning and going public, he cravenly and secretly signed. His story has never been made public. Another UK Cabinet Minister, who had agreed with a Directive and had written to congratulate the Kommissars on it, was summoned to Brussels and told that, although all the “regions” and the European Parliament had agreed the Directive, the Kommissars of Europe (who had proposed it, for they alone have the power to do so) had decided that it was not of any consequence and that it would not be enacted into law. When the astonished Minister was asked why, he was told that the Kommissars had wanted to make it clear to elected Ministers in all of the “regions” where the real power in Europe now lay—and it was not in their elected hands. He told me, “I had once been wholeheartedly in favor of the European Union. But it was at that moment that the scales fell from my eyes.” He died an implacable opponent of the new Europe.

And my own view? I am in favor of European democracy, and therefore firmly opposed to the atheistic-humanist, bureaucratic-centralist dictatorship that the European Union for which I once voted has so stealthily become. In Scotland, where the current “regional” gauleiter wants us to be independent of Westminster (which makes one tenth of our laws) but still subject to the dismal empire of Brussels (which makes nine-tenths of our laws), I lead a small but rapidly-growing movement in the Highlands and Islands which is aiming for independence from both Edinburgh and Brussels, but continuing loyalty to the Crown. We want our freedom back, and we are quietly planning to take it back, whether the gauleiters of the UK or the dictators of Europe like it or not. We will rise up and be a nation again.

Let freedom ring!

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  1. I, like many others, was confused as to why so many insane things were happening in my country. Now I know, it isn’t by chance, but must all be part of some diabolical plot. The folk of the UK need to organise, quickly. Barry.

  2. Philip Jones says:

    The End Of The Nation States Of Europe.

    “Europe’s Nations should be guided towards the Superstate without their people understanding what is happening. This can be accomplished by successive steps, each disguised as having an economic purpose, but which will eventually and irreversibly lead to Federation”. Jean Monnet (Father of the EU).

    The EU was founded on lies and deceit at the very highest levels. This trial of deception has continued since, and on Thursday 13th December 2007, led to Lisbon where the so called dignatories of Europe signed the EU Reform Treaty.
    This `Treaty` supposedly replaces the `rejected` constitution, but on the admissions of Angela Merkel of Germany and former French President Gisgard D’Estaing amongst others, is clearly the Constituion by another name. In Denmark, the Prime Minister, Anders Foch Rasmussen, a member of the Bilderberger Club, stated boldly that the Treaty was, “Good for Denmark” and that the Danish `Justice` Ministry had concluded that sovereignty was not threatened. He stated (without bursting into laughter) that as that was the case, no referendum would be needed. But he also continued there would be a public vote on the Euro sometime very soon, and that the various `opt outs` given to DK at Maastricht might now be irrelevant.
    So, no threat to sovereignty! If a nation no longer controls it’s own economy, defence, justice system, and HOME AFFAIRS, can it still call itself a sovereign state. The answer is clearly no. The Financial and Political Elite have been working towards this moment at least since 1935 and probaly even further back. The personalities might differ, but in every `Member State` the rhetoric is always the same, “No loss of sovereignty, good for the people, good for trade, economy ad nauseum.”
    This Treaty is the final death knell for the nation states of Europe. Do not be mistaken about this, and no matter what the politicians and the media say to the contrary, this is the culmination of years of plotting, deception and conspiracy against the peoples of Europe. This is the most secretive and quickest drafted document yet. Opposition to and recognition of the fact that the EU is a Police State in the making is growing and they, the conspirators know it. `Phoney` Blair agreed to it in June 2007 as his final stab in Britains back before he left office. All that now remains is for each state to ratify. In the whole of Europe, only one country still has even the vestiges of democracy left. Only the Irish will get the chance to vote. If they say no, the whole thing will collapse for the time being at least, so watch out for trickery and skullduggery of the most pernicious kind during the leadup to that vote.
    Unless those glorious Irish have the courage to slap the beast in the face, our national parliaments will become redundant. It will be the formal end to the ancient nations of Europe. National Embassies will come under the auspicies of EU autocrats. Our counties and provinces will be merged into Adminsitrative Regions. Our wonderful right to trial by jury, will be replaced by the draconian `Corpus Jurice` system, also known as the `Code Napolean`.
    The EU, in all it’s monstrosity is but another link in the setting up of a World Dictatorship. before this is dismissed as `scare mongering` or conspiracy theory, check out how many of our leading politicians, fananciers, businessmen etc. are members of such Secret Societies as the already named Bilderbergers, Trilateral Commision, Club of Rome and Chatham House. All are totally dedicated to one world tyranny. We live in an age where people have abdicated all political responsibilty to government. This trend has accelerated since the end of WWII and has led us to this point in time. If we sit back and do nothing, our lives will become a nightmare of our own creation. It will be we, who through our apathy and indifference have handed over our rights and liberties into the hands of the `Raptors`. It’s time to do something, start speaking to people, even when they would clearly rather watch the football, or `corrie`. Just do something before it’s too late.

  3. Rob Green says:

    Lord Christopher Monckton claims to have a “rapidly rising” movement in the Highlands and Islands giving its loyalty to the Crown.

    Unless Monckton is forcing his estate workers to join his ‘movement’ it is highly unlikely that anyone in Scotland let alone the Highlands and Islands would be supporting an English peer in a movement that has go nothing to do with the interests of Scotland!

    Moncton’s claim is hogwash.

  4. John Wilkinson says:

    Well said Lord Monckton. Most people in Britain have not got a clue what is really happening.
    As for Scotland well despite some comments, the Scots may well come to thank you and others for showing the way to regain the democracy that we all believed we once had. Long live Great Britain and down with the EUSSR.

  5. the eu is foretold ? in your bible even mentioning the mark of the beast , satanic law on there agender to have all new born babys micro chipped ? this is there main weapon to be masters of us all? when they ignor …christianity there is darkness abound? there secret meetings behind closed doors ,and there silence of the financial book keeping tells it all ? the uk police are but puppets on a string ,with all there power being governed by eussr? iam stll awaiting of my visit to my local police regarding a treason CD i handed in asking that our uk goverments be charged ?we must awaken the british public urgently , as time is running out fast? i suggest we all pray,pray,pray ,

  6. David says:

    I hate the EU kleptocracy and I hope I live long enough to see it dismantled – we are being ruled by thieves who don’t dive a damn about the ordinary citizens (serfs). How could our political leaders betray us so deeply and totally? They are quislings – the lot of them – I hope one day there’s a reckoning and they’re all tried for treason. I have come to the sad conclusion that virtually all politician can be bribed or coerced by our EU masters into serving them – the few that stick to their principles are marginalised.
    I’d like to do something to challenge the EU autocrats but I feel powerless. Are there any organised opposition groups out there besides UKIP? Sometimes I feel they’re the only ones trying to do something.

  7. A covert stalinistic mole in the pay of Brussels says:

    Quote from article – “The two functionally-Communist parties in the regional legislature at Westminster; the majority Labour party and the Liberal Democrats…”

    You’re insane. Literally… you have allowed your paranoia to overun your sense of judgement. This next quote…

    “Not so long ago, a UK Cabinet Minister who refused to sign a European “Directive” was told by his own civil servants that if he did not sign it he could and would be stripped of his office and have all his possessions confiscated.”

    is 100% empty of proof, fact or reference. It is just a nonsense piece of internet scaremongering. Do you expect anyone to swallow it? That you believe it speaks volumes. That you attempt to convince others with it is astonishing. Only a credulous imbecile would believe your conspiracy paranoia. Get some therapy!

  8. George Carter says:

    This is another person who uses defammation in his defence. I’ve had people call me everything under the sun for my beliefs. But, if you take a look down some of the comments that are published on mainstream media websites, such as the Mail, The Sun and The Express, you will see countless people giving their views on this government. I mean what would it take for you to actually believe something is going on in that is not right in this country? I knew something was wrong 10 fricking years ago and slowly people are coming round to it. Last week I found a web page where a person has tried to ridicule everything Brian has exposed about Common Purpose, but he makes a lousy job of it he cannot disprove anything and instead uses defammatory remarks throughout every comment.

  9. A covert stalinistic mole in the pay of Brussels says:

    “I knew something was wrong 10 fricking years ago and slowly people are coming round to it.”

    I’ve taught Secondary School Science in this country for 20 years. In that job I have attempted to explain to the GB Parental Public the on-going attempt to teach rational ’scientific thinking’ to their offspring. As a result of this, it is my opinion that the average British citizen has a very slim grasp of the scientific nature of the world and prefers a dramatic, personalised view of existence.

    I know as a 100% fact, that I am capable of rational thought (if I put my mind to it). I know what it is. I am aware of the world as cold molecular matter devoid of my influence (or God’s). I can exclude my desire from those calculations neccesary to build a clear picture of the nature of reality. I am also aware of the psychological propensity for the uneducated human mind to drift towards ‘magical’ egocentric thinking.

    The section of your post that I have highlighted is a classic example of ‘magical’ thinking, you claim to be wise beyond your peers and that your peers are slowly realising your wisdom. This is ‘wishful thinking’ a.k.a. bullshit. Your cite no facts or research to prop up your claims. You quote no examples. You don’t even put forward any theories. You are delusionary and you prefer emotional thinking to facts. The main article you quote is ridiculously sparse and fragile. Truly, it is a nonsense.

    You said, “This is another person who uses defammation in his defence.”

    No.

    Not defence; attack.
    Not defamation; criticism.

    You are weak-minded… it is plain. Your lack of reasoning skills are evident in every line of the text you admire. Because the text you admire is just a smoke-and-mirros show designed to dazzle the uneducated. And you are dazzled

    QED

  10. A covert stalinistic mole in the pay of Brussels says:

    “I’ve had people call me everything under the sun for my beliefs.”

    Seriously, George, did you ever stop to wonder why?

  11. George Carter says:

    Well there you go. We’re obviously at the feet of masters with people like you around. I have to question why you’re actually posting on this site, I suppose it’s obviously to discredit anyone who has a different opinion to you. Reminds me very much of my schooldays, and you being a teacher of science too. I can remember sitting in Maths lessons back in 1977 and having to sit through weeks of being taught Cosines, Sines, Logarithms , algebra. Nothing of any use to me today, and when I had the cheek to question why I had to learn it I was told it was part of the curriculum. Teacher knows best you see. But on a final note I think anyone who cannot see what is going on in the world today, and how the world is quickly becoming totalitarian, must be crunching numbers or playing with his model railway. As I said in my previous post, just look at all the comments now appearing on newspaper sites. Or are they all suffering from the same mental health problem? Come on mate it’s not exactly a joke knowing we’re leading towards fascism is it? I certainly don’t want it do you?

  12. A covert stalinistic mole in the pay of Brussels says:

    What you are failing to take into account is a thing called ’statistical significance’.

    You say, ‘look at all the angry posts on the internet, it shows that evryone is desparate.’ But, because you never aquired Cosines, Sines, Logarithms and Algebra etc (especially algebra, and you’ll never know why) you fail to see various mathmatical patterns and functions of probability. Do you really think the government spend 100s of millions on trying to teach everyone maths because ‘it’s on the curriculum’? Maths is an essential tool for measurement of the entire universe, including human emotions and political opinion.

    Yes! look at all the angry posts on the internet… 1000s of them. Therefore… there are 59,990,000 Britons not posting. You visit ‘paranoid rightwing’ websites, you read all the rightwing posts and assume you are viewing an average UK-wide gathering of opinion. But, in fact, it’s a statistical hot spot. If you’d paid attention in maths you know you are deluding yourself.

    Go to the left-wing sites and you’ll see a statistical hotspot reflecting the exact opposite of your predictions.

    We are not heading towards fascism (nor, as you claimed a couple of days ago, communism (make up your mind)) if anything, at this point in history, we are in the grip of capitalism.

    You need to learn to think rationally. I suggest you start by reading the political opinions of more than just the extreme right. In a nutshell, you are a little hysterical (and uninformed) in your views on Europe.

  13. A covert stalinistic mole in the pay of Brussels says:

    Seriously, George, read these two quotes from the original article…

    “Britain is now a closed country—a police state, with a Secret Police to rival the KGB. Our Secret Police was secretly founded by the present Government in 1998.”

    “Not so long ago, a UK Cabinet Minister who refused to sign a European “Directive” was told by his own civil servants that if he did not sign it he could and would be stripped of his office and have all his possessions confiscated.”

    Can you not see that they are absolutely empty of proof or explanation. They are lies.

    A British secret police force was founded in 1998? The writer just claims this stunning ‘fact’ and moves on. What secret police? Where? Who? How? Why? When? etc. etc.

    “to rival the KGB”??? The KGB erased 100,000s of people in Siberian Deathcamps. Is the writer suggesting we have deathcamps in the UK for political opponents of New Labour? If he is, why is he not in one for his ‘expose’?

    A cabinet minister was threatened with the complete confiscation of his property if he didn’t sign a pro-european document…

    Is he suggesting that the ’secret powers’ in Brussels can walk unopposed into the cabinet room at Number Ten, straight through all the police check points and 100s of press, staff, toursits etc, and over-ride all the various ministers and the prime minister and bluntly threaten to remove a senior politician’s home (how, by the way, using what ‘home confiscation’ system?) and NO-ONE noticed or said anything…

    BUT (and this is the point) the author of the article knows about it, somehow he knows what nobody else does, but he won’t share the details, prefering just to sketch a little empty story of the event.

    GEORGE? WAKE UP! This article (and others like it) are lies for the stupid. If you are not stupid, then it is time you stopped looking for articles which simply confirm your fears and started reading across the spectrum and testing what you read before you believe it. Because the main article of this thread is no more believable than a fairy tale about trolls and witches.

  14. George Carter says:

    Well I’ll have one last puff at you then I’m off to work. Firstly you assume I’m stupid because I wasn’t able to grasp advanced Maths. The only Maths I need are basic addition, multiplication, subtraction and division and how to read a tape measure or read scales. That’s it. I’m a self employed window fitter running my own business. I do all my own accounts using this basic maths, never employed an accountant. Self employed is something the “left” frown upon because it means being able to think for one’s self and not taking orders from higher up. If I cock up I suffer the consequences and it’s down to me.

    A further point where you claim – rightly so – that I talk of Communism and Fascism in both my posts. I should have explained this further. Communism is a left wing political system and Fascism is a right wing political system. But the aim is the same. State control of everything and concentration camps for those who don’t comply. I don’t think anyone would admit that Fascism actually exists, as Hitler declared he was Socialist. But we all know the truth don’t we.

    Now the reason for my belief in this Fairy tale is because of the events that are happening around us. Just minor things whereby a judge lets a paedophile off for assaulting a 12 year old girl and says she was no angel herself. Was that a fairy tale? Then there is the EU with its crazy laws on health and safety. I’ll quote one here because this happened to me in my job.
    I was asked to carry out some repairs to a window in an old peoples home. I was shown to a bedroom by one of the officials. When I saw the amount of safety locks and bars across this window I was amazed. I was told it’s to stop the people from falling out. “What about a fire escape” I asked. “Well the EU says this is what we must do” came the reply.

    I could go on about these pointless laws I have lots of them in my head but I can’t be arsed. Then there’s the fishing industry. Check out a video on You Tube where a fishmonger has been told by trading standards all the pointless things he has to do. Right I’m going to work now. Have a nice day in school won’t you and don’t burn yourself on those bunsens.

  15. The Editor says:

    Dear “A covert stalinistic mole in the pay of Brussels” -

    Could you explain why you hide behind a Netherlands anonymising IP address? Your email address also gives no indication of any real human being or identity.

    George Carter’s name is known and he is being honourable in his communications. So far, by hiding behind Metropipe, you are not.

    We look forward to more of your posts.

    Editor

  16. david_grothier says:

    For Derrick and Joan and the Lewis family

    If there is no justice, there is no peace.
    – Bahya ben Asher, Kol HaKemah , 14C

    Well folks what does one say amongst the magnificent eloquent expressions of distaste here?

    I don’t really don’t know, but perhaps a little too much eloquence and complexity for the man in the street like me tend to ensure the plot is lost.. After all we have to be able to understand the help that is kindly being push at us in ever increasing amounts these days as the pressure from the other side, the government and Europhiles, increases.

    Problem is that you never really know whose who, and what is what, and of course what their agendas may be.

    Me, a simple man, with just one agenda, based strongly held tempestuous convictions and emotions, deeply rooted in my Rhondda socialist heritage, ie the preservation of Human Rights and dignity for the benefit of all, especially the most vulnerable members of our society. I believe that misuse of a public office, should be a capital crime as should any abuses of the public by any member of the administration. Harsh yes, but I have found that in the cold light of reality that people most certainly need incentives to do what they are empowered to do–-well.

    I believe that the Universal Declaration of Human Rights was brought about through need. I further believe that the Universal Declaration of Human Rights is grossly abused to today like many well intentioned social policies has become a shield for indolent bureaucratics rather that a sword justice for innocent victims of degradation!

    And strangely enough. I do encounter a strong opposition to my unwavering views!

    For example––-They just decided to ban me( for asking too many question out of the established line there), for a day over on http://tpuc.org/node/44, but having been banned from supposedly better “free speech” sites than that, I therefore requested that the ban be of the full, total and complete, sin die, full stop and never to appear there again–type!

    Besides there are far too many injustices to address (please see below), to get bogged down in the quagmire of piffle!

    I like John Harris I believe him to be a good well intentioned person, although I seriously question the intentions of several of his sycophants there who would rather debate the meaning of words like unity, truth and justice, than go out to find and apply them in society.

    The Public Defender web site is supposed to all be about the search, or the expectation of having, by chance or design, “wisdom.” John Harries believes he has found a key to wisdom in the Magna Carta. And can use this to be a PUBLIC DEFENDER!

    I trust for all your sakes he is right and he does bring about change.

    However there on the Public Defender, apart from John Hughes, they appear to be long on words and short on action. This my friends, when self proclaimed to be Wisdom orientated, definitely cannot be so! Wisdom should be equated to action, a change for the better! This philosophy is almost as old a philosophy itself as ––– “The function of wisdom is to discriminate between good and evil”–– Marcus Tullius Cicero, (106 BC – 43 BC) and in my book only fools would let evil prevails. Albert Einstein (1879 – 1955) put it far better than I ever could when he said––– “The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing”.

    Therefore is it not true to say that Wisdom without action is like a tree without fruit.– Joseph Kimhi, Shekel HaKodesh 12C.
    I will leave that to be eternally debated over on the PUBLIC DEFENDER, and while they philosophise in ever decreasing circles, please allow me to draw your attention, and that of those on the PUBLIC DEFENDER web site, to two features here on this web site on pages 6&7

    With respect to you all I urge you to read this two stories as believe it can, and will, given the right circumstances happen to you and yours.

    I know the both parties in these remarkably true yet unbelievably horrible and disastrous stories. I know them for what they are, good, decent, honest, normal, solid working class people form whose ranks a succession of governments have drawn their continual flow of cannon fodder– the types that Lloyd George proclaimed that he would build a land fit for heroes, after decimating carnage of WWI.

    Words though, I have regrettably found, come cheap, very cheap indeed, especially where the rank and file of British society is concerned.

    You should also be very well aware that almost all, that both the Lewis’ and the Byes turned to for help, and were supposed to be there to help them, failed them, and failed them in order to support and protect the State functioning agencies, who of were vicariously liable for the actions of those individuals involved in these cases.( in fact I am not aware of any that helped them)
    These people failed both families, often doing so with a battery of deliberate false promises, which cruelly raised both hope and expectation. I know only too well how hurtful and harmful such people can be. I had many in my life, but none so nefarious as Martin Caton MP, who falsely offer a helping hand at a time of great grief and need, knowing full well he had not intention of doing an darn thing against the system,.( I sincerely believe that British society has sunk beyond the point of return to normality, therefore the time is now upon us to name, names and stand by what you declare. I will do this and I take the full responsibilities for my comments.
    In the case of the Lewis’ the most vile and evil doctors I have ever encountered( and there have been quite a few) was one of the prime movers in keeping the Lewis child in custody. He has never to my knowledge given any justifiable reasons for doing this, always being prepared to hide behind the social service to do his bidding.

    In both these cases the public need to be fully aware of the need for a complete investigation and disbandment of the General Medical Council, (GMC). This is a barbaric organisation specifically there to protect negligent and incompetent doctors over the rights of patients. This is an inhumane organisation which while it exists will never ensure a full and proper accountability from doctors. I am on record with the GMC of telling them this, and a hell of a lot more that I would ensure be done if I had the legal powers to do so.

    The GMC is a blight on our nation. The general public should be constantly advised of this, its too late when such tragic circumstance like those of the BYEs come you your front door.

    There is more I can say, and there are many more examples, but please just let the Lewis’ and Bye’s story reach out to you! Treat their stories as a message directly to your families to be ever on guard against a medical profession that is suppose to be there to care and help you.
    Not all doctors are bad, there are fine ones out there, but its the rotten system that deliberately helps the bad ones escape accountability that is the main killer.

    Doctors, killer, negligent and incompetent, in the UK are protected at all possible cost where it is practical to do so–-drawn into the despicable cover up, and willingly so are the police, the social service, the CPS and the likes. It is only when you experience these tragic events does one begin to realise that your loved ones’ lives are cheap in the eyes of some, but even cheaper with those who willing give their support to what I can only now call the devil’s doctors.

    For those of you concerned enough to research, you will find there is in fact mass murder being carried out within the British NHS!
    You nor I, wont know which of you, or a loved one will be next. But what I do know with certainty is that if you lose a loved one, or suspect negligent treatment–-you will find so many obstacles in your way of getting at the truth, that it could drive your already grief ridden body, mind and spirit to suicide––- as it has done to many,

  17. A covert stalinistic mole in the pay of Brussels says:

    Dear Editor,
    you ask “Could you explain why you hide behind a Netherlands anonymising IP address?” Nope, It’s news to me. In fact it’s not really news cos I don’t understand what IT-tech-jargon means, still, I’m not ‘hiding’ behind anything.

    Nor do I need to reveal my private details into a system notorious for marketing spam and identity cloning. I’ve told you my job, I’m a white, male, 40, ex-protestant, northern, double graduate with a beautiful wife and no kids. My name is utterly meaningless to this discussion and will remain so.

    George? I asked if you could explain the claim from the article that, ‘a secret police force was created in the UK in 1998′ and you offered ‘bars on the windows in an old folk’s home.’

    I have to say that I’m not utterly won over.

  18. The Editor says:

    Dear “A covert stalinistic mole in the pay of Brussels” -

    Your IP address is the unique identifier of your presence on the net. It indicates who your ISP is ie BT or Virgin or whatever. Your IP address shows you are going through a dutch ISP that obscures your true IP address. That seemed odd to us given you are english.

    Yes, you do not have to reveal your name here. And we are not after your details. But the use of “moles” and “trolls” to unsettle discussions is a known aspect of the internet and your use of a dutch IP address would fit in with that pattern. That is why we asked.

    As for the points you raise, it is true that there is much mis-information out there and also many examples of truth being blended with lies to further confuse effective enquiry.

    In a previous comment you mentioned statistics. As Lincoln said; “There are lies, damn lies and statistics”. The scientific community could be of considerably more use to humanity were it not, to a great degree, the vassal of our would be societal masters. When it comes to matters of will and purpose, science is at an utter loss.

    Bertrand Russell, who like Henry Kissinger ironically received the Nobel peace prize (please, no laughter), covered much of “their” plans in his book “The Impact of Science on Society”, in which he envisaged a world run by a scientific elite, for the good of everyone. Of course. Much of what he wrote has come to pass.

    Science is useful. So too philosophy and, in the true meaning of the word, religion also. By religion I do not mean the various Fan Clubs of God (christianity, judaism, islam etc etc) or the ritualistic sillyness that they are so fond of, but the true and heartfelt enquiry into the nature of existence and the spiritual dimension to our lives that, in my experience, is vital for accurate living.

    Science, philosophy and religion form the three legged stool upon which we humans can sit and consider and act upon our situation. Science without the steady influence of philosophy becomes lethal. Religion, without the practical test of daily living has no meaning. Philosophy, the study of values, must measure itself with feedback of both a physical and spiritual nature. Our so-called education system focusses exclusively on left brain training, its end product being students who can pass tests but cannot think. That is, think in the truly creative way that is needed by all of us as each new generation comes through. Our current form of education is little more than a system of controlled ignorance.

    It does not take a rocket scientist to work out that our country, society and so-called civilisation is in a state of some decay. And The Column is not alone in identifying where much of that decay springs from. We may get some of the details wrong and, from time to time, no doubt peg support to someone who subsequently turns out to have the behavioural integrity of a skunk. But in the main, there is more truth here than in any established media company because simply put, the mass media is part of the decay.

  19. david_grothier says:

    Also please beaware of the low intelligence level of some.

    I have actually been accussed of being a government mole in some places where I present contradictory opinions, based in the reality of what we actually face, and not fiction.

    Well they could be right and I am a mole, as I keep digging around and about, however the more I dig, the more I find, and the more I find the more I can clearly see just how far in deep sh%T we all really are.

    For the moment I would like to use this medium to pass my heart felt sincerley gratitude to Brian Gerrish, who has pulled things together for me after years of being frustratedly lost and going around incircles.

    The Good Book says “seek and ye shall find”, thank you Brian for helping to show me the way.

    Brain if you read here I would like to make contact, thank you,

    daviddegrothier1@yahoo.com

  20. George Carter says:

    Come down to Bournemouth on Friday 27th, to the International Hotel. Brian is doing a talk on CP at around 7pm. I’m going there. I’ve got my train tickets and bed for the night! Come on treat yourself to a proper night out of good information and leave the TV off…. forever.

  21. George Carter says:

    I missed out that it’s June 27th, this Friday.

  22. david_grothier says:

    Thank you George woud love but would need a little more notice due to distance

    daviddegrothier1@yahoo.com

  23. A covert stalinistic mole in the pay of Brussels says:

    “It does not take a rocket scientist to work out that our country, society and so-called civilisation is in a state of some decay. ”

    Weeeeell, maybe. But that is a complaint often voiced by the middle aged who feel that some golden age has passed and we’re off to hell in a hand-cart because young people are running round with long-hair, or having ‘too much’ sex, or not going to church, or whatever.

    Yeah, sure, young people are a bit wild at the moment, but when you look at it in a historical timeline, we’ve had more peace and prosperity than anyone else in history, especially since the end of the cold war. Really, you’ve never had it so good.

    There hasn’t been a war in Westen Europe since 1945. For that, in part, I thank the European Union. In WWII, in Britain they dropped a few bombs on us, but we haven’t had a groud war in this country since (I think) the civil war, we’ve forgotten how truly unspeakable war is. Lucky, lucky us, we can view the prospect of war in our land as some extraordinarily unlikely thing. That, more than petrol prices or referendums on treatys that nobody’s read, is the true value of being part of Europe.

    Peace in our time.

  24. A covert stalinistic mole in the pay of Brussels says:

    PS And if you really thing Brussels is some cabal of highly covert power brokers who seek the overthrow ‘the British way of life’, then I’m sorry that is just laughable. Brussels may not run smoothly nor sometimes efficiently, but it is not ‘one fixed thing’, it is an emerging democratic body whose aim is to better the lives of Europeans, if we so choose.

    Petty tabloid distractions (and lies) about banana regulations or kilo vs pounds are just childish nonsense. The European Union is perhaps the greatest opportunity for peace and prosperity for the whole world. The Americans are too insular and ignorant of world affairs. The Chinese are too socially under-developed. It is Europe, with Britain playing a major leading role, that has a chnace to make a sane and peaceful world.

    Becuase the world as we know it is a terrible, violent and unhappy place. And it is our duty to seek meaningful change.

  25. david_grothier says:

    Admirable sentiment, and in general I would have fully agreed with you 100%, having experienced and appreciated some of the better things coming out of Europe. DGXI for one.

    Little niggles, as they inevitably do, have crept in especially over the ridiculous inflation the figure which is more like 11% that 3% but that’s how all governments like to con the public.

    What really rang the danger signal for me was the brazen, blatantly open manner in which the President and some of his high ranking UE officials were prepared, and are still doing so, to ignore the free Irish democrat NO vote to the Lisbon Treaty.

    It was as if the EU must take precedent over democracy–-if I am wrong in my assessment no harm done, as who am I?

    However, if I am right then its time for one eye on an escape root ,and one ear ever vigilant for the sound of the Jackboot.

  26. Veronica says:

    “A covert stalinistic mole in the pay of Brussels” regales us with his scientific brilliance:

    “Can you not see that they are absolutely empty of proof or explanation. They are lies”

    Yes, I can see they are “empty of proof or explanation”.

    That does not make them lies. That simply makes them “unproven” and “unexplained”.

    Big difference … but it doesn’t worry our teacher of science. (Heaven help his students if that’s his concept of logic)

    ACSMITPOB is one of those people who, if smashed in the face by an elephant’s trunk would argue that this was a perfectly natural occurrence. “Black is white, and white is black, folks!”

  27. George Carter says:

    Veronica that is a good comment. I’ve just had a debate on You Tube with one of the Oxford students who attended David Ickes talk at the Oxford Union. For someone who is above average intelligence (allegedly) he seemed very naive towards the current political agenda.

  28. david_grothier says:

    Its not only the Oxbridge assemblage either, its right through the rank and file of the nation, a total imperception of the function of government.

    Of course in a limited way, I have been gathering opinions form around the nation, and its clear that people just don’t know, or even understand when explained to them, what Common Purpose is, or its dangers.

    Nor do most believe that their rights are be sacrificed, and a number asked still believe that BRITAIN IS STILL THE FINEST NATION IN THE WORLD.

    Most ask did not know that Brown had signed the Treaty of Lisbon, and a number of people asked was it anything to do with footie.

    Talk about an uphill task, but then what can you expect from a nation that cant get passed page 3, and has a growing arrest record throughout sun soaked Europe for being drunken louts.

    However, for those of us genuinely concerned we still have our work to do. I am pleased to report, as discussed with Kate that I have made some inroads on the constitutional abuses by those their to protect, preserve and serve, and hope to given further updates in due course.

    Its not an easy task but I am confident and determined enough to be able to state that this government will not find me a push over. Once started I can and only will stop when the task is done.

    In order to make my position perfectly clear, to one and all, the following was recently sent to the Ministry of Justice–-or should that be the Ministry of Jokes.

    Ms Sarah Henderson Department of Justice.
    Dear Sarah Henderson.
    I trust you are and working in the best interests of the British public, and not a corrupt administration.
    Over the past months I have brought to your attention the conduct of the IPPC, (also for other criminal matters, the CPS, the former Swansea Coroner, and of course the corrupt, criminal activities of Dyfed Powys Police Force) in relation to their failure to carry out their duties as required under the Police Reform Act 2002. In doing so I requested that you kindly ensured my complaint would get the appropriate section of the Ministry of justice
    I regret, (only for the sake of the Justice Ministry which has foolishly now exposed itself for what it really is), I have had not had acknowledgement from you, let alone a reply, and therefore the failure of duty to comply with Statute legislation by the IPPC, under a very ineffectual, corrupt Nick Hardwick has gone unchallenged even by the Justice Ministry, What a good start it has got off to in such a short existence as the custodian of the UK judicial process.
    This is What the Justice Ministry claims its fucntion to be extracted from it own web page–––(of course these claims are completely false).
    Departmental strategic objectives
    strengthen democracy, rights and responsibilities
    deliver fair and simple routes to civil and family justice
    protect the public and reduce reoffending
    ensure a more effective, transparent and responsive criminal justice system for victims and the public
    However, I have found the Justice Ministry to be uneducated, and lacking in commitment, innovation and motivation to serve this nation and justice. In fact just another “all front, no action showcase,” another con on the people of this nation.
    I have demonstrated to the Justice Ministry, via yourself and others, clearly proveable incidents of Perjury and Conspiracy to Pervert the Course of Justice. I have given the Justice Ministry proof of corruption and further criminal activities in Dyfed Powys Police Force, also the IPPC and CPS, and there is more to come.
    The Justice Ministry must obviously be highly nervous of this situation and afraid to move forward on the evidence I have given you, as what I have provided is the element of proof that will conclusively demonstrate the extent of the evil reach of corruption with in the UK justice administrative system. The harsh reality now being is that this nation, Great Britain, is in fact not a respecter of Democracy, or the British Constitution, but for from it. Britain is clearly is a nation that is set on bringing about the downfall of whatever British democracy is left or whatever reasons there may be behind such a treasonous action.
    Possibly the backdoor signing of the EU Trusty by the treasonous treachery of this joke of a thing called Brown claiming a right to be in our illustrious No10 without even being elected by the nation to be there. Brown may hold the key to the answer of the question of the unconstitutional sign of the Treaty of Lisbon.
    Given this despotic and blatant abuse of office by the Justice Ministry who are openly refusing to follow the law that there are “supposedly” there to ensure is upheld, and in consideration of Clause 45.of the Magna Carta 1215 viz.
    We will not make men justices, constables, sheriffs, or bailiffs unless they are such as know the law of the realm, and are minded to observe it rightly.
    I find that I, as a UK citizen am no longer prepared to accept such a corrupt administration as being legal and acting in the better interest of justice, democracy and the people of the great nation of ours, Britain.
    I have a number of steps open to me under the law of the land. But firstly I must, out of duty to our nation, denounce the Justice Ministry as being illegal under the British Constitution, as referred to above. To being corrupt, and to failing to provide the required Duty of Care owed to the people of this nation, and for an abuse of public trust and office.
    After due, and the most careful, consideration of my position, I now formally advised the Justice Ministry that I have now fully entered myself into a state of Legal Rebellion. Formal declaration being sent to Buckingham Palace as per conversation with Mrs. Sonia Bonici, on Thursday last August 7 2008.
    BEFORE I CONTINUE IT NOW MATTERS NOT WHAT ACTION YOU MAY TAKE, OR NOT TAKE, AS THIS DECLARATION WILL BE PLACED IN THE INTERNATIONAL PUBLIC DOMAIN AT THE SAME TIME AS IT IS RECEIVED BY YOURSELVES.
    IT IS A BARBARIC AND AFFRONT TO ALL DECENCY THAT BRITISH TROOPS ARE FIGHTING AMERICA’S WARS, AND DYING UNDER THE FAÇADE OF PROTECTING DEMOCRACY, AND COMBATTING TERRORISM, WHEN WE FIND THE GREATEST TERRORISTS, AND GREATEST ABUSES OF DEMOCRACY ARE AT THE VERY HEART OF THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE BRITISH JUSTICE SYSTEM.
    Going public with this notification to the Justice Ministry of my declaration is the best, and only way, as all, bar none advised at the Justice Ministry have had sufficient opportunity to openly and honestly investigate all of the above–-but have simply not been “not minded” to do so as they obviously are required to be. Therefore in not being appropriately “minded,” have breached the most basic element of the British Constitution.!
    Lawful Rebellion.
    Refusal to accept some authority or code or convention.
    An act or show of defiance toward an authority or established government.
    Defined meaning of Lawful;
    Being within the law; allowed by law: lawful methods of dissent. (The lawful refusal to conform to the authority that is unjust)
    Under article 61 of Magna Carta 1215 (the founding document of our Constitution) we have a right to enter into lawful rebellion if we feel we are being governed unjustly. Contrary to common belief our Sovereign and her government are only there to govern us, and not to rule us and this must be done within the constraint of our Common Law and the freedoms asserted to us by such Law, nothing can become law in this country if it falls outside of this simple constraint.
    Article 61 shows quite clearly who really holds the power in this country, that being quite simply us the people; we have Sovereignty not any Parliament and nor can this be taken from us by any Parliament who claim to have taken the people’s Sovereignty. As defined above any act passed by a Parliament to remove the power the people possess, or to remove the power from the point of constraint we invested the power in, is invalid as it falls outside of the constraint laid down by Common/Constitutional Law.
    Being in a state of Lawful Rebellion against the crown affords to me the full protection of the Common Law of this land to hinder in any way possible all actions of the treasonous government of this land, who have breeched the Constitutional safeguards, defined with no form of violence in anyway, just lawful hindrance under freedom asserted by Constitutional Law and Article 61 Of the Magna Carta.
    I sincerely regret that this situation has come about, but I see no other way to combat such abuses by the administration of our country. Such abuses are a clear indiction that Britain is on a course of a disastrous totally unsustainable future which is destined to cause misery and suffered to many 1000s on innocent citizens.
    Sincerely David Grothier.

  29. Veronica says:

    Dear George Carter,

    Thanks for your kind comments (about mine).

    There are a number of essential points.

    1) My comment could be applied to most of what ACSMITPOB wrote … it is just that the specific point I made was probably the most obvious.

    2) Of course ACSMITPOB is, indeed, being constantly ‘smacked around the head by an elephant’ – the invisible one in his living room – and does, apparently, consider it to be a ‘natural occurrence’.

    3) But there is more. When you consider the intellect of those who post on this site, and there obvious real knowledge about the current situation, you think (or, at least I think) “How did ACSMITPOB get here?”. “Where did he come from?”. He’s a fish out of water. And “What does he expect to achieve, when debating against the intellect and deep knowledge of someone on this thread?”.

    Are we all going to say “Oh gosh, ACSMITPOB, you are so right! All this research I’ve done, over all these years, is pure bunkum! Even though it explains everything, chapter & verse, it’s pure bunkum! Thanks soooo much for your valuable insights!”

    Is that what he expects? What’s his point if that’s not what he seeks to achieve?

    We have two possibilities (1) He arrived ‘here’ by pure accident or (2) He was paid to arrive ‘here’.

    How, do you think, someone would arrive here by ‘pure accident’? People arrive here by following a trail of research. As they follow that trail they accumulate knowledge. For example if ACSMITPOB was given a copy of the Column, how could he possibly read that and not – at the very least – start to think? Start to question what he had believed in up to that point, and checked up on a few things, before diving in and posting the knee-jerk rubbish he posted?

    He is supposed to be a science teacher, after all. (Presumably he teaches knee-jerk science?)

    Nah! Troll! He’s a troll. He was ‘pointed’ here. To attempt some kind of disruption. And probably given a connection, via Holland, to keep his ID protected.

    I don’t know why they bother. They have the mainstream media sewn up on their behalf. Why do they waste their time attempting to disrupt us? I can only assume it is some kind of Training Exercise for ACSMITPOB.

    But, I’ll tell you this. I’ve got quite a lot of experience at dealing with Trolls. If he pops up again, I reckon I can make him squirm.

    So, ACSMITPOB, are you up for the challenge?

  30. david_grothier says:

    The one thing I would urge you all to start doing people if you really care about your rights and those of your children, and future generation is to start questioning everything about the so called Ministry of Justice.

    I have the distinct feelng that this is another, pure through and through Common Purpose organistaion that will have disasterous effects over us all.

  31. Veronica says:

    Ministry of Justice can’t be more than a stone’s throw from Orwell’s Ministry of Truth.

  32. David-GRothier says:

    From my experience I think they are passengers on the same bus.

  33. David_Grothier says:

    I would say that for the moment never mind the EU, that will be upon us soon enough.

    My Question would be on your right in the UK today—

    Its is now fairly certain that you only have such rights in principle and not in fact.

    Ask anyone who has ever tried to claim their rights, ie right that are legally and constitutionally theirs, from government or any of its departmentsI Its like firefighting in hell—and that people cannot be right.

    The sooner we all united to change the way Britain is being run(into the ground), the better for us and our descendants.

  34. David_Grothier says:

    Listen up folks as this could hurt you ba–very bad-

    I love the West Country, it really is a beautiful place and does not warranted the intrusion of the Prince of Clowns to claim a stake in your heritage–however that a subjective view.

    What does concern me is that your right of redress against any police misbehaviour falls under the IPPC. Now the IPPC is under a treasonous NICK Hardwik and TOTALLY CORRUPT ON A NATION WIDE SCALE. But Sadly your regional director is a guy call Mike Benbow or Bentbow as I have the privilege of addressing him.

    You want to talk COMMON PURPOSE then talk to Bentbow –––AND ASK HIM HOW HIS GOT HIS JOB. I THINK YOU WILL FIND THE CIRCUMSTANCE SURROUND HIS APPOINTMENT ARE ILLEGAL–-BUT YOU ASK AND WHEN YOU DO PLEASE GIVE HIM MY KINDEST REGARDS WITH THE MESSAGE THAT SHOULD HE BELIEVE THAT ANYTHING I STATE IS INCORRECT–-HE KNOWS WHAT MY ADDRESS IS FOR THE SERVICE OF A WRITE!–

    All I do is for the benefit of the people of the nation and I am not affair to name names where it is correct to do so,

  35. Veronica says:

    David Grothier,

    What you have to do is to be prepared to sacrifice your body (because there are too many of ‘them’ to fight physically), on the basis of making sure they never get what they truly want – your mind, your will, your compliance.

    Having spent a month ‘inside’, in 1993, for refusing to pay the Poll Tax, I actually know what I’m talking about. Sure, they got my body but no – I did not capitulate.

    Understand this: The myth of the Poll Tax Riots contributing to the downfall of that tax is complete rubbish. The aggression in those riots was fermented by Agents Provocateurs.

    What caused its downfall was one thing, and one thing only: Money.

    1) The 19 billion spent on implementing it.

    2) The fact that it cost £2,500 per week, PER PERSON, to keep someone in jail. (Must be something like £3,500 today. And, don’t forget, 65% of inmates are there ON REMAND i.e. just because some guy wearing a stupid wig thinks they might abscond)

    3) The fact that, by thinking outside the box, it was possible to ensure that something like £8,000 – £9,000 would be spent on ‘getting you to prison’.

    4) The resolve of a few of us (about 1,000 all told) to be jailed every year from then onwards.

    (This apart from the fact that – in my case – the bill was £532, and the cost of getting me to jail was – I estimate – about £13,000)

    Think “Norman Laws” (that’s his name …lovely guy). 70 years old, saying “I didn’t fight in WWII to be enslaved by this Poll Tax”. So they gave him 3 months. Following year, at 71, they gave him 6 months. Following year, at 72, they gave him 9 months. They didn’t break him, though.

    Conclusion: Come what may it only takes few who have the resolve to fight in ‘lawful rebellion’ by simple non-cooperation.

    Example: There was talk about fining people £2,500 for failing to comply with the ID Card rules. Personally I laughed at that. (Typical ‘Blunkett’ mentality). The answer is childishly simple: Don’t pay. Be prepared to go to prison for your conscience. Make THEM pay (they won’t like it, big-time! But, eventually, the futility of it will dawn on their addled brains)

    Can you imagine the bravery of the Conscientious Objectors who stood on their own two feet, and were tried and shot for ‘cowardice’? (To be prepared to be shot dead just because they did not agree with killing other people for no reason?). They had more bravery in one big toe than the entire Military Court and ‘organisation’ behind it.

  36. Veronica says:

    We have a Referendum on the EU (and everything else).

    We always have it, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

    All it takes is for a group of people to have the resolve to ‘vote with their feet’, and NOT CO-OPERATE.

    (And, I said previously, it only takes a relatively small, dedicated, handful)

    The more ‘publicly’ you do it the better. They can’t stand exposure.

  37. David_Grothier says:

    As you know I have declared myself in law full rebellion—I have been previously tested and the authorities know they cannot break my will and I am pushing forward all all my atattcking fronts and making some progress as Kate knows.

    We now need nation wide unity to topple this abominable system. I will be called to do whatever it takes!

  38. Veronica says:

    Dear David Grothier,

    Well, good for you.

    Perhaps we need a website *specifically dedicated* to those who wish to declare they are in lawful rebellion?

    I know about John Harris’s site of course, but there is more going on there than a pledge (or whatever is necessary) to declare others in lawful rebellion. It must be necessary to state it more simply than his affidavits.

    We need some way of directly contacting/supporting each other. We need some way of opening it up.

    I’ve been at pains to stress that it does not need 35 million (adults). It only needs ‘as many a possible’ – even if that is a small handful – provided they are dedicated and mutually supportive.

  39. David_Grothier says:

    hello Veronica my email is daviddegrothier1@yahoo.com. I will do what I am needed to do!

    I will no longer sit back and take this rubbish.

  40. David_Grothier says:

    Some thoughts—

    I have no doubt that this is going to be a very hard winter for many.

    We are already faced with an extra 27 quid on the weekly shopping basket.

    Rises gas and electric prices, yes water rates too.

    Pump price may begin to fall but they are still a cause for concern. council taxes, credit crunch, business failures and other worrying factors that make your pound cringe and shrink in your purse.

    All the while local and national government services seem to shrink in sympathy with your pound!

    You end paying more with less, and getting less for what you pay! A sure fired recipe for a grave social disaster.

    Now folks to add further insult to your injuries, please let me say….. or perhaps alert you would be more appropriate to the fact that while you struggle to pay your way, civil servants national and local from the lower middle grade up are living high of the hog at your expense.——–BETTER PUT THEY ARE LIVING OFF YOUR BACKS!

    They work shorter hours than most, have more holidays than most, do as little as possible have preferential pension rights and medical care benefits etc, etc, and always remain ahead of the game!

    And they do so for delivering less.

    This is a fact of life, and a look around your locality, let alone the general state of the nation, will illuminate what I state.

    Ever thought why when you ring someone in your local council they always seem to be in meetings or training sessions?

    With that amount of meetings and training sessions we should all be wisely governed and living in a paradise!–

    Ever thought why we are not’––––––-Answer Common Purpose is alive and working well!

    As it has been rightly point out by Veronica here on the Column–– “We need some way of directly contacting/supporting each other. We need some way of opening it up.

    I’ve been at pains to stress that it does not need 35 million (adults). It only needs ‘as many a possible’ – even if that is a small handful – provided they are dedicated and mutually supportive.”

    I would suggest as a possible first step forward would be for groups of dedicated people in each local administrative district start to questioning the salaries of council officials, and the cost to the public purse of their overall employment package.

    Question what edacity they to “earn” such a wondrous gift from the public purse…and keep on questioning until you get the answers that you need–-Then compare these excessive amount, pro rata, with what each individual in your community pays in council taxes and the, “lack of,” services they get in return.

    I am quite sure that you will find a wall of resistance from officialdom. However that should be seem of a good thing, as the higher the resistance open honesty in the provision of information that should be in the public domain in any event–-the greater the public determination to break such resistance will be.

    Our ultimate weapon is non violent social disobedience–-this should be seem as being in direct resistance to the Common Purpose subliminal non violent subjugation of the nation that is taking place as I write.

    Imagine a country where all the local town hall steps are blocked with peaceful protesters, mothers, grannies children etc–-they cant lock them all up cam they, besides if they break no laws there would be no need to take that step would there?

    You can bet you life if that this took place, government and Common Purpose would feel a few shivers.

    Just something to think over before our inaction displayed to date ensures that many 1000s will suffer this winter, and even more of us long term.

    United we “WILL” make a difference.

  41. the log cabin says:

    UK should know that within the US some are aware of what Mr. Gerrish is saying.

    Furthermore it is because of his outstanding charachter that all pertinent facts are evaluated.

    Mr. Gerrish is 100% and good to go.

    Mr. Gerrish is the top man.

  42. david_grothier says:

    THAT OBVIOUSLY BEING SO TRUE–THEN WHY DO YOU NOT PUBLISH YOUR NAME AND CONTACT DETAILS AND HOW YOU WOULD PROPOSE TO MOVE FORWARD ON THESE SERIOUS ISSUES.

    I am Mr David Grothier

    My Email is daviiddegrothier1@yahoo.com

    Dont you think its time now for our openess and bonding together as UNITED WE STAND dived we just PEE in the wind.

  43. david_grothier says:

    PS While they continue merrily to PEE on us.

  44. William says:

    David,

    Your email is not activated. Please compute.

  45. david_grothier says:

    OOOOOPPPPPPPsssssssssss sorry it should be daviddegrothier1@yahoo.com

    Put an “i” to many in.

  46. david_grothier says:

    Well people could this be the start of open EU policing throughout the Union and into the EU’s satellite countries will we now see the revaluation of the Orwellian Fist of Steel, or should that be the New Gestapo Grip?

    Today the unelected European Union foreign ministers agreed, without reference to Britain¡s public to raise the role of the organization in Georgia, including the possible dispatch of EU peace monitors to firm up the fragile peace deal between Russia and Georgia. Of course this puts the average Brit into confrontation with the average Ruskie without even knowing it––-great way to start a war, no one knows they did, as heads are still in page three or the back pages, until BANG!!

    The Poles now obviously way too far up Bush’s backside to see the light of common sense had their Foreign Minister, Radoslaw Sikorski tell a news conference that his country was in favour of putting peacekeeping forces into the disputed enclaves” of South Ossetia and Abkhazia all the while the the most “Aimiable AMERICANS” stick their Patriot missiles Poland–-all nice and cosy like!!!

    The French said the EU was determined to “act on the ground.” ( well the French are good on their backs), while David Miliband, said four key principles were at the heart of a statement released by the EU

    Miliband, said and get this:

    …first of all that force is not the basis for deciding on international relations in the modern world. (Not half Mate this is the first step into the open)
    Secondly, that the territorial integrity of countries needs to be respected. ( mmhh arrr yes like we did in Iraq)
    Thirdly, that democratically elected governments can not be undermined. ( Tough one that…but wait what about EIRE?)
    And fourthly, that international law must be respected.( OMG. PUKE, PUKE, PUKE, since when did Britian respect international law, lets see now–ahhh yes mmmhhhh–-SUEZ! Or do you want more examples).

    Georgia appealed to the European Union on Monday to freeze its “strategic partnership” talks with Russia unless Moscow halts its military campaign. But when Poland appalled to Britain in 1939 to honour its Treaty with them Britain gave half of Poland to Russia––well what so different now?

    I like Putin, at least you know where you stand with the man…fine chap that he is, and being able to see right through the EU as well!

  47. david_grothier says:

    Tell you what guys, this has to be one of the best informed web sites around.

    I mean the whole idea of the Public being Defended is great I for one am all for it especially knowing as I do just how the uneducated subservient British public flock have been skilfully and totally herded up and penned like sheep for the butcher’s hook.

    If ever there was a nation’s citizens that needed Defending it has to be Britain’s––SADLY I DON’T THINK, UNLESS OF COURSE WE BRING ABOUT A DRASTIC CHANGE, THAT WE WILL EVER SEE THE BULLDOG SPIRIT THAT BROUGHT US THROUGH THE LAST WAR AGAIN.–-you cant put John Bull in a sheep!

    In fact when I heard that daisy Brown thinks that he can win another election, then I believe we could well be at the point of packing it all in. However since starting this note there has been a recent conspiracy to assassinate him and Tony Blair as reported by the Beeb. So we have come down to this. Britain has long been a third world nation, now have tin pot banana republic politics where unpopular leaders become targets to go with it! But to me its just a logical progression as we drift further into an inevitable state of open revolt. However when the crunch comes no politician can say they were never warned to get their houses in order, do the jobs they were elected to do and serve the people with intelligence dedication and dignity , instead of the shabby performance they lick down to us.

    One of the biggest insults to the people of this nation must be the blatant audacity of MPs in not declaring their expenses!!´´´JUST WHO DO THESE PEOPLE THINK THEY ARE!.

    I will regret if in fact we do see those rivers of blood, it would be a disaster for this nation as all that is needed to stop the obviously impending flow, IS AN HONEST COMMITMENT TO OPENNESS AND HONESTY AND A DEDICATION TO SERVE TO NATION PROPERLY, FOR THIS AND SUCCESSIVE GOVERNMENTS..

    I am strong and honest enough to put my hand upon heart, and with full knowledge of just how deeply corrupt Britain has become, openly state that should there be an all out opposition to the prevailing evil control that we are now forced to endure. We should all enter a phase of passive civil disobedience, trust that government will wake up to their follies and potential disaster thereof.

    The power has always rested with the people and I further believe that we now all have a GOD given duty to awaken the people of Britain to the perils we all face, if we as a nation carry on following this path we are forced to tread,

    However this web site does offer a glimmer of hope, but I mean a just a glimmer and without care and nurturing it a glimmer that could be blown out ever so easily.

    Correct me if I am wrong, but John Harris, Brian Garrish, Albert Burgess, fine fellows that they are have all been expounded their essential massages for some time, and sadly we don’t seem to be seeing the kind of overwhelming response that we would definitely need to see –-that is if they and we all are to make a significance progress in getting the all essential public support that we need to move forward and end the looney madness that is now controlling our Britain

    This lack of overwhelming support means one of serval things ie, that either the message right and is not getting across, or the message is wrong and we may as well all go home, or it’s the totally disinterested public, who as usual don’t give a toss for their fate.

    However, I believe the message is right, the right one for the benefit of all, expect the political abusers. Therefore I think we all need to concentrate on the best way of getting it to the general public–-and fast before the Treaty of Lisbon catches us with our pants down.

    Without a the support of the public neither John, Albert nor Brian, or any of us will get anywhere.. The public holds the key, they always do, and after all Defending the Public IS ALL ABOUT THE PUBLIC!

    So where then are we going wrong–-simple really!–––– Should we not, under the banner of Defending the Pubic start addressing the numerous pressing issues that affect their daily lives and make simply live–a living hell!.

    Most people I have spoken to think that the Magna Cart is a new brand of ice cream–-that’s should give you all an idea of the task we all face. Of people don’t know what cradles the very existence of their basic Human Rights–HOW WILL THEY UNDERSTAND THE STEPS NEEDED TO PRESERVE SUCH RIGHTS?

    Most people don’t even care about Common Purpose simply as they are not aware of it. And Brian’s video as good as it is, is preaching to the converted as they know Common Purpose and its evil. The rank and file whom I speak to where the message needs to got to–-do not! As said they have in general–NOT HEARD OF COMMON PURPOSE.

    Therefore if this government, and the people in the shadows of the halls of power in Whitehall, and other obscure places are able to keep the public in the dark–they remain safe to continue doing what they do best–-oppressing the people by slowly eroding their rights and the ability to protest. (note the increasing so called anti terror laws?).

    There are so many people aware of the cause we fight, look at the number of dissenting web sites, check out the videos and contributions on the PUBLIC DEFENDER SITE.

    The skill now has to be pulling all these dedicated people together under one umbrella,

    IF THERE IS NO RANK AND FILE OPPOSITION TO THESE LUDICROUS GOVERNMENT POLICES–– THERE NO OPPOSITION–NONE AND THEY CONTINUE TO WALK ALL OVER US.

    This winter id going to be tough for many, most of all out pensioners, who will be forced to chose between heating and eating and other essentials.

    They key. I believe is now to form our own BRAND NEW Political Party and take to the road, the village halls and community centres and all other available venues and appeal to the nation’s hard pressed citizens–tell them in no uncertain that they are hard pressed because of the utter incompetence and stupidity of this government who are abusing each and every one of the people through wasting millions in any event, but squandering BILLIONS fighting the USA’s wars.

    If this happens please at all costs keep the message as simple but as honest as you can. I sense the people of Britain are up to their eyeballs with idiotic gobbledygook who ever spouts it.

    Look at these basic issues that are hitting people hard and will do more so this winter.

    Scottish and Southern Energy (SSE), which has 8.8m UK customers, is raising gas prices by 29.2% and average electricity costs by 19.2% from Monday. E.On earlier unveiled rises of 26% and 16% in gas and electricity prices respectively!
    These outrageous price hikes follow similar moves from British Gas and EDF last month.
    This means that the average dual fuel customer would see annual bills rise by £253 a year to £1259.
    E.On’s hikes will see customers who take both gas and electricity pay £1226 – an extra £227

    The excuse government is using to allow these scandalous, over the official rate of inflation, price hikes is that the world is experiencing an energy shock of a kind not seen since the early 1970s.

    THIS IS RUBBISH AS A PRUDENT GOVERNMENT COULD BALANCE TO BOOKS TO ENSURE THAT THE LONG SUFFERING PUBLIC DOES NOT PAY!
    I could do this efficiently and effectively and I am a nobody, yet I can produce economic models that would not only bring prices, down but taxes as well.

    Please all of you please take a look at this movie clips it has a very poignant message if you hear the word–-as once we have paid our taxes, fought in wars–that’s us all–Forgotten men!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37-ocetYDdU

  48. Adi says:

    Many of the people are still sleepwalking into the Abyss of what the EU is…..And our Political Establishment , with the three main Party’s it has control of…is very reticent about telling the people the true objective. But at last , the people are coming out of the trance or trasitory dream, realizing they have stepped into a crevice. The pit will undoubtedly be a nightmare if they believe escaping from freedom is not their problem.

  49. Tom Collins says:

    Adi has summed it all up very well.

    Apart from the BNP, the 4th. largest party – UKIP – are the only party demanding withdrawal from the EU

    Now, we are told by our government, that we cannot even put the Union Flag over the EU badge on our car number plates !! Where is our freedom of choice ? What about our Common Law rights ?

    Surely this is right up LIBERTY’S street ?

    When will the EU and the euro implode? Surely this cannot be far off ?

    Once TURKEY joins the EU and 70 million people are entitled to move here, then the s… will hit the fan – or will it ?

  50. Life says:

    Dear Editor.
    Did you recieve the letter as requested?